Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Hmmm....again with the good points Eomer.
In fact Nerwen didn't vote at all on Day 1. I did wonder why....

The plot thickens! I hadn't thought of that.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Nerwen has already voted for Loslote. We could test the theory by lynching someone else today? Or is that stupid?

[Firefoot]

I was already inclined to vote for Lottie (in the absence of a lover scheme anyway) and this sort of seals the deal. I was already inclined to trust Nerwen, and the two people she named topped my suspect list anyway.

Don't have time for more now, sorry! And I will be voting earlier toDay, have plans for later.

[Lalaith]

I was already inclined to vote for Lottie (in the absence of a lover scheme anyway) and this sort of seals the deal.

(Firefoot)
Well yes, my feelings too...but I did want to try to hold off until Lottie herself turned up to explain herself.

We could test the theory by lynching someone else today? Or is that stupid?

(Eomer)
How could we test it when we don't know the roles after death? Or am I now missing something and being stupid?

Seriously, she very rarely votes on Day 1. It's a thing.

(Sally)
I didn't know that. But if Nerwen's vote is some kind of kiss of death, then that might explain a lot.

[Boromir88]

I'm on my lunch and still planning to be back an hour or so before the DL, but if not:

++Lottie

I'm going to trust Nerwen's revealed info. I can't think of a reason a wolf would want to make this info up at this time.

[Kath]

Just to make sure it is there:

++Lottie

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Okay, I have to go and it's possible I won't be able to get back online later, so I guess I can't sit on this any longer. I said I had a particular reason for wanting to hear everyone's opinion's of everyone else, and here it is:

I received a pm telling me that the Seer had dreamed two wolves, Macalaure and Lottie.

It was *not* explained to me why I was being sent this interesting communication, nor can I find anything about it in the rules. Maybe this is a once-off thing (on the Seer's death?), or maybe a different person has been sent dreams each Night. Maybe the Dead are involved, or the mystery role. I honestly have no idea.

I realise I have no way of backing any of this up, and am asking you all to take my word for it, but I do think there's decent circumstantial evidence against both Lottie and Mac.

Well, that's just not fair.

Anyway, in the interest of killing the other pack - who I hate with every bone in my furry little body - here's who I wanted to kill toMorrow Night, and why:

Originally Posted by Firefoot

It seems likely to me that Rikae and phantom were killed by one pack and Rune and Legate by the other, in that the pairs can be categorized similarly - Rikae and phantom both being quite vocal and widely unsuspected, while Rune and Legate both seem to play a hazier role (Legate was generally not considered suspicious, I believe?). Might be worth taking a look at who Legate and Rikae suspected yesterDay - I would be pretty nervous at this point if I was a wolf and the seer was still running around, so that's who I would think they were going for.

Rikae's strongest suspicion seemed to be Lottie. She voted for Greenie. Day 1 she voted for Lommy and discussed continuing suspicion of her early in Day 2, but by the end of Day 2 Lommy no longer seemed under consideration for votes. She seemed to find Nog, Form, Agan, Mac, and I (late in the Day, changing her mind) probably innocent.

Firefoot is way, way too spot on here. Of course she knows who the other pack killed at Night - she was there. My pack killed Rune and Legate (I would like to take the credit for figuring out that Legate was likely the Seer, thank you, I was pretty pleased with that. Can't believe he got the info out anyway) and Mac's and, presumably, Firefoot's pack killed tp and Rikae. (I didn't know which of Rikae and Mac they had killed until Firefoot confirmed for me that Mac was one of her pack, by the way. Thanks for that.)

Also, notice how Firefoot plays down how much Rikae and Legate both suspected her? I remember last Night thinking that Legate would probably dream either her or me last Night, and Rikae definitely suspected her, so she wasn't nearly as well trusted as she is trying to pretend here, and she is just as implicated in the case that a wolf pack Night killed one of them as I was, even though she tried to pretend otherwise.

My pack, kill her. Village, kill her. She is a wolf, and a rival of mine, and I will not have competition for my own dearly beloved packmates. <3

[Lalaith]

++Loslote

What on earth was she saying about Mac in that rant? Can anyone else figure it out?

[Firefoot]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Firefoot is way, way too spot on here. Of course she knows who the other pack killed at Night - she was there. My pack killed Rune and Legate (I would like to take the credit for figuring out that Legate was likely the Seer, thank you, I was pretty pleased with that. Can't believe he got the info out anyway) and Mac's and, presumably, Firefoot's pack killed tp and Rikae. (I didn't know which of Rikae and Mac they had killed until Firefoot confirmed for me that Mac was one of her pack, by the way. Thanks for that.)

Also, notice how Firefoot plays down how much Rikae and Legate both suspected her? I remember last Night thinking that Legate would probably dream either her or me last Night, and Rikae definitely suspected her, so she wasn't nearly as well trusted as she is trying to pretend here, and she is just as implicated in the case that a wolf pack Night killed one of them as I was, even though she tried to pretend otherwise.

My pack, kill her. Village, kill her. She is a wolf, and a rival of mine, and I will not have competition for my own dearly beloved packmates. <3

You may, of course, take the word of a wolf.

