WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by skip spence

But briefly, voting for yourself like that Morsul is just... wrong.

Sometimes people do it (do you know Nilpaurion Felagund? It was his trademark). And I must admit that I can understand Morsul's point: if he's innocent (which I think he is) and everybody just keeps suspecting him, it can get quite frustrating. Like, lynch me now and be done with it!

Originally Posted by skip

And a vote on me. Have been half-expecting that for a while now and frankly I'm surprised it took so long.

Why? Do you have a reason to expect people would vote for you?

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

the case is so good that it is suspicious. Not sure if that makes sense, but it doesn't have the innocent trademark of being unsure.

Hey that's not fair!
And what do you mean by unsure? I read her posts and wrote what impressions I got. Then I made my conclusion about her based on the said impressions. I'm not sure she's guilty, but I just fail to see why appearing unsure when making an analysis is a sign of innocence.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Agan - would be such typical wolf-Agan to bring forwards points that make herself look worse in order to make herself look more innocent. To be honest the only wolf-vote being Nog on Day4 doesn't look good on her, nor does the pursuit of lynchable Inzil on the Days when Sally or Glirdy was in danger.

What points are you talking about? When I said it's more likely Nog's fellow didn't try to save him, I didn't consider it something that would somehow incriminate me. You mean I shouldn't say anything that doesn't look entirely good on me because if I do it means I'm a wolf, even if it was helpful to us? And really I'm getting slightly bothered about the fact that you keep saying Nog was my & Shasta's first wolf-vote. Or do you know for sure that Mira and Morsul are innocent?
As for the "lynchable Inzil", you might notice it was partly my effort that made him lynchable - because he was my top suspect. Glirdy and sally pretty much slipped under my radar all the time - which you should know they wouldn't have done if I had been their fellow.
I don't like your points against me. They're not enough to make me think you're a wolf after all you've done, it's just that they're bad.

[skip spence]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Why? Do you have a reason to expect people would vote for you?

Well, the points that Nerwen brought up are fairly obvious, aren't they. Not voting on now proved wolves the last two days and seemingly standing up for at least one of them, namely Glirdan. With result in hand these points gave me a good night's IC sleep confident that the remaining wolf would not come after me.

[skip spence]

Like, lynch me now and be done with it!

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Yeah but it's very childish, isn't it? And not at all helpful for the village if he is innocent, nor helpful for him if he is a wolf. It could easily be a desperate bluff.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by skip spence

Yeah but it's very childish, isn't it? And not at all helpful for the village if he is innocent, nor helpful for him if he is a wolf. It could easily be a desperate bluff.

If you keep playing werewolf, some day you'll find out how it feels when everybody suspects you and uses everything you say against you even when you try to help. It's sometimes nicer to die right away than to stay alive and constantly top everybody's suspicion list. Makes one feel like a burden to the village, and in a way it's true because if everybody concentrates on the suspicious innocent, the real wolf gets to pass by unnoticed.

Huh a couple of days ago I wouldn't have believed I'd be defending Morsul...

[Aganzir]

I excluded dead people + Lottie because they didn't seem so important. I also left out Nog's day 4 posts, mainly because I personally think we can't make much of them plus I want to go to sleep. Sorry I'm not any more useful.
Also, I hope I didn't miss any posts... I just searched the thread for "nog."

Nog on others

DAY 1
-says Agan is more concerned about her image
-attacks Inzil for saying winty's vote receives scrutiny
-disagrees with Agan about getting rid of the retrackies
-gives winty a newbie pass on day 1
-says Mira could be a sneaky wolf but voting for her would be a shot in the dark
-some things about Agan bother him but not enough to lynch her
-can't read Shasta but his jump on Morsul looks bad
-Nerwen speaks sense and is dangerous "unless one has reason not to suspect her," hopes her argument with Agan wasn't wolf-on-wolf
-Legate speaks sense and is dangerous "unless one has reason not to suspect him"
-Morsul darn suspicious = normal Morsul, easy voting target
-skip has been making sense
-Brinn reasonable and scary

