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Old 01-15-2008, 07:34 AM   #18
Thinlómien
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A little summary/analysis

Nogrod
#2 Is the first one to post. Says that everybody should vote, calls for discussion.
#5 Replies to Valier, and states, rather ironically, that if she has a better suggestion than voting, he's willing to listen. Complains about people being away.
#7 Replies to Groin, says that we need to have ideas of one other before we enter the trial days. Also warns about innocents not making the first move on the trial days and says they should try to corner the wolf. says that people should talk.
#11 Criticises Ka's decision to remain in the shadows and observe. Says that in the current situation, anything is worth saying. Says discussion-discourages can be suspected. Encourages others to follow Legate's example and throw some opinions around.
#17 Agrees with Legate that toDay will be great material in the Days to come. Says: "Some innocent kills in the trials may turn out victories for the enemies of Melkor in the end if people stay alert."
#21 Responses to Menel, says one should try to take contact with those s/he's going to play with in the trials.
#24 Realises he doesn't know who will he be fighting against.

Valier
#3 Urges people to talk "like there is no tomorrow", is not sure if she agrees with Nogrod about voting.
#8 Says she's no leader but rather a solitary soul. (Sorry for phrasing it that way, couldn't resist...) Says Nogrod's way of playing (?) creates plenty to talk and speculate about. Warns against the danger of evildoers manipulating the "ghost vote". Says that "most things today can be argued later as being first day not knowinness."

Groin Redbeard
#4 A few insignificant lines & "Are you saying, Nogrod, that we should now choose whom we wish to do battle against?"
#14 Implies that Nogrod is leading the discussion. "I admire Nogrod's assertiveness in calling for action, but this dosen't mean that he is one of the few who are under Sauron's controll. Nogrod has done more to help us than any of us put together!" Points to Legate's quick accusations and asks what others think of it.

THE Ka
#9 in-character, "Anyways, putting pressure on everyone's words only aids those conditioned to lie, and gives suspicion to those who otherwise only mean to speak and reason simply. Which, Nogrod, I do believe that your words call for reason, but to hold at knife point only makes the wolf sing sweeter as you gut the lamb." Says she will take an observing stance.
#18 in-character
#22 Apologises and explains in-character posts. Says that she would hate to have the trial with someone she has no opinion on or to vote randomly and have bad guilty conscience in the trials.
#30 Says she's present but has nothing special to say. wonders if everybody is aware of the pre-day. Says posting and reading toDay is important.
#41 Hopes that the rest of the players will come. "Since even the wolves don't know other wolves, the pre-game day is anyone's gambit and everyone's reference book. Same is true with specials and innocents, etc. So, I guess in a way there is some relief having the ambiguity so that individual styles and plays come forth when players post. Usually these things get lost when the wolves and specials know each other in their roles."

Legate of Amon Lanc
#10 Supports voting. Has a bad feeling about Nogrod. Says Valier is strange while Groin and Lommy are ok. Finds it funny that he is taking conclusions so quickly.
#13 Responses to Nogrod about the trials. Says he would like to see The Might around as he assumes they will be in the same trio. Has vague (and unserious?) suspicious of Ka. Suggests people to change into the invisible mode.
#46 "I don't like the "loud players may manipulate the village" and all the other cliché "loud-quiet" debates -- Now I could say that all who try to make fruitless debate like this are wolves." Doesn't like Menel's pessimism. EMPHASISES the fact that WE DON'T KNOW who are we going to be against!!!! ( ) "And P.S. Roa, but lots of these are Ranger skills as well!"
#47 Clarifies: "What I meant by the first sentence was that Brinn and Menel, or whoever it was, said it makes no sense to vote. My reaction is that only for the wolves it's tactically better not to vote today." Says we should vote.

McCaber
#12 Says it's too early to throw suspicion around, but if he's supposed to do so, he would name Ka and Legate, as he doesn't "believe in long monologues or dice". Says it will be easy to trap Nogrod if he lies, says that Valier and Groin haven't said much one way or another and it could work against them in future.
#38 Thanks Menel and says: "Just because I don't feel a need to say everything that crosses my mind doesn't mean I'm a wolf."

