Who, in The Lord of the Rings, was the most effective liar?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Raynor

Well, as mentioned, the issue is not just about those included, but the extent of time that is acceptable..

Well, I made a referee call but you disagreed.

This thread has gone south as far as I'm concerned, in directions I never intended. But it's not mine, it belongs to everybody who posts.

The most effective rule, if anybody really wants one (which I doubt), is to leave your discussions strictly to the contents of the 6 "books", not including the appendices. And not including clever stuff about the Redbook of Westmarch or Tolkien as one of the characters up for grabs.

But it seems like people are having just as much fun questioning or flouting the parameters, so if that's what you really want to do with this thread, have at it. There. My sour grapes have been squeezed out, and I'm done complaining. Have at it.