Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II

[the phantom]

The voting so far-

morm for Brin
Sally for tp
Gwath for Sally
Kit for morm
Nerwen for Cailin
Roa for tp
Cel for Izzy

tp- 2
Brin- 1
Sally- 1
morm- 1
Cailin- 1
Izzy- 1

I'm winning! I'm winning! I'm... oh... *frowns*

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

The voting so far-

morm for Brin
Sally for tp
Gwath for Sally
Kit for morm
Nerwen for Cailin
Roa for tp
Cel for Izzy

tp- 2
Brin- 1
Sally- 1
morm- 1
Cailin- 1
Izzy- 1

I'm winning! I'm winning! I'm... oh... *frowns*

You read my mind! I was just scrolling down and thinking "My, how nice it would be if there was a vote tally!" Thanks Phantom!


Okay, that's about all I've really got time for. I'm going to look at stuff real quick and see what I've got to add in the next....erm....like two minutes. *hates her lack of participation*

[Lalaith]

Gah. I'd just got my voting tally all ready to roll and phantom beat me to it.
Well, I read through everything and it seems to me like both Cailin and Brinniel are both being quite helpful and saying constructive things...not sure why people have highlighted them for suspicion. (As for Cailin's suspicions of me, clearly the EW does not share her high opinion of the black sheep )
Volo and Aganzir both seem quite contradictory in their points, but I haven't played with either of them before. Nerwen too is worrying me , and Roa. I've picked up a similar vibe from the all...Don't say who you trust! Don't say who you suspect! Don't say what your plans are for catching wolves! What exactly are we supposed to talk about then?

There seem to have been two ding-dongs in process, the early one between Roa and Phantom, and a later one between Mac and Legate. As for the first pair, its par for the course and they could be on opposing sides, same side, anything really. The Mac and Legate row seems somehow more manufactured.

[Lalaith]

And am I right in thinking that the only ones left to post are Di and Nilp?

[Rikae]

I am completely exhausted (something called "jet-lag", apparently, whatever a jet is) so I'm going to vote now and go to bed.
++morm
Of those I've seen acting suspicious, he's the most submarine-like.

[A Little Green]

Still not much ideas, I'm afraid. I'm bothered by the amount of random votes cast toDay. There's been, what, three somewhat random votes (and at least one with no explanation) in the current total of eight votes. I think it is too much and I don't like it. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about it.

I might vote Gwath toDay. Others that worry me are McCaber (under the radar and inactive), the phantom (I have honestly no idea of what he's aiming at, and it starts to irritate me) and possibly Agan (there is something in her overall manner that just doesn't sit right with me).

Other than that, I don't have much to say. I'll be back to vote if nothing else, probably well before the deadline considering my current rate of tiredness. (<- is that even a proper word?)


EDIT: x-ed since Rikae

[Isabellkya]

++ Roa

I need to vote, part random mixed with suspicion.


X'd with phantom and Volo.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++ Phantom

He bothers me the most, out of everyone I find not-quite-right.

[Volo]

Tp is being framed quite a lot - I'm quite confident about it. Even though he's all amazing and handsome and everything great, his situation looks exactly like so many Day1 lynches of preveous games. Somebody who's doing something crazy/unusual and is lynched because of that, and of course, is Innocent. An easy lynch, this one!
I'm aware that I contradict myself, because I have not the slightest idea about tp myself otherwise and am quite annoyed with such a style, remembering Fea, but the outcome looks grim.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Agan

Makes sense to me.

Glad to hear it. Really, the things I've been saying all along have a huge amount of truth in them. Perhaps it is uncomfortable to hear, but you cannot pretend that I am showing the situation for anything other than exactly what it is, even if I am doing it in a fatalistic manner. It ought to at least help everyone make sure their priorities are in order.

The voting-

morm for Brin
Sally for tp
Gwath for Sally
Kit for morm
Nerwen for Cailin
Roa for tp
Cel for Izzy
Rikae for morm
Izzy for Roa
Shasta for tp
Eonwe for tp

tp- 4
morm- 2
Brin- 1
Sally- 1
Cailin- 1
Izzy- 1
Roa- 1

Out of those that have votes thus far, I certainly do not wish to lynch myself.

morm.... nah. Not now.

Roa, Izzy, and Cailin- definitely not now.

So that leaves Sally and Brin.

Unfortunately I haven't played much with either one and I haven't had time to go back and reread this thread to look for things, so I really can't say if I suspect them or not. Certainly I'd prefer them to the others at this time.

What about Di and Nilp? If you've played with me before you know that it really bugs me when people don't post. Even though she hasn't said a word I'd rather vote for Di at this point than any of the others who already have votes.

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by tp

Ah, I see that Ka has me figured out.

Naturally.

Originally Posted by Durelin

Oh, and yeah, my the phantom wanting attention comment was supposed to mean he always wants attention, though it was worded strangely. I was in rant-mode, so I was just typing whatever came out of my head. Probably do that too much.

No worries, my brain is certainly off somewhere today as it seems my workload for classes has doubled today, belgh. Probably am going to be killed for it, but oh well, I tried to play.

Originally Posted by Durelin

*pats the Ka*

So, does this mean you'll take my finals for me?

Originally Posted by Cailin

Roa's mistake is a bit strange, but Ka's words about me over faulty evidence is more worrying. Based on events of Day 1 she's right at the top of my suspicion list.

