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wilwarin538 · 05-06-2009, 06:23 PM

So.......wow....

First, I can't believe how wrong I was about Eomer, I feel so foolish for pursuing him so strongly and then being so terribly wrong.

Secondly, I trust Nogrod. That may seem odd considering that yesterDay I was unsure of him, and very sure of Legate. But I was also very sure of Eomer and was wrong, so....yeah. I'm gonna probably vote Legate.

I think either Sally, Rune or Eonwe would be good choices for a dream toNight, since they seem to have gotten the most attention over the last few Days.

I'm saying all this now because it will be another very busy Day for me, I seriously doubt I'll be able to make it back on tonight, and I'll only be able to jump on for about 15 minutes tomorrow (my morrow) to vote. Sorry about this. Day 4 I'll be on as much, if not more, as I was yesterDay.

Nienna · 05-06-2009, 08:20 PM

My thoughts:

I think the village would be foolish not to trust Nogrod on this one. If he is not the seer and we kill off an innocent Legate then at least we will know that Nogrod is a wolf and can kill him the next day. If Nog is the seer and Legate is a wolf then killing him off is can only be good for the village. This means that after toDay we will know at least one wolf. We will then be able to analyze people's voting and playing with at least some concrete knowledge in hand. A final option would be if both Legate and Nogrod are wolfs and they are sacrificing Legate to keep Nog alive... but since no one was really suspecting Nog and since then the real seer would probably come forward... I'm thinking it's not this last option.

++Legate

I should be around for a while tomorrow my time to add input.

Nerwen · 05-06-2009, 08:29 PM

Quick note: a lot of evil-looking posting happened after I was gone yesterDay... they can't all be wraiths, but I think especially Wilwa, Eönwë and Brinniel need looking at. Also possibly Shasta, just from the way Legate talks about him.

I do not have time to say much now, and in fact I'm mildly surprised to be still alive... but then I was surprised to find Lhuna alive yesterDay. Looks like the wolves are too afraid of the Ranger to pick anyone half-obvious. (Or else Lhuna's one of them.)

–Well, that's my theory. I want to hear others.

And let's not forget Sally... (Yes, half the village is looking evil!

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well this is....interesting. Veeeery interesting. The question is whether I should comment or not, at the risk of saying something I shouldn't. Does that make sense? No? Good, me neither.

Well from what I see there's one thing in this game that's for sure. The question is whether to vote for the nassssty Legate now or wait until some discussion's been had.

Why? Do you have some specific reason to think that Nogrod's making a false reveal, and that it isn't wolf-on-wolf?

Anyway–

++Legate of Amon Lanc.

I hope to be back later, but I can't promise anything– busy day ahead.

satansaloser2005 · 05-06-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Quick note: a lot of evil-looking posting happened after I was gone yesterDay... they can't all be wraiths, but I think especially Wilwa, Eönwë and Brinniel need looking at. Also possibly Shasta, just from the way Legate talks about him.

I do not have time to say much now, and in fact I'm mildly surprised to be still alive... but then I was surprised to find Lhuna alive yesterDay. Looks like the wolves are too afraid of the Ranger to pick anyone half-obvious. (Or else Lhuna's one of them.)

–Well, that's my theory. I want to hear others.

And let's not forget Sally... (Yes, half the village is looking evil!

)

Why? Do you have some specific reason to think that Nogrod's making a false reveal, and that it isn't wolf-on-wolf?

Anyway–

++Legate of Amon Lanc.

I hope to be back later, but I can't promise anything– busy day ahead.

I know it seems odd but I don't want to share all my thoughts on the subject. For now though, let's just say that I am almost positive it isn't wolf on wolf, and that I will (unless something completely random happens that I haven't foreseen) be voting for Legate. Nogrod's information is accurate, the end. I just don't like the way things are unfolding, etc. I know, it doesn't make much sense, but then again apparently I never do.

I'll put together a vote count from yesterDay when I get a chance. Until then!

satansaloser2005 · 05-06-2009, 08:57 PM

Sorry, that last post didn't quite come out right. I mean that as far as I know Noggie's information is accurate. I'm fallible like everyone else, doncha know.

I need a nap before I post any more or I'm gonna make even less sense than less sense than usual.

satansaloser2005 · 05-06-2009, 09:01 PM

Oh, and Noggie, what do you think of all the other players? Not what do you 'know', but what are your opinions? I'd like to hear them in some detail, if you don't mind terribly. Thanks much, dear.

ETA: Triple post. Oh, joy. Anyway, I'll get to work on that vote count before I (hopefully) head to supper.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 05-06-2009, 11:07 PM

May I be allowed to speak before Your Majesty, Werewolf, forty-fifth of that name?

Will we have a DAY where little is done save speculate on Nogrod and Legate, and afterwards voting for Legate? Will this not be an aid to those three others who wish to hide in the shadows? Will we waste a DAY given to us by the One in such manner?

I say nay to all these, respected members of the court of Werewolf. Therefore I propose that we use this DAY to analyse the words of Legate, and those who were somehow connected to him, or those he chose to ignore. Also, should we not be more fervent in looking among ourselves where these Wraiths would hide? We shall reconvene tomorrow less one foe, certainly, but also without our most powerful ally. (Unless the Ranger has risked not protecting our Seer, but I will not count on that.) I have witnessed the reigns of the noble ancestors of our esteemed Werewolf, and I have witnessed the fall of many an innocent after having a prophet revealed before them. Now the danger is greater for us, for our foes are more numerous. We must remain vigilant.

