Werewolf XLII: The meaning of life forever

[Nogrod]

I'm getting a feeling that our arguments are becoming more and more mirror-images of each other...

I say I suspect Lommy for jumping on my points and turning them to points against me - and she does likewise.

I say Lommy is jumpy & retaliatory, she says I'm jumpy and retaliatory.

Lommy says she's been accused with feeble reasons, I feel the same.

Lommy accuses me of an apologetic ending in my last post and then makes a rather consiliatory ending herself...



Okay the Might, the mighty warrior you boast you are. Come to the rink and don't shy in the shadows. It seems we're in a dire need of discussing something else for a change.

(OOC: I'm going to prepare a dinner for myself and Lommy but will return after an hour or two to try and make some substantial posting - hopefully concerning the Might's new posts as well)

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Lommy accuses me of an apologetic ending in my last post and then makes a rather consiliatory ending herself...

I was about to shout that that's a feeble and false accusation, but then I reconsidered what I had written and found out it's actually true... This situation is quite comical, indeed.

And I agree with you. We can't really do anything more - or at last I can't - before TM arrives.

*waits*

[The Might]

Well I'm here.
Did it maybe occur to you that I was not able to go online cause we have a weekend at the moment?
I mean, yes, I play WW with pleasure, but due to a rather unexpected RL event I was unable to post. So please excuse me for going out with friends instead of sitting home and posing on the thread.
Seems quite an easy strategy there Nogrod to simply say that if I don't post I should be voted. I find it quite unfair of you to do that as long as you did not have a clue. As I didn't post on any other thread here you could have thought that I might not be there.

Anyway, leaving that aside the then/than part was a typo, I've always had a problem with those two.

And I also don't understand why you are so suspicious of this theory.
I mean after all, don't you think it is possible? And what is the problem really, it is just an idea, might be a bad one, but still it was an idea.
Yes, I did indeed say "we" because, as you might have noticed" the theory was the all are innocents. Especially since the roles are not revealed upon death I have even more reasons to believe this.

Now, if you wish to believe that this idea was in some way planned so that I can at the end use "we" and imply that I am an innocent, then go ahead.

I find it good that you also took a look at Lommy, that makes me feel better about you.
I'm not sure who I will vote, somehow both of you don't really seems supicious now and if I had to choose I would probably say Nog simply because there isn't much I see bad in Lommy.

[Thinlómien]

First off, I'm glad to see you around, Might. I do know it's weekend so I thought you might have something to do Friday night and would be sleeping late. But you absence today afternoon has troubled me. I assumed you'd give ww more time but evidently I was wrong.

But the fact that you had RL things doesn't change the fact that you have this far given very little to go on.

Originally Posted by Might

Seems quite an easy strategy there Nogrod to simply say that if I don't post I should be voted.

Surely that's not a very fair accusation since I, too, said that I'll vote you if you don't appear. I just said it later and probably in a less aggressive manner.

Originally Posted by Might

I find it good that you also took a look at Lommy, that makes me feel better about you.

He would have been extremely silly not to look at my posts as well as that would have been immediately viewed as suspicious.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by The Might

Did it maybe occur to you that I was not able to go online cause we have a weekend at the moment?
I mean, yes, I play WW with pleasure, but due to a rather unexpected RL event I was unable to post. So please excuse me for going out with friends instead of sitting home and posing on the thread.

It did. Lommy already told what we thought, Friday night and having fun with friends etc. No problem. People have lives - even we do.

But then again if one wants to play a game with others here the others expect the person to play with them then. I think it is a cheap rhetoric to put this game against RL. You have yourself promised to play a game so using that kind of arguments to cover you in a game don't actually convince me.

Anyway, leaving that aside the then/than part was a typo, I've always had a problem with those two.

I thought so. Thanks for clearing that.

I'm not sure who I will vote, somehow both of you don't really seems supicious now and if I had to choose I would probably say Nog simply because there isn't much I see bad in Lommy.

Remember what I said: the wolves need to be agreeable as not to get lynched. These trials highlight that fact as they have to survive in this threesome. The innocents need to find out things, they need to get everyone talking. The wolves will be happy with silence and comformism. The innocents need to tear things apart and to accuse to see how people react.

Btw. my concerns with Lommy just hit the roof seeing her latest post where she looked really amicable indeed, even underlining that she had voiced the same concerns I did but more pleasantly.

So do consider and reconsider.

And where are you anyway Might? Lurking in the corners still? I thought you would have started to take part in this but it's 1½ hours since your only post toDay?

