Tol-in-Gaurhoth Threefold and Six: The Night Guard

[Mnemosyne]

So, I'd just like to point out that if we had followed The Plan we would have been a lot better off than we actually were.

Even though I understand Kit's reaction to it.

[Nienna]

So true Mnemo... so true.

[Inziladun]

Ah, village. I'm afraid I failed miserably in my aim to save you.
My initial plan involved the Seer, but due in part to my own actions we lost her on Day 1.
After that, I'd determined that the double-kill option needed to be eliminated as quickly as possible if the innocents were to have a chance. On Night 2 we'd foregone the double, not wanting Legate hanging around as a known innocent. Therefore, I wanted Nog to be guarded Night 3 for the same reason. I knew I couldn't keep that up indefinitely, though. I waited to see if any suspicion would go out toward my packmates, giving me a chance for action.
Ironically, it fell to me to send in the Night 2 and 3 kills. Is that why you lot dropped the ball and didn't do one after I was lynched?
Anyway, as it seemed I would carry the most suspicion of my packmates, I decided to try to get you all to lynch me, and attempt to leave a few clues. The problem I had though, was that none of you had any idea there was a traitor-wolf, and I didn't know how you would take any of my clues. I tried anyway. I hinted at my own lupinity here, with the 'music' remark. I tried to tell you that Nilp was a wolf (the first paragraph). And I pretty much gave you our honest reasoning behind sticking with the single-kill. I was hoping those who had played with me the most might sense something out of the ordinary with me.
Day 3, I knew I wouldn't be around near DL. I tried to start a lynch-wagon on Brinn, building on things others had said, and hoping for the best. It turned out quite as bad as Boro's last game, where I said I wouldn't be around for DL, and came home to find myself swinging.
It was great fun anyway.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Good thing we got you lynched early, then. I had a similar option opened for Greenie (cos Brinn and I still weren't sure of her, and we knew this DAY would be harrowing), but I'm glad she turned out to be loyal and she sealed the win for us.

I'll ask Nogrod for her hand later, soon as they wake up.

What were your restrictions, btw? Weren't you allowed to tell the village outright what you were, or all our names, or something?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

What were your restrictions, btw? Weren't you allowed to tell the village outright what you were, or all our names, or something?

I wasn't allowed to tell you three or the village that I was the Saboteur. And I couldn't muck about with the kill choices either, but I think you already knew that.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Anyway, as it seemed I would carry the most suspicion of my packmates, I decided to try to get you all to lynch me, and attempt to leave a few clues. The problem I had though, was that none of you had any idea there was a traitor-wolf, and I didn't know how you would take any of my clues. I tried anyway. I hinted at my own lupinity here, with the 'music' remark. I tried to tell you that Nilp was a wolf (the first paragraph). And I pretty much gave you our honest reasoning behind sticking with the single-kill. I was hoping those who had played with me the most might sense something out of the ordinary with me.
Day 3, I knew I wouldn't be around near DL. I tried to start a lynch-wagon on Brinn, building on things others had said, and hoping for the best. It turned out quite as bad as Boro's last game, where I said I wouldn't be around for DL, and came home to find myself swinging.
It was great fun anyway.

Well, we got that you were a wolf (obviously). I think you could have been a bit more explicit with the clues to your fellows– though I suppose it was hard to know how, without risking making them looking more innocent.

As for the plan– yes, I noted that you very helpfully explained the reasons for the missed kills. The thing is, though, wolves actually do stuff like that sometimes– that is, the reason for the kill or whatever seems so self-evident to them that they'll quite happily mention it (remember "looking Frodo-ish", Brinn?).

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, we got that you were a wolf (obviously). I think you could have been a bit more explicit with the clues to your fellows– though I suppose it was hard to know how, without risking making them looking more innocent.

Indeed. My worry with giving overt clues was that the pack would quickly figure me out, and would somehow engineer my demise themselves, giving them a very good standing with the rest of you. A rock and a hard place, as I saw it. I thought if I just deprived them of the double-kills, you all would have a chance.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Indeed. My worry with giving overt clues was that the pack would quickly figure me out, and would somehow engineer my demise themselves, giving them a very good standing with the rest of you. A rock and a hard place, as I saw it. I thought if I just deprived them of the double-kills, you all would have a chance.

How did you manage to talk your packmates into that one?

[Nerwen]

Oh, and a question for the other wolves-

After Zil's demise, was there any Nightly discussion along the lines of, "What got into him? It's like he was TRYING to give himself away!"

I still remember our pack's all-unsuspecting reaction to the death of Kamikaze Lomwolf in Sally's game.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

How did you manage to talk your packmates into that one?

Actually, I believe it was Nilp who brought up the one-kill idea and I was strongly for it too. So our traitor didn't even need to talk us into it. It was my belief that we stood a better chance without known innocents, and though it would take more Days, if we played it right, it would allow for a more cunning victory. It worked for me before (well, sort of). And it worked again.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

After Zil's demise, was there any Nightly discussion along the lines of, "What got into him? It's like he was TRYING to give himself away!"

Not really. He's a newer player still and I haven't seen him as a wolf before, so I didn't know how he'd play as one. Many wolves have been suspicious from early on before, though I did suspect after his death that he was the traitor since none of us remaining were attracting suspicion and were actually making a good team effort. Actually one thing that made me suspect Greenie was on our side was that on Night 4 we were considering killing Shasta, but then it was Greenie who realised he'd be modfired if he didn't show the next Day. And I would imagine she would've kept that information to herself were she the traitor.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I tried to start a lynch-wagon on Brinn, building on things others had said, and hoping for the best.

It's funny because I actually told my packmates I was happy you voted me. It might've been because you were a traitor trying to start a bandwagon against me or a loyal wolf placing me in a better light since your fate looked pretty bleak at that point. But I knew with your death it was quite possible I'd look more innocent to others thanks to your vote.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Is that why you lot dropped the ball and didn't do one after I was lynched?

Interesting story. Nilp was gone for the rest of the Night, so it was up to me and Greenie. It was a little after two hours before deadline when we agreed with a kill and that I'd submit it. And I did not too long afterward. Since I sent a PM with a question around the time we were deciding the kill (actually even a bit before) and Eonwe replied with no inquiry about our kill, I figured our submitted kill would go through just fine. So imagine my surprise when I found out no one died and it wasn't a save. Apparently we were supposed to have our kill sent two hours before deadline and not a minute later...and all along I had thought we were good as long as it was at least an hour ahead. Yeah, bad me, I've been so distracted with moving and I know that wasn't the only rule I missed. Our kill would've been McCaber, btw.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

(remember "looking Frodo-ish", Brinn?).

Which game was that?