Tol-in-Gaurhoth Junior

[Gil-Galad]

actually Eonwe has something there... now you got me thinking of Guilds for the village... 'Hunter Guild' , 'Guardian Guild' all are secret of course, it would be able to bring in more people to play and also make it more interesting...

[Eonwe]

hmmmm....i was wondering. is there any way to incorperate some more independent stratagies into werewolf? i like the sound of guild, gil-galad. it would be nice if you could make different alliances throughout the game, but i don't know how you could keep them private so the wolves wouldn't nip htem in the bud. i've always wished werewolf (or mafia, before i came to BD's) could be a little more than a bunch of ordo's randomly lynching peole. granted that's not what it is, but it seems like that sometimes, especialy when you're playing an oral game. forums make it allot more fun, but still i can't help feeling kind of helpless/random throughout.

[Gurthang]

Well, these ideas all sound fun, but they aren't really Werewolf in essence. The heart is just wolves versus villagers. Adding so much more just confuses the game, and in the end it is nowhere near the actual game. But, if people like the new things, try them anyway. It's whatever the players want.

Gil, putting so many wolves in the game wouldn't necessarily mean more people. You could just make all the villagers have a special role. For instance:

6 wolves (2 teams of 3)
3 rangers
3 hunters
2 seers

And maybe let the rangers PM so they can cordinate their protection. This would give the villagers more chance for staying alive, and the extra hunter(plus the other wolf team) ups the chance that the wolves will die each night.

The only problem we had with the multiple kills each night was that the village died so quickly. Granted, in WWIIX, the villagers did win, but it was because they got a wolf Day 1, and had the other two within 4 days. The other game with a Beorning had the bear dead on Day two. My point is that, with so many wolves, the double nightly killings are likely to last the whole game, and that's something the village will probably not survive.

Oh, and where is Perky? Have we decided to skip him?

[Glirdan]

The other game with a Beorning had the bear dead on Day two.

I'll correct you on that there Gurthang. It was Day 3 or 4 by the time I got lynched. Or at least I think it was, you could be right.

As for your idea there. I like that. Why don't we have the Hunters and Seers contact each other as well, that way, they have more chance of pinning the Wolves instead of wasting a dream on each other. And the Hunters won't be able to pick the same person and then they'd know who's innocent as well.

Glad to see that some of you like my idea of rotating the games a bit. That way, in the gang WW and Mith's one day WW, we'd be able to have a lot of people involved and we should allow double lynches, but no mass lynches. And then if we have enought player's we could have all the roles in one game. We could have the Wolves, Ranger, Hunter, Seer, Cobbler, Bear, Beorning, Mytho, Guardian and any other I missed out, but I think we should reserve something like that for a once in a year annual event. Maybe starting sometime in Feburary because semster two begin for us around then and we won't be to busy with all the hustle and bustle of the holidays. So what do you guys think of that idea?

[Gurthang]

I'll correct you on that there Gurthang. It was Day 3 or 4 by the time I got lynched.

Oh, yes... sorry. :rolleyes: I didn't go back to check. I just remember it being pretty early in the game.

All this talk is exhausting me... what I really want to know is when the next game is starting! :D

[Sleepy Ranger]

All this talk is exhausting me... what I really want to know is when the next game is starting! :D

Yub, yub commander. When is the next game scheduled?
And also I don't know if this is a good idea or not but I thought up another role since the villagers have been having a hard time.

Twin- The twin is the twin of any person (other than an ordinary) in the game. The twin knows what the other person is but the other person does not know who the twin is. The twin's sibling will be picked at random and every night the twin is informed of who the sibling has picked. (If the sibling is the Ranger then the Twin will be aware of who is being defended. If the sibling is the Seer then the Twin will be aware who the dream is of but NOT what the dreamed person is. With the Hunter and the Wolf you just get the name.)

Opinions?

[Thinlómien]

Oh, and where is Perky? Have we decided to skip him?
I think this is just visioning for a game to come someday; I suppose Perky's game is the nxt to come.

[Mithalwen]

Now, if you do start this Gil, we'll have to work out a schedule because I really like Mith's idea of having a one day WW game.

Hang on a minute... I wasn't proposing a onedayer for my game here... I was thinking of that for Christmas holidays when lengthy exposure to people I avoid the rest of the year will put murderous thoughts in my heart....

[Glirdan]

Ah, but see, the problem with that is the Christmas holidays are a really busy time for me and I'd really like to play in it and I wouldn't be able to do that at Christmas time.

As for the next game, I think it's safe to say that we will not be having another WW game until at least December or January just because of the fact that a lot of people are taking breaks from the game. So, how about we say that the next game won't be for a few weeks, which give Perky (if he comes back by then) or Kitanna to plan for their games. You can still use this thread for disscussion about the gang WW game and Mith's one day idea. So, please continue with the disscussing.

[Gil-Galad]

thats why i was thinking we could have extra villagers to deal with the double wolves...or we could have the wolf gangs kil levery other night

[Glirdan]

Hmmmm... That would make things a little easier though, would it not? Unless you mean one gang attacks on Night 2 and then the other on Night 3? Is that what you mean? Because if not, that means the Seer would have more of a chance of being able to pin all 6 Wolves which would make it slightly easier. Like I said Gil, give us all the information you have and we can all work it out together, or you can just ask some of us individually. I'm more than willing to help. ;)

[Glirdan]

Ok, well I've been doing some research. Now, before I give out the results to my research, here's a list of those participating in Spawn's game.

Wayne
Eonwe
Menel
tar
Wilwa
Kitanna
Kuru
lmp
Celuien
Lalaith
Firefoot
Bergil
Kath
Anguirel
and myself

and here's a list of people who won't be palying for a little while before, after and in this game

Boro
morm
Fea
Form
Alca
Cailin
Enca
SpM
Gurth(by the looks of things anyway)
Mith
TGWBS
Mister Underhill

and the following people have shown intrest in playing that game

Rune
Crombie

As you can see, a lot of people won't be joining and there's a list of people who already signed up. Now, because of that, I have a suggestion. We postpone starting a new game for a little while. Besides, there wouldn't be a whole lot of people palying the game anyway. So, I say we wait a little. Then I say we get Perky back in here so he can mod. If he doesn't, he will be moved back a place.= and Kitanna will take his place. If he does, then everything's fine and dandy. Now, I hear that in order for Gil to start his game, at Mith and Perky have to mod there's. Now here's a suggestion, not just for those who want to play in the WWJ games, but for everyone out there. We move Mith's game up for somtime before or shortly after Winter Holidays. Then, Gil can start his game, which hopefully everyone will be in. Me and him are working the little kinks out in the game. So, by then, most of it should be figured out.

Now I know that was really long, but it was all necessary. Anyway, give me your thoughts.

[Gil-Galad]

one of those kinks is debating either to half the wolf-gang kill every other night or twice a night, if we go with twice a night that would involve more people so the villagers don't get over killed...

[Thinlómien]

If the wolves kill every second night (=take truns with each other gangs), the game may move on too slowly; it'd be very difficult to solve who are wolves; the first hints would probably pop up as late as on the third day, or even later. And also, if the gangs "take truns" isn't the other gang in a better position....?

[Mithalwen]

I could only realistically do a one day game at the time I suggested. I do not know where I will be working after Christmas so if I don't get a chance to mod a normal game before then I may have to pull out.

[Gil-Galad]

like i said thin, were still working out the kinks

[Glirdan]

Yes we are. As far as I know, that's the only serious kink that we need to worry about for the time being.

As for my suggestion on postponing the game, what are your thoughts? Do you still want to have a small game? If so, the mod will have to be either Perky or whoever is supposed to go after Kitanna (she can't mod because she's in Spawn's game and it was decided that the mod can't be in a game and modding at the same time).

