Werewolf XLIV: In the House of Tom Bombadil

[Rikae]

Mith looks a little better to me now. It would, at least, be very unsporting for her to make the statements she did if she were a wolf -- not that I'm certain she isn't, but I suppose I'll leave her alone for toDay anyway.

Both Boro and Nogrod suddenly find me suspicious after I suspect them... Boro, especially, seems odd with his statement there is a wolf or two among each of two groups of two people, followed by a vote for someone in neither group! Like yesterday, I'm getting the impression that he doesn't particularly care who gets lynched.
Nogrod, plain and simple and like I said, I didn't suspect anyone else as much and there was no support for lynching my other suspects anyway. I don't see the point in making a big show of reluctance (actually, I tend to distrust such shows.)
Speaking of shows of reluctance, though, I don't think Volo's was actually wolfish. I think it's actually the sort of wackiness that wolves are more likely to seize upon, trying to make an ordo into a lynch victim, than to actually engage in themselves. The fact that he admits it was a show of reluctance, plus the general relaxed feel he has, make him look more innocent.

At this point, my top suspects (in order of wolfyness) are:
Boro
Greenie
Nogrod
Durelin

EDIT: X'd with Durydurykanoggielommy

[Durelin]

Actually it was a question, Lommy. I'm not keen on attacking flip-flopping too much, because I'm just as confused. I just really wonder what you meant by that - how she's acting so blatantly wolfish she can't be a wolf, if that's what you meant?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Actually it was a question, Lommy. I'm not keen on attacking flip-flopping too much, because I'm just as confused. I just really wonder what you meant by that - how she's acting so blatantly wolfish she can't be a wolf, if that's what you meant?

I actually took it as a serious question but when Greenie appeared behind my shoulder, saw your post and said "quite evil" of that, it occured to me it might be a sarcastic joke as well. But no, I didn't mean that. I simply meant all her innocent-looking reasonableness and helpfulness (mainly the floods of analysis). When I'm a wolf, I'm reluctant to write long analyses because it feels pointless and it always takes a lot of time and effort. It is probably a very stupid tactic and I don't claim Rikae would play similarily, but there is still something very unwolfy in her helpfulness.

Currently I feel like my head could explode. I'm quite sure there is at least one wolf among the experienced village loudmouths - Nogrod, Boro, Mac and Rikae - and they all keep bringing up good points that contradict each other and seeming innocent at one moment and suspicious at the next. Truth be told it's quite frustrating. I think I need to have a pause and think about things wthout taking anything they say into account, but it's quite difficult as one of the things I want to think about is what they're actually saying. I don't know, I just have a bad feeling that four gifted rehtorics (rhetoriciens? what?) are trying to talk me over to their side and not all of them are innocent. Argh.

edit: xed with Nogrod and just realised my word formation looks suspiciously French... that's what you get from French-lessons, I guess...

[Nogrod]

The tally:

Menel -> McCaber
Nerwen -> Volo
Boro -> Mac

And 45 minutes to go.

I'll come forwards with what I think after I've had a cigarette and hopefully collected my thoughts.

[Durelin]

Thanks, Lommy...I understand now and am glad I asked because obviously I wasn't reading it that way. And I'm sorry A Little Green already thinks I'm so nasty.

Blarghity...I need to get working on homework...

++Macalaure

Of the random voters for Gwathagor he worries me the most. Of course I don't feel good voting for the same person as Boro, but I can't say I trust any of you sneaky lot, so what's the use spending another 40ish minutes on this...

Edit: Crossed with Volo

[Nogrod]

Here's the list of characters...

Nogrod the Agreeable, the leader of the beggars

his wife, Nerwen - I never seem to be able to suspect her but after Volo's point about her over-carefulness I'd say she needs to be looked at.

Gwathagor, their child - R.I.P. dear son.

elderly couple; Rikae the Kind - a bit touchy when suspected even a little but otherwise looks good and sensible.

and Durelin - no idea.

Boromir88 the Silent One, an ex-pickpocket - looks more like an innocent.

his wife, Mithalwen the Perpetually Sane and Serene - I'm really torn between her guilt and innocence, sometimes more the first, sometimes more the latter. Lommy said a wolf wouldn't go to such extremes defending her innocence - but remember Rikae last time...

their children Macalaure the Guileless - feels better all the time but I must say I'm a bit uneasy with him as I know what he's capable of.

and Meneltarmacil - screams wolf but then it's Menel who more often than not ends up lynched as an innocent. That said one of my candidates still.

satansaloser2005, a slightly mad crippled woman - dead duckmaster...

Volo, a young widowed man - I'm not too easy with him as I've pointed out already but doesn't top my list either.

his child, the Right Honourable McCaber - if he doesn't show up I'm quite ready to lynch a timebomb that doesn't look too innocent.

THE Ka, a blind old woman - no idea.

orphaned little Thinlómien - felt very innocent yersterDay and mainly toDay as well.

and her little sister A Little Green - I'm a bit worried about with her conscise low-flying and if I can borrow the hip-phrase around here toDay: there's something that bothers me with her even if I can't quite say what.

