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If no one has anything to say...
Thank you all, then. Despite the serious disadvantage, you were worthy opponents. On night 1 we truly believed we had no chance.
Eternal life here we come
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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Terribly sorry loves, but I slept in a lot more than I'd planned on. I was all for lynching Cabbie (yay nicknames!) but....well, I believe him now, mostly because he seems the honest type and he didn't even try to save his own skin. So although it won't make a difference in the long run....
++Val ....because that way it won't be pretty much a complete shutout. We'll miss you Cabbie, and if you ARE a wolf, I'll eat my entire movie collection (and believe me, that's a lot to eat hehe). I'll shush now, as it's almost deadline. Remember, my dear competitors, if both Cabbie and Rikae were innocents, the ranger must choose wisely tonight as for whom to save. I'd hate to see us lose this Night just based on misconceptions and foolishness, with the wolves laughing at us all along the way. Actually, I think the image of the wolves giggling would be a funny one, but I hate to see it nonetheless. ~~Sally~~
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01-26-2008, 02:00 PM
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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OH! I miscounted! Hahahaha! Forget that whole last post then....nice knowing ya village!
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01-26-2008, 02:28 PM
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Silver in My Silent Heart
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Those who woke on the second day of the untimate madness, were welcomed outside by falling snow. It fell through the great arches in the walls of the Golden Temple. The soft snow was forming a cresent on the ground. In the middle of the cresent, where Nogrod’s body had lain, a great stone stood. The side facing the snow cresent was rough, grey and rounded. The side facing away was more peculiar, it was perfectly smooth and coloured with all the colours of the rainbow. The colours were truly a part of the stone and not just reflections, although they did seem to shine, but the stone felt somehow different from a gem. Even stranger than that was that when one looked at the stone from the smooth side, one could see farther than the other end. Yes, one could also see where the stone ended with the grey side, but it was possible to see other things as well. The things one could see were just formations of the colour with no objective meaning, but if one not only stared into the stone, but also into one’s mind, he find reflections. What the warriors saw, they didn’t mention to others, especially because they thought that they were the only ones seeing things.
Thinlómien was one of those who didn’t ponder about what they saw. Instead she danced an Elvish bellydance and shouted nonsense. She was the Immortal of three dimencions. The Ancient Beast didn’t even look like the Orc-Elf anymore, though the change was small, it was noticeable. At places her skin broke and black gaps were revealed. She continued laughing in triumph and her voice was truly terrifying. As the Whiteness entered the arena, Thinlómien became the only thing that the other warriors could see clearly because she seemed to have a black aura around her. Kath, to whom the snowfall brought hope, asked Thinlómien what her Immortality meant. Why was she here seeking eternal life, if she was already immortal? ”Immortal? I’m always immortal. I mean Immortality itself was named after me, so of course I can’t die”, Thinlómien said and sent a vicked smile at the Whiteness around her. ”You don’t scare me, Kath, I know what you are and I might even ask you the same question as you asked me. But, oh! You’ve found that your time does end?” Menel took out his sword and said in a commanding voice. ”The Beast must be killed, now! The snow is a sign from the Moose Star. Don’t you see that the Star commands us to do it?” The Mooseslayer turned to Valier. ”And you aren't a Ranger! I know! A Ranger would never have, and hold, a sword like that. Neither was Legate a Ranger and I doubt you wouldn’t agree. How do I know? Because I am a Ranger, imbued with the power of the Valar. I got tired of being a Hunter many years ago and so I changed my profession. Good for me, haha”. ”You’re wrong. Come kill me and if you manage to do that I’ll die as a martyr. Your Star knows little to tell you such things”, answered Thinlómien in a surprisingly serious tone. ”Yeah, we can’t know if that Beast is what she says she is, so what about kicking Menel’s butt? Huh?” mumbled Brinn the Emo and struck a few ugly notes on her guitar. ”I agree. Though Menel is right, I cannot protect you at nights, he can’t either. Remember Legate’s dying words. Now those were the words of a true Ranger”, said Valier, ”I’m Innocent like the newfallen snow”. ”No way! Menel is a Protector. I’m a Jäger myself and I have heard a lot about the deeds of Menel. I even met him once before, he told me that he was getting bored of being a Hunter. Having that said, I think Valier is lying… However there is something odd in her, she doesn’t walk like a Wolf… I agree with Menel about killing Thinlómien, I know that he's a good tracker”, revealed Izz. It took people time to recognize the man, who stood in the shadowy part of the arena, although a lot of talk had went on about him. McCaber said, ”Hmph… Menel is a liar, who doesn’t care about his life. Nobody in his right mind would reveal being the Protector as soon as Menel did”. Menel’s tolerance ended. ”It’s time to get it over with”, he shouted and rushed at Valier. Before he was even half-way, Brinn, McCaber and Thinlómien were upon him and held him back. ”Watch it!” spat Brinn as the ex-Hunter tried to kick her off. ”There’s a chance you’re telling the truth and that is the only thing holding me back from killing you here and now. Though nah, truth be said, it’s because McCaber here looks even worse”. She let go of Menel and the other two followed. At first McCaber defended himself. ”Me a minion of Evil? You can’t be serious! I have killed more of Morgoth’s followers than all of you have killed together, even if one also counts the countless innocents you slaughtered. In the name of Evil, no doubt! I killed every single of the Rhtch’haag, the abominable monsters the Sisterhood of the Pliers created. You need proof, ok, I’ve got it. Have you ever even heard of the Rhtch’haag? No? Hmph, I told you”. The fanatic assassin ran out of breath. ”He does look suspicious”, agreed Valier. And he sure did, Taliesin, Aganzir, Azaelia and Thinlómien agreed with Brinn and slowly advanced at McCaber, who had already began a new story. ”-he got away, and still I seek the Vampire. Who will rid the land of such an evil if not me? Who? Who? Who was born under the Third Sigil of Fire? Not you, or-” Total silence fell when he suddenly stopped midsentence. He looked around himself and said, ”Ah, well. If you can't beat 'em, eat 'em”, in an odd voice, took a small purple vial from a hidden pocket and drank the stuff. With a smile he explained, ”Cyanide”. ”So, McCaber, are you a Wolf?” asked Aganzir. ”Nope”. ”So, McCaber, are you even the Councillor?” asked Thinlómien. ”Does it matter?” ”Ni”. The assassin fell to the ground and began tossing around. In a few minutes he stopped moving and his shadow dissolved. A little book fell from his hand. Taliesin stepped towards the body and lifted the book. It was a journal of some sort. The beginning was about whom McCaber had killed. Nearly all of his victims were servants of Morgoth. It was a long list. After one point there began to be more text, the thoughts of McCaber: ----------~~ McCaber’s friend back at home had recently died and he had become quite afraid of dying himself. He would not sleep and his pursuit to rid the world of Evil was slowed down. One day he stumbled upon a scholar, who had found a way to escape death. The scholar was quite old himself and didn’t dare try his plans in practise. McCaber, however, was eager and the scholar decided to tell him about his finds. The scholar told McCaber that Death could be brought into a living physical form through a complicated ritual. If one could destroy the Avatar of Death, there would probably be no death and so life would be eternal. McCaber thought that he had nothing to lose and agreed to try it out. The physical form chosen for Death’s body was a little orphan girl who had been the scholars servant for some time. The scholar prepared everything for the experiment and McCaber tried it out. The first part worked out well, something filled the girl. She, or It, could float purposefully, but there was no sign of being able to communicate. McCaber steeled himself and decided not to waver. He killed the girl. Nothing happened. McCaber and the scholar sat silent for the rest of the evening. McCaber would leave on the next morning. During the night he lay restless. What could have happened? Why did the girl begin to levitate and why was that all? He didn’t notice it at first but certain thoughts were trying to push themselves into his head. The thoughts grew stronger. They weren’t his own thoughts, he knew that because he couldn’t find any reason for them. Something continuously suggested that the scholar was a liar and should be punished. What McCaber noticed that the thoughts weren’t his own, he thought he could just block them and for a while he succeeded. Finally exhaustion took over and he fell asleep. In the morning, when McCaber awoke, he saw that the scholar had prepared breakfast for him. McCaber ate peacefully and thanked the scholar, who was bringing McCaber some honey at the moment. The scholar looked quite nervous and when McCaber lifted the mug the expression of the scholar twitched a bit. McCaber’s assassin instinct said that something was wrong. He looked into the mug and saw traces of something in it. He knew what it was that instant, cyanide. McCaber slit open the scholar’s throat and ran away from the house. ---------~~ After that the journal continued with names of McCaber’s victims. The farther it went, the less his victims were of Morgoth, until there were only several names at all, those however were Morgoth’s minions. Only a few other real entries were found and all of them rotated around being unable to control himself and now not only fearing death but also life. One entry was differed. It was quite recent. In it McCaber said that it was the first time he felt free for several months and that his Other Side was heading for the great competition on Númenor. The prize would be eternal life, but the Other Side had completely different motives. After that only one page wasn't blank. "Built from blind faith, passed down from self-induced fantasy, inflicting wounds with your cross-turned dagger" was written in blood. Taliesin finished the story and looked around... -----------~~ Around: Brinniel THE Ka satansaloser2005 Aganzir Thinlómien Valier Meneltarmacil Kath Naria Azaelia of Willowbottom Isabellkya Gone: Legate of Amon Lanc - lynched on Day0.1 - teleported away Roa_Aoife - lynched on Day0.2 - joined the dance Shastanis Althereduin - lynched on Day0.3 - reincarnated as the first Man The Might - lynched on Day0.4 - escorted away and sailed away Gil-Galad - lynched on Day0.5 - disappeared in a gate to a different world Groin Redbeard - lynched on Day0.6 - returned to where he came from A Little Green - lynched on Day0.7 - ended up on the moon Ugh-Friedrich - wasn't allowed to enter the temple after stage1 Nogrod - lynched on Day1 - destroyed by his daughter Rikae - hunted down by Nogrod on Day1 - carried away by the Great White Wolf McCaber - lynched on Day2 - managed to escape ---------~~ The game ended. Wolves win. Counsillor wins. Defenders lose. Protectors lose. Guardian loses. 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01-26-2008, 02:29 PM
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Silver in My Silent Heart
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Taliesin looked around. There were only ten of them left. Beside him stood Azaelia, a bit farther Brinn, Valier, Aganzir and Thinlómien, all of the four smiled. A silence hung over the battlefield. Sally and Emily joined the company of the smiling women.