Your Highness, most esteemed members of his court, that is all.

Lhunardawen · 05-06-2009, 11:38 PM

I'm terribly sorry to have missed yesterDay. And I've missed a lot!

But straight on to the most significant development:

Thanks for that, Nogrod. I trusted in your innocence Day 1, and I'm glad my trust had not been in vain. At first I wasn't sure it was such a good idea, bringing yourself forward this early into the game - considering that you've only caught a fourth of the wraiths - but then we could use the inevitable exchanges generated by your reveal to help us determine who may be Legate's fellow wraiths.

That said, sally is not looking too innocent right now. In fact, she's very suspicious. Why would an innocent hold her thoughts in this situation? It would have been quite careless of you as a wraith to say out loud that you don't want to say something you shouldn't, but that could be panic-induced. It's probably easy to panic when one of your colleagues has been revealed for what he is.

Anyway, I'll re-read yesterDay's votes and what I think of them.

05-06-2009, 06:23 PM	#1
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	So.......wow.... First, I can't believe how wrong I was about Eomer, I feel so foolish for pursuing him so strongly and then being so terribly wrong. Secondly, I trust Nogrod. That may seem odd considering that yesterDay I was unsure of him, and very sure of Legate. But I was also very sure of Eomer and was wrong, so....yeah. I'm gonna probably vote Legate. I think either Sally, Rune or Eonwe would be good choices for a dream toNight, since they seem to have gotten the most attention over the last few Days. I'm saying all this now because it will be another very busy Day for me, I seriously doubt I'll be able to make it back on tonight, and I'll only be able to jump on for about 15 minutes tomorrow (my morrow) to vote. Sorry about this. Day 4 I'll be on as much, if not more, as I was yesterDay. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin Last edited by wilwarin538; 05-07-2009 at 07:22 AM.

05-06-2009, 08:20 PM	#2
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	My thoughts: I think the village would be foolish not to trust Nogrod on this one. If he is not the seer and we kill off an innocent Legate then at least we will know that Nogrod is a wolf and can kill him the next day. If Nog is the seer and Legate is a wolf then killing him off is can only be good for the village. This means that after toDay we will know at least one wolf. We will then be able to analyze people's voting and playing with at least some concrete knowledge in hand. A final option would be if both Legate and Nogrod are wolfs and they are sacrificing Legate to keep Nog alive... but since no one was really suspecting Nog and since then the real seer would probably come forward... I'm thinking it's not this last option. ++Legate I should be around for a while tomorrow my time to add input. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

05-06-2009, 08:57 PM	#5
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Sorry, that last post didn't quite come out right. I mean that as far as I know Noggie's information is accurate. I'm fallible like everyone else, doncha know. I need a nap before I post any more or I'm gonna make even less sense than less sense than usual. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-06-2009, 09:01 PM	#6
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Oh, and Noggie, what do you think of all the other players? Not what do you 'know', but what are your opinions? I'd like to hear them in some detail, if you don't mind terribly. Thanks much, dear. ETA: Triple post. Oh, joy. Anyway, I'll get to work on that vote count before I (hopefully) head to supper. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-06-2009, 11:07 PM	#7
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	May I be allowed to speak before Your Majesty, Werewolf, forty-fifth of that name? Will we have a DAY where little is done save speculate on Nogrod and Legate, and afterwards voting for Legate? Will this not be an aid to those three others who wish to hide in the shadows? Will we waste a DAY given to us by the One in such manner? I say nay to all these, respected members of the court of Werewolf. Therefore I propose that we use this DAY to analyse the words of Legate, and those who were somehow connected to him, or those he chose to ignore. Also, should we not be more fervent in looking among ourselves where these Wraiths would hide? We shall reconvene tomorrow less one foe, certainly, but also without our most powerful ally. (Unless the Ranger has risked not protecting our Seer, but I will not count on that.) I have witnessed the reigns of the noble ancestors of our esteemed Werewolf, and I have witnessed the fall of many an innocent after having a prophet revealed before them. Now the danger is greater for us, for our foes are more numerous. We must remain vigilant. Your Highness, most esteemed members of his court, that is all. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good... Last edited by Nilpaurion Felagund; 05-07-2009 at 05:37 AM. Reason: member -> members (sheesh)

05-06-2009, 11:38 PM	#8
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	I'm terribly sorry to have missed yesterDay. And I've missed a lot! But straight on to the most significant development: Thanks for that, Nogrod. I trusted in your innocence Day 1, and I'm glad my trust had not been in vain. At first I wasn't sure it was such a good idea, bringing yourself forward this early into the game - considering that you've only caught a fourth of the wraiths - but then we could use the inevitable exchanges generated by your reveal to help us determine who may be Legate's fellow wraiths. That said, sally is not looking too innocent right now. In fact, she's very suspicious. Why would an innocent hold her thoughts in this situation? It would have been quite careless of you as a wraith to say out loud that you don't want to say something you shouldn't, but that could be panic-induced. It's probably easy to panic when one of your colleagues has been revealed for what he is. Anyway, I'll re-read yesterDay's votes and what I think of them.