Mith, as long as it isn't the weekend of the 23, I'm okay.

[Thinlómien]

like i said thin, were still working out the kinks
...and I'm helping you to do it :)

[Gurthang]

Hey, I'm back and willing to play, if we can get enough people together. Maybe we could do a game with, oh, 8 people and 2 wolves? I think we could get enough for that, at least.

But is Perky around to mod? And would he be willing to do a game that small?

[Kitanna]

Hey, I'm back and willing to play, if we can get enough people together. Maybe we could do a game with, oh, 8 people and 2 wolves? I think we could get enough for that, at least.

But is Perky around to mod? And would he be willing to do a game that small?

The only problem, in my mind at least, with a game that small is all the fun involved with having a seer is lost.
But it appears Perky is MIA. I would mod now, but that would mean I'd have to drop out of Spawn's game. But when that is over if Perky still hasn't appeared I will start the sign up for WWJ III.

[Glirdan]

That's a good idea Kitanna. So, we wait. And as I said, I won't be playing any game until after the 26th. This is my last game for the next few weeks.

[Kitanna]

I'm hoping though the game can start and end before the week on Nov. 20 or else I may have some problems modding it.

EDIT: Thinking realistically the chances of me modding the next WWJ game before are very slim. Unless Spawn's game ends after four days. I'll just have to wait and see I suppose.

[Boromir88]

I'm good for a game up until Nov. 22nd, I believe. So, if you're thinking about starting a WW Junior soon, I can join in, as long as it ends before that Thanksgiving Week (Tuesday the actual day I believe).

[Thinlómien]

I would like to join also. :)
(Just if I haven't made it clear enough before.)

[Plastic_Panda]

if i can, i would also like to join.

[Gil-Galad]

sign me up too i guess...

[Kitanna]

So looking at spawn's game, unless it ends today I won't be able to start the new WWJ game until Nov. 27. So if someone wants to go ahead and I'll mod the one after that or if people just want to wait...

[Sleepy Ranger]

I'd join but I'll be busy with the MEFWC for a while and anyway I don't think theres a mod at the moment.

[Thinlómien]

So there's no one to mod the game? I thought there were huge queues for modding the games. I'm sure that there's someone who wants and has time to mod a WWJ game.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I'll mod the game then... :)
But I'll need a back up mod to do all the posting for me because of time-zones. I'll write out all the kills and lynchings because I'm awesome! :D

[The Saucepan Man]

I think that it would be best to keep the games running simultaneously, so that people have a choice of which game to play and one can serve as an "overspill" if the other gets filled quickly. WW13 should be over in a day or two at the most, so best to wait 'til then before starting to recruit.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I think that it would be best to keep the games running simultaneously, so that people have a choice of which game to play and one can serve as an "overspill" if the other gets filled quickly. WW13 should be over in a day or two at the most, so best to wait 'til then before starting to recruit.

I believe I shall leave modding up to whoever wishes to be mod. I only decided to do it since nobody else came forward but with the end of WW13 there should be many people stepping forward to fill the mod's shoes. :)

Maybe we shall have Sleepy's tale from Gilead some other day.

[Mithalwen]

So far, it goes Perky, Kitanna, Gil and now Mith. Sorry for forgetting you Kitanna. But you'll get your chance. So we will wait and see if Perky has the chance to mod. If not, Kitanna will take over. Sound good?

*coughs*

I only said I couldn't be certain of my availability after Christmas.

But I am prepared to take the next slot after Sleepy

[Glirdan]

Sleepy, I'm sure you can go ahead and mod. If Perky doesn't come back to take it that is. And i fyou need back up mod, I'll take it, if it's after the 26th.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Sleepy, I'm sure you can go ahead and mod. If Perky doesn't come back to take it that is. And i fyou need back up mod, I'll take it, if it's after the 26th.

Ah, thats lovely then. I'll start the next game after the 26th in that case. :)

[Thinlómien]

Is there any kind of list of players? It has been a while from when most people signed up, so no one knows who could still play...

I'll sign in. (That's the third time when I say that, I s'pose... :) )

[Sleepy Ranger]

Is there any kind of list of players? It has been a while from when most people signed up, so no one knows who could still play...

I'll sign in. (That's the third time when I say that, I s'pose... :) )

No, people will have to re-sign.

Mod - Sleepy
Backup Mod - Glirdan
Players
Thinlomien

[Kitanna]

May I ask how I managed to get booted off the mod list?

[Sleepy Ranger]

May I ask how I managed to get booted off the mod list?

I said I'd do it because nobody else seemed to want. When Saucey said not to start until after WW13, I backed off of the position but then Glirdy said I could go ahead and mod. But if you want to then the position is all yours. :)

[Thinlómien]

May I ask how I managed to get booted off the mod list?
Suppose by being offline? Honestly, I had no idea (=I didn't remember) that you were on the list. Sorry for my part.

edit: cross-posted with Sleepy

[Kitanna]

I said I'd do it because nobody else seemed to want. When Saucey said not to start until after WW13, I backed off of the position but then Glirdy said I could go ahead and mod. But if you want to then the position is all yours. :)
No it's alright, go ahead Sleepy. I'll just grab the spot after you.

[Thinlómien]

So the modding list is
1. Sleepy
2. Kitanna
3. Mithalwen
or something... But in what phase there is the Perky's game and Gil's gang war?

[The Saucepan Man]

I don't think that anyone is lined up to mod the next game of "adult" ( :D ) Werewolf. You could take that spot, Kitanna, when the current game finishes.

[Anguirel]

Saucie, old chap, you think wrong. There are in fact seven mods lined up for the future! I'll come back and post them (should I say us?) here...

[Kitanna]

I don't think that anyone is lined up to mod the next game of "adult" ( :D ) Werewolf. You could take that spot, Kitanna, when the current game finishes.
Really? I thought there was a long waiting list leading all the way into December.

[Anguirel]

I was wrong. There are not seven...but eight!

1. Orominuialwen
2. Gil-Galad
3. Anguirel
4. Mormegil
5. Alcarillo
6. Formendacil
7. Littlemanpoet
8. Celuien

[The Saucepan Man]

Well I knew that if such a bold assertion were wrong, someone would correct me. So I didn't bother checking. :rolleyes: ;)

But weren't you on that list at some point, Kitanna? Or was it just here that you posted your wish to mod?

[Cailín]

I was wrong. There are not seven...but eight!

8. Celuien

Though I am sure it is no insult to be confused with Celuien, it was me who expressed a wish of modding a regular werewolf game, not the frog lady (though I forgive you - we have been regarded as one before, when it comes to werewolves). :p

I'm not quite sure how long the waiting list for the junior games is now - and I don't wish to mod anything before Christmas break anyway - but it might be a good idea to make a single modding list, so we might also break through the prejudice against the junior games. Unless of course, we want the junior / adult distinction to be preserved. I could argue both, so have no real opinion. :rolleyes:

[Anguirel]

I do not accept the blame for the affront to your ladyship! Now, which varlet did I copy and paste this list from...ah-ha...well, I'm not naming names...

[Kitanna]

No, SpM, I was never signed up to be a mod in "adult" werewolf. Just here. Far too afraid of adult WW. ;)

[Mithalwen]

I don't regard this as a "baby" version other that in it seems more flexible. I feel my style of game is now too out of step with the original (although ironically it is closer to the original) and here on the R&D thread, I would have more freedom to indulge my taste for retractable votes, mythomanes and so forth . Which is why I put my name down here and not there.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Ah! Lovely!

