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Spirit of Nen Lalaith
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Do you think that Morgoth intended for Maeglin to die?
He made sure Maeglin was safe from his own forces, but he gave him no safety from the people of Gondolin. Meaning he might have anticipated that Maeglin would die either way, at the hands of his own allies no less. Of course, the question is: what did he hope to accomplish by having his own loyalist killed?
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![]() Did he keep Maeglin safe from his forces? Maeglin was safe, but he never left the city, and I don't remember him running into any Orcs or Balrogs in the FoG. It's entirely possible that if he'd encountered Gothmog, he would have been skewered even while declaring his loyalty to the Iron Crown. Like I say, this isn't an evidenced position, and I'm more than willing to shift it if you know of source text I've not considered. ![]() hS |
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There isn't evidence per se. Presumably, he gave Maeglin a token he was to show should he encounter any of Morgoth's troops, and they'd leave him alone in turn. But this is just a fan theory I stumbled across. People on another forum say that Maeglin was an agent of Morgoth, who harbored fear and hatred for all Eldar, Maeglin included. If we suppose this to be the case, then the question 'what did he hope to accomplish with that'? Also, you never answered my earlier question: Could Morgoth have counter-summoned Maeglin's spirit to do his bidding? Re: Dior: I thought about this, and I think he was immortal, which means there were three mortals who succeeded in slaying an Elda. (And no, Beren doesn't count, since he didn't actually succeed.)
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![]() So... what use would the Dark Lord get out of the shade of an elf that nobody left alive trusted? You'd have to look into whether possession is a thing in Middle-earth; again, it's a common idea, but what the source is, I couldn't say. Quote:
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Maybe he merely wanted to torture him, as you said earlier.
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Spirit of Nen Lalaith
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Here is an interesting image:
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The 'Fall of Gondolin' book has come out. It'd be a more detailed description on FoG, which means it'll also feature you-know-who more extensively. Can't wait for it to be translated and distributed within my country so I could get my hands on it for more Maeglin goodness.
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Not sure who it's supposed to be.
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