”So…?” ventured Izz, but nobody answered. Menel shifted slightly. Kath hoovered nearer. The wind had calmed down and no snow fell through the great arches anymore. The situation was so tense that the pressure inside the temple might have really risen. Everybody waited for something to happen and gazes slowly followed one another towards the balcony. Faint footsteps neared. Aganzir dropped to one knee as the steps grew louder. The ring on her finger chime quietly to the rhythm of the footsteps. ”My love…” Sauron entered the balcony and his four minions knealt before him. He looked at the ten living warriors in a pondering way and smiled. His look fell on the Wolves. ”I am grateful for what you did. The experiment was successful.” Sauron turned his eyes at Aganzir and let a little smile. ”Khamul, dear, the rest is yours.” He turned around and left. ----------~~ The five winners rose. ”You are Khamul? He who doesn’t lie?” gasped Taliesin. ”Yes, I am Khamul. I am She Who Doesn’t Lie.” ”And you five are the Werewolves?” asked Azaelia. Brinn took out a cigarette, lit it and chuckled in an insulting manner ”Do we look like Werewolves, or something?” ”No, you don’t. I have never seen a Wolf like you. But you are Wolves, aren’t you?” pondered Izz the Jäger. ”Nope. I said it’s not so obvious”, answered Thinlómien and a little jet of flame from inside ripped open her cheek. ”We’re not exactly Werewolves, though some of us could be”, specified Aganzir and took out her bow. Another flame leapt out of Thinlómien and left a dark hole behind it. Kath said, ”I fear I know who she is.” ”Me? Of course you know who I am, Kath! I’m what you once were”, laughed Thinlómien, ”I’m Immortal.” ”The what?” shouted Azaelia. ”She’s the Ancient Beast. And I must say that you’re unlucky that she’s here”, explained Valier. ”But what is she?” tried Taliesin, ”Khamul!” ”Hpmh, misusing my honesty like that… It is obvious, you know, that Thinlómien is a Balrog.” ”A Balrog? You mean she has fiery w-” yelled Izz in unhealthy exitement, but before she could finish her sentence or Aganzir answer it, they were interrupted by a loud ”honk” from Emily. Brinn finished her cigarette and said, ”Don’t you think it’s about time we deal with those fools?” ”It is”, Valier confirmed. ”Well, not necessarily, we don’t need to hurry anything. It would much more fun to pull out the nails first, then cut out their eyes, maybe burn them a bit, eat one of them…” suggested Aganzir. ”Since you mentioned eating, I’m kind of depressed that we didn’t get a laid table waiting for us. That McCaber looked quite tasty, but cyanide… I don’t think even my stomach would manage cyanide well. Emily, maybe – me, no”, complained Sally. ”Enough talk about eating us! It’s disgusting! Show your true forms and you shall see mine!” roared Menel and tried to rush Valier down one more time. Each Wolf quickly chose a target and four of them leapt away from Menel, while Valier simply dodged. -----------~~ Valier dodged and turned to face Menel with her magnificent longsword drawn. ”I must say that it’s ironic that you want me dead so madly”, the Ranger said as she thrust at Menel. ”What’s so ironic about that? You’ve been just as madly trying to get me killed?” Menel sidestepped Valier’s blow and continued with a swipe at her feet. She hopped a few steps backwards and took her stance again. ”You’ll be surprised! And you’ll wish that you hadn’t dropped you hunting skills.” ”Oh, most of them are still here in my head”, to show this the Protector sent out a special blow usually used to bring down bears. Valier just had enough time to block it. ”Not bad, not bad. However that’s not what I meant. You asked for my true form, fine with me. It would actually clear things significantly.” Between each blow Valier retreated a little bit towards the snow cresent. ”You weren’t so wrong when you said that the snow is a sign, you know.” ”Even if you’re a big nasty snow-woman in reality, you won’t defeat me. I was sent here to fulfill the wish of the Moose Start and that I shall do!” ”Exactly!” that said Valier jumped on the pile of snow and where the Ranger should have stood, a white deer stood. Menel gasped and decided against following Valier on the snow. ”You didn’t expect me to turn into a bloodthirsty black sheep, did you now?” Valier’s voice said through the deer’s mouth. ”The boy who lived won’t live much longer. That’s what happens to warriors who underestimate their enemy.” ”You-you-you’re- you can’t be-” ”But I am!” the Weredeer stood on the snowpile and looked down on the Protector. ”And you dare call yourself the Mooseslayer! You were that, you definitely were that! But you’re not anymore. How could you be if you couldn’t see that I’m what you had hunted for many years!” She glared at Menel with piercing agony. Menel shook his head in disbelief. ”Norsolit… The Weremoose of the North…” ”Yees, now you see. I told you. But may I correct you that I’m not actually a Weremoose, I’m a true Weredeer. That helm you have was once my brother Tilnosor, the Were-elk of the East. And you, my dear fool, are the slayer of my other brother, Sorontil, the Weremoose of the West.” ”I know it, dammit! Why, why did you follow me here?” ”Did I follow you?” Norsolit said and tried to look innocent, but had some trouble looking more innocent than a fanged deer. ”I was just as shoked to see you here! Had you not crowned yourself with my brother’s antlers and claimed that filthy title, I probably wouldn’t have recognised you.” ”Then how?” ”Haa! Now here’s something you didn’t know, listen carefully. The Moosestar…” said the Weredeer and made a dramatic pause. ”What!?” ”Has two sides!” ”No way!” Menel yelled and whiped the freezing sweat off his brow. ”Yes yes, you know only the Evil side of it. Why else whould you think the Maia of our kind wanted to kill us?” Menel stopped, clearly pondering on it. Then he grimassed in mental pain having to accept it. ”One day, the Good Moosestar came to me and told me that I would become the hero of my kind by travelling to this very competition. It’s only a guess, but I think that was the same day the Evil Moosestar set you to your mission.” Suddenly Menel was very calm and showed no emotion. ”Thanks for all the fish.” ”What?” a tiny sign of worry flew with the Weredeer’s voice. ”’Thanks for all the fish’. That was it… Hey, Valier, did the Good Moosestar say anything like that?” ”No…” ”Hmh… How very, very strange…” ”Whatever! Now we’re both here. Finally I can avenge my brothers and save us!” She leapt off the snowpile in the deerform and plunged at Menel’s face.” Menel would have lifted his sword and cut the Weredeer’s head off if it weren’t for the Scar. As Valier left the snow, the antler-shaped scar on Menel’s brow sent a paralyzing wave of pain and rendered him helpless. Valier sunk her fangs deep into the ex-Mooseslayer’s face and ripped it open. So ended the eternal struggle between the Good side and the Evil side of the Moosestar. ---------~~ An odd set of objects flew at Izz: Several iocane-dipped arrows, a spork, three magical cards and a heavy load of sarcarm. Izz wasn’t a person who concentrated on defense, or at least true defense, as she was the follower of the phrase ”offence is the best defense”. In this situation however offence served little help. She’d have to survive without fancy shields. Luckly for her, her reflexes very quite remarkable - when they weren’t drowned in Jägermeister. Izz decided to deal with the incoming missiles by getting rid of the most dangerous items first. She threw three knives with great precision at the three magical cards, which exploded as they were hit. The arrows were trickier. Izz had to do some serious blocking with her Plunger of DOOM. Even the tiniest contact of the arrows and her skin might have become fatal. She managed. Now for the sarcasm, the deadliest of them all. Good thing was that sarcasm is quite slow to reach its target. Izz grabbed her Pint of Jäger and swooped the sarcasm into it. With one effifient gulp she swallowed the whole pint and left it to her gastric acids to defuse the sarcasm. At that moment the spork hit her right in the middle of her forehead, leaving a bloody bruise. ”Never, ever, underestimate the spork”, said Sally, who followed her missiles would-be-more-peacefully, ”I’m a very nice person really so I’ll comfort you with the knowledge that rarelly my enemies reach as far as the spork, and those who do, fall by it.” Izz had a hard skull so she still had options of doing something. She whiped her skull making it less bloody. ”You’re a Werewolf and nothing more. I can deal with such!” ”Quack?” asked Emily, who followed Sally would-be-even-more-peacefully-than-Sally. ”No, soon”, Sally answered Emily and turned to Izz, ”I’d like to quote Brinn. Do I look like a Werewolf? Do I?” Izz didn’t bother answering. ”Hm. Emily, do I look like a Werewolf?” ”Honk, honk.” ”There. Emily doesn’t think I look like a Werewolf. Don’t bother asking ’What are you then?’ I’m not much, just Sally Underdale, Keeper of the Random Objects, a friend of Emily’s.” The Jäger answered by tossing two knives. Sally tossed two magic cards and the knives exploded. ”Works both ways, doesn’t it. Emily, please.” The duck dissolved into thin air. ”I must say it was nice knowing you.” Said Sally and winked. ”I’m not dead yet!” shouted Izz in annoyance. The sarcasm had finally been digested. The Jäger grabbed the Plunger of DOOM and leapt at would-be-peaceful Sally. ”I see you have the Plunger of DOOM, well I’ve also got an item of DOOM in my possession.” Just as Izz was about to plunge the Plunger into Sally, her arms threw themselves into the opposite direction of the Duck Whisperer. Her feet were frozen to the grownd, but something pulled her arms. Izz’s whole body was assailed by pain and she lost control of all her muscles. To make matters worse, Sally drew out her enchanted compass and placed it under Izz. The compass glowed- no, burned, with a purple flame. The flames licked Izz’s body and the unknown force continued ripping her appart. Joint by joint Izz’s body cracked and broke. Her outstreched body moved to hang directly over the purple fire. Izz wasn’t sure what the fire did to her, partly because there was very little space for concentration left in her. If it could be possible, she felt like boiling allover. While Izz was still somehow conscious, Emily appeared on top of her. Sally came over and digged out Izz’s heart with a spork. The last thing Izz saw was Emily honking in joy and ripping at her boiling heart. ---------~~ There was so much battle going on. The noise, the smell, the tension, the madness… It was crazy! She was trying to find a way out. Why did she ever end up here in the first place? She couldn’t even remember herself. It might have been because of her older brother. He always goes on talking about his exciting adventures and – yes – he probably convinced her. Or was it some other place he had told he had been to? Maybe… Azaelia tripped over her own heel. ”Oh dear, I don’t think that’s even average. I must be turning below-average”, she said to herself. Azaelia stood up and hit her head against something. She creamed and turned around. A throwing axe was stuck to the wall of the arena. Whiuhiuhiuhiuhiuhiuh –THUNK! Another throwing axe was now stuck to the wall, and with it Azaelia’s sleeve. She screemed! Then she screemed again and tried to free her sleeve, but the axe didn’t move. She screamed for a third time, even more wildly and pulled at the axe with her whole strength. Nothing happened. Azaelia braced herself against a better-aimed axe coming next, but instead of an axe, Aganzir herself came. Showing even less emotion than usually, Aganzir walked right up to Azaelia and plucked the two axes off the wall. Azaelia watched in fright. ”Get up, little Miss”, said Aganzir and yanked Azaelia to her feet. ”Do you have idea why I didn’t kill you with an axe?” ”No!” Azaelia squeaked. ”If I didn’t have a reputation to keep up I’d lie to you, but I missed with the first two ones.” Azaelia gulped at Aganzir’s gaze, the most uninterested staring gaze any mortal had ever encountered. ”I didn’t throw a third one because you were caught with that sleeve of yours. I prefer running targets, although I have to admit that you were screaming quite heartwarmingly.” Azaelia wanted to gulp again but found that she couldn’t dare to do so. She grabbed the edges of her dress instead and started sobbing. How could somebody be so cruel, why could somebody be so cruel? Her sobbing turned into crying. "Quit that. Now, get ready to fight and die." Aganzir moved a few steps away from Azaelia and continued with the most uninterested evil laughter ever heard, "Muahahahaha. No man can kill me!" "Don't kill me! Please..." Azaelia gulped several times and quietened down letting only irregular sobs. Aganzir stood in front of Azaelia and waited for something, almost suggestively she said "No man can kill me!" Azaelia quietened completely and looked confusedly at Aganzir. Then suddenly her face brightened, but just for a shirt