Roa_Aoife
#15 Agrees we should vote. Suspects Lommy for agreeing with Nogrod in words but not in action. Says she'll be wary of people who only post in-character.
#16 (Double posts, ie starts characteristic flood-posting. ) Says that it's good that Legate is stirring discussion with his comments and that it's better to suspect many than to suspect none.
#23 Notes about invisibility. Points out that the wolves don't have a relevant mutual strategy as they don't know each other and will work as individuals. "Thin, who has not returned, still has my interest, as do Ka (for lack of substance- you're a wonderful writer but that's not helping) and Menel (for trying to dampen discussion.)"
#25 Agrees with Lommy that quiet people are dangerous, but wonders says her statment on manipulative wolves rings false. Clarifies to Ka that there's nothing wrong with ic in general, but if one posts only in character, it is a problem.
#27 Thanks Lommy for clarifying her statement.
#28 Asks where's everybody, jokingly calls for the lynching of Nogrod.
#31 Wonders if people know they should be around. "Still, when my day in the arena comes, should niether of my opponents seem particularly suspicious I'll probably (probably, mind you, not definitely) vote the one who posted the least on this day." Corrects Lommy's maths and claims we stand a good chance of winning this game.
#35 "The unfortunate thing, Azaelia, is that this is our only opportunity to help each other out. When the trial day comes, this is the only context each of will have to work with." Corrects Azaelia about what she (Roa) and Lommy were actually saying. does not look forward to trialing with those who are silent toDay.
#36 Goes and hopes to be back.

Meneltarmacil
#19 Thinks there's nothing to do toDay.
#37 Observes that the loud vs quiet debate is going on and critcises it. Joins the debate by saying that loud ones are slightly more dangerous, because they affect the votes.

Shastanis Althereduin

#32 pops up

Azaelia of Willowbottom

#33 pops up
#34 Agrees with Roa about the effectiveness of loud wolves. States the obvious by saying loudness and quietness point more to the person's playing style than his/her role. "It is very important not to throw today away completely, and also that it is probably worth a bit more than it normally might be, but I also don't think I will be basing my decisions about the innocence of the other two people on my trial day on today alone."
#39 Thanks Roa for clarifying. Agrees that blank trial days are a no-no. "For the record, I think the loud wolves are just as dangerous as the quiet ones."
#40 Comments McCaber's post by saying "I think it's not a good thing to be too silent, keeping every thought to oneself, but too much talking from one person just serves to muddy the waters and can attract the wrong kind of attention from the direction of the wolves or from that of innocents."

Brinniel
#42 While she sees why Nogrod and Lommy want everyone to vote, she disagrees with them. Concludes that we can do nothing toDay, since the wolves are in the same situation with the ordinaries and there will be no lynch.
#44 Says she does usually find Day1s useless, but this one is an exception. says there is no way of concluding what kind of behaviour is wolvish. "Anyways in all technicalities, this isn't Day 1 at all. So in all arguments, Day 1 could still very well remain a critical Day when it does come around.."

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So... based on this, I'd say that Roa looks slightly suspicious with her friendliness and constant agreeing, it's something I find uncharacteristic for her and wolvish. Brinniel gives wolvish vibes with her general attitude and way of saying things and her pessimism. I have already stated my opinion on Zali and Valier and I'd like to add Menel to that list for his contradictory stance on the infamous loud vs quiet debate. Thanks to his two latest somewhat odd posts, I'm slightly wary of Legate as well. Groin's suspiciousness is most probably just newbieishness in disguise. Shasta could be nominated for the least constructive presence, but that - I'm afraid - does not make him a wolf.

I might vote one of those persons and watch them all very closely toDay, but if I'm still alive when the "finals" begin, I will be paying a lot more attention to the ones that have not caught my attention in any way toDay, mostly the non-posters, that is. I will leave soon-ish, but be back a few hours before the deadline.

EDIT: xed with Volo
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