TIG CXVII: GAME Thread:

[satansaloser2005]

And now that the three wolves have spoken, here I am as well!

Right. Whomever killed my Gal is going to face judgement. Show yourselves now, you curs, so we can be done with this quickly and with as little bloodshed as possible. No takers? None? Fine then. Maximum effort.

Okay, I'm actually off to bed soon, but I'm excited to play Werewolf again, and with some new blood. How lovely! I'll be back come morning with hopefully some posts to chew on.

Obviously don't kill anyone while I'm gone. I'll try to be in early-ish.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Boro posted first.

++Boro

Anyway joke vote aside, here’s a list of players that adds nothing.

Nice to see you again too.

Originally Posted by Formendacil

It is Day 1 and I am around (at least till my very would-be man in his eighties bedtime) but what else is there to say?

Before the end you will be objecting to the existence of Day 1s.

Originally Posted by Loslote

I'm here, I'm here! I spent a lovely morning in the garden. It's time to harden off the seeds - I have some truly delightful tomatoes, artichokes, and cabbage, not to mention the wildest looking morning glory seedling! I see I missed - oh my - three people are dead?!?

Hmm...so digging holes have you been? Placing anything else in the ground besides seeds?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

And now that the three wolves have spoken, here I am as well!

Right. Whomever killed my Gal is going to face judgement. Show yourselves now, you curs, so we can be done with this quickly and with as little bloodshed as possible. No takers? None? Fine then. Maximum effort.

Okay, I'm actually off to bed soon, but I'm excited to play Werewolf again, and with some new blood. How lovely! I'll be back come morning with hopefully some posts to chew on.

Obviously don't kill anyone while I'm gone. I'll try to be in early-ish.

Interesting choice of words...bloodshed, new blood, chewing.

[Huinesoron]

Three deaths in the opening narration makes me irrationally panicky. o.O

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Anyway joke vote aside, here’s a list of players that adds nothing.

Given that it comes two posts below the same list in the narration... yeah, that's pretty 'nothing'. So why'd you do it?

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Before the end you will be objecting to the existence of Day 1s.

Given how many Days 1 get derailed into exactly that kind of debate, I find it a little suspicious that you're courting it.

hS

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

{quote Morsul}
Given that it comes two posts below the same list in the narration... yeah, that's pretty 'nothing'. So why'd you do it?

hS

Because I’m bad at in character banter but wanted to participate.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Dorthonion! Ah! the wind and the whiteness and the black branches of Winter upon Orod-na-Thôn!
-wait, wrong character. Anyway, despite being encircled by Wolves, I feel very elated at the prospect of sharing a campfire with y'all again. Well, let's see how long that lasts...

Originally Posted by Loslote

I'm here, I'm here! I spent a lovely morning in the garden. It's time to harden off the seeds - I have some truly delightful tomatoes, artichokes, and cabbage, not to mention the wildest looking morning glory seedling! I see I missed - oh my - three people are dead?!?

Well technically, it's two. Gorlim merely left...

Anyways, I realise the waters of Tarn Aeluin are bountiful, but planting? We aren't farmers, we are, well, outlaws! More on the hunter-gatherer side, I'd say. But to each their own, I guess.

And cue in Day 1... (I just realised that we are missing Nogrod, not that there are not plenty of us others to get the ball rolling on the first Day). But so far in terms of attendance this looks promising.

I will hop off to gather some quick breakfast in these bushes over there and I'll be back and around, hopefully more people will also start appearing and we can start talking more.

[Thinlómien]

Good morning! err... afternoon?

I can't believe I'm in the blessed/cursed situation that I have an office job that I can do remotely from home so I can ww as much as I... ahem. Now it's my lunch break anyway.

On schedules (since I started): the deadline is 2am Finnish time. Sadly that means I will have to try not to be around for it, at least on weekdays. I will happily be a bandwagon starter then

(Or to be honest, not happily! Remembering how well my intentional bandwagon starting went in the last game And now that I brought up the last game, I can hardly do worse this time. Right? I guess it's a blessing Mac isn't playing.)

I don't have much to say about the Day so far. My reading comprehension is the level of "hmmm suspicious, somebody started making lists very early" ...and turns out it was Galadriel55. *add a laughing smiley because I ran out of the limit already*

I'll be back later with actual thoughts.

[A Little Green]

Looks like this far we've got Lottie gardening, Sally talking about blood and chewing, Boro trying to lauch the "are Day 1s pointless" -debate, and Lommy wanting to start a bandwagon. Did I miss anything? Also, I see Huin is already edging towards actual on-topic conversation by questioning and mildly suspecting others, which I like. I'm currently at work so can't devote much time to WW, but I'll be back later with (hopefully) something of actual substance.

[Morsul the Dark]

Seems many of us will be at work til almost DL myself included I don’t to debate the merits of Day 1 other than to say we have a 1/4 chance of getting a wolf if we shoot blindly. I feel those are decent odds.

However the first half of the day has been basically banter which doesn’t give much in the way of information, so I am wary of bandwagons.

Huin so far is the least suspicious but that leaves 10 others (obviously myself excluded)

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Because I’m bad at in character banter but wanted to participate.

Which makes sense if you're talking about the joke vote - it's banter and could potentially spook Boro if he's a wolf. But posting a list of names - and lampshading that it adds nothing - seems more like wanting to look like you were participating.

Speaking of lists...

