WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Macalaure]

Quick analysis of the late votes yesterDay:

Even before I asked around, Nerwen voices suspicion of Nogrod. She doesn't mind lynching Eonwe and suspects Autume. She later goes on to ponder voting Eonwe and is the only one at this point to actually give reasons. After it's narrowed down to him or Nienna, she declines voting for her.

Phantom doesn't have any suspects. I start to think this is suspicious, since I tend to expect more from him. Replying to my question, he pulls Nienna out of his hat and is willing to shoot in the dark with Lottie. He's really vague around Nogrod, first saying that being wrong doesn't make him evil, then asking me whether we should lynch him before finding out. It creeps me out a little, since he's obviously willing to go along with lynching Nogrod as long as somebody else does the work. Passiveness from the phantom?
Then there's:

Originally Posted by tp

Yeah, whatever, I'll try Nienna if you want, Mac

What? While I was very willing to lynch her, he brought her up in the first place. This really looks like he knows she's innocent, doesn't mind lynching her, but tries to put the blame on me.

Originally Posted by tp

Okay, but seriously, are we going to take a submarine shot or not?

I kind of took over the lead of "let's not lynch Eonwe", that's true, but the way he's defering to my leadership and tries to keep his hands cleaner than mine is unsettling. He then officially narrows the possibilities down to Eonwe or Nienna, however. No mention of Nogrod anymore. After the Nogrod-votes come in, he saves him by voting Eonwe.

Autume doesn't know about Nogrod and is not eager to go after Lottie. She's willing to go after anyone else, though, a statement so general it makes me uneasy. She later states about Nienna that there's not much there, but that that's the case with other people, too, and she'd give it a try. Don't know what to think of that. She also spends some time defending herself from Loslote. Later she says she'd try Nogrod and does so after Lottie took the lead. She's passive again, but that's the way she is, I guess. If the Nogrod-waggon had been successful, her vote would have stood out, so I don't think a wolf would have made it.

Loslote defends herself a lot and dares us to lynch her. Declines Nienna, is willing to go for Nogrod and then does so. She doesn't really take much part in the actual who-to-vote-for debate, which makes me feel better.

Should be find Nienna to be a wolf, we'll have some nice pointers on Nerwen and Lottie, right? Probably not. They wouldn't have been so clear that they won't vote for her if they were packmates.



Comments on toDay:

The phantom is way too optimistic. We were lucky to not lynch a heavy gifted, but the way of our votings have been very clueless. I would really like to know who you actually suspect.

Lottie made a post that takes longer to scroll past than it takes to read others.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Another one is the deal-making at the end of D2 where phantom and Mac (with the late confirmation of Nerwen) decided between me and Eonwë

Dealmaking looks different, I think. And if you closely read the discussion, you were barely discussed between us. It was others who chose to go for you. In the end, all discussion between me and tp was pointless.

I understand the reasons behind Nogrod's vote. On the other hand, he did choose a person who could conceivably be turned into a bandwaggon that will eventually run against his own.

Though it might be painful to plough through it again, I think we'll need to have a close look at the debate around Eonwe yesterDay and who gave what reasons. There have to be some bad points made.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I think the most likely thing is that Boro was a false seer and dreamt of Eonwe as a wolf. [...] If this is the case then it’s very good news for us because we would now have two True Seers rather than two False.

Don't bet too much money on this. We absolutely do not know for certain Boro dreamt of Eonwe, so we don't know whether he was real or not. Also, as neat as it would be to be able to tell the realness of both seers at once, Hestia took her pick during Night 2, so she could have picked the still-alive Boro.