WW LX - Mortal Men, doomed to die

[Thinlómien]

Once again, the four met in the moonlit salon. One of them had the four swords with him.
”It was not too difficult to find them... that silly woman had locked them up with brooms and other cleaning equipment,” he chuckled.
”I hope you at least left a dead chicken there to scare her, or something,” one of his allies said in a rather sarcastic tone, picking his sword.
”There are no chickens on this island,” a third one observed in a just as critical tone, taking his sword too.
The last one thought the discussion was not even worth continuing, and picked his sword in silence.

The first one, now holding only his own sword, swung it in a beautiful arch. ”So, who shall we get rid of tonight?”

~*~

In the morning, all of the guests - save one poor soul - woke up and walked downstairs just like the morning before. And just like the morning before, there was a body on the table, four cuts on the right arm.

”Spooky,” Nienna the pirate said with a shiver.
”Interesting,” observed Rune the sorceror.
”Disgusting!” exclaimed the queens Lhuna and Nerwen in unison.

And poor Kath, the body on the table, did not say anything at all.

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Kent2010 - Black Númenórean scam artist
Legate of Amon Lanc - rebelling Haradian King
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Nilpaurion Felagund - fussy courtier
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Groin Redbeard - Variag Warlord of Khand
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel

Day2 has started. Everybody, feel free to talk. Hunter, feel free to change your pick at any point suitable for you.

[satansaloser2005]

Awwww, Kath! *hugs her, or would if she wasn't dead* To think Nilp and I return to this. The poor dear!


K, which one of you did it and why?


(I'm going to go look at her posts and see what I can find, but be patient since I need to work on my paper that's due tomorrow.)

[Kent2010]

Changes from yesterday, I no longer suspect Rune. After further thought, and looking through his posts, just by the way he went after Nogrod pretty good yesterday he looks innocent. Nogrod seems to be a player that wolves would let be, and let him do his own thing, someone they would not want to tangle with unless he became too big of a problem. It could be contrived, but the way Rune went after Nogrod early on yesterday does not seem evil.

Anyways I guess it comes down to my use of the word "random"
-Rune

For me, it really was not the word random, although I did question how Eomer said it was the only one of the bunch that made sense if you yourself said it was '98% random.' It looked more like slapping on a general label (saying Izzy's first post was careful) just said it looked like you had some reason to it. However, Izzy's posts further in the day definitely did look careful.

My only question is why Izzy, why not wilwarin? The way she explained her vote as Legate said made it look like she was voting to not look suspicious and not necessarily the person she most suspected. Also, post 61 just has careful written all over it.

My other question (for everyone to start the day), what is with the multiple people saying "If I live," "If I stay alive...," or similar words?

In post 39 Brinn says "shall I survive..."
Shasta in 42 says"If I live..." and promises to do more today
wilwarin in 51 says "If I make it"
and
Izzy in 86 said "If I am still alive..."

Izzy turned out to be a known innocent, but Ijust don't like these types of phrases, because it just seems unecessary, or at least unnecessary at this point of the game. If the person who says it is a wolf, it looks like a clever way to protect yourself from a lynch because it reads as "I am going to do more tomorrow, and see I am already thinking ahead...IF I survive!" I am curious to what others think about this, maybe it's just that I still don't know the 'lingo,' or is it something more evil?

And I have completely flipped about Nogrod - more later...if I am still alive! (I just couldn't resist the melodrama.)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

All right, well. Kath... I think she was not very active yesterDay, was she? I will take a look at her posts more in detail, but my initial impression is that she was not very active, so possibly she has been picked to leave no tracks. I will take a look...

Anyway, another thing to consider might be yesterDay's voting. Basically, there were several choices at the beginning - and by the way, I would hope that toDay we will avoid randomness anymore - but perhaps there may be something determined from the latter voting - though not sure. Because in fact, the decisive voting happened in the last-minute voting fray and in a bit of unclear situation. Kath herself voted for Isabell at the moment when it became equal... I think there can be hardly anything as a reason for kill. So that would really look like a safe kill.

Whatever. I shall look now and see, also if other people manage to show around. I don't think I will be around for a long time now, but if I go to sleep earlier, I should be able to post perhaps also in the morning (my time), at least a bit.