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I don't have much to say about the Day so far. My reading comprehension is the level of "hmmm suspicious, somebody started making lists very early" ...and turns out it was Galadriel55. *add a laughing smiley because I ran out of the limit already*

Aulë knows reading-comprehension failures can do that to us all, but it seems like a bit of a (?non-)coincidence that you picked up on something that had actually happened, but then decided it hadn't - and then posted about it anyway.

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Back and reading, this seems to be slowly starting to get lively. Little to say thus far, but these comments caught my eye:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Given how many Days 1 get derailed into exactly that kind of debate, I find it a little suspicious that you're courting it.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Boro trying to lauch the "are Day 1s pointless" -debate

I am not entirely sure how Boro's comment constitutes as "launching a Day 1s are pointless-debate".

Now Hui seems to be poking around inquisitively overall, which is an activity that by itself can serve both good and evil purposes, so if this is just a part of that, whatever; but the formulation (the not-outright-accusing, yet suggestive "I find it a little suspicious", while putting words into Boro's mouth) does not seem right to me. Even stranger is that Greenie basically repeats the same, which just gives me the vibe of "quoting without checking the source", i.e. having seen Hui slightly suspect Boro and just latch on to that. That would be a very good move for a Wolf to pull.

Overall it's just weird because I don't read it as Boro "launching" any "debate" on "Day 1 pointlessness" in the first place.

Clarifications, anyone?

Anyways, I'll be on and off now as I'm at work, but I'll try to keep an eye on here. Also looking forward to see the rest of the people to appear - actually majority of players have showed up by now, which is nice. But still plenty of time until DL, so I hope we'll get some chance for more actual discussion.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

the not-outright-accusing, yet suggestive "I find it a little suspicious"

I mean, it was nine posts into the game. It's hard to imagine anything someone could say that early that would warrant a full-fledged accusation. I just thought it was suspicious - a little.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Overall it's just weird because I don't read it as Boro "launching" any "debate" on "Day 1 pointlessness" in the first place.

Clarifications, anyone?

Sure. By 'courting' I was thinking 'courting disaster' rather than 'courting the Lady Emeldir'; perhaps 'raising the spectre of' would do as a synonym? Boro wasn't starting such a debate - I agree with you that Greenie overstated that somewhat - but by bringing it up, he made it more likely that it would be a topic of conversation, and thus potentially a day-derailing debate in which the wolves could easily hide.

hS

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Legate

I am not entirely sure how Boro's comment constitutes as "launching a Day 1s are pointless-debate".

Now Hui seems to be poking around inquisitively overall, which is an activity that by itself can serve both good and evil purposes, so if this is just a part of that, whatever; but the formulation (the not-outright-accusing, yet suggestive "I find it a little suspicious", while putting words into Boro's mouth) does not seem right to me. Even stranger is that Greenie basically repeats the same, which just gives me the vibe of "quoting without checking the source", i.e. having seen Hui slightly suspect Boro and just latch on to that. That would be a very good move for a Wolf to pull.

Overall it's just weird because I don't read it as Boro "launching" any "debate" on "Day 1 pointlessness" in the first place.

Clarifications, anyone?

Can't speak for Huin, but for myself - in the same sentence I also mentioned Lommy wanting to start bandwagons (which is also quite a stretch) and Lottie gardening (I assume she wasn't, in fact, actually gardening). There was also as a telltale sign that I wasn't being entirely serious. That said, I do like giving the anthill a little poke early on Day 1 to see what comes out. I'm quite pleased with my success if this moves us forward from debating the relative merits of hunter-gathering vs farming!

Aside from that, I'm not entirely sure how latching onto someone else's suspicion without fact-checking would constitute a "very good move" for a wolf.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Which makes sense if you're talking about the joke vote - it's banter and could potentially spook Boro if he's a wolf. But posting a list of names - and lampshading that it adds nothing - seems more like wanting to look like you were participating.

Speaking of lists...



Aulë knows reading-comprehension failures can do that to us all, but it seems like a bit of a (?non-)coincidence that you picked up on something that had actually happened, but then decided it hadn't - and then posted about it anyway.

hS

Not going to lie the initial question seemed in good faith but latching on to the list post seems more unsavory . It was a throwaway post like “oh I was gardening, or sleeping, or whatnot.” I know I’m always an easy target as an innocent so I’m not sure if this is misguided innocent doggedness or wolffish attempt at early suspicion and attempted bandwagoning

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Not going to lie the initial question seemed in good faith but latching on to the list post seems more unsavory.

My question was in good faith; your answer was not reassuring. Reassuring answers could include: 'I always post lists', or 'I wanted it there to copy', or 'I expected there'd be more posts before mine'. To describe my failure to accept your answer as "latching on... unsavory... wolfish... attempted bandwagoning" is, ah... I'm going to go with 'a suspicious overreaction'.

Originally Posted by Boro

But let's say I was trying to start a debate about Day 1s? What's wrong with debate?

So your 'factual answer' comment made me feel a bit better, but then this happened. What's wrong with that debate (and its relatives) is that it's been done a hundred(ish) times before; everyone knows the steps, and both 'let's discuss this' and 'we should be hunting wolves instead of discussing this' are great ways for wolves to contribute without implicating themselves at all.

Which, incidentally, is also what the "what's wrong with Day 1 Debates?" debate/question does. Which is why your asking the question keeps me suspicious of your motives.

hS