time. "Why do you tell that to me?" "As I said, I prefer killing moving targets." "O. k... But I don't have a weapon." Azaelia only now noticed that she had left even her kebab stickers in her chamber. "That is pathetic", Aganzir took out a long dagger from under her black cloak and tossed it to Azaelia's feet. She herself lifted a decorated hatchet. Azaelia lifted the dagger, thought about her big brother and tried to stab Aganzir, who dodged and punched at Azaelia with her left fist. The hit caught Azaelia, but she bravely attacked back. Each time Azaelia tried to swing the dagger at Aganzir, it was met by the axe and pushed far away after which Aganzir sent another humiliating punch. The stabs and swings became more careless with each time Azaelia was hit. All bruised and bleeding, she would have exhausted herself to death if not for Azaelia stubling over her own heel while pushing herself for a thrust. The axe parried empty air while the blade of the dagger pierced Aganzir under the ribs. Azaelia let go off the dagger in fear when she noticed that it had stuck in her enemy. She backed off uncertainly. ”I don’t want to die”, said the Black Easterling and looked down at her wound. Slowly she lifted her stare into Azaelia’s eyes, who decided that fear was passed along with dagger. Comprehending what she had done, Azaelia’s mouth moved into a grin and she cried. ”I’m no longer Azaelia the Average! I’m Azaelia the Above-Average. And no! I’m more! I’m Azaelia the 20-Times-Better-Than-The-Best-Of-The-Above-Average! Yes. I am!” She glanced at Aganzir who continued standing pierced. She stopped too and they both stared at each other for a moment. ”I beat Khamul! I beat Khamul! I’m Azaelia! And I beat Khamul! And that’s because I’m 20-Times-Better-Than-Th–” With a cling the dagger fell at Azaelia’s feet. Aganzir stood before her with her outstreched arm and open palm. All the time she gazed at Azaelia completely uninterestedly. ”You, you, you lied! You lied to me!” Azaelia roared with anger. ”You betrayed me!” ”No. You misunderstood my words”. For the first time Aganzir smiled amusedly. ”Funny how you people think that mortal women are someway better at killing me than mortal men. Seriously”. She lifted the sacrificial hatchet and brought it down on Azaelia’s forhead. ---------~~ More narration coming later. Last edited by Volo; 06-08-2008 at 07:33 AM. |
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Silver in My Silent Heart
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If something odd happens.
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01-26-2008, 02:31 PM
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Can we talk or do we have to wait for the final narration?
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So we can gloat? I say YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
 I never thought I'd enjoy wolfing some day, but I did, at least from time to time. Mostly thanks to my awesome fellows, we had a great team spirit and our nightly discussions were hilarious. But I still prefer being all nice & innocent, suits me better as I'm afraid I'm very bad at being dishonest.
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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Night One....(including a couple from our mod-god
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From : Volo To : satansaloser2005 Date : 2008-01-14 12:42 Title : WW42 ROLE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are a Werewolf! Your fellows will be revealed to you during Night1. ================================================== ============================== From : Volo To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 14:12 Title : Wolves! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello dear Wolves! Congratulations on surviving! You may now PM one another at Nights. ModVolo PS: Friend Valier would like to inform you that she'll be around only after six hours or so from now (deadline time). ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 14:21 Title : Full moooooooooooooooooooooon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello fellows. I'd love to start with a cheerful greeting but I'm afraid I can't. Really. I think we're going to lose this game: we have no kill toNight and one of us (=me) is practically lynched already. The gifteds and lynch-informations are going to make up a list of known innocents really quickly. I really can't see us winning this game, at least not with a normal style. So, I think we should play a totally crazy game. Like, vote for the same person (no one is ever going to believe we're all wolves if we vote the same person, however silly the reason), come out as gifteds and lie ruthlessly about the roles of the lynched. It should be fun. I've been toying with the idea of coming out as a seer toMorrow. I could say I've been under so much suspicion that I'm afraid I will be lynched. I would announce Nogrod and possibly someone else too as wolves - or claim somebody innocent. Then, just imagine, if you all "believed" me, we could possibly get one 95% sure gifted lynched and no one would catch us all. It's be hilarious. Yes, I'm quite sure Noggie is gifted, because I'm a wolf and TM seemed very ordoish. As to what gifted, I think he might be the assassin/hunter thing, as he joked to me in RL that he's going to kill me on Night1. I've already discussed these things with Aganzir to a little extent - pardon us, but Volo was as lenient as to tell us each others' identities a bit too early and we had happened to plan to meet today anyway - but I'd very much like to hear everybody else's opinions - especially if you'd like traditional-style wolfing or something totally crazy, and if something crazy, then what do you think of my suggestions? -Lommie ================================================== ============================== From : Aganzir To : Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 15:42 Title : Howl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder what it is that Sauron attracts only female warriors this time... Brinn, you can't believe how happy I was when Volo *eventually* told you are a wolf (he's the second greatest liar I've ever met. I asked him about my fellows after my pre-day, and he gave me different names every day after that). The first time you're wolf here, sally? I'm rather looking forward to this. You're such a mad player. And I'm happy you are a wolf also, Valier. You would have been among my killing preferences otherwise - I found you scary. Lommy m'dear... Nice to get to prowl with you at last. Let's hope it lasts more than this one night. I'm sorry to lose such players as Roa and Greenie. If not for McCaber failing to vote, Roa would probably be here among us now. I think he deserves to be lynched for that. Okay. My opinion is the same as Lommy's - that we don't have good chances to win. The reasons? *numbers. There are 6 gifteds, and even if there was a cobbler, it's quite a big number. *seers. This is not entirely fair, but as it's Volo's own fault I don't mind sharing it (not that it couldn't be guessed anyway). I was discussing with him in MSN and he said "you'd better get rid of the defenders during stage 1." So there are surely at least two of them. *it's too easy to find known innocents. Usually it would take a defender two nights to find out if their dream is gifted or a wolf, but with the pre days they have one known wolf / innocent by tomorrow. In the worst case, two of us are revealed this early. And for every lynched wolf whose role is revealed, there's one known innocent. *we will soon face a situation when the known innocents outnumber our chances to kill them. When that happens our battle is lost. I agree about Nog probably being a gifted. Menel could be also, or am I reading too much? Quote:
I think we can't afford to lynch Lommy on Day 1 if we want to be rid of Nogrod. My guess is that he would be protected the night after lynching Lommy - and by very bad luck it'd even be a ranger who received Lommy's role. But if Nog is a hunter/assassin thing, he's not too dangerous for us after he's killed one (and that is Lommy, if she's not lynched before that). So yup, the best idea would probably be to get him lynched before he has a chance to kill. We must remember that decisive vote thing. Surely we don't want anyone to be able to have themselves protected? If possible, we should at least try that one of us is the one to cast the decisive vote. I would love to play a crazy game. But if we want to win, sacrifices must be made. The best way would probably be that a couple of us ruthlessly lynched the others and tried to make it through by themselves. Anyway, I prefer the idea of losing but playing a totally unforeseen and memorable game. Labelling all the fellows as innocents? Seriously trying to lynch all of us? Playing gifteds just for fun (that might even reveal some of them from their hiding places)? Lying about the lynched player's role? Lying about receiving the lynched player's role when actually didn't? All voting for the same person? Making a bandwagon just out of the blue when it's already quite probable that someone else will be lynched? The thing is, the first person to reveal something is generally believed. It'd be nice to see if that's only because the first person to reveal is usually not lying. At the beginning, I thought I would try not to lie at once. If we aim for winning, I'm willing to continue like that, but in case we're going to make this a total chaos I'm just happy to abandon truth. Anyway. Whatever our goal is, I'd like to have a strategy. I've never before got to play with a proper strategy, and it'd be very nice to try that. To even find a way to discuss during the days would be great. What say you? -Agan ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 19:31 Title : Re: Howl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Urgh, I was really hoping Volo wouldn't reveal to everyone the number of wolves and gifteds left alive. That's another disadvantage towards us... Since I've realised I'm a really bad guesser (especially after Nogrod's game), I decided to play as an ordinary for my Day and throw out my suspicions since I had a 2/3 chance of being wrong. In the case of Nogrod/Lommy, I was split between the two so I chose to go after Lommy...very sorry about that one, Lommy... Obviously those of us who did suspect Lommy cannot simply drop it...that would be suspicious in itself. But at the same time I'd rather not get her lynched because Nogrod as a known innocent (and probably gifted) would be plain dangerous. So while we should still suspect Lommy, maybe we should redirect attention to someone else. Lommy may still be suspicious, but there are other innocents who have been suspected too...Nogrod, Menel, Zali come to mind. While I'd love to get Nogrod out of the way toMorrow or the next Night, once he's dead Lommy certainly will be lynched next. Of course, it'd still be better to for Nogrod to die before Lommy does... We are at a disadvantage with so many gifteds (especially two seers...eek!), but at least with so many, it should be easier to eliminate them. What I'm worried about with the seers is that they're probably going to dream their living opponent from their Day and that means two different seers might know the identity of two different wolves come Day 2. When it comes to Night pickings, we will have to be careful with whom we pick. Some ordinaries already lynched a lot of people are going to assume innocent...such as Might, Shasta, Groin, and Gil...these newbies/no shows/suicidals were easy for us to lynch but most people won't see them as suspicious in the long run. So I think whenever Nogrod, Ka, Zali, or Kath gets killed, a wolf will be heavily at risk. Of course, that's a lot of people, so we might just have to sacrifice a wolf early on... I don't know...we may be at a disadvantage, but I still think we have a fair shot. Only one of us has to survive for us to win, and it's quite possible as long as we can eliminate all the seers. Plus we have a cobbler(s) on our side who can also examine the dead. I'm totally for playing crazy as long as it means completely confusing everyone for a win. Revealing is a good idea, though it only works for a Day or so. Starting a new bandwagon from nowhere can work (we all know Aganzir can pull that off real well ). Okay, a thought just came to mind...it could work for toMorrow or afterwards: When I think about it, if someone really wanted to sacrifice themself, we might actually have a good chance of winning. If a wolf started the bandwagon against another wolf and every single other wolf ganged up too and voted that one wolf, no one would suspect that. Especially if it was a wolf who made the deciding vote to lynch another wolf. Because while it's normal for wolf-on-wolf votes to occur, I don't think the innocents will expect every wolf to do a wolf-on-wolf vote. It'd take them a long time (if ever) for them to figure it out...though it'd only work if only we were the ones