[wilwarin538]

Here and reading, be back shortly with thoughts...

[wilwarin538]

A list:

Izzy - 35: says day ones are difficult, shouldn't find people guilty for being their usual day 1 selves, 69: not worried about Nog, agrees the RPing should stop, 77: thought Legate was being silly about the Nilp vote, 86: made a list, 98: talks about her possible vote, 107: the reason for her death, wants to keep the tie, after Nog doesn't like that, votes Sally....dies, is innocent

Kath - #17: says hi, 40: points out that she said morrow and not Morrow, 82: confused about possible Nogrod bandwagon, 103: nice long list, 111: votes Izzy cause of "the post"....dies, is innocent

Nienna - #24: says hi, will be back, has no inclinations since it is Day 1, 37: defends herself to Nogrod, says she wants to participate more in this game, 80: votes Sally because of her Nog vote

Kent - #12: introduces his character to Legate, 16: wants to make a deal with Legate, 63: pretty random comments, but long, 78: votes Rune,

Legate - #6: describes how he is familiar with some and not with others, says there isn't much to say Day 1 but wants people to talk, 8: says Eomer is disrespectful, then says that's not really important, 9: comment on Shasta's post, 11: calls Eomer a terrible person, 13: comments on Kent, then says everyone should try to say more important things, 15: repeats that, 23: happy there is discussion, will be back later, is optimistic, 44: nice long list, so not rewriting all that, 59: thinks people should stop RPing, doesn't like my vote reasoning, doesn't like Nilp's vote (though he almost always does that, if he didn't then we should worry), keeping an eye on Sally, 65/66: blur for everyone, except feels good about Eomer and Legate, 70: says he's never played with me, when he has once, but doesn't like my reasoning either, 94: considers voting Izzy, 97: votes Izzy, seems to expect a bangwagon

Nogrod -#18: jumps down Kath's throat about her not coming back til toMorrow, when she meant her RL morrow then random pirate jibberish and such, 21: doesn't like that Kent tried to make a deal with Legate, calls Eomer hasty, says he will vote for a "non-participater", 25: makes some lists, says again he will vote for a 0 poster, thinks Legate innocent, 28: goes on a long rant about Nienna, 30: responds to Rune's dislike, says "suspect" numerous times, 31: says he loves Eomer, 67: doesn't really like any of the votes so far, 81: comments on all the votes so far, 92: wants to vote Sally for bandwagoning on him, 95: wants people to talk, 117: votes Sally too late

Shasta - #7: shock, 32: one liner, calls Nogrod a rat, 42: votes Nogrod

Nerwen - #33: agrees with her "husband", says they shouldn't trust the sorceror (yikes), 50: seems to be suspicious of Brinn, 57: now suspicious of me as well, and all my sorcery and such,

Wilwa - #20: talk about random stuff and how Day 1 is so hard, 51: try to use my most logical reasoning possible to try to find someone to randomly vote for, comes down to Legate or Eomer, coin toss for Eomer, 61: defend my reasoning

Nilp - #46: wants to elope with Sally, 47: surprise surprise, votes himself

Rune - #22: random comments, 27: doesn't like Nogrod's 25 post either, says he will probably vote for him, 41: says Nog is being aggressive, 48: likes Legate's list, 49: makes a little list, votes Izzy, 76: defends himself and a couple others, 89: defends his vote choice

Lhuna - #34: likes Eomer, calls Nogrod abrasive, Legate rubs her the wrong way, 62: thinks Nog and Eomer innocent, worried about Legate and Shasta, ok with Brinn, doesn't like Sally's reaction to Brinn, 64: votes Legate

Eomer - #5: doesn't care if we all die, 10: random, 14: random comment on something Legate said, 19: comments on Nogrod, kinda likes his approach but kinda doesn't, 26: doesn't like Noggy's post in 25, 29: calls Nogrod a zealot, says he will vote for someone who wants friends, says humbug, 45: seems to be leaning towards Nogrod, 52: doesn't think my vote was reasonable, 53: quick little list, 56: talks about votes so far, 85: agrees with Rune's vote, 101: quick comments on all the votes, 105: wants to save Nog, will vote for Izzy or Sally, 112: simply votes Izzy