Mod - Sleepy
Backup Mod - Glirdan
Players
Thinlomien
Mithalwen

[The Saucepan Man]

Sleepy, would you mind outlining the roles and rules that you propose for your game? I'll be playing in either this game or Oromin's (assuming that she mods the next "adult" game), but I would prefer to know what form each game will take before I commit to one and sign up.

[Glirdan]

Oh my, I'm sorry Kitanna!!! It was my understanding that you wouldn't be able to mod until the 27th. I'm sorry!!!! :(

[Sleepy Ranger]

Sleepy, would you mind outlining the roles and rules that you propose for your game? I'll be playing in either this game or Oromin's (assuming that she mods the next "adult" game), but I would prefer to know what form each game will take before I commit to one and sign up.

Most certainly my dear Saucepanman,
Retraceable Votes,
Double-Lynchings,
Nightly Kills,
Nightly Seer dreams and well the usual stuff.
I haven't decided on the time yet but since theres quite a vast time difference between here and there, if the deadline is after 6pm EST then the death's will have to be posted by Glirdan. (I'll write them though. :))

As for the roles,
3 Wolves,
2 Seers, (if we have enough players. I'll explain how it works below)
1 Ranger,
1 Hunter,
1 Mytho,
Normal Villagers

Heres how the two Seers work. Just like the wolves they contact each other at night and discuss what they think at the end they must decide on ONE person to dream of. If one of the Seer's dies his role isn't yet over because after that ONCE at any time he wants (during night) he may contact the living Seer and reveal the identity of ONE wolf. (The mod will give him any wolves name at random). As in, appearing before the Seer in ghostly form to tell him about his death.

Of course if that doesn't sound like a good idea we'll go with the normal 1 Seer and mayhap add in a Cursed Villager.

[Mithalwen]

Sleepy - When I referred to signing up, I was referring to signing up as a mod... my nerves aren't up to playing at the moment.

[wilwarin538]

Wow Sleepy, that sounds interesting. I personally think it would be a cool idea. :D

But one question. When one of the Seers dies and he can reveal a wolf to the other Seer, can he reveal that wolf to the other Seer the Night right after his death, or does he have to wait a certain amount of Nights?

Anyway, great idea, can't wait to see how that works. ;)

[Sleepy Ranger]

Whenever. He could wait till theres just one wolf left but by then the wolf he knows may be dead, so its a gamble.

[Thinlómien]

I suppose we can't start on 26th, because we just don't have enough players... :(

[Anguirel]

Mithalwen pointed out the absurdity of this situation on the other Tol-in-Gaurhoth thread. I'm signing up, in an attempt to win back my honourable reputation before I mod myself...I hope that helps.

And I like the two Seers idea, Sleepy.

I shouldn't really be doing this...but never mind. Oaths ye have taken!

[Glirdan]

Wow!! At the rate people are siging up for this, I might reconsider being backup mod and being a player instead!! It seems like you really need players. So, if you want, u can get someone else to be backup mod and I'll be a player. If it comes down to a desperate situation I mean.

[Mithalwen]

Oh what the heck...... time to get back on the horse..... I will play if you need me... be nice.... and bear in mind I have a job and no internet at home so my posting will be limited.......

[Glirdan]

This is the mod list for the next little while:

1. Sleepy
Right here (if the game starts soon), there will probably be a pause as everyone will want to be in Gil's Gang Wars game.
2. Kitanna
3. Mithalwen
4. Ww'll put Perky here for the time being. If he's not back by then (which I doubt will end up happening), then whoever wants to mod can take it.

I also can't wait to mod one again, but I don't know when I'll get the chance because I'm thinking of having certain people in it. We'll wait and see thouhg, but I doubt that I'll be modding one for awhile.

[Roa_Aoife]

I'd like to try this game out, if there's still space.

[malkatoj]

I'll play as well, since you're in need of players. (Goodbye, college applications.) Plus, I missed it.

[Glirdan]

Well, I'll do this for Sleepy seeing as I'm still the backup mod.

Mod - Sleepy
Backup Mod - Glirdan
Players
Thin
Mith
Roa
Malka

We still need more players. And our mod needs to come back or I'll give it away to whoevers next on the list.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I'm here, just waiting till we get about 15 players.

[Thinlómien]

This isn't going well, but if we won't be able to start the game so that it ends before Christmas, I won't probably be able to play...

[Márcolië Lamen]

Depending on when this happens I will join, I just can't play (much) 10th-14th, and at this rate you'd need people to have a game at all. If I can work around finals so that I find a way not to distract myself using this, I would play...

[Sleepy Ranger]

Seeing how things are going, I'm delaying the start of the game (wether we get players or not) to the 10th of January. We may start a few days before if everyone is willing but first lets wait till they sign on.

[Roa_Aoife]

Well, I'm fine with whatever happens. Just let me know what you need from me and when.

[Glirdan]

Sounds good to me Sleepy. I just hope you don't need me around that time because my Literacy Test is coming up, along with Exams and Performance Tests.

[Thinlómien]

That's fine with me, actually better than now when there's all this Christmas-mess...

[Gil-Galad]

just to let you know, my game probaly won't be ready till after the holiday break, so don't expect it till next year

[Glirdan]

Well then, if it's ready before Sleepy starts his game, we'll postpone Sleepy's because almost everyone will be palying in yours (I believe). If not, you'll have to wait for Sleepy's game to be over.

[Mithalwen]

Well that makes me doubtful again since I don't know yet where or indeed if I will be working after Christmas...

[Roa_Aoife]

Just so there's no question: whatever game is next, I'm in, whenever it occurs, unless some unforseen event steals me away for the holidays. (my family has a habit of dropping surprise trips in my lap.)

[Glirdan]

Well Mith, I must say, everything has gotten pretty confusing lately, especially for me. That's what participating in musicals does to you. :rolleyes:

[Thinlómien]

THIS THREAD GOES UP.

Is there going to be any game now (in January)? It has been horribly quiet on this thread lately.

[Sleepy Ranger]

THIS THREAD GOES UP.

Is there going to be any game now (in January)? It has been horribly quiet on this thread lately.

Yea... just need people...

[Thinlómien]

Great to see you around, Sleepy.

Then we just sit and wait for players to pop up from nowhere...

[Gil-Galad]

For my game, it will probably be after Sleepy's, i might even merge it with the regular werewolf, but i have devised a new function, the Safety Vote

The Safety Vote basically is that in (maybe) the first 5 days/nights or so, villagers that have not posted at all could be given a saety vote, which is a one time use. allowing them to be saved by being lynched(only lynched). I thought of this mainly because you never know what is going to happen, a family member may be at the hospital, you may have tons of homework or just unable to get to a computer. So to make the game last longer and more funner for the vilalgers, i think that a Safety Vote, if approved by some other people, might be implemented into my game(for sure) and maybe future games.

[Cailín]

Well, I personally would not wish to add anything that might encourage members to be silent. This safety vote can easily be abused on a day that you would normally be under a lot of pressure or suspicion. Sure, there is always something that can come up, but I’d rather treat that as either tough luck or – in case of something more serious – I don’t think your focus would be on the game anyway.

It can be harsh to lose the game due to real life circumstances (and I know, just look at what happened in the phantom’s game), but on the other hand, it can often go wrong due to no (clear) fault of your own and I think it’s in the interest of the quality of the game to keep it fun for the group, not for every separate individual.

But I’ll stop talking now and let you plan your own game!

[Roa_Aoife]

I'm still in for a game whenever one gets started.

[Eonwe]

You can put me down, seeing as the other started without me.

[Gil-Galad]

well i was also thinking for the first day, if this person hasn't said any thing at all, then the safety vote will apply, but if they posted some things then they've entered the game and thus the safety vote no longer apply's to them

[Glirdan]

Well, I rather like the safety vote idea, especially at this time of year. Exams are coming up and there will be people studying like mad for them. But, do what you want, it's your game.