EDIT: X'd after Lommy onwards

[Nogrod]

Menel -> McCaber
Nerwen -> Volo
Boro -> Mac
Dury -> Mac 2
Rikae -> Boro
Mith -> Rikae
McCaber -> Volo 2
Greenie -> Mac 3

Sorry aboput the shorthand tally...

This is getting crazy with all the candidates!

EDIT: update

[Volo]

I really don't know what to, which means that I'm waiting.

I don't want to get lynched, but neither do I want to vote Mac.
Voting Boro might be too dangerous at this point, because he's quite clearly not going to be lynched.
McCaber? That's one alternative...

[Nogrod]

I could go for McCaber as he hasn't come back to his words another Day in a row and has just stood back and watched.

Greenie's vote doesn't look too good to me either.

I could see Menel but I'm afraid it would go wrong in the end.

Volo I'm a bit baffled about...

EDIT: X'd from Mac...

[Nogrod]

Let's not lynch Mac.

He can be very helpful indeed and if he's a wolf the Day will come when he is caught acting contradictory or talking himself into a corner...

EDIT: X'd with Mac & Rikae & kind of agree with Rikae... though my point stands... even heightened...

[Volo]

I'll add Lily to the Innocent-list, for now. Either she has greatly improved as a Wolf, or she really is Innocent. Her cases look honest.
Ok, not all things make sense to me, but she reacts in a genuine way.

I'd like Lommy to make way for her sister to update her Mac-case.


I'm quite inclined to vote for Nerwen, but I'll do such a nasty deed as to see if there's any sense to vote for her. Otherwise, my targets are Boro and Ka - Ka slightly more. I'm falling for Boro's frustration, it looks a bit like SPM's in the first game I modded. But I won't vote in a such way that Boro is left alive, in a case that neither [b]Ka[b] nor Nerwen is on the way to be lynched.


I'll check Nogrod next.

[Thinlómien]

What? Only 35 minutes to go?! And I thought we had ages and I have no clue who to vote... *faints*

edit: xed with Durey

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Volo

I'd like Lommy to make way for her sister to update her Mac-case.

Now tsk tsk, it is her own choice that she has not been around for a while and she left to buy cookie ingredients a moment ago... I hope she realises how late it is...

[Rikae]

I think I'm decided enough at this point, so:

++Boro

Smooth on the surface, but the overall pattern of his behavior looks like there's a nasty undercurrent. Look over his posts, and think about the intention behind them.

[Thinlómien]

I feel like using a certain German swear word. Agh. This is just too confusing. Ok, of the loudmouths I complained about Nogrod and Mac seem more innocent, Rikae and Boro seem more guilty. I'm perfectly aware this is quite opposite to many things I've said before, but there is something overall innocently laid-back in Nogrod's manner and innocentish uncertainity in Mac's while Rikae and Boro look a tad too confident. Now I'm not actually suspecting them very much and I refuse to vote them before I've had a closer look at them - and I will do that toMorrow, if I'm still alive.

Who to vote then? I'd be inclined to go against Volo, Menel or McCaber... The latter two are quite suspicious and I confess I'd like to get rid of them so that I needn't to wonder about them any more. The totally baffling Volo is another case; he feels both far more guilty and a little more innocent than the two others. Ouch.

Now Greenie came home. She'll come to post now.

edit: xed with Rik and Cab

[A Little Green]

I'm back with my vote.

++ Mac

And if you start accusing me of joining a bandwaggon then I suggest you go and reread my posts from toDay. (Sorry - just had to say that.)

No further babblings then.


EDIT: x-ed with everyone since Lommie

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So please McCaber at last do what you have promised all the time and talk - or convince me that that's only your tactics to make boots of us at Nights with not talking your mouth.

Third that agreement. McCaber I don't suspect directly considering the events of yesterDay, but I do think it would clear his name if he gave more of an explanation and overall opinion on his views, or at least break himself away from Mac's suspicion that he was tied to yesterDay as well.

I suspect Mac far more than McCab, but I really wish he'd speak up so that we'd stop wringing his neck then patting him on the head in confusion.

++Macalaure

(Sorry if this is after deadline, if it is feel free not to count it, since it probably has no weight anyway...).

~ Ka

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Both Boro and Nogrod suddenly find me suspicious after I suspect them...

Nogrod, plain and simple and like I said, I didn't suspect anyone else as much and there was no support for lynching my other suspects anyway. I don't see the point in making a big show of reluctance (actually, I tend to distrust such shows.)

I didn't say I found you suspicious - or at least extremely suspicious...

What I did was going through that Gwathwagon to look for anything that could be seen as suspicious and you must agree yourself that when the lynch is going nicely the wolves can posture as principled standing behind their voiced suspicions but the innocents are always a bit nervous about their votes if there isn't a seer-revelation or something like that.

You were one of the many who acted in a way that could be seen also as wolvish and not all of you could be wolves.

What innocents need to do is to think, think and think - and to get food for that thought they need to suspect, suspect and suspect. The gifteds may need to stay a bit lower but now it should be clear that it's the duty of everyone of us to be vocal about anything we see that is even bordering suspicious - and to voice these things so that we can get reactions to them.