WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[satansaloser2005]

Back for the rest of the Day. Can I get a vote count please? *pulls out cute!face* I'll go catch up and see what I can find. Back soon!

[Morsul the Dark]

BORO Oh I missed that paragraph...
Hmm... yes wolves did defend my vote... and it was for an innocent... as for the vote for myself... well it was either that or shoddy votes against some one else which would also look bad...

as Mac would say fair points I get it...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

insert insanely long "analysis" of Nerwen here

I'd just like to take a moment to point out the flaw in not only Morsul's logic but....well, in general. (Which isn't to say you're not a nice person, dear, of course.) He'd gotten on me before for too often saying I couldn't be here. Notice how Nerwen does much the same (which I won't be covering at this time) and he just let her pass with it. Also, his anaylsis is just quoting her posts (and not even!) and summing them up for us. No opinion of his own, no nothing. Meta banter, telling us of real life, and then an analysis that is no sort of an analysis at all, which despite finding me guilty for doing something he has passed Nerwen over for. This=wolvery to me. Either that or just plain awful logic.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I have no idea whether what Nog's saying here is right– this was all before my time– but that would change everything.

Anyone know?

So I hate that the Downs won't let you quote a quote within a quote (at least the easy way) but this is the part about Lottie's role. This has been discussed a lot toDay and I think it has a fair point. She could have taken on Pitch's role (more or less) after he died. However, I don't think this is likely as if that was the case the hunter (or at least a good hunter) would have come out by now to say "Hey, my list is still ordered to be the same length. Something ain't right, people!" Certainly this would have been my course of action and I believe any other hunter would do the same so I don't think that would be the case. However, to be fair, she could still be evil; perhaps after killing Pitch she became a cobbler? Bah, that doesn't make any sense. I'd care to leave Lottie alone for a bit longer; not too long necessarily, but there's just too many opinions on her and too much we don't know to lynch her at this point in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Was that a joke that I missed? Legate's birthday is in July.Anyway back to Lottie birthday dreamer issue - I think it would actually be quite likely Legate used the original role. And as for people changing behaviour towards Lottie after the Nigth she dreamt, that could mean nothing, because it could mean they didn't get to PM or even know her role yet then...

..am I really believeing in this guilty birthday dreamer thingy? Oh my. I'll be off for a while and think about it and other stuff, like for example who are our remaining wolves... (speaking of which Nogrod is playing quite a game with all this birthday dreamer stuff if he's a wolf...)

See my commentary above. It could be possible Legate lifted the role yet left it up to Lottie to decide which side she was on (Mith had the same option in my game, where once she had completed her task she could decide her permanent alignment) or he could have made something completely different.


All in all I think this discussion of Lottie is beneficial yet also wasted; the only way to find out what she is or is not is to lynch her, and frankly I'd like to lynch a better candidate toDay since I don't have the time at this stage in the Day to look at everything regarding her in-depth. I'm not saying that I trust her completely nor that I think she is evil, but I'm torn enough on the subject of her honesty and allegiance that I don't think it's a good idea to kill her toDay.

[satansaloser2005]

Also, I concur that Bes has looked exceedingly wolfish toDay and in general concerning Lottie. (Why, Lottie, you just may be the talk of the village for Days to come. How does that make you feel?)



Surprisingly I've not x'd with my last post but I suspect I will with this one so I'll get back to reading. Hopefully the silence means I'll get that vote count I asked Santa for.

[Morsul the Dark]

Content my Dear Sally content... which for the record today at this point is far better... nerwen has some posts about being busy but the posts she has seem to have more input and opinion...

The only reason I voted you today is I'm not a fan of either of the top candidates and you are my next choice(For the record your wolfdom is going down today) Also I'd like to point out my analysis of Nerwen is a bit biased because she shares a few votes and ideas with me... Not exactly a good reason but...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Content my Dear Sally content... which for the record today at this point is far better... nerwen has some posts about being busy but the posts she has seem to have more input and opinion...

The only reason I voted you today is I'm not a fan of either of the top candidates and you are my next choice(For the record your wolfdom is going down today) Also I'd like to point out my analysis of Nerwen is a bit biased because she shares a few votes and ideas with me... Not exactly a good reason but...

Which for the record toDay I've not even been on because my internet's shot. And I'm glad you realize that agreeing with someone does not ensure their innocence. Quite the opposite in fact....


Blah. I'm trying to decide who to vote. Bes looks so bloody awful too. *is torn*

[Morsul the Dark]

Sally True You haven't posted much but what you have feels fuller to me than your earlier game posts...

[Thinlómien]

Hey people I just realised that if Lottie's a wolf we actually have three wolves around... not a nice idea.

