WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Meaning that s/he (which is it, by the way?)

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Lottie's analysis post was interesting, but I found the "gut feeling"-thing slightly eyebrow-raising. The so-called gut feelings were mostly reasoned points, so why call them gut feelings? It just struck me that calling a point a mere gut feeling kind of lessens the responsibility over it - one can, later, claim it was just a gut feeling, not my fault that we lynched an innocent, whoops.

1. He. WW is a he.

2. Good point, actually, I hadn't thought of that. Okay then, my *points against those people* are *look back 'cause I don't want to waste time copy/pasting*

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Innocent
Inzil. I agree with him about winty's vote and thus far he hasn't given me a reason to suspect him.
Lommy. I like her and she's reasonable and has a nice fluffy nose.
skip. I'm just so darn happy he's playing at last that I wouldn't vote for him today even if he revealed he was a wolf. Thus far he hasn't given much of a reason for me to worry though.
Legate. Alright enough.
Brinniel. There's always something about her style that makes me suspect her, however I don't find her overly suspicious at the moment and I approve of her trying to take the discussion out of IC banter.
Nienna. I don't think we've ever got past day 1 with both of us being alive, so just because of that I'll refrain from voting for her today. But she seems innocent enough anyway.

Guilty
Mira. Suspecting newbies is just way too easy, and at the same time she clears Fea's vote (despite the 'on a more serious note' start, the whole comment looked like a joke though).
Morsul. I don't like his reasoning, he seems way too quick to jump to conclusions. But maybe it's just his style. Out of curiosity, how many games have you actually played in, Morsul?
Lottie. I didn't really see any issue with Lottie's earlier behaviour (granted I just skimmed through her first posts because I was in a hurry and didn't think they contained anything very important). However I disagree with her later comments on people - although I don't know if it's because of the content or the style they're written. And that moves her from Nonsense onto the Guilty list. It feels sort of weird that she should make an analysis of a player (Glirdy) who has only posted some random IC banter, like, who makes an analysis on day 1 when there's so little to go on? And hahaha it's sort of grotesque to use the abbreviations WW and SS for the newbies.

Nonsense
Glirdy. Content? Where's the actual content?
Nog. The first one to say he was uneasy about Lottie's behaviour, wasn't he? For relatively little reason, I think ("infamous mode of "no bad person, even insane one, would do that kind of a thing").
winty. Newbie so I won't vote for her/him today. I think people read too much into his/her vote.
sally. Content? Where's the actual content?
Shasta. It's a worse welcome than voting that you suspect me because of my natural lynch-happiness.
Fea. I'm alright with her vote.
Green. She's another one whose tone always sets me off and I always think she's too laid-back to have the village's best interests in mind, but so far I don't havean opinion of her.
Nerwen. I think her reaction to winty's vote was exaggerated and it looks as if she was looking for an easy lynch, but Nerwen and I also have a history of being on each other's throats (usually it starts with me on Nerwen's throat) so I'm going to wait for more evidence (like the word terrible ) before making a judgement.

Non-show
Boro
Isabell

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I'm most likely going to vote for either Morsul or Mira today.

*cough*suspects Agan now 'cause she's almost EXACTLY opposite all of my thoughts*cough*

Although I do agree about Nerwen and Zil. *shrugs*

Plus, I do best looking through IC banter. That's how I found Nerwolf and Wolfwa in Morsul's game. In my mind, IC counts.

EDIT: xed since my last

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Loslote

2. Good point, actually, I hadn't thought of that. Okay then, my *points against those people* are *look back 'cause I don't want to waste time copy/pasting*

Well that's really a bit too easy (as Lommy already pointed out too).

I could of course also wonder about:

1. He. WW is a he.

Like "and where might you know that from, Nightly talks perchance?" although you probably have another explanation for that... or do you? (Only a totally stupid Wolf would, however, do that. Which makes me think that, if this does not have any logical explanation, you might be a Cobbler wanting us to think you are a Wolf and knowing it - thus making a blind shot - which would be funnily underlined now if WW said "I am a she", nah but whatever, I assume this is useless speculation as you probably have an explanation.)

*cough*suspects Agan now 'cause she's almost EXACTLY opposite all of my thoughts*cough*

Don't Cobblers usually try to think in the exactly opposite ways than normal people?