Groin - nothing

Sally - #36: a little list of everyone who's spoken, pretty random comments that had already been spoken, 43: says she would vote Nogrod over Rune, 58: agrees to elop with Nilp, votes Nogrod

Eönwë - #72: sticks his head in quickly, 83: something about "ph" and "f", considering making a list, 88: seems to be suggesting that Brinn and Sally could be wraiths, 96: keeps on about the Greek letter phi (which can represent both "ph" and "f", just to clear that up), 115: also votes Izzy

Brinniel - #38: says she never has much to say on Day 1 and that this time is no different, 39: uses logic similar to mine and votes Sally

Wow, that was hard. Ok.....give me a little bit to ponder, then I'll be back with my actual oppinions. This really helped me get organised....

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Kent2010

Changes from yesterday, I no longer suspect Rune. After further thought, and looking through his posts, just by the way he went after Nogrod pretty good yesterday he looks innocent. Nogrod seems to be a player that wolves would let be, and let him do his own thing, someone they would not want to tangle with unless he became too big of a problem. It could be contrived, but the way Rune went after Nogrod early on yesterday does not seem evil.


For me, it really was not the word random, although I did question how Eomer said it was the only one of the bunch that made sense if you yourself said it was '98% random.' It looked more like slapping on a general label (saying Izzy's first post was careful) just said it looked like you had some reason to it. However, Izzy's posts further in the day definitely did look careful.

My only question is why Izzy, why not wilwarin? The way she explained her vote as Legate said made it look like she was voting to not look suspicious and not necessarily the person she most suspected. Also, post 61 just has careful written all over it.

Why not Wilwa?

I don't know. . .I am quite indifferent about Wilwa, I have absolutely no opinion about her. (In the game)

Anyways I like the way you question everything, it is refreshing.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

About Rune.

Anyway Rune manages to be my top suspect right now with a slight margin over Sally.

Now there's nothing bad in one getting back to posting before the DL after one has said he has no possibility for that and has therefore voted early. No problem with that. No problem whatsoever (eg. this is no sarcasm but a plain fact). It's good people can get back and try to help in the voting-process even if they have themselves voted already in a game of no retractions.

But what did Rune actually do there in the end of the Day? Well he defended himself - even if no one had made any strong suspicions on him or none was actually entertaining the idea of lynching him (except for Kent that is).

And then like twenty minutes before the deadline, with all the hair-raising last minute hassle to come, he just backs away never to show his face anymore on that Day.

That is the blunder the wolves (and cobblers) do time and time again: when the lynch is going nicely from their POV they just lean back and relax - and try to be careful not to mess with anything controversial in the end of the Day. But that non-involvement is exactly the thing that betrays them. It has not been just once or twice this has happened. And this looks like a case straight out from the "Werewolf-handbook of catching the villains".

Look everyone, Nogrod suspects me! This is the closest thing to proof of my innocens you will ever get.

Anyways I cannot defend my self against his arguments, because it is based on when I post and not what I post. He is actually right in some way, because I did sit back and followed end of the day. I had very little to say and it was not extremely important for me who was lynched, as long as it was not me.

EDIT: Cross posted with Nogrod

[Nogrod]

I was just going to turn the PC off when I saw this one...

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Look everyone, Nogrod suspects me! This is the closest thing to proof of my innocens you will ever get.

Anyways I cannot defend my self against his arguments, because it is based on when I post and not what I post. He is actually right in some way, because I did sit back and followed end of the day. I had very little to say and it was not extremely important for me who was lynched, as long as it was not me.

Wrong (the bolded part), as you yourself kind of admit in the follow-up. You seem to forget the important part of what you did there in the end of the Day... you defended yourself for nonexistent threats. Which is the way the baddies see the world: threats everywhere and everyone ready to lynch them. And really, I don't know about you but at least I'm very much interested in who gets lynched even if I'm not myself in danger (which is rare indeed). Innocents have a common cause and insecurity about how the lynchings go. The baddies know the different outcomes in advance and in a good situation they can sit back and relax. Which I think you were doing - and which you even admit.

Trust me, I have caught a number of wolves from that behaviour (and a cobbler in the last game).