responsible for starting the bandwagon and not the innocents. No wolf should try to make their vote look like a safe wolf-on-wolf vote; we should all play boldly. Even better, if an innocent mistakenly tried to save the wolf getting lynched, they could easily be targeted the next Day. But of course, we'd have to have a wolf who wants to sacrifice themself like that...and whoever that is need to be able to put up a pretty good show, but still manage to gain the trust (and not votes) of at least some innocents (a unanimous vote would make this pointless). I don't know...it could just be crazy enough to work. What do you guys think? We may be at the disadvantage, but I still want a shot at winning. After all, I haven't managed to win a game since Legate's... -Brinn ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 19:38 Title : *evil raucous laughter* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah, to return from work and find a message aligning me with the likes of you all. Huzzah, an army of she-wolves which shall trample our village like none has been trampled before! *more evil raucous laughter* Okay, enough of that. I agree with Lommie. I think at least one of us should come forward as fake gifteds. I actually kind of assumed we might have to do this and so in my analysis of Legate I gave the slightest hint that I myself was a gifted (post 224, where I eliminated four of the five gifteds for Legate's role, and left one unspoken). This was actually a mistake, because I got the counsellor and the guardian mixed up and aligned myself with the latter, a wolf-assisting post. But no matter. Either way I've hopefully managed to give myself the appearance of gifted, which might come in handy later if someone conveniently gets overanalytical with my posts. Whatever butters your toast. What we choose to do with gifteds is up for further discussion, as we can't all just go off half-cocked claiming seership. Course I'm confident a pack of pros like yourselves can come up with quite a cunning plot by the "morning". Brinn, your message just popped up. In response, I agree that those of us that were after Lommie should stay in that direction. The rest of us can go after Noggie if necessary. Divide and conquer of sorts hehe. K I should send this sometime soon as I've got a few assignments due tomorrow that I need to start on before my friend Emily comes over for supper. I'll be around for the rest of my night to reply to any messages and such. Good job surviving the preliminary battles my hairy cohorts. Let's kick this village's tail! ~~Sally~~ ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 19:42 Title : FW: *evil raucous laughter* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, I'm really going in a bit here. But I just finished reading Brinn's message. The part about the wolf sacrifice in a couple days is something to seriously consider, especially if the first day or two doesn't go in our favor. I hate to have to sacrifice one of our own, but if it helps the group and we have a willing lynchee I'm not completely against the idea. ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-22 21:43 Title : mwahahaha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree, lets turn this village upside!!!! It's a little crappy that we can't talk during the day, so have to make sure we pay attention to what each other is doing, so we know to play along or not to any craziness. I think I will probably be a person of great interest tomorrow. If everyone looks at the days as they go I was on the first day. Quite a few people have voiced suspicion towards me. I think I should play up the innocent as far as it will take me. But I am willing to sacrifice myself. Let me try and see how much confusion I can spread in a few days, if at anytime it looks like I'm going down, let's have a code phrase like....every one's going crazy!! If I say that in the first line of any of my posts, all of you start a bandwagon against me as Brinn suggested. This will at least save a few of you. Since no one would suspect that all the wolves would bandwagon and lynch a fellow. We need to be one of the first if not the first and last to vote for me, sealing my fate. I think all of us should come up with a bit of a plan of their own to mess with everyone and do it. I like the idea of lying about roles, deaths etc... I say we lie about everything. LOL everyone of us should make up something or do something weird or suspicious, then we have a greater chance of one of us sneaking by as innocent. let's come up with something for each of us to do the next day, every night. They won't expect all of us to be bold and weird and not caring if we lynch each other. I do think we should be careful about too many of us arguing, as that does sound a lot like a recent game, where all the wolves went after each other and got lynched. So my plan for tomorrow is to play the innocent, but if it looks like it's not going to work, then I will say (every one's going crazy!!) in the beggining of my post then all of you start voting for me. I really can see me being the object of lynchdom tomorrow, but let's hope I can sway others away from me. I rushed this a bit, but I will be home all night and right up until the day starts, so please I would like to hear back from all of you or some of you...lol ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 22:34 Title : Re: mwahahaha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well Valier, I think Lommy will receive more pressure than you, but I'm sure you'll be suspected as well. But I actually agree with Valier's choice to sacrifice herself. Because while Lommy may seem the easier target, I fear if she becomes our sacrifice we will end up with a unanimous vote. With Valier, suspecting her may be sensible to some innocents while others may disagree. Yet I don't think we should all pursue it until we know we're ready to...with Valier's keyword, for example. But we shouldn't gang up on her all at once. I think there should be one of us who actively pursues her from the very start, say Aganzir, since she already suspected her and can be quite persuasive. If Lommy's in serious trouble, it might be good for us to find a way to turn the tables and have people bandwagon towards Valier. And if Lommy managed to make the deciding vote (say if there were a tie), that would take a lot of heat off her. If for some reason Valier doesn't get lynched right away, we can still continue this plan into the next Day (and we'll have another Night to discuss). Surely no one would expect all the wolves to be so persistent on lynching their packmate for multiple Days! It's extremely late, so I'm heading to bed... P.S. I'm going to Belgium this weekend and I haven't decided if I should take my computer or not. The first hotel I'm staying at looks secure enough, but I don't know about the hostel. I'd rather not drag around my laptop, but at the same time I wouldn't want to miss out on the fun. If I don't take my laptop, I'd be missing part of Day 1, Night 2, Day 2, and half of Night 3. Ugh, that's a lot. You know what, I'll really try to bring my laptop as long I know it'll be secure...but I still won't be able to participate as much as I'd like. Sorry for the inconvenience...I'll let you know what happens asap. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 00:04 Title : mwahahahahaha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Okay no problem. Just keep us posted wolfie dear. On that note....I probably won't be able to check my messages until around like midDay-ish. Aka my first day won't be terribly active because I have a few things I need to take care of to wrap up my current class and suchness. So I'll probably have to swing in after that and do all my posting, voting if necessary, etc. Just letting you all know. ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 04:18 Title : hello again  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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And if we managed to get Noggie lynched toMorrow but I'd get lynched the next Day, well, we could all concentrate most of the discussion to accusing and lynching me instead of "looking for wolves" and with good luck others would follow our lead and even though a wolf would be lynched, the Day would be quite useless for the innocents. Quote:
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I think there will be a lot of pressure on me toMorrow, Nogrod will take care of it. So what do you seriously think if I came out and claimed to be a seer? I would say I was so much suspected that I was afraid I'd get lynched. I could say that Might's post after our trial deadline convinced me of his innocence (because it really was the manifestation of ordoness) and thus I conclude that Noggie is a wolf. I could also say I dreamed of someone this Night and found him/her non-ordo. I think I could go for THE Ka. I could say that she's not an ordo, she herself might believe me if she's gifted like Agan thinks and I could reason coming out with her role by that I considered Agan innocent and Shasta didn't look giftedish, so I guess THE Ka is a wolf and even if not, well, I don't want to die without providing any information. Now, two questions 1) Are there any serious flaws in this plan? 2) Am I overestimating the suspicion and lynch-mood towards myself? And lastly, I'm not sure I understand what does this mean: Quote:
Looking forward to hearing from you (especially comments on my seer-plan)... -Lommy ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 06:31 Title : Re: hello again -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Another idea is to go with the sacrifice Valier plan...have maybe Aganzir start accusations and suddenly Lommy jumps on board. If people still are focused on lynching Lommy, then Lommy could reveal as a seer exposing Valier. And as mentioned, she could say she didn't dream Nogrod because she assumed Might innocent, therefore the former guilty. People would argue whether to lynch Valier or Nogrod...they'd probably choose Valier since she was the one dreamt of. Once proven a wolf, people would actually believe Lommy, so if they lynched Nogrod next and proved him innocent, they'd think it was an honest mistake. And since we could leave the possibility two protectors, she could keep this up for sometime. The only problem is that if Lommy reveals, the real seers might reveal too. The risk of that is people might believe them and lynch Lommy...though the advantage everyone could just assume with her guilt, Valier must be innocent (therefore she should be protected). If we wanted complete chaos, another thing we could do if a real seer reveals in reaction to Lommy is that Valier could reveal as a seer too in retaliation exposing Lommy as a wolf. Then we could have up to four people claiming seership...two would be wolves accurately declaring each other wolves. Who would expect that? Either way, I think one of us is probably going to have to die either toMorrow or the next Day for the rest of us to survive. One thing is that I seriously don't think we have to worry about a seer revealing their role unless one of us does first. The gifteds probably think they have the advantage over us, and so unless they think their life is seriously threatened the seer wouldn't want reveal until later in the game. A seer Lommy or Valier revealing would make sense because, like any other seer, they wouldn't do it unless their own life was threatened. Does that make any sense? I hope so.. Quote:
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By the way, I'm pretty sure Miss Kath is a gifted. I just wanted to make sure I posted that somewhere because otherwise I'll forget. The fact that she was perfectly okay killing Gil says to me that she knew he wouldn't be a gifted, so she'd have a 50/50 chance of catching one of us. Not terribly hard to figure out, but it's almost 7am and I haven't really gone to bed, so forgive me. Quote:
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I've been toying with the idea of rolling dice about the night kills. That would at least leave the village baffled. The wolf-bandwagon is a nice idea. But that'd need a volunteer who hasn't been suspected that much. If we eg. lynched Lommy like that, there would be someone to say that these people he suspects would be bold enough to lynch their fellow who has already been under heavy suspicion in order to look better. Plus the reasons Brinn stated. Anyway, I'm fine with being the one to suspect Valier. The only problem is that I'm not going to be around at the beginning of the day (first I'm sleeping and then at school). But I see what the situation looks like when I come and decide then what to do. Quote:
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I don't like this kind of reasoning too much, but anyway. Before the game started (with 18 players), I wondered how many there would be of each gifted, and (after Volo's slip) reached the conclusion that two seers and rangers, one hunter and cobbler. My guess was, though, that there would more likely be two cobblers than two hunters. Maybe it's just better we left Rikae alive for now. Though, I don't think we can ever be sure that she's not leaving false cobbler hints. I will post more something gifted-related later, but I must say I've never before played in a game where it's this easy to spot possible gifteds. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 07:42 Title : Re: Good morn' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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Okay must finish paper. I'm out for now. Leaving for class in about an hour so I'll be available until then and that'll be about it until Day starts, so I won't be able to reply after that. Later ladies! ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 11:10 Title : Hmmm... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My head hurts... This is doing no good to me. I will be online right after the deadline but then it will take ages til I get online next time. With bad luck, I will be able to be online about 8-9pm GMT and then next time a bit before 2pm the next day... so I'm afraid it might mess up some plans. And now this seer-thing is getting more complicated. I like this idea: Quote:
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As to a code phrase... if I need advice whether to come out as a seer or not, I'll ask if anyone wants to supply me with fresh squirrel heads for my footbags as the ones I have are all rotten. Say "yes" if you think yes and "no" if you think no. I'll try to write a bit in-character in all posts so that won't be coming out of the blue. Sounds ok? (And WARNING, I might ask if someone wants to play footbag with me, but then it's just ic nonsense... ) I think I will phrase vague suspicions about Valier and Ka, in a seerish manner but not in a similar manner and so I can always refer back to either of them if I need it. Quote:
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My innocent list for right now, done in a hurry as I need to scurry off. I just kind of eliminated people I thought to be gifteds and went from there. I think McCaber is innocent and didn't vote because he was torn between killing a wolf and killing a gifted. Isabellkya strikes me as an innocent as well, as does Naria. Don't quote me on that though; I looked at the list of still-alive players and whittled it down, so I probably have two people from the same day or something, but meh. It'll do for now. Right now I'm up for whatever is in the best interest of the group. I'll be of more actual planning skills tomorrow Night after my class ends because I'll have ample time to think and post. Until then my lovely wolvies, ~~Sally~~ p.s. I won't be around til 4hrs after the Day starts, just an fyi. Then tonight I have church but I'll be sure to post in between the two in case you need me.
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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....and Night Two....hard to believe the game was so short....
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From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 11:10 Title : Hmmm... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My head hurts... This is doing no good to me. I will be online right after the deadline but then it will take ages til I get online next time. With bad luck, I will be able to be online about 8-9pm GMT and then next time a bit before 2pm the next day... so I'm afraid it might mess up some plans. And now this seer-thing is getting more complicated. I like this idea: Quote:
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As to a code phrase... if I need advice whether to come out as a seer or not, I'll ask if anyone wants to supply me with fresh squirrel heads for my footbags as th ones I have are all rotten. Say "yes" if you think yes and "no" if you think no. I'll try to write a bit in-character in all posts so that won't be coming out of the blue. Sounds ok? (And WARNING, I might ask if someone wants to play footbag with me, but then it's just ic nonsense... ) I think I will phrase vague suspicions about Valier and Ka, in a seerish manner but not in a similar manner and so I can always refer back to either of them if I need it. Quote:
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-Lommy P.S. I haven't seen Volo today so I haven't been able to ask him anything. I'll be stalking in MSN and waiting for him to come online and if he doesn't show up I can always call him or send him an SMS. ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 12:44 Title : In conclusion - my tactics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will quarrel with Nogrod the whole Day (not looking forward to it ) and if/as it seems everybody's suspecting me I'll come out as the seer and "prove" Nogrod is a wolf and say I know one non-ordo and ask if the others want me to tell the name. If they want, I'll say Valier and the next Day we act according to Aganzir's plan. Sounds ok? As to other things, I think we shouldn't necessarily make the Valier-wagon now, but rather on Day2 and wait how does my possible seer-stuff work out. If anyone feels we should start the Valier-wagon, what about suggesting it by referring to her own horoscope in the character bio? (Ooh, I love this code language.) -Lommy P.S. Brinn's PM inbox is full. I'll send this message to her via facebook private message system, let's hope she checks in there. ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 12:53 Title : Re: Hmmm... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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So here's my list of suggestions for toMorrow: -Aganzir, try to make a case against Valier if you can...especially if I do one and mine doesn't look like a strong one -Lommy, do as you said and act seerish particularly towards Valier -If you need to or we advice it, reveal yourself as a seer, Lommy -Valier, if (either toMorrow or Day 2) Lommy, reveals herself as the seer and exposes you as possibly evil, reveal yourself as a seer to....but ONLY if you look threatened to be lynched or a second real seer reveals. (Btw, I agree you should "dream" of Menel toNight) -Aganzir, Sally, and me need to help sway things, but without drawing attention to ourselves. I agree we should try to avoid wavering too much...at least when we're talking about each other. If both Lommy and Valier reveal, we need to disbelieve one of them. It doesn't matter who- we don't have to hop on the same bandwagon...as long as we don't waver too much and strongly pursue one of them. I don't think the innocents would expect us to actually want to lynch a wolf, so we should really should just attack each other (not all at once though) instead of feeling neutral. Bold, is the key word here. Quote:
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It just sometimes seems that way because of the growing number in Lommy's clan. You see, apparently Nogrod, Volo, Aganzir, and Greenie are evidence of how persuasive Lommy can be. Beware. -Brinn (P.S. Just got 3 new PMs as I wrote this. Geez, I'm reaching my quota fast... ) ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 13:34 Title : Good luck! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alright everyone, I think we've done everything we can do right now. We have ideas and possible scenarios, and all we can do is wing it from there. I love our crazy plans and I think if we play this well, we have just as a fair shot of winning as the innocents do. And even if we do lose, at least we can manage to mess with their heads. I had lots of fun plotting toNight. In the last few games I was a wolf, I've had problems with having my mates get killed on the first Days and other communication issues. I'm glad to see that's not the case so far...everyone here is quite vocal and even if one of us dies early on, there'll still be four left. Anyways, I just wanted to wish everyone good luck for toMorrow. We should be able to totally play these innocents. And just a reminder: While there is a good chance I may bring my laptop to Belgium with me, I'll be limited to posting during the later hours. This means I probably can only post during the beginning of Night 2 and Day 2...though hopefully I should be back for the beginning and end of Night 3. Most likely, I'll be voting early on toMorrow since I don't know if I'll be back for the deadline (don't know if it'll be for a wolf or innocent...we'll see what happens). I'll post something on the admin thread, once I know whether or not I'm taking my laptop for sure... Okay, hope to talk to everyone again tomorrow Night! -Brinn ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 13:54 Title : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck to you all as well! And just to be clear, there will be no coded messages in my first post, so even if I manage to mess all up and make it sound like that, it is not so. ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 14:03 Title : !!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm laughing hysterically. If there's no other guardian, they can't kill me before Day3!!!!!!!!!! Hey, we might actually win. ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-24 14:39 Title : ladies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMG I missed the whole day!!! Hope everything went ok and I didn't mess up any of our plans. I will have to read the thread to see what's up, can one of you ladies fill me in as to what happened? Did we carry out any of our plans? did anything work? what all happened? Also what are our plans for tomorrow and who shall we kill tonight? Oh yes while I remember I made a list of the gifteds (who I think) I think Legate was a gifted McCaber is 100% a gifted. I know Naria and she is not gifted. she is 110% an Ordo I think Ka could be Nog is of course a gifted Kath I am sure is the gifted I think Groin may have been gifted and I think Isabel is a Seer This may change as I get more info and read the thread ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-24 14:46 Title : !!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMG ladies!!! I was the random choice of villager to get the pm telling me that Nogrod was indeed the Guardian. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS!!!! since we were fortunate enough to get this info and not an ordo or gifted. Lommy you can use this to help you tomorrow no? I've started reading and Lommy if you said you received the pm revealing the lynch, no one could dispute you. If they do we know they are lying since I was the one who got it.....does this make sense? Sorry I got excited when I read it!!! Volo thinks we are going to win!! LOL I am sure we can use this for wicked purposes. what say all of you? Ok I'm going back to read....I'll be around ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-24 15:10 Title : whoah -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok I got ahead of myself....didn't read everything. I guess my knowing that Nog was indeed a Guardian doesn't help us, since we know he was because of Rikae dying. I'm not sure if we can use this. I was thinking....do you think I should come out tommorow as the Ranger? LOL just burn menel's butt!! I've got so many things running through my mind at the moment I think I'll sit and chew on it for a bit. Hope to hear from you all. I am sure we can win this!! Oh and I say that we should kill either Isabel, McCaber or Kath. I think kath and Is are the seers and I am SURE MCaber is a gifted, what? I'm not sure. P.S Lommy I say your codes in your one post...I laughed!! Footbagging and watching the stars?LOL Not sure if anyone else answered direct like or added codes but this will be hilarious to tell when the game is over!!! LOL!!! GO FEMME FATALES!!!!! I am sure they are gifted. I think ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 19:11 Title : Re: !!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
*squeals in delight* Okay I havent' actually gotten to read the thread yet but I phoned one of my friends on the way back to campus (ah I love lurkers) and she told me the tremendous news. So we says to ourselves, "If one of us wolfiekinses gets the Noggie pm, wouldn't that be hysterical?" And WOW!!!!!!! This is like, molten awesome! Okay I need to go read the thread and see what transpired. I'm sure there's much kudos due to you all for your lovely skillehz after I'd left for the day. Okay I really need to go read the thread now. Expect another PM soon! and again....WOW! This is beyond coolness! P.S. Lommie's inbox is full just as an FYI in case you haven't tried to send her something already. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 19:21 Title : Re: whoah -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
