WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

First of all, how did this thought of us knowing Sally had dreamt a wolf come from? At least to me it was not obvious and I didn't find it even now looking back the thread.

Sally said in her first post as an answer to alona's question "any luck dreaming of a wolf?" the following (boldings mine): To me and my understanding of English-language that seems like far from clear she had a wolf. Actually it looks like the contrary - but she was clearly wishing to play games with the wolves (like saying she had two wolves the Day before etc.). So at least I took that as something I couldn't and shouldn't rely on.

Okay, so this might get me in trouble, but I'm going to say it anyway for clarity's sake especially now that Sally's been killed. Since she and I were on for most of yesterDay, we ended up talking about the game while simultaneously posting on the thread. The main point of our conversation was covered and posted on the thread when Sally basically asked if it was all right if I sacrificed myself as a lynch so the Ranger wouldn't get lynched. Now, at the time, I was okay with her setting me up as the Ranger as a hopeful hint to the wolves to go after me instead of trying to lynch or Night kill the real Ranger.

Because I'd been privy to this information, my posts yesterDay were written based on the knowledge that Sally had in fact dreamed a wolf. I think everyone assumed Sally had dreamed a wolf at that point - and she certainly gave that impression the way she was posting and how she was talking.

Nog, breaking a post down word by word might be helpful to catch a slip by a wolf, but in Sally's case, I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Some of what she said could have misdirects, and I think that's what the whole "might" business was.

And to use some logic you used in making a case against me earlier, it feels like your post could go one of two ways: an innocent vehemently defending himself in order to preserve the village numbers or a wolf throwing a fellow pack mate under the bus. I'm leaning towards the first, but am not disregarding the second just yet.

Your reasoning does seem sound, but knowing what I know after talking and posting with Sally after all of most yesterDay, there's just something that doesn't sit completely right with me.

I've got to leave for work now, but I'll be back roughly an hour and a half before DL or so, depending on traffic on the way home.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by alonariel

Since she and I were on for most of yesterDay, we ended up talking about the game while simultaneously posting on the thread.

Well... what to say?

One is not supposed to chat about the game with other players while the game is going on. Really. The game is played in the game thread, not in msn, Twitter, FB, e-mail or so. Every thought you have you either keep with yourself or share it with others publicly. That's the name of the game.

There have been a few major rows on the issue in the past - resulting in some people signing off from WW for good. So please alona, play with the rules (there was this thing with Lari as well). Hold your horses my friend!

Originally Posted by alona

Nog, breaking a post down word by word might be helpful to catch a slip by a wolf, but in Sally's case, I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Some of what she said could have misdirects, and I think that's what the whole "might" business was.

Wasn't that exactly what I said - that I thought she was "playing games" with the wolves and thus decided not to take this or that she said at the face-value?



Inzil. Are you becoming this desperate?

Originally Posted by Inzil

Well, Wilwa made this comment:

And this was Sally's response.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Right. But those posts you quote are actually cross-posts with my post where I ask if Sally is hinting that Izzy is indeed a wolf and she knows it! So that discussion took place right at the time I was about to vote - so you can't quite say I "should have known it" before that exchange of thoughts occured, ten minutes before my vote!

So what are you aiming at Inzil? Why do you try twist everything to get me lynched? I know the wolves would love to lynch an innocent toDay though and looking at how the Day began I was clearly their best bet to victory... but sorry, I'll challenge you on that.

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

One is not supposed to chat about the game with other players while the game is going on. Really. The game is played in the game thread, not in msn, Twitter, FB, e-mail or so. Every thought you have you either keep with yourself or share it with others publicly. That's the name of the game.

There have been a few major rows on the issue in the past - resulting in some people signing off from WW for good. So please alona, play with the rules (there was this thing with Lari as well). Hold your horses my friend!

Eeek I know...seriously, I'm considering just not signing on MSN while I'm in a WW game from now on.


Oh dear, why did so much have to happen while I was at work?? Arg. Okay, so impressions from the post:

Inzil and Nog are at each other's throats. It's either wolf-on-wolf setting up for one of them to look good at the end of toDay. Or ordo-on-ordo which blows because of our numbers and already stated reasons about what happens if we lynch an ordo and the Ranger doesn't protect the right person toNight.