[Gil-Galad]

its mroe if people like it, if they don't, then they won't join my game, so i think that it would be better if it applied to people who haven't posted at all

[Garin]

I'd be up for a game soon, although I'm still involved in one. I think you know what I am talking about Gil, I just can't post about. Sorry.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Mod - Sleepy Ranger
Mod - Glirdan

Players
1. Garin
2. Eonwe
3. Roa_Aoife
4. Thinlomien
5. Anguirel (?)
6. Malkatoj
7. Marcolie (?)

Rules

Retraceable Votes,
Double-Lynchings,
Nightly Kills,
Nightly Seer dreams and well the usual stuff.
I haven't decided on the time yet but since theres quite a vast time difference between here and there, if the deadline is after 6pm EST then the death's will have to be posted by Glirdan. (I'll write them though. )

Roles
3 Wolves,
2 Seers, (if we have enough players.)
1 Ranger,
1 Hunter,
1 Mytho,
Normal Villagers

I'm sending a PM to everyone involved just to check wether they're still in it and also I'm hoping for at least 7 more people.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

If you need more players then count me in, Sleepy. This game has taken too long to get started, too long I say! I'll try and help you recruit if you like. :)

I can be very persuasive... :smokin:


Edit to add: By the way, 2 Seers, a mytho, a ranger and a hunter? Seems like overkill if you ask me! You're going to need lots and lots of players to make that work. Even with lots I'm not sure 2 Seers (with the possibility of 3 Seers) can ever make for a good game.

[Sleepy Ranger]

If you need more players then count me in, Sleepy. This game has taken too long to get started, too long I say! I'll try and help you recruit if you like. :)

I can be very persuasive... :smokin:

Indeed, 'tis an honor to have you aboard Eomer! Any help you're willing to provide shall be accepted and in return you'll get a cookie! :D

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Crikey! A quick reply. Erm, look at my edit. It outlines a concern.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Crikey! A quick reply. Erm, look at my edit. It outlines a concern.

Hmm.... Ok lets get rid of mytho as for the double seer I've already explained it but here it is again :) -

Heres how the two Seers work. Just like the wolves they contact each other at night and discuss what they think at the end they must decide on ONE person to dream of. If one of the Seer's dies his role isn't yet over because after that ONCE at any time he wants (during night) he may contact the living Seer and reveal the identity of ONE wolf. (The mod will give him any wolves name at random). As in, appearing before the Seer in ghostly form to tell him about his death.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The two Seers working like Shiriffs I can accept, but being told the identity of a wolf when one dies?...

Isn't that really unfair on the wolves? It practically ensures that they cannot all survive; plus the idea of the Mod choosing one of them at random strikes me as wrong. The Moderator should not be involved once the game starts, that's how I see it.

Just my thoughts. :p

[Anguirel]

I agree. I like the two Seers, but I think that the dead Seer should continue to be involved in consultation, but not actually do anything...

[Sleepy Ranger]

Yea, guess that wouldn't work too well. I'll get rid off the revealing a wolf thing. :)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I do like the combining of the roles of Seer and Shirrifs. That should be sweet.

Ok, I'll try and hunt down some more victims. Any idea when you want to start the game, Sleepy? As soon as possible?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Yea, I was hoping we could start by next week.

[The Saucepan Man]

I should have my home internet connection back up and running by next Tuesday, so if it starts Tuesday or later, you can count me in.

If there's a Mytho involved, Mithalwen might be persuaded to play ...

And I think that the principle has been established that one should not be playing in two Werewolf games at once (at least on this forum), so Garin's participation should depend upon whether he is still involved in the game currently running or not when recruitment for this one ends.

Not too happy about retractable votes, but I'll go with whatever is decided.

[Eonwe]

hmmm. i ahvn't yet played a game wtih retractable votes. should be interesting, and add great new unchallenged canundrums to teh maze of ideas, suspicions and vendettas taht makes up werewolf.

two seers sounds intersting. im all for it.

for me, somthing like 9 pm or 11 pm would work good as the close of the day.

and i can start when ever. :D

[Thinlómien]

What is 6 pm EST as GMT, does anyone have any idea? (Before that I can't say anuthing about deadlines.)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

6PM EST is 11PM GMT, I think.

It shouldn't matter what time we start as long as Days and Nights are both 24 hours long.

[Thinlómien]

6PM EST is 11PM GMT, I think.

It shouldn't matter what time we start as long as Days and Nights are both 24 hours long.

Thanks Eomer.

That means that it is 1 AM in my time, so I won't be posting around the deadline time. (My mother would probably kill me if I wandered to her room after midnight and start writing with her computer...)

And it matters, because the fiercest debate is always just before the closing up time. Well, I managed with it last time, so I think I will manage this time too :).

[Sleepy Ranger]

6pm EST is 2am my time which is as late as I'm willing to stay up but if the deadline is going to be later than Glirdan will have to do most of the posting.

[Mithalwen]

I should have my home internet connection back up and running by next Tuesday, so if it starts Tuesday or later, you can count me in.

If there's a Mytho involved, Mithalwen might be persuaded to play ...


Not too happy about retractable votes, but I'll go with whatever is decided.

Ah well I like retractable votes too but with the usual provisos re my access, I'll play unless you get a vast number of players (which means it might go on too long (A SpM-like fit of conscientiousness that may provoke the odd Fraser-from-Dad's Army impersonations - "DOOMED!").

[Sleepy Ranger]

Mod - Sleepy Ranger
Mod - Glirdan

Players
1. Garin
2. Eonwe
3. Roa_Aoife
4. Thinlomien
5. Anguirel
6. Eomer of the Rohirrim
7. Saucepanman
8. Mithalwen

Feel free to post your occupations now. We'll be set in Mejis (10 points if you recognize the place) and I have a nice little opening segment in the works for the start of the game. :)

[The Saucepan Man]

Sorry, but my home internet connection is not now going to be up until 24 Jan at the earliest so, unless the game starts after then, I am going to have to pull out.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The way recruitment has been going, it looks as though we might get started in March.

Sleepy, that's far too late! We want you to sleep, don't you know? Make the deadline 10PM your time or whatever. It is your game after all.

[Sleepy Ranger]

The way recruitment has been going, it looks as though we might get started in March.

Sleepy, that's far too late! We want you to sleep, don't you know? Make the deadline 10PM your time or whatever. It is your game after all.

Indeed it is. But yea I guess 11:30 would be a more sane time to keep as the deadline.

[Azaelia of Willowbottom]

Looks like you're having trouble finding people... I'd volunteer, but I'm still involved with the current game of regular Werewolf.

Though if this one gets started after my current game is over, then you could count me in. (I also don't believe I'll last the whole game, as that has only happened to me once, and it was a cruel twist of fate)...\
Normally I wouldn't post something like this because I'd feel selfish and I'd want to give everyone a fair chance, but since it's so small, and needs more people I don't feel too bad about offering my self up as a victim (er...player).

On a somewhat related note, I have been feeling an urge to try modding, so I'd love to mod a WWJ game at some point in the future.

[Glirdan]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold up! Sleepy, in eastern time, rigth? If you are, than make it a sane time like 10:00pm. We have exams after all. Be mindful of that.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold up! Sleepy, in eastern time, rigth? If you are, than make it a sane time like 10:00pm. We have exams after all. Be mindful of that.

I'm not on your side of the ocean, friend.

[Glirdan]

Right.... Which means it's a completely different time than me which means I have some math to do.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Yea! Ka is 11 hours behind me and after some random calculations it'll be uh, about 7pm your time.