DAY 2
-says there are points against*[Glirdan and] Brinn to a lesser degree (& fair points against sally & Zil)
-Agan more innocentish than not
-skip feels good
-Mira doesn't feel honest and her winty vote is too easy, resemblesShasta's ramblings about Morsul/winty
-Morsul gets lynched a lot, not saying he isn't a wolf but he's a too easy suspect
-winty looks suspicious but is most likely just a newbie

DAY 3
-if Glirdan's a wolf Lommy looks innocent, skip harder to place
-d2 Agan added a new voting candidate (Zil), possibly trying to save sally & Glirdy
-d2 Shasta's vote isn't the best for helping a fellow but introduced a new candidate (Morsul)
-d2 Mira voted easy (winty), introduced a new candidate as well
-d2 Morsul possibly a wolf playing it risky
-d2 Nerwen looks good for adding a vote for a wolf
-d2 Legate & winty made good votes
-d2 Brinn's vote good too but she didn't mention Glirdan at all
-notes that skip defends Glirdan
-tries to buddy up with Agan who said she didn't get Green's suspicion of him
-if Glirdan's a wolf, Shasta & Mira look quite bad and Agan relatively bad
-doesn't know about Mira, tells we can lynch her if we want but he doesn't have an opinion

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Others on Nog

DAY 1
-Agan has him in Nonsense category
-Lommy is disturbed by his manner of creeping and grinning but otherwise he's ok
-Legate agrees that Lottiewagon is strange
-Brinn agrees with him about the reason for keeping her retraction
-Shasta says Nog misinterprets mistakes again

DAY 2
-if Legate had to choose a wolf from each bandwagon, he'd say Brinn or Nog from the Fea wagon
-Legate agrees with Nog that if sally had wanted to save Lottie she wouldn't have voted for him
-Lommy doesn't like Nog's reaction to her & Green's Lottie votes, names Nog as one of her suspects
-Agan is not on Nog's wavelength but thinks he looks good & wolfish Nog wouldn't have brought up points against Fea
-Nerwen thinks Nog's row with Inzil doesn't look good but might be a language problem
-Brinn finds Nog reasonable
-Agan doesn't think Nog is guilty but isn't convinced about his innocence
-Legate says he's hard to work it (listed under in uffish thought he stood)

DAY 3
-Shasta criticises Nog's calling winty an easy lynch, suggests saying that is just an excuse to suspect anyone who suspects winty
-skip doesn't like Green's suspicion of Nog
-Nerwen agrees with Nog that Glirdan's playing style is always suspicious

DAY 4
-Shasta didn't like Nog's insistence that many people were voting for the easy lynches when Nog did it himself too
-Nerwen makes an analysis (d1) and says he doesn't look furry but she wouldn't be too surprised if he was
-Legate thinks the Greenie kill might have been intended to frame Nog although he could be a wolf too; Green didn't necessarily dream of Nog
-Lommy believes Green dreamt of Nog
-Nerwen says he could go either way (d2 posts)
-Nerwen seriously considers voting for him after post 587
-Brinn thinks the possibility of Nogwolf is realistic although it could've also been a framing attempt (unlikely though)
-Nerwen says he doesn't look as bad as Glirdan did but is leaning furry
-Lommy quite confident about Nog's guilt
-Agan not surprised if Nog's a wolf, prepared to vote for him
-Legate repeats the possibility of the wolves wanting to frame Nog
-Agan votes for Nog
-Lommy votes for Nog
-Legate rambles about Nog; "possibly suspicious but don't make sense"; wonders whether he should join the Nogwagon
-skip is starting to get worried about Nog but votes for Shasta
-Shasta will probably vote for Nog
-Legate suspects Nog
-Shasta votes Nog
-Legate votes Nog
-Brinn says Glirdan's d1 comment on Nog looks very wolf-on-wolf
-Brinn votes Nog, saying she's surprised if he's innocent
-winty votes for Nog
-Nerwen votes for Nog but "if anybody else really jumps out I may switch"