Anyway, all in all... doesn't make it better. I will be around for a while yet, but my main suspect is here already.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I don't think Morsul is a problem, I can see where is he coming from, and it's a totally classical Morsul, after all.

Ookay I've never played with Morsul before so I don't know how he's supposed to behave, but I don't like him nonetheless and he's still a candidate for my vote.

I think Greenie and Legate and Lommy do have a point about Lottie and I might vote for her too but then again I'm unsure because I don't know her style.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

although you probably have another explanation for that... or do you?

I seem to recall seeing her post on Facebook, trying to convince TGEW to join and telling that if she did three Alaskans would be playing... so I assume that's the explanation.

Don't Cobblers usually try to think in the exactly opposite ways than normal people?

Hahaha thanks!

And yeah sally you need to read closer because I'm not going to go through the pains of explaining it all again to you.

[Aganzir]

Lommy that's unfair you know how much I like crows!

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

So if the seer dreams of a player and gets the result 'innocent' then do they not know whom the Cobbler is? Or is it meant to say ordo?

I think in this case innocent = ordo. Both are seen as ordos.

You can't blame the seer entirely if the rest of the village decides to take them at their word.

That's true and that's why everybody should remember that a seer-dreamed innocent is not necessarily innocent after all...

Anyway Izzie seems innocent enough.

Morsul if everyone else calls your 'scientific method' knee-jerk, have you perchance thought there might be something wrong with your definition?

Now I'll go brew some mint leaves and will be soon back to vote.

[Isabellkya]

Well the Cursed said Ord and the Cobbler said innocent. Wasn't entirely sure whether it was a clerical error, or meant to be specific.

[Morsul the Dark]

First post vote followed by "Day one who cares?" then a bit of the Tweedles poem.

++WintyWinty

[Nogrod]

(~~~) *grin emerging*

My tea-time is coming to an end as well as I have a tough morning tomorrow. So a few thoughts, a list-like thingy, a vote and to sleep...

I don't think that "seen as an ordo" or "seen as an innocent" is anything more than just two different phrases to say the same thing. Otherwise it would be pointless to make that distinction as either one would then be clear to the seer and WilwAlirin could have just told us so.

I'm also a bit uneasy about this quite rapid lynching-queue that emerged for Lottie. It's not that I think her particularly innocent (vice versa) but the easiness by which it just came about... Needs to look at it.

Someone (Agan?) compared the retrackies to the phantom's game where people had 10 extra-votes and how the wolves kept them and in the end ran over the innocents with their pile of votes. I don't think that is a good comparison. A retraction is a good idea when you are not sure you can be back before the DL and need to vote just to be sure you vote - and then you suddenly are able to come back and major things have happened meanwhile. I don't like retractions everyDay or any unlimited retrackies, but one for the whole game is quite good: it serves the possible need and doesn't give too much leeway for the wolves to play tactics with them. But well, anybody's decision.

Originally Posted by Agan

Hey Nog you posted the same post twice.

Yeah. I saw it and deleted the other one.

Heh, I can see there is a new fashion in town, getting rid of the retrackies... how nice.

(~~~) *grin vanishing*

[satansaloser2005]

A note:

I've a friend that's ill and am organizing a bit of "yay let's make the poor girl feel better" stuff. That said, I may or may not be going to a meeting in a couple hours (no, really, I haven't decided if I'm going yet or not) so I may not be around much. I'm working on analyzing the votes between all the other stuff but I don't seem to be able to multitask worth a muffin (<3) today so I'm a bit slow.

[Isabellkya]

I for one, will not be throwing away my retraction. As I can imagine I'm in the same boat as perhaps Morsul, if I am understanding him correctly.

There have been a few times where I've debated over my vote, then when I posted it. I ended up cross-posting with others whom decided to vote for the same person. Then I got a feeling of wolves jumping ont he wagon, and wanted to retract it. The most recent time I can think of.. was I believe Nerwen wolf.. and Loslote was the lynchee.

I dislike Legate's vote for Loslote. He mentioned how he was uneasy with how the wagon and votes against her formed.. yet stated she was still his primary suspect. I would think the unease would have more of an effect on your voting choice.. it doesn't seem like it mattered. Perhaps you said it, just to say it.

[Morsul the Dark]

Had this argument last time maybe I should do this "so and so "FEELS" off" somehow acceptable me seeing something I find odd and pointing it out that's weird?