[Glirdan]

Well, that saved me some hard thinking!! Thanks!! 7pm is actually a very good time for me. But still, don't keep yourself up to late there Sleepy. You need study time for exams, unless you start the game afterwards. But, enough about that. Go over to the other Tol-in-Gaurhoth thread and post something saying that we need players.

[Kath]

I'll sign up if you want me. Aside from dead person who may possibly be asked thoughts on the roles of others I'll be playing no further part in Form's game and so am (relatively) free.

[Gandalf_the _white]

i'm game but i can't garentee (spl?) that i'll be able to come online every day though :(

[Gandalf_the _white]

and i'd like to be the villiage wizard :D :smokin:

[Thinlómien]

Gandalf
If you're just a normal villager, then you don't have to be there every day. But, if you have a special role, then you have to be. (But of course it's not that strict, but it is important that you'd try to be. Otherwise it might ruin the game, especially in the few last days.

[Gandalf_the _white]

ok i'll try my best but if i do join in this will be my first game of werewolf (be gentle :p ) but i pretty much understand the rules from what i've read

[Thinlómien]

The Werewolf Junior was first intended to those who hadn't played in a lots of games, but that isn't the case anymore. But don't worry, I, for example have playd only in one game before, so I'm nearly as unexperienced as you are. The point is just having fun :D.

[Gandalf_the _white]

thanks does anyone know when the game is going to start?

[Thinlómien]

When we're having enough people :)

[Gandalf_the _white]

lol :D ok thanks

[Garin]

I'm in as well and in the same position as Kath. Already sent PM to Sleepy.

[Roa_Aoife]

I'm an East Coaster. If the deadline is going to be 6 PM here, I'm fine, so long as I cn post anytime with in the 24 hr periods. I won't be available for the last 6 or so hours before the dealine, but I never keep normal hours so anytime before that would work just fine.

I'd like to be the Village Apothecary, if that's alright.

Also, all these potential rule changes have me a bit confused. Could someone lay out what exactly is happening now? Just a summary please.

[Anguirel]

My occupation will be an idealistic, chivalrous, lovelorn young squire.

I will reveal the object of my affections at some appropriate point in the game. Or possibly at my death. Until then I'll write tormented, melancholy poems...

[Glirdan]

The Werewolf Junior was first intended to those who hadn't played in a lots of games, but that isn't the case anymore.

Actually Thin, that is still true. This game is for all those beginners (sp?) who feel that playing with the higher up members would be to challenging. However, we also want some of the more experienced players playing because it kind of evens out the game.n But, there are more experienced players than there are newbies and it's probably always going to be like that.

[Thinlómien]

I'm just checking, but isn't it so that when someone who has a special role knows she/he will be away for a night period, she/he posts what she/he will do before she/ goes? (And if she/he is a wolf and there are other wolves left then they can do the desicion...)

[Valier]

Well I've met my demise in the real werewolf game,before I got really into it. So I would like to sign up for this game,if there's room.

Depending on ....the start time if someone would let me know what time that would be in Central Standard time,I might be able to join.

[Anguirel]

Welcome aboard Valier. This is a noble cause. I need my Werewolf fix.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Thats about ten we have now. I'll wait till Thursday and then start.

[Valier]

I shall be the local dog trainer,training dogs for such jobs as herding,fox hunting,guarding property etc...

[Anguirel]

Ten is very few, Sleepy. Eager though I am to begin, you should aim for twelve at least-and with all the special roles, probably fifteen...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

If we can only get 11 or 12 then maybe we should scrap all gifteds bar the Seer. Hmm?

[Anguirel]

I have to say...I like a few Gifteds. I'm for Baroque, elaborate detail, not back-to-basics...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Says one of the few Downers lucky enough to play in the only no-frills game of Werewolf on the Downs. :p

[Anguirel]

And who was hung on the first day...! (And rightly so...)

[Shelob]

Count me in Sleepy. My computer has returned from the land of dead electronics (it was only mostly dead), so aside from having to work around school hours I'm set.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

*raises hand*

What say you to me joining in?

I am by no means a beginner and I also happened to be one of those players in that one and only no-frills game. And unlike Anguirel (who rightly died the first day... filthy turncoat, trying to frame me), I'd love to see one played again.

I will fully understand if everybody looks at me incredulously and says something like "Go back to where you came from. You play in the big leagues. You're currently playing a narrated RPG version as both yourself and your character! What are you thinking, trying to play in WWJ?!?! You aren't wanted here."

But yeah... I'd love to get into a game now that finals are over, I'm back from break, and my teachers haven't completely loaded me with work yet. And I'd like the game to be less... stabby? Is stabby a good word? than the big ones. In those, if you disappear for an afternoon because something comes up, people lynch you. :D

I want it a bit more... fun instead of competitive.

[Valesse]

I sure hope you're counting me in... though I do not know how to play. :( :rolleyes:

Seriously though, this will be my first WW game, so... any pointers? Other than "Have fun", because thats given with how fanatical people seem to be with.. it.

... weird that I've never played a game before, ain't it? :P

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Val: don't trust anybody. Except me. ;)

[Valier]

I'm glad there are more players for this game.What is an "No Frills" game? I like the idea of being lenient with the posting.But I have lots of time on my hands right now. So I will try to post alot,(not too much ;) )
I do go to school but it's only one class a day.Saturdays I also have a class but I should be home an hour before votes are due. :p

[Sleepy Ranger]

Val: don't trust anybody. Except me. ;)

Trust Fea?!? I'd die before I made that mistake! She wanted my lynched in the first WW game I played! And despite awesome playing by Fea and TORE it was I who won the game for us! >_>

I did after all have the final wolf lynched when everything hung on the balance.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Hey, it's not my fault that TORE was suddenly like "Hey Fea, maybe you shouldn't actually trust me. Maybe you should second guess our entire complicated bluff where you accused me, the Seer, of being the Ranger, which you were, while you decided to play the Seer to save me and most especially Jack, who you had only slightly mis-placed faith in. You should lose your trust and decide that, instead of protecting me AGAIN, you should protect the WOLF!"

Yeah, that's my fault. :p

[WaynetheGoblin]

well i would like to join this game if you put me in then i want to be an actor.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

May I play?

[Garin]

Job title: I'll be a mere carpenter.

[Glirdan]

OOOOO! This game is going to be GOOD!!!! Grrr!!! Now I want to be in it!! Oh well, I've made a commitment!!!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I think I'll be the village manicurist. With precarious temperment and a sharp nail file.

[tar-ancalime]

Well, when I saw the current cast for this game, I just had to sign up. My better judgement (aka Mr. tar-ancalime) notwithstanding. :D

Is there still space?

I'm neither the greenest nor the most experienced in this list; I'm hoping that the middle ground will suit me.

Also I'm encouraged to see that there seem already to be players from various parts of the world; perhaps I won't be the only one posting at odd times and absent at popular times this time around. (My time zone is GMT +6.)

Occupation...occupation...hmmm...I'll be that lady with all the cats. I wear tatty old calico dresses, ravelly sweaters, and sensible shoes. (Embrace the anachronism.) Sometimes I shake my fist at nothing, and I'm always muttering about "those rotten kids."

[Anguirel]

A game with Fea? Haven't had one of those since...Telamarth maybe?

I'm looking forward to this so much...though as I say, I like frills...

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

T'was indeed Telemarth. I've not played since then. Too busy with finals and all that go with that time of year.

We start tomorrow, then? If I remember what I read correctly?

[Anguirel]

Yes, we certainly will now everyone's arrived, I imagine. Which means no Saucey, but there you go...