Okay. Enough today. More tomorrow.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Wrong (the bolded part), as you yourself kind of admit in the follow-up. You seem to forget the important part of what you did there in the end of the Day... you defended yourself for nonexistent threats. Which is the way the baddies see the world: threats everywhere and everyone ready to lynch them. And really, I don't know about you but at least I'm very much interested in who gets lynched even if I'm not myself in danger (which is rare indeed). Innocents have a common cause and insecurity about how the lynchings go. The baddies know the different outcomes in advance and in a good situation they can sit back and relax. Which I think you were doing - and which you even admit.

I always reply when people say something about me, unless I deem it unimportant.

About the lynching. . .you said it your self

Originally Posted by Nogrod

well, who has good cases on Day1 anyway?

I knew I did not have a good case and that more often than not, it is an ordo who is lynched on day 1. . . Why would I go out and try to convince everyone to vote Isabel, when I was not at all sure of her guilt?
I am only obligated to tell why I vote as I do, I don't have to campaign for others to do the same.

Anyways I need sleep as well, so you will have to wait for a bit before I do any analysing.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I seem to recall Wilwa about ready to vote for Lhuna - she said something about Lhuna creeping into her house in the dead of night to try to feast on her young, or something like that - so imagine my surprise when Wilwa did not in fact vote for Lhuna to be executed. Of course, I'll need to go back and check the wording but that's how I remember it. It's this kind of inconsistency which really gets me. I'm leaning towards thinking she's guilty but I'll confirm my opinion later.

Or does anyone see a problem with this?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

However, I may be missing something, but the fact is, I simply cannot find the post Eomer is talking about (where Wilwa expresses suspicion of Lhuna).

Eomer, are you sure you didn't imagine it?

He's just trying to bug me.....and he's succeeding....

Alright Eomer, I re-read your posts from yesterDay, I see now that you didn't actually suspect Nogrod at anytime, my confusion was just a result of me trying to read everything and take notes in the very small frame of time that I had, so I'll give you that one. But I still don't feel too awesome about you. Therefore, I'm just gonna leave it at that. Unless you do something amazing to totally turn me around, you are my main suspect.

The wolves will probably move for even a slight suspicion of someone being the seer but otherwise there are diferent variations: no-trace-kill is a safe bet everytime, confusing kills are super if there is a situation for it, framing kills are nice but seem not to work unless in certain situations, sporty-kills pick up the non-posters and are a sub-group of safe kills while killing the loudmouths is totally different tactics having an eye to gaining the control of ideas in a quiet village, some times they need to be extra careful with the ranger and/or the hunter but normally not on the first Nights etc...

I agree with this. That is why it's so hard to interpret Night 1 kill choices, and very easy for arguments to start in regard to peoples interpretations. The possible reasons why they chose Kath probably shouldn't be discussed again until there is more info.

Anyway, just popping in and trying to stay updated. Off to lunch, will try to be back in a couple of hours.

x'posted with Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Well, then–

++Sally

for bad voting and bad vibes (see her response to Brinn and her opening post toDay).

[Nerwen]

Goodnight all.

[satansaloser2005]

The weird thing is that although I think Eomer's acting very suspicious, at the moment I don't think he's a wolf. Does that make sense?


I'm still troubled by Noggie, and I've still been getting bad vibes from Lhuna. In my book my beloved Nilpiekins is innocent and I'm sure Brinn is too. Lhuna's crossed over to the dark side, though. I'll look over her posts again, but I think I may be voting her toDay. Maybe....I don't know. I'll have to see.

With Nog though, I think it's just the general mistrust (or rather, hesitation to trust him) that I always have for the poor kid. YesterDay he looked really off the wall and he still does, but I'm a bit doubtful that it's for dark purposes now. I'll have to make my final decision later, but I think I'll leave him alone for the rest of the Day and see how things shape up after the vote toDay.


I don't think there's been a vote count, actually. I'll just go do that real quick.


ETA: Nightie night, Nerwen.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Rune

I don’t like her first comment of the game, it seems like it is written so that people shall pity her, but then again it is very like her to portray her self as a victim. (I could be reading it wrong)

Yeah, you did read it wrong. I never asked for pity; I merely wanted to explain that my participation would be minimal and it was based on RL reasons. Random votes aren't good votes, but I couldn't avoid it. I hate being called suspicious because I'm unable to participate as much as I would like. And that first "Nogrod should vote me now" comment was meant to be sarcastic, if that was the first comment you were talking about.