*giggles, snorts, and eventually laughs herself into a tizzy* Okay, first of all, I forgot about Rikae being Noggie's guardian pick, so that indeed kind of negates Val's PM. But still, that means there's hope of the rest of us maybe getting access to a seer's role or something of the sort. By the way, what the heck is up with Rikae being the pick anyway? (yeah I obviously still haven't read the thread. I'm a Foat, what can I say?) NOt that I'm complaining, because I expected to come back from work this evening and find Lommie dead, one way or another. But no! We all live! Huzzah! Who to pick tonight by the way? I'll have to compile my own little who's-who list in a bit, but I'm so in awe of the turnout of today's events I'm just not in the mind to concentrate on tonight's activities right at this point. *is stoked* ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 19:32 Title : Omg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was so shocked when Noggie actually hunted Rikae. I can see why he did it...to leave one known wolf to lynch and take down another. But lucky for us, Rikae was not a wolf. It wouldn't be exactly fair if there were two guardians since it's a pretty powerful position. So I hopeNoggie was the only one. Are you planning to choose to be protected Day 3, Lommy? If you were, you could really mess with people's heads. No one would know when your lying or telling the truth. Everyone will know you're guilty, but they wouldn't be able to lynch you. Even better, if you could somehow make the deciding vote, then you'd be protected again (though that may be difficult to do). Another idea: If you are worried about a guardian, you could protect yourself for toNight. Most people will expect you to protect yourself during the Day, so they might not even try to lynch you. I don't really have much more advice for Lommy, except really try to mess with these people in whatever way you can. Mix up the truth and the lies so that they don't know what to think. Valier- Whatever you do I would suggest NOT revealing as a gifted, but to remain ordinary looking. While you may look suspicious, a lot of people aren't too sure Menel is telling the truth...so he might eventually end up getting lynched. If Menel was lynched and revealed and people believed it, you will head down the same road Lommy is about to. Otherwise, even if Menel died, some people may think the wolf is Legate. (I would actually suggest believing Menel and calling out Legate as a dead wolf...that would look more innocentish) As for the rest of us, I think I'm the only one who did gather any real suspicion yesterDay (wow). Hopefully I can stay under-the-radar since I won't be able to get online much toMorrow anyway (I worry people might look at me more with Noggie's innocence...hopefully not). Anyways since we're already sort of suspicious, I still think the best way for at least one of us to survive is to viciously attack each other. It'll be wild and fun...we might get one of us killed, but surely at least one (or two) of us would survive looking rather innocent. This is an outrageous game...so we can only play outrageously. So I say we do what they won't expect and actually try to lynch each other. And if some innocent gets killed in the middle of it...all the better. No one will listen to Lommy, but there's still four of us unknown who can manipulate the others so that they will trust at least a couple of us... Who to kill? One choice would be Kath. Because she didn't really stand out toDay...did anyone suspect her (I can't remember)? Plus, I think she is probably a gifted. The only problem is killing her could incriminate Sally. Another choice is Naria. If I recall, she didn't even really show up toDay, plus her death won't incriminate any living wolf...an easy kill. Izzy is a possibility...we still don't know if Rikae turned out to be a gifted or not. But if Izzy is, and Rikae's ordinary role is revealed, Izzy probably will know she'll most likely be the next kill and reveal. Izzy's my first choice, and Naria would be my second. I have to go to bed now, and I don't know if I'll be back before the Day...I'll try to get online in the morning. Btw, I might not be able to PM Night 3 until the last few hours. I think I only get 15 min of internet in Bruges...only long enough to read the Day's events. If I'm not back, good luck toMorrow! (And be very evil Lommy. ) ================================================== ============================== From : Aganzir To : Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 08:01 Title : Hey ho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That was just wonderful. The day worked out much better than I had even dared to hope. Keep in mind that the village doesn't know we have a chance to win tomorrow! They probably assume Rikae was a wolf (given the narration & that Nog's instincts are usually quite good) and we can encourage them to think believe so, though it will probably be appropriate to remind them that if she wasn't a wolf and they lynch an innocent, they'll win. We have two chances to win now (in case a nasty ranger doesn't stop us tonight): *we try to get an innocent lynched. It's risky because of the possible seer dreams. But if even one innocent votes another innocent, we can happily join the bandwagon and they don't have a chance. *Lommy will choose to be protected tomorrow and we try to get her lynched. No lynch occurs and we win the next night if there's no ranger save. It's risky because of the possibility of another guardian who'd be after her tonight. Everybody probably expects she'll be protected tomorrow so even if she decided to play it safe and choose to be protected tonight, I'm not sure if they'll risk lynching her. But if she isn't protected tonight and there's still a guardian, our bandwagoning possibilities weaken at once. Quote:
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Anyway, now it's more than obvious that Lommy is a wolf, so no one minds if she wants to tease the villagers a little. She could say she received Nog's role and he was a werewolf. Hopefully would distract at least a couple of villagers enough to make them wonder why Rikae died too. Quote:
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And if possible, we should hold our votes. This will probably be a little difficult at least to Brinn, but if possible, try? And if there's even one innocent voting another innocent, vote the same innocent. Hey, what about Valier coming aggressively out as a seer in her first post tomorrow and thereby judging Menel a liar? ** We must choose a kill who won't be protected, and that's the most important thing right now. Ka. She's creepy. I get the impression she's trusting me but at the same time knows my role and is chuckling by herself while posting... Her distrust in Menel is a good thing. Could she be a cobbler? Why am I seeing cobblers everywhere? I see I was traumatized by tp's game... If you guys want to kill her, I have nothing against it. Caber. I think we might have chances to get him lynched. He's been rather suspected anyway. Menel. He's not believed by everyone. I wouldn't be surprised to find him protected tonight... Unless the other ranger doesn't trust him. I'm just trying to figure out what killing him would mean to Valier. We must bear in mind that Lommy said she's not an ordo, and that could point either at her being Lommy's fellow or a randomly chosen person... I think, though, that it'd be better if we didn't draw too much attention to their trial day team now. Kath. I'd actually prefer killing her at the moment. She lists Lommy, Valier, Cab and Ka as wolves - everybody except Ka have been somewhat suspected. We could stir up some discussion tomorrow why she was killed, and the kill wouldn't leave too many tracks back to us. Naria. I trust Val's judgement of her more than my own. I'm alright with killing her, though I think it would be better if we managed to kill a gifted tonight. Azaelia. Would be a good kill no one expects. But on the other hand, I guess it'd be possible to lynch her. She suggested voting for Nog but voted Cab instead. She could be seen as a possible threat for Valier, but if we would subtly frame Cab, she might be a good choice. What do you think, especially Brinn, whom killing her probably concerns the most? Isabell. I guess Rikae's role is told only to Nog, so it doesn't really matter? Anyway, if the villagers assume Rikae was a wolf, the ranger might think we'll be after Izzie tonight and protect her. I don't think she's too big a threat for me at the moment, I guess I'm considered pretty innocent in general. ** So, some kind of a strategy would be useful for tomorrow as well. I think we need a way to inform one another whom we consider a nice lynchee... Anything permanent can't be decided now since we don't know if there are gifteds who want to have a say on tomorrow's happenings. So what about the following: the first person we mention in a post that has a Sting icon (the same as in the title of my PM) in its title is the one we'd like to get lynched? Or would the villagers realise what we are doing? ** I'll email Lommy the PMs that were sent while her inbox was full. ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-25 10:39 Title : hi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think we should kill Kath maybe tonight...who of us is going to send our kill to Volo? I think it needs to be in an hour before the deadline. I can send it...but who r we killing? ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 10:51 Title : Re: Hey ho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Maybe Lommy should also reveal Valier is a wolf. Since everyone knows she's evil, I doubt they'd pay any attention. Do you think they'd assume Lommy would by lying...or is this too risky? Valier, I agree with Aganzir, don't come forward as a gifted unless you seriously suspect someone has dreamt of you. Btw, I think Lommy, you should protect yourself toNight. It's a risk, but chances are that people will assume you chose the Day and won't bother to try to lynch you. Quote:
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As for the kill: While I agree Rikae seemed cobblerish, there's still a chance we could be wrong. If Izzy is a seer, she could become quite dangerous. The only worry about picking her is that she may be protected. I'd be happy to kill Kath, but I worry how Sally will look afterwards since a lot of people assume Gil was innocent... Naria would be the safest choice...she may not be a gifted, but she might make McCaber more lynchable. Quote:
I'm not going to have time to reply to any more PMs before the deadline...so this'll be my last one for toNight. Whoever you choose to kill, pick well. And good luck! -Brinn ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-25 11:02 Title : vote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just got a call from my boss...I have to work earlier than I thought. I won't be able to send in our vote. I am hoping one of you will be on before the deadline to send it. I say kill either Kath or Naria. Whoever is around then, kill whoever you think would be good. there is 3 hours left before deadline, whoever sends in the vote, pm us and let us all know. Good luck today ladies!! ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 11:33 Title : Re: vote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
I'm currently working with a longer PM, you should get it soon. ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 11:58 Title : Buenas Noches, mis amigas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm so sorry it took this long for me to gather myself and actually write you something. Anyway, I'm here now. If Volo says no one will know which protection I choose, I will take Night just to be sure, if he says people will know it, I'll say Day. I think someone of you should say it aloud that there's no use lynching me since I'm immortal. It needs to be stated early. Anyway, as soon as one single innocent votes another, we can jump on the wagon (provided that none of us has voted) and win the game. And I suggest that if a Defender comes forward, some of you comes out as a Defender as well and challenges the claim or something like that. The most important thing is that we shouldn't let the Defenders get a grasp on the village. Don't "trust" revealing gifteds too easily, if at all. Gifted McCaber should be challenged or discredited immediately and made an easy lynch. Agreed? As for me, don't trust a thing I say, except my vote. I will try to cause as much chaos as I can. If I for some odd reason, want to say something serious to you, I will use use the pint icon in the post and the phrase that is true will include the word "kebab". Ok? Quote:
