Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

But why would a wolf-sally want to get rid of Gil in particular? Wouldn't she be more likely to try to get rid of somebody more involved? Gil isn't a threat to anybody at this point.

He's a threat in numbers, one more innocent to get out of her way. Also, suggesting triple lynch with anybody else but Gil as the third lynchee would have been a so-called political suicide...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

He's a threat in numbers, one more innocent to get out of her way. Also, suggesting triple lynch with anybody else but Gil as the third lynchee would have been a so-called political suicide...

So you think that she was possibly taking advantage of the situation to try to get rid of an innocent who is otherwise unlikely to be lynched? I guess that makes sense.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

So you think that she was possibly taking advantage of the situation to try to get rid of an innocent who is otherwise unlikely to be lynched? I guess that makes sense.

Yes. Or, getting rid of one innocent, and Gil was the only candidate whose lynch she could advocate without looking very suspicious herself.

[the phantom]

Real quickly- I wouldn't be too concerned about Sally voicing a desire to lynch a likely innocent Gil. I've been tempted too. Think of this- what if we just leave him around and then we get down to the final day, when there are a total of three villagers left. In a normal game two Ordos can lynch one WW. But in this game, only Reps can lynch. Which means when there are only two Ordos the WW can just sit on his Rep vote and the game is over. So, Gil or not, our last chance will be the day before.

So if we subtract an innocent Gil, that would put the day before at one WW and three Ordos, which is just fine. So Gil doesn't help the tally at all. Keeping him around does not add an extra day of life to the village.

[Gwathagor]

Maybe the wolf has thought that through already, and maybe not.

[Gwathagor]

It doesn't make a lot of difference since I'm not a rep, but I'm most suspicious of Green, sally, and, to a lesser extent, Ilya.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Real quickly- I wouldn't be too concerned about Sally voicing a desire to lynch a likely innocent Gil. I've been tempted too. Think of this- what if we just leave him around and then we get down to the final day, when there are a total of three villagers left. In a normal game two Ordos can lynch one WW. But in this game, only Reps can lynch. Which means when there are only two Ordos the WW can just sit on his Rep vote and the game is over. So, Gil or not, our last chance will be the day before.

So if we subtract an innocent Gil, that would put the day before at one WW and three Ordos, which is just fine. So Gil doesn't help the tally at all. Keeping him around does not add an extra day of life to the village.

Okay, I admit I didn't think it that far. You're right. So, sorry sally, but I still suspect you the most.


edit: xed with Gwathensen

[Thinlómien]

I should vote soon-ish and I feel like voting sally, but something keeps me from just doing it... Oh well...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Tadaaa!

I am back after some fun hours playing association football (just to avoid confusion)

I have already looked over the posts that have been made since I left and I thought I spottet a thing or two that I found interesting, I will report back to you about that soon.

[Kath]

Right, it's bedtime for me so I must vote. I never did manage to go back over everyone with a clear mind, every time I tried I just kept finding that they weren't suspicious at all because in the back of my mind I always had this idea that Gwath was suspicious. Therefore I must vote for the one I find suspicious and that is:

++GWATH

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I might have spoken too soon when I said I spotted something interesting, when I re-read it, it became quite ordinary.

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

But why would a wolf-sally want to get rid of Gil in particular? Wouldn't she be more likely to try to get rid of somebody more involved? Gil isn't a threat to anybody at this point.

This was what I thought as well, I think Gil would be nice to have around as he is no thread and he will take up some of our focus. (unless of course that we just decide that he is innocent and never talk about him again)

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

He's a threat in numbers, one more innocent to get out of her way. Also, suggesting triple lynch with anybody else but Gil as the third lynchee would have been a so-called political suicide...

A thread in numbers?
Gil does not count for anymore than the rest of us does he?

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Yes. Or, getting rid of one innocent, and Gil was the only candidate whose lynch she could advocate without looking very suspicious herself.

Can you really advocate any lynch without looking very suspicious?
Maybe you can, but it is very difficult.

At first I thought this conversation reflected bad on Lommy, but after looking at it again it does not seem overly suspicious. I did find Lommy's thoughts a bit odd, but that does not need to mean anything and Phantom put things straight in the end anyways.

EDIT: Cross posted with Sally

[satansaloser2005]

Okay. My paper's done and I just got back from Lincoln, where I got my picture taken about 150 times. Sally's not a pretty girl. Sally doesn't like pictures. But Sally's a theater minor and they're required, so Sally had to go.


Oh wait. This isn't my blog!


Anyway, I'm back and still a tad cranky. Seems that I may be in for a lynching. If so, have at it. Seems every time I'm an innocent I try to help and end up dead. I'm all for tradition, so enjoy yourselves. (Told you. Cranky.)


Moving on. I'll go redo my analysis of Nerwen (so she'll see it all in one post and be happy again) and I'll see what else I can get done. If I do end up dying, I may as well make myself useful to the village, yeah? Because apparently making sure we don't have a non-existent player around on the last Day isn't being helpful. But never fear! I shall try to assist.


And then take a nap. Because I'd like to sleep at some point.

[/crabbiness]


ETA: No, I'm not crabby because of the game, by the way. Just so no one here thinks I'm mad at them. I'm just terribly sleep-deprived and such business.

[satansaloser2005]

By the way, I'm sure you can all guess what I was?


Gwath's last statement. Awkward much?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

By the way, I'm sure you can all guess what I was?

Well, since you haven't admitted to being a wolf yet, I guess you were innocent, Sally. I hope you'll remember that I did give you a chance to defend yourself.

[Nerwen]

Oh, and 'bye, phantom. I'll miss you.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Gwath

Because in that post I am associating myself with and practically defending someone who I (were I a wolf as you suggest) would have known would be revealed as a wolf upon her imminent lynching.

Gwath, just because you defended a wolf when she already had been sentenced to lynching does not necessarily mean you are innocent. For all we know, it could've been some sort of bluff.

[the phantom]

The internet was down in the lab at work, so yeah... haven't been able to read or do anything at all.

On a purely instinctual level I would like to lynch Gwath and Rune, leaving me as the only male in the entire community. But I don't think those instincts have anything to do with Werewolf.

As I said, I'm not sure if I'm thinking correctly on Sally due to meeting her in RL, because in RL, even though I was trying not to talk about the game or read her, she seemed rather innocent. But then maybe I'm wrong because I was actively trying to sabotage my readings on her. Anyway, were I a Rep I wouldn't have the guts to lynch her.

I admit that events have put Gwath into a rather suspicious position, so I can hardly object to lynching him.

I need to read over Rune. I have no leanings on him currently.

Lommy is being ususually nice to me. So naturally I'm won over and think she should live forever.

Now I'm going to try and read a little.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by the phantom

On a purely instinctual level I would like to lynch Gwath and Rune, leaving me as the only male in the entire community. But I don't think those instincts have anything to do with Werewolf.

Sounds similar to lupine alpha-male behavior - which, of course, ultimately just comes down to breeding rights. I'd say you've played too much Werewolf and it has worked its way into your basest instincts.