Okay, Eomer's making me uncomfortable, and now with reason. He's acting overly defensive and seems to go after anyone who suspects or disagrees with his theories.

Originally Posted by Eomer

Brinniel consumes the vibes by osmosis: Kath was an untraceable kill - Eomer is a villain.

I don't know why you're connecting my thoughts with others' earlier posts. Any bad vibes I received from you were based only on your own posts and the reason I said Kath was an untraceable kill was because she often has been in the past.

Originally Posted by Kent

I don't know about why wolves would kill who they do, I would imagine their first target would always be the seer, and someone's use of words may tip them off. But if so many people believe Kath was a no-trail kill then there has to be some kind of precedent in WW where the wolves target no-trail people?

Yes, the seer is a priority target, but rarely can the wolves spot a potential seer after the first Day since it's a bit early to tell. Wolves often make no-trace kills because it's easy early in the game and if they have no clue as to who the seer is, why risk killing someone whose death could point back to them?

I don't really see why Kath's death has led to such a big debate. She could've been killed for either reasons, but there's really no way to know for sure, so there's no reason to base a suspicion on any sort of assumption on why Kath died. Savvy?

From the votes yesterDay, I'd say Sally's is the most suspicious since the timing could indicate an opportunist wolf. Other than that, I don't have much reason to suspect her.

I have to get ready then go to class soon, so a vote will come sometime within the next hour.

[wilwarin538]

K, change of plans for me, I'm voting now, cause it's seeming very likely that I won't be able to make it back. Don't however be surprised if I pop back in quickly closer to the end, it's just not guaranteed.

++Eomer

That shouldn't come as a surprise.

Good luck everyone!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, I'm around just for a little bit, so I'm very very quickly posting a short summary of people as to toDay...

Nienna - is basically not around. Now, I would not like to start about that, but I think people who are silent should try not to be that silent anymore, because otherwise nobody is able to read anything about them.
Kent2010 - I was somewhat unsettled by something in his posts at the beginning of this Day, but otherwise the feeling of him reasonable and trying remains.
Nogrod - still looks quite like a typical Nogrod, and even his recent sort of outburst does not seem any suspicious to me or anything.
Shastanis Althreduin - did he post anything toDay?
wilwarin538 - with the recent posting with Eomer and all I am becoming again a bit more confused, so I don't know. Maybe it would do good to look at her in total... or then maybe who knows, as sometimes she seems to me quite hard to get. "Chaotic."
Nerwen - somewhat hard to say, she gets harder to read when she posts, though basically the feeling I'm getting about her is genuine
Nilpaurion Felagund - not posted much more, hope to see more in the future
Rune Son of Bjarne - looks still more or less the same to me, like a good Rune
Lhunardawen - did not post toDay yet
Eomer of the Rohirrim - okay, I probably really do not get him, but whatever. I could understand if he was trying to lay traps for Wraiths, but the way he posted really does not make much sense to me. He makes me feel uneasy... have to think more. Because really making no sense in some ways... if there was a Cobbler, it would have been easier to say.
Groin Redbeard - did not post AT ALL... I hope he shows up
satansaloser2005 - posts a bit more scarcely, so it's hard to say now. I would certainly like her to post more: otherwise, just sticking with my feelings from yesterDay.
Eönwë - he showed for a bit in the beginning, I think, but did not really say much. Hope he will show up yet too.
Brinniel - also did not quite show up yet toDay either, unless I missed something?

Overall, one thing I don't like is that this far - the really lack of posting from many people, just basically today only some posted - hope the following almost-four hours will make a difference... (well, I can also imagine that when I come back home there will be two more pages ) I will be hopefully back at some two hours before DL for certain, and then keep around...

edit: x-ed with nerwen&sally

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

My friend Asbjørn just stopped by and I have not seen him for a long time, so I would rather spend time with him than with you. I don't know when he will be leaving so I will vote now.