Here are the current players

Mod - Sleepy Ranger
Mod - Glirdan

Players
1. Garin
2. Eonwe
3. Roa_Aoife
4. Thinlomien
5. Anguirel
6. Eomer of the Rohirrim
7. Mithalwen
8. Kath
9. Gandalf_the_white
10. Valier
11. Shelob
12. Valesse
13. Waynethegoblin
14. Feanor of the Peredhil
15. AbercrombieOfRohan
16. tar-ancalime

[Sleepy Ranger]

I've been punished and I don't think I'll be able to come online at all for who knows how long. I'm going to ask my dad for 5 minutes everyday to check my mail if he agrees I'll still mod otherwise I'm so sorry, this was shaping up so good.

My Apologies,
Sleepy Ranger

[Anguirel]

5 minutes a day?

You'll have to type like a maniac to do write-ups in that time...

[Valier]

That totally sucks Sleepy (If you see this ;) ) Is there any way someone could fill in as mod until Sleepy's return or shall we all just wait? :confused:

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Glirdan?

There's a huge waiting list for Moderators, remember. By the way, I sympathize with you Sleepy. :( ;)

[Gil-Galad]

i am stil lavailble and maybe even for a game?

[tar-ancalime]

I'd like to suggest that Glirdan take over, and Sleepy mod the next game.

Sleepy: I sure hope that whatever you're being punished for was worth it! :D

[Glirdan]

Well, since there isn't really a choice for me, I will start modding the game. If Sleepy comes back before it's over, he can take over, if he wants.

Gil, when are you planning to start your Gang Wars game? If it's after this game, then Sleepy will have to wait.

So, I will proceed and start tomorrow as planned, however, I might have a differnt start time due to computer availability. Does anyone have the slightest idea as to what the villages name is or what the game is called?

And here's an updated list of the players.

1. Garin
2. Eonwe
3. Roa_Aoife
4. Thinlomien
5. Anguirel
6. Eomer of the Rohirrim
7. Mithalwen
8. Kath
9. Gandalf_the_white
10. Valier
11. Shelob
12. Valesse
13. Waynethegoblin
14. Feanor of the Peredhil
15. AbercrombieOfRohan
16. tar-ancalime
17. Gil (unless you want to be my backup mod, which I will definetly need)

[Shelob]

Speaking with Sleepy via IM yesterday he mentioned that the village was called Mejis. The town's apparently from the Dark Tower series by Stephen King, so if you've read it that might help, I haven't so it means nothing. Sleepy also mentioned that the town was a farming town and specialized, I believe, in animals -- so livestock. I know he mentioned there were was an inn and some kind of market area.

As for what he had planned as a name, or narative style I can't help you...

Given that it's a village with a market area though I was going to be a shopkeeper. I own/run "Web Head Hats". Where I sell hats (in case you had trouble getting that).

[Valier]

I own/run "Web Head Hats". Where I sell hats (in case you had trouble getting that).

That's so funny, because TGWBS was a hat maker in the werewolf game that is still currently playing. Not that it matters, but it gave me deja vu :D

[Glirdan]

Thanks a ton Shelob. So, anyone have any preferance for what the game should be called? Unless I get some new info from Sleepy, Shelob or someone who talks to him ona a regular basis, it's open for whatever.

[Shelob]

That's so funny

Thanks, but Sleepy suggested I sell hats...the name and motto I came up with, though the motto almost was "A proud part of the Lycosidae family", since "Lycosidae" is the Family for wolf spiders ('family' as in a step up from Genus/species)...but I figured the Order one was more out there, and made less sense.

Glirdan, I'll keep an eye out for Sleepy, if I see him online before thursday I'll be sure to get information out of him. If I see him after I'll make sure he knows what's going on. Sound Fair?

[Glirdan]

That's perfect Shelob. Thanks a ton.

Ok, I need an occupation from Eowne, Thin, Eomer, Mith, Kath, Valesse and Crombie. I think I'll push the game back to start on Sunday at the latest. We need to figure out the rules and roles not to mention, I need to know if the people who have signed up know that the game will be starting. So, if you cn, just post to tell me that you know we'll be starting soon.

Ok, what should we do with roles? There are 16 people, so, any ideas? I do have one rule, non-retractable votes is a definite. Mass lynches are out. There will be a double-lynches, unless others say otherwise.

I'm also in desperate need of a backup mod, so, Gil, if you're not playing, do you mind being m backup? I have exams that I have to study for, as I'm sure you probably do. But, what do you say?

Oh, my "occupation" will be towm musician, so no one can take that!! :p

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm here, I'm aware that we've had mod-difficulties and are starting soon, though not as soon as expected.

My only comment is that a no-frills game (three wolves, a seer, and a whole bunch of innocent nobodies) would be greatly enjoyed. However, if I'm outnumbered or if the Mod-God denies it, then so be it.

[Valier]

I am alright with starting when ever. I like the idea of a Ranger as well as the seer and 3 ww's Maybe something else cool....unique maybe? :D

[Gil-Galad]

i shall accept Glirdan, i have only one exam left, Next Wedsneday 1:00 - 3:00 Mountain time

[Anguirel]

I would like the plan Sleepy was heading for-two Seers acting as Shirriffs as well, who get one dream between them, and...

3 Wolves
1 Ranger
1 Hunter
1 Cursed
Villagers

[Márcolië Lamen]

Oops, sorry for not replying. I was off doing college applications, and just returned to Barrowdowns today, well 10 minutes ago.

[Mithalwen]

Can I be a mysteriously wealthy widow? Or do Ihave to have a proper job? In which case I will be a falconer/austringer if that isn't taken.

[tar-ancalime]

Just checking in as you asked, Glirdan.

I'll keep popping in to see when the game is going to start.

Mithalwen, I haven't got a proper job either! If That Lady with All the Cats isn't good enough I'll be an impoverished gentlewoman who is selling off the heirlooms piecemeal to avoid working for a living.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's probably not worth doing a weak version of whatever game Sleepy had planned. Why not just let him do his game (with all his ideas) when he is available to mod?

Glirdan, don't feel pressurized to mod this game if you are too busy. Remember that there are lots of people able to fill in. :) If you do want to mod it, then I suggest keeping it simple. Don't try to copy what Sleepy was going to do.

Does that seem fair?

I'd like a no-frills game too, but participants have been promised razzle and dazzle aplenty for this one. So I think we are to have:

3 wolves
2 seers (working as Shiriffs, having one dream per night)
1 ranger
1 hunter
1 cursed
8 villagers (I think)

And I shall be the village doctor.

[Kath]

I'm still available to play. I would prefer a no frills game and I think it would be fairer to leave the two Shirriffs as the Seer idea for when Sleepy can mod.

But either way, I'm happy.

[Roa_Aoife]

All these extra roles have me a bit confused. I understand the seer and the cursed, but what are the Ranger and the Hunter?

All I'd like is a quick summary, please. Pretty please? With Longbottom Leaf on top?

[Thinlómien]

(Glirdan modding and Fea playing... This starts to sound familiar....)

If we are some kind of cattle village, I think we should have someone with cattle. So I'll be a rich widow, who has cattle.

I'm sorry for you, Sleepy. I hope you can manipulate your dad enough to get back to modding... ;)

And how these seer-shiriffs work?

[Garin]

Roa_Aoife: All these extra roles have me a bit confused. I understand the seer and the cursed, but what are the Ranger and the Hunter?
There is a plethora of info regarding these roles on all the werewolf threads. I f you are unwilling to research for yourself this is not your game, whatsoever.

[Anguirel]

It's clear that the no frills side is gaining weight.

In particular, I've been convinced that the Seer-Shirriffs should be left to another game when Sleepy can mod properly.

