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Old 12-13-2014, 02:38 AM   #1
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On the number of wolves - three seems a rather large number for a village of eleven. Two makes more sense to me, but it does seem a bit underpowered. Thinking about it, it seems like the fix would be to have some sort of evil-aligned role that's not a wolf, such as a Cobbler - however, as far as we know there's no Cobbler in this game.

I had a thought just now as I was typing this up - what if the lovers are Ranger/Cobbler? Story-wise it doesn't appear to make the most sense, but I'll be the first to admit I don't know the story all that well. Is Nimrodel a character that's at all likely to be Cobbler-esque? I throw out the speculation because my shining star is being so happily vague about roles this game, and having just two wolves on the evil side seems a bit weak.
So far, the facts we know about the lovers are: Amroth is also a ranger and the nature of the relationship has been accentuated to arouse suspicion surrounding their roles.

I doubt that Amroth would also be a cobbler, because 3 roles seems far too many for one person. If they were to be lynched, it would take a lot of interest out of the game in one hit. However, the text about Nimrodel seems most intriguing. I am led to believe that Nimrodel has more than one objective, similar to Amroth's dual objective. 2 wolves is too few, but 3 is too many. A cobbler would fill this mid-space quite well, and could be Nimrodel's other role.
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:23 AM   #2
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Well, the old stories hold Nimrodel to be of the Nandor, who stalked these woods long before the arrival of the Noldor and Sindar. She believes us to be invaders; that we are throwing off the natural order and that we have no place here. I am not sure if she has werewolf blood in her, but I would not think she has our best interests at heart.

Alas, though, she has captured the heart of our prince Amroth, and I fear for those he is charged with protecting.

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Old 12-13-2014, 03:55 AM   #3
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Well, the old stories hold Nimrodel to be of the Nandor, who stalked these woods long before the arrival of the Noldor and Sindar. She believes us to be invaders; that we are throwing off the natural order and that we have no place here. I am not sure if she has werewolf blood in her, but I would not think she has our best interests at heart.

Alas, though, she has captured the heart of our prince Amroth, and I fear for those he is charged with protecting.

EDIT: Hang on, that's us, isn't it. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-
Even though he will likely be useless in our survival, if he gets lynched, that will still be annoying because we would have lost the only person (probably) with the ability to protect us from the wolves' attacks at night.

This discussion of the lovers is merely 1st page talk. It will accomplish nothing, as we will not be able to gather information, except by confession, about their goals.

Soon, the remaining elves shall speak, and from that, we must make a decision of who to lynch.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:25 AM   #4
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Votes:

Kitanna -> TJ (1)
Lottie -> Boro (1)

That's a really small number for so close to deadline. That usually means that wolves will be able to influence the vote so they both survive Day 1, especially with how little discussion has taken place toDay.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:37 AM   #5
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I'm in the same boat as Shasta when it comes to sleep schedules, but when there's not much to go on I'd rather vote someone who's talking. In my experience it's the innocents who tend to not show up, but wolves and gifted have that little extra bit of information that usually has them playing with more skin in the game.

So I'm going with

++ Aganzir

Her whole crazy drunkard act seemed artificial and overcalculated to me.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:51 AM   #6
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In my experience it's the innocents who tend to not show up, but wolves and gifted have that little extra bit of information that usually has them playing with more skin in the game.
Oy! "I voted for her because she's speaking" is a reason I'm never happy with (no matter who gets the vote), but here McC basically says "Agan could be a gifted so I'm voting for her".
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:00 AM   #7
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McC basically says "Agan could be a gifted so I'm voting for her".
McCaber was implying that those who are talking are more likely to be wolves or gifted, which seems very logical. Your neglect to mention that he suspects you of being a wolf leads me to a conclusion that not more than one of you could be a wolf.

Reading back over today, Boro seems to be following the character guideline of Nimrodel, and is likely to be a lover, not a threat.

I'm afraid I have to agree with Shasta that we could lynch someone who isn't talking. I have my suspicions of all of you so far, but it is likely that someone who is a wolf hasn't posted yet. Of course, Shasta could be voting for Sally to get an easy kill, as she has done literally nothing so far.

However, it doesn't feel right to off someone who has done nothing to contribute, nor detract. Aganzir seems like a bit of a wildcard, like she could be anyone.

++Aganzir

I make this decision not out of spite for Aganzir. I'm obviously interested in my own survival, and it would be better insurance for myself to vote for someone who already has a vote on their head. Boro has not done enough to arouse any suspicion, and Sally has not said a word. Voting for those two seems unfair, as does Aganzir, but to ensure that they actually get to take part, I must regretfully put my vote towards the other suspected elf.

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Old 12-13-2014, 04:54 AM   #8
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On the contrary to McCaber, I don't believe Aganzir's drunkenness to be entirely false, however, it is true that wolves and gifted always want something to say.

I await further convincing to make my decision.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:22 AM   #9
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Well, the old stories hold Nimrodel to be of the Nandor, who stalked these woods long before the arrival of the Noldor and Sindar. She believes us to be invaders; that we are throwing off the natural order and that we have no place here. I am not sure if she has werewolf blood in her, but I would not think she has our best interests at heart.

Alas, though, she has captured the heart of our prince Amroth, and I fear for those he is charged with protecting.

EDIT: Hang on, that's us, isn't it. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-
Hmm. That does sound relatively cobbler-ish, doesn't it? We might be dealing with a duo of opposed alignments (which we've seen before, although I don't remember precisely what enabled them to win as Lovers rather than just innocent or wolf - I might go back and see if I can find where that occurred.)

In any case, I'm about to drop off to sleep, so I need to vote. Going to look back and see if there's anything at all to go on - but I'll probably end up voting for someone who hasn't shown up yet (it can't have been too difficult to give everyone a poke that the game was starting, after all.)
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