++Eönwë

His way of playing so far don't sit right with me. He needs to say more about what he thinks and not just comment on what other people say. The only problem I have with voting this way, is that I have a feeling that this could just be the way Eönwë plays, no matter if he is bad or good.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

The only problem I have with voting this way, is that I have a feeling that this could just be the way Eönwë plays, no matter if he is bad or good.

It is.

And now for a list...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Nienna - uneasy
Kent2010 - decent
Legate of Amon Lanc - somewhat uneasy
Nogrod - quite good
Shastanis Althreduin - slightly uneasy
wilwarin538 - not good at all
Nerwen - allright, I suppose
Nilpaurion Felagund - ok
Rune Son of Bjarne - small bit uneasy
Lhunardawen - allright, I suppose
Groin Redbeard - n/a
satansaloser2005 - uneasy
Eönwë - a bit uneasy
Brinniel - not good at all

Not especially helpful, I'm sure, but there you go.

[Kent2010]

I probably should have voted before my classes, wow this is horrible.

[wilwarin538]

Nerwen-->Sally
Rune--> Steve
Wilwa-->Eomer
Brinn-->Eomer
Eomer --> Brinn
Nienna --> Sally (2)
Nilp --> Eonwe
Legate --> Eomer (3)

I believe that's it...

[Kent2010]

How about Shasta? I have seen this not-appearing act too many times and he got away with it as a baddie before, we shouldn't keep giving out free passes while we lynch the people who are showing a willingness (maybe regretably) posting.

[Kent2010]

++Eonwe

[Thinlómien]

Stop posting.

[Thinlómien]

The lordlings were very grieved by adorable Lady Kath's death, in fact, so grieved that many of them could only cry and sob in the corners and not discuss the murder. Worst of all was poor Warlord Groin, who had already been badly upset by Lady Lómiel's death – now he was totally distraught. He had not said a single word in the public discussion, just mumbled something about taking his own life. No one paid much attention to his whispered threats, though...

The gloominess did not affect all, in fact, many of the guests were discussing just as actively as the day before, but still nearly a third of them refused to state any opinion on who should be killed. They had had enough innocent blood... or so they thought.

There was a heated debate whether they should get rid of Eomer, the houndmaster, or Lord Eönwë, and no conclusion could be reached. After some debate, they were getting impatient...

”What if you just kill them both?”

The guests froze. Lord Thinroz, whom they had not seen for the whole day, had silently walked into the room.

”That's what you want, right? More bloodshed in my house. Kill each oher, kill, kill all of yourselves, I don't care. You murderers.”

The guests eyes each other unsurely. However mad their host appeared, they did not want to insult him, truly, it would have been against all old codes of hosts and guests. So, after a pause, Captain Nogrod ventured:

”Don't you really have a preference, my lord? We cannot quite reach a compromise...”
”Preference? Ha! Of course I have a preference!” the old man cackled. ”Kill him!” He pointed at Eomer. ”Kill him! He was not grieved by my daughter's death, and he said he didn't care if everybody here died! Let him taste the sweetness of his own words, truly!”

The guests saw no better alternative than to obey their host. Those most strongly against Eomer were about to go to look for suitable weapons when Lord Thinroz stopped them. ”Nay! I said, let him taste it. So I say, let him taste how it is to be me, a man tortured by loss. Housekeeper! Bring my sleeping medicine! A tenfold dose. Now.”

The housekeeper, looking very pale, emerged from the kitchen in a few minutes. She was holding a mug full of dark green liquid.

”You have to drink it,” Wilwarin said to Eomer. Brinn and Legate walked to Eomer's sides and threatened him with knives.

”I got it, I got it!” he said. ”I'll have it. But just, don't think you made the right choice. And you, old man, I tell you, you're not going to leave this house alive, so don't gloat! You accuse me of bloodlust, yet you are even worse!”

That being said, he drank the potion. Almost immediately, he collapsed onto the table. Nothing in his body indicated that he had been a part of the murder conspiracy, nor did a search through his room reveal anything either.

Feeling even gloomier than in the morning, the guests retreated to their rooms.

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2
Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Kent2010 - Black Númenórean scam artist
Legate of Amon Lanc - rebelling Haradian King
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Nilpaurion Felagund - fussy courtier
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Groin Redbeard - Variag Warlord of Khand
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel

Night3 has begun. Un-ordos, you know what to do.

