TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nerwen · 08-13-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

And yes, Nerwen, I agree that the other issue doesn't need to be discussed any more. What needed to be said has been said. The truth is out there for the Bear to read if he wishes.

Good... um... can we talk about something un-bear-related? Please?

the phantom · 08-13-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverser

Good... um... can we talk about something un-bear-related? Please?

Mod-God just said we can discuss surveys.

Boromir88 · 08-13-2009, 10:32 AM

Mac's got it.

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They were supposed to be confidential and it's exclusively up to Boro to post them.

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Mac's got it.

Ok, wait a minute - you just said we could post them, didn't you?

Boromir88 · 08-13-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Ok, wait a minute - you just said we could post them, didn't you?

Oh my bad for the confusion. Discussion of their purpose is ok, and is encouraged. Posting individual answers is not. That I will do afterwards and it will be anonymous

I seriously wouldn't even be able to tell you who voted for who as I just marked down the numbers

Inziladun · 08-13-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Mod-God just said we can discuss surveys.

I still have to wonder what we can gain from that. Seems a waste of time when the baddies can just make up whatever they like.

x'd with Rikae

the phantom · 08-13-2009, 10:40 AM

Wrong, Rikae. I'm not trying to trick the Bear. You're right that the Bear also likes the extra Night kill, but there are three Villains to provide it, and thus it is rather safe to gun for them. You only need one Villain alive to provide the extra kill, and so the Bear won't kill the last Villain I agree, but any Villain before that is fair game. And the Cobbler especially, as he does not even provide a kill but is simply a villager guaranteed to side with the Villains. The Bear should definitely consider slaughtering an obvious Cobbler.

Your resistance to these facts is puzzling. Even if it were true that I was attempting to trick the Bear into helping us, is that a bad thing that you would need to point out?! Seriously.... Every time you try and fight this idea you look very suspicious to me, as if you're a Wolf saying, "No, no, don't gun for us!" or the Cobbler saying, "No, don't kill my masters!"

I have done nothing but state fact. Stop trying to make it sound otherwise. Firstly, what I'm saying is correct. Second, even if it wasn't, it's obviously to the benefit of the village, so opposing it is ridiculous.

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Wrong, Rikae. I'm not trying to trick the Bear. You're right that the Bear also likes the extra Night kill, but there are three Villains to provide it, and thus it is rather safe to gun for them. You only need one Villain alive to provide the extra kill, and so the Bear won't kill the last Villain I agree, but any Villain before that is fair game. And the Cobbler especially, as he does not even provide a kill but is simply a villager guaranteed to side with the Villains. The Bear should definitely consider slaughtering an obvious Cobbler.

Your resistance to these facts is puzzling. Even if it were true that I was attempting to trick the Bear into helping us, is that a bad thing that you would need to point out?! Seriously.... Every time you try and fight this idea you look very suspicious to me, as if you're a Wolf saying, "No, no, don't gun for us!" or the Cobbler saying, "No, don't kill my masters!"

I have done nothing but state fact. Stop trying to make it sound otherwise. Firstly, what I'm saying is correct. Second, even if it wasn't, it's obviously to the benefit of the village, so opposing it is ridiculous.

It doesn't benefit the village to promote false hope. If the bear guns for wolves, it will be when xe feels it will help xem, not because we ask xem to. I'm not "resisting facts", you are. The bear is not going to "ally" xemself with us, and to think of xem as an ally is not to the village's benefit. The bear may kill a wolf, but is more likely to kill an innocent, and as long as xe lives, we'll have two deaths per night. Lynching the bear early on would be the best thing we could do, and when you and Hakon run around promoting the idea that the bear is some kind of super guard dog, it makes you look very suspicious to me.

satansaloser2005 · 08-13-2009, 10:56 AM

The next person to promote/continue the bear discussion (who doesn't cross with me) is getting my vote. I may or may not be kidding.

Going to tidy myself and a few things about the house. Enjoy.

08-13-2009, 10:40 AM	#7
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Wrong, Rikae. I'm not trying to trick the Bear. You're right that the Bear also likes the extra Night kill, but there are three Villains to provide it, and thus it is rather safe to gun for them. You only need one Villain alive to provide the extra kill, and so the Bear won't kill the last Villain I agree, but any Villain before that is fair game. And the Cobbler especially, as he does not even provide a kill but is simply a villager guaranteed to side with the Villains. The Bear should definitely consider slaughtering an obvious Cobbler. Your resistance to these facts is puzzling. Even if it were true that I was attempting to trick the Bear into helping us, is that a bad thing that you would need to point out?! Seriously.... Every time you try and fight this idea you look very suspicious to me, as if you're a Wolf saying, "No, no, don't gun for us!" or the Cobbler saying, "No, don't kill my masters!" I have done nothing but state fact. Stop trying to make it sound otherwise. Firstly, what I'm saying is correct. Second, even if it wasn't, it's obviously to the benefit of the village, so opposing it is ridiculous. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-13-2009, 10:56 AM	#9
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	The next person to promote/continue the bear discussion (who doesn't cross with me) is getting my vote. I may or may not be kidding. Going to tidy myself and a few things about the house. Enjoy. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.