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I think killing Kath might be a good idea - she's very smart (her posting yesterDay freaked me out) and probably a gifted - BUT I'm afraid she's protected. Thus I'd rather pick someone else. Naria won't be protected, but if she's relatively probably an ordo, we should consider before killing her. Zali has managed to shake off most of the suspicion against her, but probably not enough to be protected by the seer. Also, she might very well be a gifted. I think killing her might be the smartest move. Izzie then... I can't see why you all think she might be a seer. I'd rather consider Rikae cobbler and her ordo, but... Menel must be left alive both because he might be protected and because he will cause confusion toMorrow. McCaber won't be protected and is probably gifted, but he's also a good lynch... so maybe not him. In short, I think killing Zali is the best option, but others aren't that bad either. -Lommy ================================================== ============================== From : Aganzir To : Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 12:17 Title : I'm here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If there's another guardian, he'll know after this night that Lommy was protected (if you choose that). And then there's a risk he reveals himself and says "Let's lynch Lommy." The best I can come up with, was this situation to occur, is to remind everybody that the wolves have a chance to win today if there's an innocent lynch or no lynch at all, given that we can't be sure about Rikae's guilt - therefore there are chances that it's a gaurdian who's speaking there (gaur means a wolf in Sindarin, I believe ). Quote:
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Are the codes decided last night still valid? So if Valier says everyone's going crazy we start a bandwagon against her and if any of us wants to start the bandwagon against her she just refers to her own horoscope? Are there any other things we should have a chance to speak about? ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 12:29 Title : Re: Buenas Noches, mis amigas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Speaking of lovers, if we can find them today and lynch one of them, we win at the end of the Day. Probably won't have that kind of luck though. Rikae cobbler seems indeed very possible. Either way, it saved us a death in the pack and so I'm happy she was Noggie's pick. I'm all for picking Zali. I'd really like to not kill Kath, not only because it would make me look bad, but because I think she trusts me, at least a smidge. At the same time though, she could be a seer who is playing it safe until she's figured out for certain that I'm wolfie. Okay I need to send this real quick. My inbox is full, so I'm cleaning it out as soon as I send this message. I have to leave in about 15 minutes or less, so you ladies sending in the kill can pick whoever you choose and I should be pretty happy with it. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 12:37 Title : Re: I'm here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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Haha. Very snazzy. Okay I like it indeed, so if one of us needs to communicate during the day, we can do it like that. Sorry kind of rushed right now, but wanted to reply to Agan's PM real quick before I left. I'll check my messages before I leave but if there's any response at all it'll basically be "yeah-huh, nuh-uh" etc. And remember my lovely wolfiekinses, it's possible for us to win toDay and do so with no wolf casualties. If at all possible, let's strive for that. P.S. If anyone thinks my Noggie-Rikae lover plot is valid, we can definitely use the fact that Val got the PM about him to our advantage. Okay, I'm out! Back around four hours into the Day. ~~Sally~~ ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : satansaloser2005 Date : 2008-01-25 12:38 Title : Lovers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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I think saying that there are lovers was a joke from Volo's part - that's his sense of humour. In his last game there were secret lovers, one of whom being a secret cobbler... Lommy knows more about that. The problem is that Rikae was so vocally for lynching Nog, which she wouldn't have done if it had meant her death also. But that was just a wonderful idea anyway. I don't know if Lommy should suggest that when she comes with Nog's role? If any of us said it, it would probably draw some negative attention to us. Quote:
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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Ah, but you're good at being evil too, as we can plainly see! I'm all for gloating as well, but the only ones here are our fellows. Pity really. Well, I am in need of some sustenance (aka I'm starving!) so I'll be back in about an hour or so. Well done my lupine ladies!
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Nicely done ladies! I was indeed the cobbler. My investigations revealed that Roa was a werewolf (I felt bad after hearing that) and that Legate was indeed innocent.
I see I was just suspicious enough to be lynched at the right time. I like it when a plan comes together like that. This was my first werewolf game here, but I've played it many a time with friends and read through a good amount of the games here. Thanks for making it a good one.
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01-26-2008, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Oh gosh, I was so sure you were a seer or some other nasty thing.
 And I actually felt almost bad lynching you! That was just wonderfully played.
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01-26-2008, 03:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
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McCaber, you were awesome.
Sally, thank you so much for saving and posting those! However, it seems you've posted one PM of mine twice and marked the change of Night incorrectly... but those are minor details...I will write a longer ramble about my feelings/thoughts/misfortunes later, so watch out... 
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01-26-2008, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Thanks, ladies. Just goes to show that even a newb knows what's up from time to time.
Eat that, village! Boo-yah! Who's the cobbler? I'm the cobbler! Ok, celebration over.
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01-26-2008, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Some thoughts
Thanks to Volo for the game. The idea was interesting but too unbalanced, I think. It took only one mis-lynch and suddenly a game that looked impossible to win became impossible to lose.
But the narrations were funny (thanks also to Leggie). I'm sorry about my trial day, I wasn't lying low deliberately or anything, I was just so unbelievably tired that I didn't quite have the energy to post anything. Thanks for my wolfy team. Despite the early losses we managed quite well, and, as Lommy put it, we had a great team spirit and hilarious discussions. By the way, I've been a wolf in half of the games I've played now (and a cobbler once). Quite nice. I'll post more when I know all the roles & something else occurs to me.
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01-26-2008, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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I made a whoopsie? No problem I shall fix. Soon as I figure out what was wrong....lol
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01-26-2008, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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I assume that everyone is able to post since the game is over. Don't have much to say.
Great concept on the game Volo, and thanks for hosting!! Congrats wolves on a victory!! .... yet the overabundance of gloating leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth.
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Toast to (us) wolves! *tosses THE little green hat*
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(two, that is)Thanks for the game. Enjoyed it.
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01-26-2008, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth
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Well, l may have been a seer who not only got a hunter lynched, but got herself killed in the process, but at least I can take comfort in one thing:
I knew who almost all of the wolves were. On day 0.7, I told Mac my predictions from the trial days, and they were: Valier McCaber (oops) Aganzir Lommy Sally Azaelia (also oops) Greenie Unfortunately, I dreamt of Lommy on Night 1, because I thought when Volo said he would tell the seer whether the person was innocent, he meant "ordo or gifted" as innocent, and I figured Lommy had to be either gifted or a wolf. When I got the answer, I found that Volo meant "ordo" by "innocent", so my dream was pretty much wasted when Volo told me "Lommy is not an ordo." He also told me it was interesting that I chose her, though, so when Lommy "revealed" as the seer, I suddenly thought "that's why he said it was interesting! I dreamt of the other seer!" - and therefore, I tried to act in such a way as to protect her if she was the seer, while still getting her killed as a wolf. Unfortunately, Nogrod didn't cooperate - actually, his threats toward the end of day 1 had me almost totally convinced he was the wolf. Oh well - good game everyone, and my apologies to the village for blundering the way I did...
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01-26-2008, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the great beauty
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Personally I don't think the game was unbalanced, on the contrary, I really liked the way it worked out. Of course, it may look different through the eyes of the mod, but I think that there were no obvious flaws here unlike in the first game I modded (WW32). Although I didn't forsee it, it now seems that this was an extremely demanding game. I feel bad for having "scared off" three players in midgame. My original idea was to turn a game completely wrong-way round and include a great big lot of Wolves. Soon I understood that it would need many Gifteds to balance it up. They had to be modified of course, not to cause nasty situations such as a Seer finding out everybody's roles in just a few Nights or the Rangers protecting the Seer in turns. After a few test-games with a die and cards I decided on 3 Defenders, 2 Protectors, 1 Guardian and 1 Cousellor. That was why the real game didn't work so well. Even though one can't take everything into account with just a die and cards (such as "Seer reveals", "Wolf also reveals" and "Wolf is believed") I got it somehow balanced. Well the problem was that I assumed that everybody would participate at least moderately. And so even allowing players to choose on which day they would play their trial Day. That didn't solve everything - like you know. Another factor I didn't forsee was that the Innocents (yes, I regard an "Innocent" the same as an "Ordo") would be more prone to get lynched for participating less and vigorously fighting for their lives even if it meant lynching a possible Gifted. And then again, the roles turned out like that... (I'll reveal them after I've written a narration) In most cases it became a fight between Wolves and Specials. As a mod and a Volo, things like Day1 seemed impossible. My personal experience including posing a Seer as a Wolf and being a Seer when Mac posed a Wolf. (If you remember a game where a Wolf revealed before a Gifted, please tell me.) At the beginning of stage2 I was very happy for having the game balanced. Both the Wolves and the goodies felt like they were in a tight spot and overpowered by the others. It could have ended either way, and even though Day1 had a lot of effect, it could still went either way after that. But not after what did happen!  In conclusion, I think that this kind of game would work out really well if all players had the time to participate and used it. It might be unreal, as this was a demanding game, especially as it was the first try. But that is exactly what I like in experimental games - there are no ready models what-so-ever, it can go any way and one just has to make crazy theories at times. The concept of WW32 didn't work out well and although we did come to good ideas about improving it, I lost interest in it. It may be that I'll try to mod a new version of it, but not soon. This game however looked better. Please, help me improve it and give your thoughts! Even though I defend the rules now, I'm not too blind to deny faults. ----------~~ I'll post more thoughts on this actual game later, after I've read the thread again. It may take some time. EDIT: Xd with Lily and Rikae |
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01-26-2008, 05:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Mahahahaha!!! I can't believe it!! We actually won? SWEET!! great game had by everyone!! I was sure I was going to be lynched today.
Great concept Volo, I loved the trial days, they were fun. I would like to say sorry to Nogrod.....just cause. he'll never trust me again!! I just had to add that we as a team did a lot of chatting and scheming, I would get home to a full Inbox, every night. The funniest things were the codes we had....We actually used a few, I laughed so hard when I saw them in my fellow Wolfie's' posts.