[Thinlómien]

Once again, the four met in the salon. They sat around the table there in silence for a long time. Then, one of them spoke.

”Remember Eomer's words today? Do you reckon it would be a good idea to make them true and get rid of Lord Thinroz?”
”Lord Thinroz? No. It would create chaos and panic, and we do not want that,” another replied.
”Not yet,” added a third voice.
”Yes,” the second speaker agreed.
”Then we have to kill someone else,” the fourth one said, rather matter-of-factly.
”But whom? Are there any orders? Wishes?” the one who had spoken first asked.
”I think he said we would have to deal with this to the best of our abilities, and he would not intervene,” the third speaker said.
”So then let us kill someone we don't want to be around anymore. I have a suggestion,” said the one who had replied the original question.
The other listened his talk and quickly agreed the suggestion was a good one.

~*~

Kent was fast asleep when they entered his room. He woke up when the door close behind the intruders. ”Who are you? What are you doing in my room?” he shouted at the cloaked figures that approached him with swords in their hands. None of them made a reply. They circled him, and he was overcome by fear, and froze. He saw the tallest of the figures raise his sword and the blade approach him tormentingly slowly until everything ended, although in reality it had been less than a second between the figure raising his sword and Kent's head falling on the floor.

”Neat,” one of the decapitator's companions observed.
”Not too much so,” the decapitator himself replied, wiping his sword on Kent's clothes.
”Now we only have to move the body...” the third one said.
”Ah why bother? They will already suspect murder and to be honest, no one wants to wipe blood off the table, or look at the ugly cow doing it looking terrified,” the fourth one said.

~*~

When the guests woke up next morning and came down to the hall, it was empty. There was no lord Thinroz, no housekeeper, no body.

”Oh no more murder!” Brinn sighed happily.
”No more murder?” asked Sally. ”Then where's Kent?”

The guests exchanged glances.

”I'll go and see if he's still asleep,” Wilwarin volunteered.
”I'm coming with you. Just to check,” Legate said.

After a few minutes they came back to the main hall.

”He's been murdered,” Wilwarin reported.
”Head cut off,” Legate added.

”Well then it's up to the housekeeper to get rid of the body and up to us to discuss, ladies and gentlemen,” concluded Nilpaurion the courtier.

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2
Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2
Kent2010 (ordo) - Black Númenórean scam artist - killed on Night3

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Legate of Amon Lanc - rebelling Haradian King
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Nilpaurion Felagund - fussy courtier
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
Groin Redbeard - Variag Warlord of Khand
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel

Day3 has begun. Lordlingses, I want postses. Hunter, I can tak a pic if you want to change.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

All right, so. Before I move to trying to look at the Nightly kill itself, let me state one thing first. Or, rather ask.

Nogrod, the claim you made yesterDay just before the end of voting. Could you now please tell us who is that you have dreamt of toNight? Seemingly you had the time to do that, so just tell us.

I am asking, mainly, because I am innocent - an ordinary villager. But I first want to hear what is then the dream you had toNight, Nog.

I hope you are around, meanwhile I will take a look if I can find a clue in as to why was Kent killed, and also maybe re-check the voting yesterDay. Be back in a short while.

[Nogrod]

Very interesting game from the wolves indeed last Night!

On other matters there are the good news and the bad news.

Bad news are I haven't two wolves to give you.

Good news are that Nerwen is an ordo and will bring her sharp mind to aid you for two Days now (I was suspecting her the most because she seemed to be so well in in the minds of the lupine-thinking).

I'll be back with some more thoughts after the ice-hockey game ends... which should be in half an hour or something.

EDIT: X'd with Legate... Nice try.

[Lhunardawen]

The Eomer voters:

wilwa: Eomer's post in which he speculates on Kath's dead didn't sit well with her, serious misremembering (if such a word exists) of his posts which she later admitted, "I still don't feel too awesome about you. Therefore, I'm just gonna leave it at that."

It's an early vote, so it could be anything, but the reasoning is...odd. Oh well, can't say I never voted based on gut feel myself.

Brinn: gut feeling, he was acting overly defensive and seemed to go after those who suspect or disagree with him.