That hit me in the face five minutes afterwards when I was starting my car up for work, I confused names. I actually started with Celuien, then was in a hurry and going over posts one one time and noticed that a few others put your name instead, then I thought I was wrong in my quote, etc. I'm terribly sorry if it offended you, I trust you it was a mistake.
Though, I understand your right to feel insulted completely and would take no hurt if you wished to vote. I'm actually a bit surprised at my sloppy confused self right now too.

Though tp's lists can be as suspicious as everyone else's, I will have to agree with him on this (even if he apparently started the EW or wolf debate, but I suspect this was just to get the rest of us to actually start talking...):

Originally Posted by tp

Oh, and as far as deciding who we should try and lynch, the EW or WWs, does it really matter much who we gun for?

No it doesn't at all, but that does leave us with relatively no plans later on. Though, toDay might as well be the fuel for that plan, whatever it becomes, later on.


Okay, so I'm quickly running out of time before the deadline hits, and I won't be here in the next few hours, so I am going to vote (yes random, I feel horrible about it), but after looking back on my posts I think I do have some actual suspicions to it. Not because of any reasons for being 'unorganized' or having little in posts (okay, who truly is 'organized' with their reasoning on day one? if that were the only reason I could vote myself out as well), just past actions of acting strongly for contradictory arguments.

++Celuien

[Brinniel]

Hello, I'm back...a little later than planned, I must admit. But goodness, a vote for me already...and didn't I only make two posts?

Well, it took me about an hour to catch up on all the posts. It's nice to see so much discussion, but at the same time it can make it so much more difficult to get a detailed analysis of everyone. While I do like to be thorough, being the slow poster I am, it'd probably be deadline before I finished doing all the analysing I'd like to. And with so much reading in one sitting, I admit sometimes halfway through one post I'd forget who was doing the posting...then of course I half to scroll up and check, then re-read.

First off:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

So, the plan's lynch people at random in the hope that some of them will turn out to be wolves, who will in turn give a clue to the EW?

No, that's not what I said. All I meant by it was that's it's more important to find the wolves right now. If we happen to catch the EW, that's great, but we have better odds in finding the wolves and by catching one we'll get a better idea who's the EW. That doesn't mean we have to lynch people by random. Just because there aren't connections between the wolves doesn't mean there aren't ways to find them suspicious; there are ways...as you mentioned in your first post. Besides, in a typical WW game while there may be connections between wolves from the start, we can never see those connections at Day 1...not until after there's been a lynch. So really, I see this Day 1 as any other. We should lynch whoever we think is acting most suspicious...I don't see how else to do it.

Some people who have caught my eye:

morm: Well, honestly I don't see what he finds so suspicious about me...but I don't find his accusations suspicious itself. He says it's partly gut feeling and since he had to vote early I can kind of understand...I tend to follow my gut as well, especially if I have to vote early on.

Lommy: I agree with a lot that she has to say and she seems to be making sense. She looks more innocentish for now..

phantom: Very attention seeking, but I don't think that's suspicious behaviour. Someone previously mentioned that they really do think he just wants to capture attention from the wizards...and I think that's true.

Volo: Did make a slip, but that's certainly not reason alone to suspect him.

Kitanna: Is very sisterly in defending me. I don't exactly agree in her suspecting morm, but I can understand her reasoning. Innocentish.

Aganzir: Currently the best lynching candidate I have. It's something about her tone...and her two line responses to many quotes that sets me off. Plus, her reasons for suspecting me seem flawed. I almost feel like she's feebly trying to bandwagon with morm. Err...well I don't think those are strong enough reasons for a vote, but I'm definitely going to go back and have a better look at her...

We still haven't heard from Di or Nilp. Where are they?

Anyways, I'm sure I'll be x-posting with many....

EDIT: Sure enough, I x-ed with five others...and that's not including what I read in the preview page!

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Volo

Tp is being framed quite a lot - I'm quite confident about it.

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised if in the end, all who voted him to his death were confused ordos, while the wolves stayed away from him so they won't look bad (which is very easy given the way the votes are spread).

Originally Posted by Volo

he's all amazing and handsome and everything great

It's the genes.


It's getting late here. Let's add another name to the pool. It's size is already hopeless anyway . I'm going to vote for my top suspect...

++Legate of Amon Lanc

[the phantom]

Phantom amuses me so I'd rather keep him alive.

Aw, thanks Agan.

Originally Posted by Izzy

Rather than focusing on such such things, maybe it would be a good idea to actively hunt for the wolves. hmm?

That's what I'm doing. Or rather, I'm trying to encourage lots of reactions/talking/etc that I can look at and digest after the day is over and then start hunting Wolves.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to catch one today. Today is one of the only chances we have of actually keeping the WWs from making an extra kill. Once they have four it will be extremely difficult to get them back down to three, so if we can keep them from getting to four tonight that would really help.

But as I pointed out before, our chances of hitting a WW while looking for the EW are probably just as good as hitting a WW while looking for a WW (at least on Day 1), and thus I do not want to lynch anyone today that people agree is not likely to have applied to be the EW.

Does everyone understand that point and agree with it?

[Eönwë]

Look at what tp wrote (boldening and underlining is mine):

Originally Posted by the phantom

That's what I'm doing. Or rather, I'm trying to encourage lots of reactions/talking/etc that I can look at and digest after the day is over and then start hunting Wolves.

Is that before or after you've killed them?

Anyway, I've been quite suspicious of his motives the whole time, so:

++the phantom

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Is that before or after you've killed them?

What do you mean by this?

(It's not allowed to edit posts in WW, except for marking cross-posting, even though it's enjoyable - I know from experience.)

edit: Xd with tp