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Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-06-2009, 04:34 PM

Okay, well - now I guess that did it, Nogrod, there is practically no other choice for me, but that you are a Wraith. Now the thing is to figure out what are you doing and what did you follow with the death of Kent, and also Kath before - okay, though the no-trail kill is really likely. But then, also perhaps who your packmates might be. Anyway, let's see. I will probably not be here for long at night, but will pop up in the morning (my time, that is, in several hours). Anyway, I just appeal on everybody to not take Nogrod's claims for granted. Critical thinking, yes, use your own thinking.

Anyway Nogrod, you are just impossible.

Nogrod · 05-06-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Anyway Nogrod, you are just impossible.

I could say the same of you...

But I'm not going to say it.

I do appreaciate your effort. People do not call you a good player for nothing. You get ten points. But you're a baddie still. Sorry.

satansaloser2005 · 05-06-2009, 05:21 PM

Well this is....interesting. Veeeery interesting. The question is whether I should comment or not, at the risk of saying something I shouldn't. Does that make sense? No? Good, me neither.

Well from what I see there's one thing in this game that's for sure. The question is whether to vote for the nassssty Legate now or wait until some discussion's been had.

For now though I need to go, so I'll be back in four hours or so with some feedback.

Nogrod · 05-06-2009, 05:37 PM

One more thing about this subject of Kent's death.

As I said I thought him somewhat suspicious in the end of yesterDay. But his last post quite left me totally baffled.

What he did at the last minute (voted Eönwë) was of course a right thing to do as it was a reaction to my revealment-post and I had shown that a baddie was actually trying to kill someone. There was no need for you Legate to sacrifice a fellow wolf there - and looking at how you played it was something you dared.

He got it and voted for Eönwë as he was the only other candidate to vote to save Eomer - who looked really innocent at that moment because of wolf-Legate's vote. (Which is not saying anything about Eönwë's guilt or innocence.)

But was he just a very clever and able villager or was he a baddie who was cunning enough to show himself being a good one at the last minute? That was what I wondered a lot as I did (and do) think he could be cabable of it.

Well, we know it now.

So you took away a cabable player who was able to react fast and do the right thing. Like you did with Kath. Lower profile but cabable. That's what you guys go for. Hah, I can see you calling for this tactics Legate...

And you were not after me last Night because you thought the ranger would save me and that a "no kill" last Night would basically prove my point. (Just hoping the ranger took a risk now - or that fex. Groin is the ranger and now comes up to do his duty)

Why you didn't pick Nerwen as she's innocent and also fits the description of lower profile but also cabable still beats me - unless it was because you really wanted to play this masquerade to the fullest and wished to give Legate a chance to make a game for it.

A good choice I must say. You play well as I've said already.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 05-06-2009, 05:51 PM

If Nogrod really is the seer, then we have both him and Legate with special roles in Lommy's game. . .

Maybe one should make theories based on the mods preferences instead of what has been said and done? Just a though. . .

satansaloser2005 · 05-06-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

If Nogrod really is the seer, then we have both him and Legate with special roles in Lommy's game. . .

Maybe one should make theories based on the mods preferences instead of what has been said and done? Just a though. . .

As far as I understand Lommie randomized the roles. No special treatment was given to anyone regardless of their relationship to her.

In other news, I need to dash, because I'm already going to be late. I'll be back later tonight (my night, Noggie

) and will have comments then.

wilwarin538 · 05-06-2009, 06:23 PM

So.......wow....

First, I can't believe how wrong I was about Eomer, I feel so foolish for pursuing him so strongly and then being so terribly wrong.

Secondly, I trust Nogrod. That may seem odd considering that yesterDay I was unsure of him, and very sure of Legate. But I was also very sure of Eomer and was wrong, so....yeah. I'm gonna probably vote Legate.

I think either Sally, Rune or Eonwe would be good choices for a dream toNight, since they seem to have gotten the most attention over the last few Days.

I'm saying all this now because it will be another very busy Day for me, I seriously doubt I'll be able to make it back on tonight, and I'll only be able to jump on for about 15 minutes tomorrow (my morrow) to vote. Sorry about this. Day 4 I'll be on as much, if not more, as I was yesterDay.

Nienna · 05-06-2009, 08:20 PM

My thoughts:

I think the village would be foolish not to trust Nogrod on this one. If he is not the seer and we kill off an innocent Legate then at least we will know that Nogrod is a wolf and can kill him the next day. If Nog is the seer and Legate is a wolf then killing him off is can only be good for the village. This means that after toDay we will know at least one wolf. We will then be able to analyze people's voting and playing with at least some concrete knowledge in hand. A final option would be if both Legate and Nogrod are wolfs and they are sacrificing Legate to keep Nog alive... but since no one was really suspecting Nog and since then the real seer would probably come forward... I'm thinking it's not this last option.

++Legate

I should be around for a while tomorrow my time to add input.