This is a more sensible (albeit still wrong) vote.

Legate: wraith. no need for this.

Eonwe: to save his "innocent" self

Fair enough, but after posting that joke list shortly before DL I'm inclined to suspect him.


As for the others, I'm still not too sure about Nienna, Rune is present but slipping my radar and this is scary, and sally is most likely my target for tomorrow. YesterDay she had quite a few posts, barely any of which were helpful. And I still find that "no comment" remark she had earlier toDay suspicious.

So what's the technical term for killing your own husband again?

++LEGATE OF AMON LANC

Good night (already morning, actually), everyone.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

So what's the technical term for killing your own husband again?.

It your case, it's regicide.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Lommy might have said it was random, but I cannot let the thought go that maybe the special roles where picked after some criteria. Unfortunately I have not been around the werewolf games much or the downs in genneral, so I don't know much about who interacts much or what people have done in ww games.

No, and now completely truthfully, she randomised the votes totally.

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

So what's the technical term for killing your own husband again?

Disgusting.

All right, whatever. It's been nice to play with you all people, really it was I actually remained alive for far longer than I did in the last few games I played. And it's been quite refreshing and enjoyable to play.

I wish you all remaining ones to have a nice rest of the game... and to some of you (but certainly not Nogrod) good luck.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

All right, whatever. It's been nice to play with you all people, really it was .

The pleasure is mutual, your Majesty.

[Nogrod]

My last meeting closed earlier than I feared so I can take part in the last hours at least to read through toDay's posting and trying to give you my views on people.

Sadly I know only the roles of Nerwen and Legate, so of others I can only give you my impressions and suspicions - which are susceptible to be wrong as with anyone. But you'll be able to trust there is no malicious intent there behind my ponderings and that I have no "tactical" reasons to withold any suspicions trying to cover my own life for the Night to come.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I wish you all remaining ones to have a nice rest of the game... and to some of you (but certainly not Nogrod) good luck.

Well, luck will have nothing to do with my death on the coming Night - unless all your mates forget to send the kill to Lommy.


Okay, I'll go back reading what's been happening so far to toDay since I left.

[Eönwë]

Good...erm... evening... to you all.

I don't really like trusting seer reveals too often, so I don't really like the way the village immediately believes him. He could just be a manipulative wolf with a well-though-out case. Werewolf is after all a manipulative game so it's best to be wary.

Nevertheless, I've thought before that something seems a little wrong with Legate this game, and I guess this is our chance to test it (I doubt we could lynch anyone else by now anyway). At least then we will know the identity of at least one wolf (Legate or Nogrod).

And even if Nogrod is a wolf, and the real seer hasn't spoken up yet (and why should they, they're in no danger) then at least the true identity of the seer will be kept hidden and they can continue finding out roles.

However, I am inclined to believe Nogrod, so:

++Legate

edit: x-ed with Nerwen #283 et après- something strange happened to my computer

[satansaloser2005]

Hey, I'm sorry to slack but this day (day, not Day, mind you) turned really sour so I'm not really in the mood to analyze a bunch of stuff. Assuming I'm alive toMorrow and that I'm able to talk more I will give you some hopefully lovely opinions on things, but for now I just need to relax. Sorry again.

My vote is obvious though:


++Legate


You were clever, but not quite clever enough for the seer. Have a nice death.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Wilwa

I think either Sally, Rune or Eonwe would be good choices for a dream toNight, since they seem to have gotten the most attention over the last few Days.

I'll consider your suggestion...

Originally Posted by Rune

If Nogrod really is the seer, then we have both him and Legate with special roles in Lommy's game. . .

You bet that occured to me too at the moment Lommy told me Legate's role... So following that logic you'd be quite right with Brinn and maybe Sally; but then we should also consider you Rune!

Originally Posted by Nilp

Will we have a DAY where little is done save speculate on Nogrod and Legate, and afterwards voting for Legate? Will this not be an aid to those three others who wish to hide in the shadows? Will we waste a DAY given to us by the One in such manner?

Exactly. More could have been done toDay... and more still can be done. Just come forwards people and share your ideas. ToMorrow you need to lynch someone so why not get into it already?

I think I may have found something interesting from Nilp's listings... Just a minute and I'll go back and check.