Shasta's few posts today make me very uneasy. I didn't see Wilwa's comments as back pedaling at all, merely a post to get the conversation going or, like Nog suggested, a possible trap for wolves. Yes, his post about Sally's misdirect could be valid, but with just a few posts he has jumped to the top of my suspect list.

And then there's Nog! Who defended himself vehemently. The way his posts went made me think he was a very ticked off ordo - or an extremely clever wolf. Like I said before I left for work, I am leaning towards the first, though after all the posts toDay, the second isn't off the table yet.

Ugh, I think I'll wait to see if anyone else posts. DL isn't that a bad time for me and with how dire the situation is, I'll hold off for as long as I can til I vote.


Voting thus far:

Nog -> Shasta
Wilwa -> Inzil

[Lariren Shadow]

So is no one else here?

As for voting, I'm more inclinded to go with the whole not voting for any girls because Alona and Wilwa are not at all suspcious to me.

Nog seems to have talked himself into a corner, and come out with Shasta as guilty and constantly stated that he is innocent. I'm not sure how to feel about this. He seems to be saying he's innocent way too much in those.

And then Shasta and Inzil both have votes. While Shasta looked suspicious yesterDay he seems much better to me toDay. And Inzil...well PM buddy.

[Gwathagor]

Man, you people had better start voting.

[Lariren Shadow]

And we're really close to the deadline and still to vote: me, Alona, Shasta, and Inzil. Great.

[alonariel]

It's getting close so here we go. No girls because of the possibility the Ranger is a she. Though my newfound suspicion of Shasta is unsettling, I've got more of a feel on Nog at this point.

So, here goes:

++Nog

[Lariren Shadow]

Ok, I'm going with the no girls.

And I'm now not really sure about Shasta, he's beginning to look less guilty to me, and I don't really want to vote Inzil. Which leaves me with voting Nog. His talking toDay seemed rather to proclaim he was innocent and talk in circles. It doesn't feel right.

++Nog

[Gwathagor]

The man from the bank had left Johnny on the porch of his house with a slip of paper in his hand. Johnny had tried to argue with the man, he'd told him that he couldn't pay the mortgage just yet since he'd been laid off down at the factory. He was looking for work, but he needed more time. He just needed more time. What difference was another week or two? The bank had had Johnny's business for years, didn't that mean anything? He needed the house, he was going to get married. Johnny always paid off his debts in the end, he was good for the money. He just needed more time. But, if the bank man heard any of this, he showed no sign of it, and Johnny found himself staring blankly at a notice of eviction. There was nothing he could do. Was there?

Johnny walked slowly back inside, dropping the slip of paper on the porch. Slowly, quietly, almost half-heartedly, he walked through the kitchen and down into the basement. He stood there for a moment, silent and motionless, then took down a shotgun from a shelf and clamped it tight into the vise. Then he picked up a hacksaw. He had to hurry. The bank closed soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmT-j...eature=related

Later that evening, a state police officer pulled Johnny as he was driving recklessly down the county roads, past the swamps and the refinery fires, making good time away from the city. Not only was he drunk, but he was waving a sawed-off shotgun in one hand and clamoring about how he had only done what he had to, about how the bank and the auto factory had put the gun in his hands. He was crying a little and hardly resisted when the lawman slapped the cuffs on him and took him downtown. Two weeks later, he had been sentenced to 99 years in prison for the killing of a bank clerk. That was the last anyone heard of Johnny 99.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2aQogGfYtY

***

Night 5 has begun.

The Living
City Dude - Inziladun
Gypsy Biker - Shasta
Crazy Janey - Alonariel
Jersey Girl - Wilwarin
Wendy - Lariren

The Dead
Jimmy the Saint - Morsul - The Highwayman (Hunter)
Wild Billy - Glirdan - Innocent
Rosalita - Loslote - Innocent
Mary - Rikae - Innocent
Bad Scooter - Isabellkya - The Betrayer (Wolf)
Boardwalk Sandy - Sally - The Dreamer (Seer)
Johnny 99 - Nogrod - Innocent

[Inziladun]

I'm here.

Nog was strange toDay. I still don't understand why he put all that effort into going after me, only to abandon it at the last minute. And it was awfully odd how he didn't find much to note about me until I pushed him. I think we have a very likely wolf in one of them, but not both.

x/d with alona and Lari

[Inziladun]

Let's hope for the best.


++Nog