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I thought it to be interesting, because it felt much more logical to me that the Defender would dream of the player who played on the same trial Day as he/she did. This might actually be one of my blunders, because I hadn't thought of this before stage1 was at its end. Now that I think of it, another blunder was - you don't even know this yet - letting the Guardian take somebody with him/her if he/she died during stage1. I told Nogrod that he could kill somebody if he got killed that Day, since it seemed fair. I think I forgot to mention that could kill only either Lommy or Might. Anyway, later I thought that it wasn't fair, because it was too different from what the other Specials could do. EDIT: Xd with Valier. Ok, now on the narration. |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves
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But I'd blame the stars as well. There was not a single piece of luck coming our way. I mean had it been a normal game after the trials we might have stood a chance to fight back even with the zero-odds we had (five wolves around) but all the rest of the modifications of the rules sealed it (the non-revealment of the roles, the immunity-factor...). Well not all as there was that luck-factor that went even further any wolf could have hoped for in her wildest dreams. I was probably 15 seconds late in the end of Day1 because I wrote a short sentence for anyone coming after me in the last minute - and mainly to pressure The Ka who had defended Rikae to make the right choice (and she missed the deadline!). I had checked the thread and there was nothing but when I submitted my vote McCaber had beaten me... You couldn't have had a better timing! *bows* Had it been the other way around the game would have taken a totally new direction. But yes it was a lot of fun indeed! So sad it ended this quickly. In practise I was lynched on Day1. So this was my third Day1 lynch in a row... If I miss one game someday who are you going to lynch or suspect then?
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01-26-2008, 05:43 PM
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Immunity-factor. Well, it could have worked for a Defender or anybody just as well. Aganzir, said that it was just brought unnecessory complications - by now I might agree. It makes the game only more unbalanced, because only a trusted person will be let to take the immortality, in this case Lommy was trusted by her fellow Wolves. |
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01-26-2008, 05:49 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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Volo: I really loved the idea of trial Days but the practise of them was very bad on too many Days. I do agree with you that it was the uneven amount of participation that made them so terrible at times. I hope that at least some people see now after this experience that not taking part is an unsporty way to play. It kind of was highlighted in the trials but the same mechanics get even more troublesome in a normal Day where there just are so many people of whom you can't say anything about that people regularly tend to let them through... which is kind of wise looking at the odds but bad gamewise.
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01-26-2008, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams
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Well it was a shame we were so utterly defeated but I have to say that the wolves were incredibly lucky there were so many of them as you were the worst bunch of secret-keepers ever!
The only one I never pegged was Aganzir who is a tricksy fiend.I'm gutted though that I didn't reveal toDay. I dreamt of Sally last Night and could have bagged us another wolf and possibly another Day. See, this is why I should not be a Seer! Three games of disaster.
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01-26-2008, 05:58 PM
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Volo: The non-revealment of the roles makes the game practically unwinnable (a slight exaggeration) for the villagers as the wolves are the only ones who know where the game stands.
But that notwithstanding I'd rather say that your game was kind of "winner takes it all" -type of game where whichever side gained the upper hand in the trials was heading for a triumph... at least if that winning side after the trials were the wolves. So I'd say the rules generally favoured the wolves (with no roles revealed publicly no one could believe anything anyone said or if someone contested someone else's revealment of a dead person's role - and even if people then chose between contesting claims no one would know whether they had it right or not) but with this particular game there was this luck as well that just played for the one side...
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01-26-2008, 06:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
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If it comforts you at all, I don't think I played particularly well.
On Day0 I think I was doing good enough job on trying to look innocent, but managed to attract more suspicion than I usually do as an innocent. As to my fellow-wolf spotting that Day, well, it was disastrous... Brinniel and Roa were the only ones of my fellows I really suspected and Aganzir and Greenie had me convinced of their innocnce. I could also have sworn after Day0 that Nogrod and Legate are wolves. In fact, I think I spotted something that seemed very wolvish to me in Nogrod's posts on Day0 but didn't bring it up then because I thought I would rather not add suspicion against a probable fellow. So all in all, not very well done...Being pitted against Nogrod on the trial Day was a nightmare... It's not a nice place for any wolf and especially not for a wolf who lived and played under the very same roof and on the very same computer with him the whole trial Day. And then TM had to appear and mess it all up by glowing with innocnce.As for Day1... Well, I was rather desperate and I was aiming to cause confusion, maybe ahave a few poor souls believe me and most importantly get Nogrod lynched and die in the attempt. I was not hoping to have anyone really convinced - nor survive the Day. So the outcome was just hilarious. As for getting the immortality... I was trying to vote so that I might get it but it was 90% pure luck from my part still. The part which I'm proud of is making rather crazy plans at Night and having a lot of fun and being totally silly on Day2 - for example, that lovers fabrication with the symbolics and the desperate attempt of "hunted by your love" (haunted, of course, is what most lyrics say). By the way, I hope no one minded me calling people names and dissing them... I figured the ones I "insulted" had enough sense of humour not to take it seriously... And I maybe have to add that you could have lynched me had you tried, for I wanted to play it safe in case there was another guardian and decided to be protected for the Night.
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Wow! Good game, all.
I really regret that I wound up having less time than I'd hoped to, and thus didn't participate as much as I would have liked. Well played, Brinniel, in particular. I'd been going along thinking you were a gifted by default...Sorry, Groin.  I know I didn't play particularly well. I was just trying to get back into the swing of things--I hadn't played in over a year, and had evidently forgotten much of what I had learned. Better luck next time, right? *sigh* This was probably the most confusing game I've ever played--it was really hard not even knowing where we stood. But it was fun, and I FINALLY got my WW fix.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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You can't be too serious with these roles, this game is supposed to be as fun as it is mind twisting. Besides, it is fun in a way playing with suspicion, which all of you, seasoned or not did very well. No use in saying anything now, Volo is going to write us another lovely story and I'd rather see it there than here. *Takes a lavish bow and toasts to all* This was an amazing game, I particularly enjoyed everyone's company. It was lovely to play of course again with Nogrod and Lommy and others, but is was also a pleasure playing with Aganzir and others. You were brilliant darling, and I admire the head on your shoulders. Oh and about the chuckling while posting thing, yes I did that often. Only because this game as a whole was amazingly amusing and never a real dull moment. Especially Volo's write ups and the whole mini martyr-drama that we all had. Really, I kept my ideas up in the air and probably should have done more work here, and in RL, but eh, what's the fun in that? I think it is neat that there is somewhat of an advantage for the wolves, it makes reasoning a bit more, I dunno, less obvious and more fuzzy? Though, like Azaelia has said, it was nice to get back in the swing of things. I haven't played in nearly a year either, and with that I had to leave early anyways. Once again, it was awesome playing with all of you, thanks for helping with the best of freetime drainers and distractions! It helped my sanity. Sorry for being too bubbly as of now, my friend's 18th birthday along with other things was today, and we took her out for a lovely time with much sugar, some gambling, coffee and other things of the drinking variety. So, I'm a little happy right now, but still glad to have had a chance to play with everyone! I actually learned some more things this WW time around. Hope to play with all of you soon again. ~ THE greatful and happily jittery Ka
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Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull.
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Oh wow....I got back from Bruges an hour ago and am a bit sad I had to miss this wonderful ending. But still, we won! I just finished reading the thread and I admit I was laughing all the way through Day 2.
I only apologise for not be around as much as I usually am. This game started later than I thought it would when I first signed up; I wasn't planning to play while studying abroad, but at the same time this game looked too fun to back out. Day 0 I had no idea how I should play...so I just went with the first thoughts that came to me. It worked since it made me look both innocent and a little suspicious...and boy was I happy to discover two of the people who found me slightly suspicious were actually wolves. Day 0.6 I played as innocently as possible. I decided to say outright which players looked most suspicious from the previous Days...making my opinions clear would make me less suspicious and besides, I've been very wrong in spotting werewolves in the past. That worked as well because even though I ended up suspecting a fellow teammate, I was able to use that suspicion to get Nogrod lynched on Day1. On Day 2, my participation was extremely limited since I was traveling to somewhere without internet. But I did manage to fit in one our wolf "codes" in a post in an attempt to get the bandwagon against McCaber going. I'm glad it worked...and it makes it so much sweeter that McCaber was a cobbler so willing to sacrifice himself. So you think we could find out who all the Defenders dreamt of (still surprised there were actually three), the Protecters protected, and so on? I'm really interested to know.. As for the game, I enjoyed it a lot. I think the main reason it was unbalanced was because during the trial Days there was often a person who participated significantly less than others. In my eyes, those people seemed so obviously innocent...yet they were lynched just because they didn't say anything. Plus, if the other two players didn't vote for that one person it'd just be a tie. While I liked the one of each, perhaps the trial Days should've had more people (maybe 5) so that the people who chose not to participate as much or at all wouldn't have had such an effect on the rest of the game. Also, while it was a lot of fun for us wolves to have the roles unknown during Stage 2, I can see it making the game unbalanced...so perhaps anyone lynched after Stage 1 should have their roles revealed in narrations. A big thanks to my fellow wolves who I had such a fun time plotting with. All of us were equally involved and my inbox filled up multiple times. I actually wish it could've lasted longer I enjoyed it so much. I was never planning to WW while studying abroad and now that I have had a sample of it, I know it is way too stressful to do both. So while it's going to be hard since I'm way addicted, I'm not going to WW again until May. But I'm glad I got to end with such a great game. I was hoping for one big win (something I was unable to do for six months) before taking my three month break...and I got it. Not to mention...this is the first game I have not died in. A big thanks to Volo for letting me take part in this game so that'd I'd have the opportunity to go off with a bang. Okay, I'm really tired so any more thoughts I have about the game will just have to come later...
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Well, folks, I must say this was an interesting game, in any case, though unfortunately short for me (Menel, I am waiting for you to apologize). Congratulations to all the Wolves & McCobbler who did really well for a first-timer.
As to the game balance, the output of the trials, whatever the case, is really, really much random. It can bring many information for the further game - but only for the further game, and that may mean already seven wolves in the village. I think the number is still somewhat unbalanced, as there is a real chance of having seven wolves in the village and thus, them winning right on Day 1. Just look at how many of them there were this time. I would at least, for example, use the Cobbler in one group instead of a Wolf, so, there will be one Ordo-Gifted-Cobbler group and there will be no Ordo-Cobbler-Wolf group (though, as it showed even this time, the cobbler does not necessarily have to mean bonus for the wolves, but the point is in making the number of wolves lesser). Another thing I would like to emphasise is the participation. Nogrod already mentioned that here, but let me say it again: especially in a game like this, it is vital that everyone posts more at least during the trials, because otherwise, it ends with total randomness. And one word for all future Mods - the remark about Rikae's dream pointed that out to me. Every Mod should double- (if not even quadruple or more) check whether all his rules are clear, factual, precise and unambiguous. The rules are supposed to be more sort of a legal document, and the terms should be exact. As to WW32, I didn't see it such problematic, if you ask me, I think it was less unbalanced than this one. The only problem there was, as far as I remember, only the role of the Shade, who was by logic on the side of the Innocents (he would choose that by logic). But then he was just one more Gifted for the Village - otherwise, no problem.
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