For the record, here were the last things Rikae and Legate said about me:

Rikae, #380: [After a post by post analysis]: Conclusions: very safe, very under-the-radar, but otherwise seems innocent enough.

Legate, #329: Personally I do not know what to make of Firefoot, it isn't particularly striking impression, but the bit of wishy-washiness is there. [And later]: I just mentioned Lottie above (and Firefoot too, in fact), I am not sure if I would really go so far to vote for them.

#340: Could just as well be in the yellow zone though, it is more a matter of distinction, I think it would be nice to reread the posts etc to get better opinion, but that's about it.

I'd also like to point out that I have been pretty consistent in my suspicion of Mac, and voted for him yesterday bringing him to three votes when Agan had only four.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

You may, of course, take the word of a wolf.

For the record, here were the last things Rikae and Legate said about me:

The last things, but not the only things. You were on Rikae's radar:

Originally Posted by Rikae

Just popping in to say I'm not particularly happy with the options at the moment. I don't have much time but how do others feel about Firefoot, and about Lottie? These loud, controversial people - Agan, Mac - seem less and less wolfish to me, and I don't see much of a case against Morm.

In fact, you were one of two people she analyzed yesterDay. If I were you, and I thought she was the Seer, I would have been very concerned that she would dream of you the next Night, just to be sure.

Anyway, it doesn't matter too much whether or not you actually did worry that she was a Seer who had dreamt of you or not. You did try to distance yourself earlier toDay, and you did try to play down her suspicions of you, indicating that you knew going into the Day that you had to be careful not to link yourself to the Night kill.

I'd also like to point out that I have been pretty consistent in my suspicion of Mac, and voted for him yesterday bringing him to three votes when Agan had only four.

You might have crossed with Mac's vote for Agan, which brought her to five, but you did know he was around, and you had to know there was enough momentum against her and not enough against Mac, and that the lynch was basically already determined. I could easily see this as a safe but potentially effective bit of distancing yourselves.

None of this addresses the most important of my points: how did you know, without once suggesting something that was not correct, how the Night kills were distributed between the packs? You hit the nail on the head with your first swing, which would have been almost impossible if you only had access to the information the rest of the village does. You only could have know that that was how the kills fell out if you were, in fact, a member of one of the packs.

[Firefoot]

Originally Posted by Loslote

how did you know, without once suggesting something that was not correct, how the Night kills were distributed between the packs? You hit the nail on the head with your first swing, which would have been almost impossible if you only had access to the information the rest of the village does. You only could have know that that was how the kills fell out if you were, in fact, a member of one of the packs.

Good guess? Just seemed like the most obvious pairing...

A further point - since Lottie has been so kind as to take credit for Legate's kill, our possible seer, I'm going to guess that Greenie and Lottie are in the same pack - otherwise Legate's suspicion of Greenie wouldn't really point to him being a seer.

So our current list of the living is:

Lottie - wolf by her own admission, maybe with Greenie

Innocent, if we believe Legate was the seer:
Nerwen
Lommy
Mith

And the rest of us - up to three wolves in this group:
Form
Sally
McCaber
Boro
Firefoot
Lal
Eomer
morm
Nilp
Shasta
Kath

If we can ferret out Lottie and Greenie's packmate, we'd be down to one kill a night (by the wolves anyway...).

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Does that confirm that the third-party role killed Mac? (Bit hard to follow on a phone, sorry.)

++Lottie

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Does that confirm that the third-party role killed Mac? (Bit hard to follow on a phone, sorry.)

Well, it wasn't my pack, and it sure wasn't his own pack, so I'm gonna go with yes.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Loslote

My pack, kill her. Village, kill her. She is a wolf, and a rival of mine, and I will not have competition for my own dearly beloved packmates. <3

If that's the case, why doesn't your mates just kill her, or don't you feel like being THAT helpful?.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Nerwen has already voted for Loslote. We could test the theory by lynching someone else today? Or is that stupid?

I'm not sure it's the best time to do that. It would give us some information but only to the nature of her power, which we suspect anyway. I still wonder if the power rotates people, ordos presumably, or if it changes what the power is each day. However with the Nerwen, no vote day 1 and Mac's death it's likely that she has a super vote or something like that.

As far as Lottie's implication of Firefoot, it's interesting and shouldn't be wholly discounted, despite my feelings that Firefoot has been mostly innocent looking. I suspect there is a fair amount of truth in what she said. We need to decipher what that truth is. I do think Lottie is genuinely upset at the other pack and would be happy to throw them under if possibly, hence my thought that Firefoot may be worth watching now.

[Lalaith]

Can't believe he got the info out anyway) and Mac's and, presumably, Firefoot's pack killed tp and Rikae.

Ok, there is now a possessive apostrophe after Mac which wasn't there before and the sentence/meaning is now clear. Previously I thought Loslote was somehow claiming two kills for her pack last night.

[McCaber]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Ok, there is now a possessive apostrophe after Mac which wasn't there before and the sentence/meaning is now clear. Previously I thought Loslote was somehow claiming two kills for her pack last night.

Yeah, Mac was in a different pack. Firefoot's pack, if we believe the wolf.