This might be crazy, but I actually feel like lynching Lottie to sure. Like somebody said, this is the Day to try it out, if there is one.

I could also go for Sally or Brinn, preferably the latter. Pardon my self-centered theories again, but if Lottie was a known-innocent pretending wolf, it would be easy and good-looking for Brinnwolf to side with her and it would be convenient for them to join forces against an innocent (me) to get her lynched.

But then again, I will vote anyone to save myself, as yesterDay...

PS. Hey - pardon self-centered theories again - but considering how Lottie and Brinn joined forces to get me lynched and how Bes voted me on the last minute out of nowhere (combined with all the Lottie-Bes stuff Nogrod just presented), I wouldn't be surprised if our remaining wolves were Lottie+Bes+Brinn. Not sure what they'd achieve by getting me lynched, though, but I guess I'm just saying that with one "known innocent" and one newbie, they can quite effectively pull it off with co-operating openly....


edit: xed with several

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

All in all I think this discussion of Lottie is beneficial yet also wasted; the only way to find out what she is or is not is to lynch her, and frankly I'd like to lynch a better candidate toDay since I don't have the time at this stage in the Day to look at everything regarding her in-depth. I'm not saying that I trust her completely nor that I think she is evil, but I'm torn enough on the subject of her honesty and allegiance that I don't think it's a good idea to kill her toDay.

I disagree, it's something that's worth the risk. If we're wrong, we lose an innocent, and not to sound heartless but that isn't as damaging as going for another candidate and risk lynching/dragging out one of the gifteds. If we're wrong about Lottie, we maintain our 2 gifteds and overall the situation is still pretty good.

Plus, since there has been lots of talk about it, if Lottie is an innocent the wolves aren't going to do us a favor in kill her. So, essentially you will be stuck with the same decision you're faced with today. Maybe it's only because I've had more time to brood over this than you, but I do not want to be in the same situation tomorrow, especially if we don't get a wolf. Because then we would be pretty much forced to lynch Lottie, and if we are wrong, that puts us in a dire much catch wolf situation.

If Lottie is a wolf, there is a huge pay-off. We've figured out the wolves plan and this answers questions about Bes, as well as whether this suspecting Lommy business was wolv-foolery or not.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I disagree, it's something that's worth the risk. If we're wrong, we lose an innocent, and not to sound heartless but that isn't as damaging as going for another candidate and risk lynching/dragging out one of the gifteds. If we're wrong about Lottie, we maintain our 2 gifteds and overall the situation is still pretty good.

Plus, since there has been lots of talk about it, if Lottie is an innocent the wolves aren't going to do us a favor in kill her. So, essentially you will be stuck with the same decision you're faced with today. Maybe it's only because I've had more time to brood over this than you, but I do not want to be in the same situation tomorrow, especially if we don't get a wolf. Because then we would be pretty much forced to lynch Lottie, and if we are wrong, that puts us in a dire much catch wolf situation.

If Lottie is a wolf, there is a huge pay-off. We've figured out the wolves plan and this answers questions about Bes, as well as whether this suspecting Lommy business was wolv-foolery or not.

You do have a point. I'm just not comfortable with it is all.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Sally

if people did want to let Lommie go I'd give my reluctant approval

I'm all for that option!

Now I'm thinking... if there are three wolves now, there's seven innocents. But if we lynch an innocent toDay and one dies next Night, it's a 5-3 situation and that is rather scary... so I'm thinking we really probably might have to lynch Lottie toDay just to make sure there are not three wolves, because if there are, the game is pretty lost already tomorrow because there's such a high amount of wolves and if they team up and get an innocent lynched, they win...


edit: xed with two shastas and one nog

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I'm all for that option!

Heh. I bet you are.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I disagree, it's something that's worth the risk. If we're wrong, we lose an innocent, and not to sound heartless but that isn't as damaging as going for another candidate and risk lynching/dragging out one of the gifteds. If we're wrong about Lottie, we maintain our 2 gifteds and overall the situation is still pretty good.

Plus, since there has been lots of talk about it, if Lottie is an innocent the wolves aren't going to do us a favor in kill her. So, essentially you will be stuck with the same decision you're faced with today. Maybe it's only because I've had more time to brood over this than you, but I do not want to be in the same situation tomorrow, especially if we don't get a wolf. Because then we would be pretty much forced to lynch Lottie, and if we are wrong, that puts us in a dire much catch wolf situation.

If Lottie is a wolf, there is a huge pay-off. We've figured out the wolves plan and this answers questions about Bes, as well as whether this suspecting Lommy business was wolv-foolery or not.

Quite a change from yesterDay, isn't it, Boro?