Nerwen · 05-06-2009, 08:29 PM

Quick note: a lot of evil-looking posting happened after I was gone yesterDay... they can't all be wraiths, but I think especially Wilwa, Eönwë and Brinniel need looking at. Also possibly Shasta, just from the way Legate talks about him.

I do not have time to say much now, and in fact I'm mildly surprised to be still alive... but then I was surprised to find Lhuna alive yesterDay. Looks like the wolves are too afraid of the Ranger to pick anyone half-obvious. (Or else Lhuna's one of them.)

–Well, that's my theory. I want to hear others.

And let's not forget Sally... (Yes, half the village is looking evil!

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well this is....interesting. Veeeery interesting. The question is whether I should comment or not, at the risk of saying something I shouldn't. Does that make sense? No? Good, me neither.

Well from what I see there's one thing in this game that's for sure. The question is whether to vote for the nassssty Legate now or wait until some discussion's been had.

Why? Do you have some specific reason to think that Nogrod's making a false reveal, and that it isn't wolf-on-wolf?

Anyway–

++Legate of Amon Lanc.

I hope to be back later, but I can't promise anything– busy day ahead.

05-06-2009, 04:34 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, well - now I guess that did it, Nogrod, there is practically no other choice for me, but that you are a Wraith. Now the thing is to figure out what are you doing and what did you follow with the death of Kent, and also Kath before - okay, though the no-trail kill is really likely. But then, also perhaps who your packmates might be. Anyway, let's see. I will probably not be here for long at night, but will pop up in the morning (my time, that is, in several hours). Anyway, I just appeal on everybody to not take Nogrod's claims for granted. Critical thinking, yes, use your own thinking. Anyway Nogrod, you are just impossible. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-06-2009, 05:21 PM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Well this is....interesting. Veeeery interesting. The question is whether I should comment or not, at the risk of saying something I shouldn't. Does that make sense? No? Good, me neither. Well from what I see there's one thing in this game that's for sure. The question is whether to vote for the nassssty Legate now or wait until some discussion's been had. For now though I need to go, so I'll be back in four hours or so with some feedback. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-06-2009, 05:37 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	One more thing about this subject of Kent's death. As I said I thought him somewhat suspicious in the end of yesterDay. But his last post quite left me totally baffled. What he did at the last minute (voted Eönwë) was of course a right thing to do as it was a reaction to my revealment-post and I had shown that a baddie was actually trying to kill someone. There was no need for you Legate to sacrifice a fellow wolf there - and looking at how you played it was something you dared. He got it and voted for Eönwë as he was the only other candidate to vote to save Eomer - who looked really innocent at that moment because of wolf-Legate's vote. (Which is not saying anything about Eönwë's guilt or innocence.) But was he just a very clever and able villager or was he a baddie who was cunning enough to show himself being a good one at the last minute? That was what I wondered a lot as I did (and do) think he could be cabable of it. Well, we know it now. So you took away a cabable player who was able to react fast and do the right thing. Like you did with Kath. Lower profile but cabable. That's what you guys go for. Hah, I can see you calling for this tactics Legate... And you were not after me last Night because you thought the ranger would save me and that a "no kill" last Night would basically prove my point. (Just hoping the ranger took a risk now - or that fex. Groin is the ranger and now comes up to do his duty) Why you didn't pick Nerwen as she's innocent and also fits the description of lower profile but also cabable still beats me - unless it was because you really wanted to play this masquerade to the fullest and wished to give Legate a chance to make a game for it. A good choice I must say. You play well as I've said already. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-06-2009, 06:23 PM	#7
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	So.......wow.... First, I can't believe how wrong I was about Eomer, I feel so foolish for pursuing him so strongly and then being so terribly wrong. Secondly, I trust Nogrod. That may seem odd considering that yesterDay I was unsure of him, and very sure of Legate. But I was also very sure of Eomer and was wrong, so....yeah. I'm gonna probably vote Legate. I think either Sally, Rune or Eonwe would be good choices for a dream toNight, since they seem to have gotten the most attention over the last few Days. I'm saying all this now because it will be another very busy Day for me, I seriously doubt I'll be able to make it back on tonight, and I'll only be able to jump on for about 15 minutes tomorrow (my morrow) to vote. Sorry about this. Day 4 I'll be on as much, if not more, as I was yesterDay. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin Last edited by wilwarin538; 05-07-2009 at 07:22 AM.

05-06-2009, 08:20 PM	#8
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	My thoughts: I think the village would be foolish not to trust Nogrod on this one. If he is not the seer and we kill off an innocent Legate then at least we will know that Nogrod is a wolf and can kill him the next day. If Nog is the seer and Legate is a wolf then killing him off is can only be good for the village. This means that after toDay we will know at least one wolf. We will then be able to analyze people's voting and playing with at least some concrete knowledge in hand. A final option would be if both Legate and Nogrod are wolfs and they are sacrificing Legate to keep Nog alive... but since no one was really suspecting Nog and since then the real seer would probably come forward... I'm thinking it's not this last option. ++Legate I should be around for a while tomorrow my time to add input. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!