Maybe just a Seer, Wolves, Ranger, Hunter, Cursed? That's fairly basic. Nothing particularly flashy. But I do like my Ranger saves, duelling hunters and last minute Cursed conversions...

[Mithalwen]

Are we still having retractable votes?

[Anguirel]

I don't see why not...

[Thinlómien]

I don't see why not... Neither do I, though I don't like them too much. (And probably I shouldn't be saying anything because I haven't never tried them.) *shuts her mouth and nods wisely*

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Three Wolves: no PMing during the DAY but are allowed to privately plot at NIGHT. One kill per night. We all know this role. Just reiterating that when the wolves were allowed to plot all day, it was a foolish "advantage" as wolves can pick up "hidden" signals in each other's posts far more easily than innocents can, so they don't need extra chat.

Seer: I sleep fitfully at NIGHT and ask Illamatar... I mean... the mod... whether or not a chosen villager is guilty. In the day, I try to stay alive and I try to keep villagers alive and get werewolves lynched.

Villagers: We talk a lot without knowing anything for certain.

This game is the most fun. But since we seem to want "frills" of a sort, I'm perfectly happy to add

Hunter: whenever the Hunter dies, s/he gets to take somebody out with them.

Ranger: Protects somebody each NIGHT and the wolves can't kill the one they're protecting.

Ranger is probably my favorite "extra" role... probably because of that game Thinlo mentioned. Fun time, that.

Cursed is neat too... usually doesn't come into play, but has altered the course of a game once or twice.

Whatever works.

And we're having retractable? I thought that was the one certain thing; your vote is your vote and that's final.

[Anguirel]

Sleepy was planning on non-retractable. I think it might be an interesting experiment leading to more politicking...

[Thinlómien]

I second Fea's model. It's the only one I've ever played, but it worked well. Now we are of course having more players than (I think) we had then, so it might affect the situation. And, I'm also willing to try other models as well.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

From the perspective of a former Moddess, I can say that having too many special roles without enough people causes a lot of PM answering for the mod, a lot of confusion, and by the end of the game, everybody knows who everybody is, so it completely ruins last minute "Omigod, did I make a huge mistake?" paranoia.

WW games really do need a lot of paranoia to be really fun...

[Mithalwen]

Well I signed up because of the offer of retractable votes.......

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I can handle retractable votes. They tend to amuse me and up the paranoia level. "Is she serious, or does she plan to retract her vote at the last minute??!?!"

[Garin]

If we keep just the rudimentary roles, retractable votes could spice things up.
wolves, seer, hunter, ranger, cursed...
Retracting a vote raises a lot of suspicion.

[Valier]

hmmm I am not so sure I like the idea of retractable votes..but then again I have never played a game that had them.I played the werewolf game that is still currently being played.I got murdered by Werewolves,I might add :mad: :D
But if others think it will make the game more interesting...then I'm up for it.

Oh also if we have the Ranger we must decided how many nights they can protect one person, and how many times can the Seer ask the same dead person ie:Werewolf :cool:

[Mithalwen]

Retractable votes are part of the original formula. Non retractable votes are a modification which stuck (started by, I think, The Saucepan Man in WW2?) in the mainstream game (apart from "my"game ?). If I ever get to Mod the return to Midsomer Mawlin they will return .. though I hope not to have to ressurect anyone again.... very fatiguin'....

[Garin]

Posted by Valier:
Oh also if we have the Ranger we must decided how many nights they can protect one person, and how many times can the Seer ask the same dead person ie:Werewolf
In the usual rules it was only one night for a ranger to protect, then he/she had to take a day off and focus on someone else. As for the seer role, it was seriously tweeked in the game we were in. Usually the seer goes to the moderator only and not a dead person. That was a new thing Form tried. In the normal seer role you can only ask the mod about one person once, but once is all you need.

[Eonwe]

well, i don't much care either way, whatever we decide. i seem to have only played in rather small uncomplicated games with non retractable votes. that was fun, and i can't really make a judgement on the fun-level of a larger game, so why not give it a try. either way is cool with me...

i think i will be...lets see...a hermit who lives in a small wigmam in the woods behind the village.

[Valesse]

I'm going to leave the rules discussing to people who know what they're talking about, but considering that for a fact there are two WW new comers it would probably be better to have the basic set of characters and... well have fun with the votes. Retractable votes would make it kind of easy, and not as thoughtful, as I see it-- though believe me, I can -totally- see the advantage of taking it back.

But enough about that from me (since I'm just a novice and all...) I had this idea of being a professional tumbler/acrobat but the setting would be silly and awkward (... unless thats how you like it :p ). Otherwise I can be a milk maid of small stature and high pitch.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Can we just let the mod set out the rules?

[Valier]

Can we just let the mod set out the rules?

I agree. Oh MOD-GOD ......what shall we do? set us on the path to enlightenment!! :p

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

If we're still offering up opinions, I'd like to take a whack at retractable votes. However, the final decision is, of course, up to our dear Glirdan.

As for an occupation, is 'pompous windbag' taken yet? :D

[Glirdan]

Ok! I've come to a desicion. After reading all the posts, I say (this is probably already aparent) the game will be.....NO FRILLS! So, back to the basics. But, I will add the Cursed in there to make a little more paranoia. :p So, game type is set, almost everyone has checked in with me. i still need a role from Thin, Kath and Eomer however. Marcolie, are you playing or no? If yes, I need to know within the next few hours. Ok, one small order of buissness to take care of. What shall the name of the game be? Any suggestions? Any word from Sleepy?

Updated Players list (with roles)

Garin - carpenter
Eonwe - hermit in a wigwam
Roa - village apothecary
Thin
Ang - idealistic, chivalrous, lovelorn young squire
Eomer
Mith - mysterusly walthy widow
Kath - tortoise herder
Gandalf - village wizard
Valier - local dog trainer
Shelob - Web Head Hats owner
Valesse - tumbler/acrobat (awkwardness is kewl)
Wayne - actor
Fea - village maicurist
Crombie - pompous windbag
tar - lady with all the cats

[Kath]

Oh, err - I'll be a tortoise herder!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Nan Qualinmerë = Death Wish Valley

Don't know if anybody else likes it, but it's got such a Tol-in-Gaurhoth charm to it. :D

[Glirdan]

I like that Fea. I think I'll use that. Does everyone concur? And just a little information, this is only the THIRD game of WWJ!! :eek: Shows how long we've had to put this game off!!! Oh, Gil, do you have any particular occupation you'd like to have? I'm including you in the death (we'll talk about how we want to die later). Thin and Eomer, I still need an occupation from you. To let everyone know now, I'm going to send out the roles tonight. I'll have the site up later on tonight (hopefully) and we'll start the game at around 10:30 Eastern Time tomorrow. Sound good? Another thing, if you haven't posted anything in TWO days, you WILL be lynched!! Just to clarify the roles:

1 Seer
1 Hunter
1 Ranger
1 Cursed
3 Wolves
9 Ordos
Retractable Votes

That ok with everyone?

[Garin]

Sounds good, Glirdan.

[Shelob]

Fine with me. I'd like to remind everyone that on weekdays I have school, meaning that most days I won't be able to do anything until around 4pm eastern time.

Haven't seen Sleepy online yet, so continue as you are, if I do I'll still let him know what's going on.

[Valier]

we'll start the game at around 10:30 Eastern Time tomorrow
Am or pm? either should be fine but i need to know right away!

[Glirdan]

PM. I have school in the am, so I can't really do it then.