Either you don't want to play or then you intentionally avoid playing. Both of these reasons might make me consider voting you notwithstanding my worries on Lommy. I mean with Lommy one can play and there's something to read from her. I mean you can't honestly claim you have played this far...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Btw. my concerns with Lommy just hit the roof seeing her latest post where she looked really amicable indeed . . .

Eh. First I'm a wolf because I'm so "aggressive" and then because I'm so "amicable". I smell a contradiction here.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

. . . even underlining that she had voiced the same concerns I did but more pleasantly.

So what is the probelm?
a) The fact that I pointed out that you were not the only one here to say that you'd vote Miggy if he doesn't appear?
b) Or that I said so in the first place?
c) Or the fact that I did it in a less aggressive way than you did?
d) Or that I said that I did it less aggressively than you did?

Well, obviously
a) Why wouldn't I point that out? Miggy might be a wolf trying to justify his planned vote against you on rather feeble grounds. And even if you are the wolf out of the two, well, even wolves don't deserve to be suspected/voted on false grounds.
b) I think I've said it already why I'd rather vote TM than you if I have no clear opinion about either of you.
c) I think my way of saying things, in ww at least, is generally less aggressive and more friendly than yours. Besides, I must say that while you threatened to vote TM to get him talking, I never did. That itself should be areason to call my approach less aggressive.
d) Well, I was just trying to joke a little bit like the smilie tells and I also saw my being more friendly and the fact that I stated the will-vote-Might -thing later than yours as reasons that TM might have had for picking on your comment but saying nothing about mine. (So, if you will, you can ever read it the way that I'm making up bad excuses for TM to behave how he did. )

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

First I'm a wolf because I'm so "aggressive" and then because I'm so "amicable". I smell a contradiction here.

I smell a continuation of our discussions toDay overall... And anyway you can't actually claim that it's the same thing what you say to one person or another now can you? As a wolf one might reasonably be aggressive towards some people and smooth with dealing some others. You know that well. And in a threesome game those aspects just get highlighted.

So what is the probelm?
d) Or that I said that I did it less aggressively than you did?

Exactly. That is the problem. You hurry to underline that you were nicer to bring forwards the feel-good factor of the Might. That's wolfy I'd say.

You see the general issue? The innocents want to get out whatever they can from the discussion as it's their job to find the wolves and to lynch them so they can risk themselves with openly going forwards. The wolves need to survive and thence avoid controversy - at least in a threesome.

Now the Might where are you! I'd say you're a coward for a hero!

[Thinlómien]

More than 2h since Miggy's latest post? Eeksies...

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And anyway you can't actually claim that it's the same thing what you say to one person or another now can you? As a wolf one might reasonably be aggressive towards some people and smooth with dealing some others. You know that well. And in a threesome game those aspects just get highlighted.

Ok, fair point. Even though I can't see mewolf being as trasparent as being aggressive against you and being nice to Miggy in order to get him to my side and you lynched, if that's what you're trying to say I'm doing...

Originally Posted by Nogrod

You see the general issue? The innocents want to get out whatever they can from the discussion as it's their job to find the wolves and to lynch them so they can risk themselves with openly going forwards. The wolves need to survive and thence avoid controversy - at least in a threesome.

Yes, but challenging others and not playing it safe is different than being deliberatedly aggressive and unfriendly.

edit: xed with The Might - now what's this?

[The Might]

Well, Nogrod, I must admit that you are right.
At first I didn't really like what you just wrote, probably because I was not willing to admit it is true. But, I must say, you are truly correct.
I have been giving WW too little attention and I admit it.
The problem is I would like to say that I'll try harder from now on, but after a few games I'm starting to realise I like the game but not so much playing it.
Not really the conclusion I wanted to eventually come to, but still, the conclusion.
So thanks, Nogrod, for giving me that poke and making me realise that.
And please do not think that I mean this as an offense or irony, this is really the way I feel about this.

I guess that I am somehow too lazy to analyse all people or maybe I'm not really good at it or maybe I don't really enjoy it.
Not sure what it is, but really I don't see myself becoming a good WW player like some of the older members.

As such, I feel the need to make a decision and even though it is not quite nice I think it is the right thing to do.
I'm going to take a break from WW, possibly permanently and maybe retry sometime in the future when I feel that I have more time on my hands and more importantly more will to participate.
I wish all other players good luck in this game and in the following ones be they innocents, gifteds or wolves!

So, I'll be taking my leave now and you can always find me in Mirth or the lore stuff.

I do not think I have seen a rule about suicide votes, so here goes:
++ The Might (for not having what it takes)