Mandos Thread: DEAD ONLY! - WW LXXXVI

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Nog, if you're actually the seer, your dream options are basically: me. We know Manwe isn't a wolf. We know Shasta and Agan's roles. You obviously know your own role. And you can't dream of the living. So that pretty much covers your theoretical seerly activities.

I need to remind you, we also know that Mänwe is an ordinary innocent. I dreamt that last Night and told about it. That is an exact role and it's fool-proof. I understand it that you're probably not willing to trust me yet. But I'll do my best to make you look at my role again. Hopefully when enough people see that what I say of their role is true you start to reconsider.

I promise 100% accuracy on my dreams. I will not err with them like a cobbler eventually would.

And yes, you're next.

Oops... unless the lynched one is more interesting... Oh, I have to get the hang of this. I think I can only dream during the Nights back there so the better focus to my dreams would be the lynched as we already know you're not a wolf.

Let's see if there will arise an occasion where that would call for turning that priority the otherway around.

According to the Live Thread, they want to know Nog's role for certain (or as certain as it can get). I can understand that rationale. It makes the most sense right now to vote to learn Nog's alignment since we already know basically everyone else's (I'm an ordo). When Glorfy comes to visit, xe'll then have that piece of information to go back with.

I suggested we voted for me yesterDay in here to find out my alignment - and actually voted myself. But Shasta turned his mind and retracted his vote from me into Mänwe and it was him we got (=not a wolf - while I already had the exact info of him being an ordo as well). He could have taken that info with him to the living thread but he decided not to. What a waste.

You should ask him when he comes back what on earth he was thinking... I mean if there was a chance he could be a cobbler as well while being a lover, then I'd bet my money on that.

As far as who should get the double vote, I lean toward giving it to one of our Lovers, just because we know their allegiance, so even if they go astray, we know it isn't because they're trying to mess with us. Shasta died too soon for us to really see him in action, but Agan has shown herself to be very rational, careful, and thoughtful. I submit that we should give her the double vote again.

I do agree with your premises... and with the conclusions as well.

I'm all for Agan getting the extra-vote.

++ Agan

for the extra-vote.


Sorry about being thus inactive toDay but there is a revolution unraveling in front of one's eyes where 80 million people turn the wheel of history... No offence to the most remarkable game we have on our hands, but that revolution is a tad more intreresting thing as it is changing this world as we know it in a big way (if all the Arab dictatorial regimes tumble down it is bigger than the collapsing of Communism 20 years ago), but I'll be back a bit later with hopefully some general ideas about the situation.


EDIT: Corrected a major fumble in logic: I think I only get to dream during the Nights and thus the lynchees are the obvios choices...

[Nogrod]

I just skimmed through the game thread.

I had some suspicions about Mith already earlier and now would probably vote for her if I was there (I'd most probably dream of her were I still alive).

I am a bit torn with Boro. I see your point Fea about his inactivity, but then again he has been quite inactive in the last few games... on first Days. He clearly has learned the lesson I understand only on a theoretical level: be quiet on first Days and you live, stand out and get killed. But there is something in him I don't feel is sincere; like he'd be purposefully picking targets.

There's not too many I tend to trust right now, but maybe Nerwen.



On another issue.

I'm quite at loss with how everyone seems to think it is self-evident that because I didn't answer Agan's "I'm Lúthien" it means I didn't know she is Beren and thus am a cobbler.

I did say earlier that she is Beren and never changed that. I just didn't pay attention to that trick by Agan, I somehow just missed it.

And had I been a cobbler, why on earth to say she is Beren risking it going wrong?

Actually, as a cobbler I should have probably quessed she was Lúthien - but I went to say comfortably that she is Beren (of course as I knew it).


And as Greenie speculated in the thread, I'm not that good an actor to pull out that frustration from a hat - which as a cobbler I wouldn't have felt in the first place.


Okay, I'm off to bed now. See you tomorrow - with new people in... sadly two too much.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

++AGANZIR

for extra votes.

Because I keep finding myself zoning out about my dead responsibilities (I have a cold settling into my lungs and I get exhausted and cranky and occasionally illogical when I'm sick). So I want to get this vote in before Day ends. Not like it matters a ton if I vote now or if I vote at DL, but at least this way I can eat my chicken noodle soup and drink my tea and have a Buffy marathon without feeling negligent.

Do good, Agan!