[Valier]

PM. I have school in the am, so I can't really do it then

That's perfect for me, I have school in the afternoon,so that works :)

[Glirdan]

Ok. I sent out the roles. I'm about to have the thread up. Thin and Eomer still have a chance to give me their occupation. If they don't, I will come up with one for them. I will also have the new thread linked to my sig.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Due to some organized chaos (classes), please don't expect posts from me during "normal" school time hours (I've got this term's schedule set up like highschool... day time classes all in a row).

Can't wait to start.

[Thinlómien]

Glirdan:
(Glirdan modding and Fea playing... This starts to sound familiar....)

If we are some kind of cattle village, I think we should have someone with cattle. So I'll be a rich widow, who has cattle.

I'm sorry for you, Sleepy. I hope you can manipulate your dad enough to get back to modding... ;)

And how these seer-shiriffs work?

EDIT: See my post below!

[Mithalwen]

I think the gap may becasue I had said I would be a mysteriously wealthy widower first.... but I will change to my second choice of Falconer/Austringer if you like... lest the spirit of Lilian Bellamy take over my soul on a permanent basis........

[Thinlómien]

I think the gap may becasue I had said I would be a mysteriously wealthy widower first.... but I will change to my second choice of Falconer/Austringer if you like... lest the spirit of Lilian Bellamy take over my soul on a permanent basis........
Oh sorry, I didn't notice... :( I should probably concentrate more on this game.

If someone's to change a role, it's me, not you. I'll be an old cattle owner (not a rich one), ex-mercenary.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I already gave an occupation, I'm the village doctor. I'll let you off though, Glirdy. ;)

By the way, I understand 'No frills' to mean: Wolves, Seer and Ordinary Villagers. :p

I will play in such a game sometime this year.

[Glirdan]

Ah, see! That's what happens when you don't get clarification on things. But it will still be fun. I mean, retractable votes!! How long has it been since a game with retractable votes!? :eek: Oh, and I started the thread. As you see, it's linked to my sig. So, if you have any questions you may post them there. As well, make sure you are all Invisible!! If you don't know how to turn yourself invisible, here's how to do it. Go into your User CP, go into Edit Options and click the box that says Show me as Invisible..

[Anguirel]

I'm going to be in London this afternoon and evening, gadding around and then going to the theatre, so will probably vote drastically early.

[Thinlómien]

I shall probably vote early every day, because I'm usually sleeping at the time when day changes to night.

[Glirdan]

One last thing, the time of my death is not the actual time. Take off about half an hour to an hour. And that'll be the time.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

Tomorrow shall be painful to me because chances are I won't be able to have computer access until 7:30 or 8 PM (EST.) So, if I'm silent tomorrow for most of the day, I'm so very sorry. I shall try to make up for it when I get back.

[Roa_Aoife]

I too will be out most of tomorrow. I should start posting somewhere around 7 EST, otherwise it will be very late before I can get going again.

[Valesse]

I have some classes tomorrow, but those shouldn't take much time at... Well I guess its "today". I just haven't gone to sleep yet.

Two days, Two nights, four deaths... and Valesse is already addicted. (Yes I speak in third person sometimes: It gives me an edge.) Great game you've got going, guys and gals! :p (Glirdan and Gil especially.)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Same for me with classes. I'll be away from the internet (sob! ;)) until late afternoon/early evening.

[Anguirel]

I too will spend long periods of time at "chivalry school"...

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

I'm here to take myself off the "people with school" list. School's been cancelled today! (hurrah!) So, I'll be online for most of the day.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I'm back... well at least partially, if the games started then thats good and well if it hasn't and you want me back then I'm willing by all means. :)

Anyway I'm sorry for being away for having to cut away so suddenly but thats life, no?

[Mithalwen]

Hi, I know I have been quiet but I work and I don't have home access..... I am lingering after work but my sinuses are killing me and I don't fancy sitting for hours in a cold cyber cafe. I was ill all over Christmas with sinusitis and given that my project is coming to fruition at work I have to put that first and not risk my health again. I may be able to get online (I have to deliver my uncle's birthday present and they have broadband.... ) I fI survive I promise to be around more... but I think I will have to bow out early tonight .. I am sorry but....

[tar-ancalime]

Sleepy, welcome back! We've started without you, I'm afraid--we're deep in Day 2.

[Glirdan]

Yes Sleepy, welcome back. People suggested that I take over for you seeing as you were gone and we're almost at the end of Day 2 now. Aobut half an hour left and I'll post the death. If you need to talk to me about anything, PM or send me an E-mail (that was meant for Sleepy.)

[Sleepy Ranger]

Ah, no I'm fine. I'll mod some other game, some other time. Guess I'll have to start from the bottom of the mod list but thats alright since I'm more or less tied up till Feb 20th.

[Roa_Aoife]

I believe we discussed having you mod the next game, and so merely switch places with Glirdan. It only seems fair. I'm sure whoever's next on the list won't mind, given the circumstances.

[Sleepy Ranger]

W-ell, thats awfully nice of you people! :)
Thang you very buch but alas I shan't be able to do anything till the 20th of Feb. (Two days after my birthday just so you know >_>)
Anyway I guess I'll put dibs on the next game after 20th Feb if nobody minds. Thank you once again.

[Mithalwen]

I lose track - am I next or next but one ... wasn't there someone else ..Kitanna maybe?

[Valier]

Is there a list for future Mods for werewolf? I am new but could so Mod a game that would be ssssoooo cool (snort,snicker) :p No really I would be interested some time down the road if there's room............ :D

[WaynetheGoblin]

I thought that the death would have been posted by now right.

[Mithalwen]

So did I - not having internet access at home I need to know what is happening so I can plan to be online (assuming the wolves aren't burping over my bones of course!!)

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well I just hope Glirden post the death soon I want to know. I am a shade of carm doom.

[Valesse]

I have class again today (and Arby's!) so I'll be out for a slightly less longer time today. I just hope the deaths get posted somewhere between now and then :p

I'm sure they will. Glirdan's been ontop of it.

[Roa_Aoife]

He may be waiting till 10:30 tonight, so we stay on the same schedule.

EDIT: That's EST....

[Garin]

Okay, this is frustrating has anyone heard from our mods at all? We have half a day for voting, now.

[Valier]

Wow this is weird! mod-gods? are you out there?

[Valier]

Well I have school again today...so if it's posted before I get back (which I hope happens) I will post then. :)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm sure they'll work it out. Remember, real life sometimes invades game time. No blaming our mods since they were gracious enough to take over after Sleepy suffered real life.

[Gil-Galad]

sorry sorry, Glirdan didn't give me any ahead notice that i was aware of, i'l lclose voting down now

[Anguirel]

Voting is closed. We're waiting for Day to begin...

[Mithalwen]

I hope that all concerned copied Gil in to their requests :S ....

[Mithalwen]

And it isn't blame... just need to juggle life accordingly......

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

And it isn't blame... just need to juggle life accordingly......
Too true. Speaking of juggling, I'll give warning now that I'm not going to be around much on Friday. I don't know if it will be Day or Night, but whichever, whatever, however, etcetera, I'll be busy that day.

[Mithalwen]

Well you see I had almost given up on today .... and was going home to do my tax return (gosh being an adult is so much fun) so I could clear tomorrow evening for the game (assuming still in blah blah). I was literally about to go when gil posted...

[Anguirel]

Me too. I will be being riotous and yoofful with a whole lot of beauteous actresses on Friday wondering covertly if I've been lynched or eaten...

[Mithalwen]

Me too. I will be being riotous and yoofful with a whole lot of beauteous actresses on Friday wondering covertly if I've been lynched or eaten...

I am meant to be doing a pub quiz.. so in a way if we effectively lose a full 24 hr period it would work well for me now.. I will slope off now to do the dreary stuff ... play tomorrow and then Friday will be a night?

[Gil-Galad]

Day has begun! sorry every players for that...