Anywho... No one pops out want to vote agan... but won't because That Would be knee jerk... I do have to vote soon though

(Responding to post 80 forgot to quote it.)

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Darling, I already explained it.

Eurgh. Sorry. My concentration is poor today.

I know this reasoning is outrageously bad, but I'll tell it anyway because it's what I'm thinking: I'm kind of afraid that Lottie will become this typical Day 1 easy lynch (ordo), but then again, she's the only one I have any valid point at all, so

++ Lottie


EDIT: eek x-ed since Boro

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Eurgh. Sorry. My concentration is poor today.

I know this reasoning is outrageously bad, but I'll tell it anyway because it's what I'm thinking: I'm kind of afraid that Lottie will become this typical Day 1 easy lynch (ordo), but then again, she's the only one I have any valid point at all, so

++ Lottie


EDIT: eek x-ed since Boro

Sorry, dear, but could you clarify this? Do you mean you have any valid points on her or that she's the only one with valid points? I'm not sure what you mean.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Eurgh. Sorry. My concentration is poor today.

I know this reasoning is outrageously bad, but I'll tell it anyway because it's what I'm thinking: I'm kind of afraid that Lottie will become this typical Day 1 easy lynch (ordo), but then again, she's the only one I have any valid point at all, so

Aww, think it's an easy lynch, but still go for it because cant think of anything else? Sad story. I still call it hogwash haug-hwassssh and wolves hwol-vee-ss like their hogs I hear. (Question: do they like they're hogs washed too? )

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

*falls from horse*

Did the rules say we have to play mad instead of just having a WW game in a mad setting? Seriously, this is one of the oddest Day 1 beginnings I have ever seen. I dislike the votes so far, though that isn't to say anything on whether they are necessarily signs of wolvery or not.

My contribution toDay will be pretty much horrible - this is the worst possible day for me to be playing Werewolf - but I promise to be much more active in the Days to come! I've got to dash, but I'll return later. Try to be sensible, meanwhile. (It's easy for me to say, of course, given that I won't be around for most of toDay.. )

First post. Doesn't like the early votes from Fea and ww. Explains she wouldn't be around much.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

*falls from horse*
Back again! I'm feeling slightly hyper right now, so don't be annoyed if I'm not making much sense.. But here come some impressions of toDay.
I don't see Winty's vote as suspicious - nor innocent-looking, for that matter - it just is. Meaning that s/he (which is it, by the way?) could have done that just as well as a wolf as an innocent, and thus drawing conclusions on that seems weird to me. But then, everything here is weird.

Agan is lovely and provides a lot of substance (I'd raise my hat if I had one, unfortunately I only wear a helmet), I don't suspect her - but then, I always suspect her when she's innocent, so maybe she's a wolf now. Gah, I'm flip-flopping. Family vice. Sorry.

Lottie's analysis post was interesting, but I found the "gut feeling"-thing slightly eyebrow-raising. The so-called gut feelings were mostly reasoned points, so why call them gut feelings? It just struck me that calling a point a mere gut feeling kind of lessens the responsibility over it - one can, later, claim it was just a gut feeling, not my fault that we lynched an innocent, whoops.

Lommy is acting purposefully mysterious which strikes me as weird - she's having this manner of "I know something you others don't, let's see if I care to share it!" I don't quite know what to make of it, it's not usual her but then I'm not sure if it's necessarily suspicious either.

Okay, enough ranting, I don't remember if I had something to say about someone else still, so I'll let Lommy post and go to sleep and then do the same myself. Back soon babes!

Doesn't think much can be read into ww's vote. A small list of impressions of three people. Doesn't care for Lottie calling her points against people 'gut feelings', and it would seem this was the basis for her suspicion of Lottie.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Eurgh. Sorry. My concentration is poor today.

I know this reasoning is outrageously bad, but I'll tell it anyway because it's what I'm thinking: I'm kind of afraid that Lottie will become this typical Day 1 easy lynch (ordo), but then again, she's the only one I have any valid point at all, so

highlight]++ Lottie[/highlight]

Votes Lottie, which, since it followed that insane vote for her from Fea, looked strange to me. I thought she was getting in on a bandwagon, but I was willing to give her a pass because of her RL busy day.