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Andsigil · 02-17-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Let's test my Hebrew again.

Well, I'm stumped.

I think Hebrew only has about 7 million speakers worldwide. Not sure how many are Downers.

Mithalwen · 02-18-2014, 07:41 AM

I am not a Hebrew speaker but I did do sunday school and confirmation class back in the day and was also trained not quite so long ago in various techniques for decoding unknown languages in Linguistics class. So on the basis that adonai means Lord or master, sheva could be a variant of "shiva" the seven day mourning period in Jewish practice, and that several words are repeated I speculatively looked up a few more words such as hashachor meaning black and guess it is the ring verse. Malachi the name means angel or messenger but here I think it is used for Elf. So "Three for the Elven kings under the sky, seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone, nine for mortal men doomed to die, one for the dark lord on his dark throne in the land of (Mordor redacted) where the shadows lie."

Galadriel55 · 02-21-2014, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I am not a Hebrew speaker but I did do sunday school and confirmation class back in the day and was also trained not quite so long ago in various techniques for decoding unknown languages in Linguistics class. So on the basis that adonai means Lord or master, sheva could be a variant of "shiva" the seven day mourning period in Jewish practice, and that several words are repeated I speculatively looked up a few more words such as hashachor meaning black and guess it is the ring verse. Malachi the name means angel or messenger but here I think it is used for Elf. So "Three for the Elven kings under the sky, seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone, nine for mortal men doomed to die, one for the dark lord on his dark throne in the land of (Mordor redacted) where the shadows lie."

That's the right quote. Shiva comes from the word sheva - seven. Malachei means "Kings of", if my grammar and conjugations are not totally off, but it is similar to the word for "angel". They have different spellings in Hebrew. I thought "bishvil"=for would give it away, but turns out it was other things.

On to you now!

Mithalwen · 02-24-2014, 03:47 PM

Only French this time..
Emballez vous Maître Sac!

Pervinca Took · 02-24-2014, 03:55 PM

That sounds like "Pack yourself up, Master Bag!"

Mithalwen · 02-24-2014, 03:59 PM

It is. 8 minutes.. a new low..

Pervinca Took · 02-24-2014, 04:08 PM

Not a low at all ... anything hobbit-orientated is generally well-known to me, and I happen to speak French. And you have taught me the verb "emballer." It's all good.

I also have a copy of a French translation of LOTR, although I didn't consult it.

02-18-2014, 07:41 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I am not a Hebrew speaker but I did do sunday school and confirmation class back in the day and was also trained not quite so long ago in various techniques for decoding unknown languages in Linguistics class. So on the basis that adonai means Lord or master, sheva could be a variant of "shiva" the seven day mourning period in Jewish practice, and that several words are repeated I speculatively looked up a few more words such as hashachor meaning black and guess it is the ring verse. Malachi the name means angel or messenger but here I think it is used for Elf. So "Three for the Elven kings under the sky, seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone, nine for mortal men doomed to die, one for the dark lord on his dark throne in the land of (Mordor redacted) where the shadows lie." __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-24-2014, 03:47 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Only French this time.. Emballez vous Maître Sac! __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-24-2014, 03:55 PM	#5
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	That sounds like "Pack yourself up, Master Bag!" __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

02-24-2014, 03:59 PM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	It is. 8 minutes.. a new low.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-24-2014, 04:08 PM	#7
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not a low at all ... anything hobbit-orientated is generally well-known to me, and I happen to speak French. And you have taught me the verb "emballer." It's all good. I also have a copy of a French translation of LOTR, although I didn't consult it. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."