WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I just noticed something.
Pitch, why were you hinting at/about Boro late in Day one?

I'm not aware of doing any such thing. Where was that?

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Legate

I would expect seasoned players - those who have been Wolves many times - to go mainly after the Seer. Which does not seem to be the case at least of the first Day, in my opinion. Ergo, for this reason, it would make more sense to suspect the players like LRH, BG, Nessa, perhaps Mänwe, and others, but not e.g. Mac, Rikae, Pitch, Zil, Agan, Boro... those are the people whom I would expect to make more "logical" kills.

What if you don't have any leads regarding the seer? Then the logical choice is to go after one that gives you an advantage during the Day.

Anyway, if we think the wolves went after the seer, then toDay's lynch is a total no-brainer: Skip, not any of the ones you list.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Mac, I don't think it's so unlikely for a wolf to think either of two people might be a seer who dreamt him. Thinking that, the pack might eliminate both at once and plan to pass it off as a bluff, and, if that doesn't work, throw the "almost certainly dreamed" wolf under the bus. I would, anyway.

With the extra kill as long as they're all together, I find it extremely unlikely that any bus-throwing is taking place at the moment.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm here now! Let me see.

Valier did not strike me as a seer. I suppose the wolves feared her reputation as a formidable wolf-spotter, and decided to end things.

I need to go through Lommy's posts but, as far as my memory serves me, this strikes me as another odd kill.

Could be exactly what they want, and I'm loathe to fall into a trap, but I think they would have killed me by now if Nessa was a wolf. Could be time for a re-think on my part. Need to start looking critically at these helpful, co-operative loudmouths.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by elronds_daughter

I wish I had something substantial to contribute, but I'm afraid this is all still sort of a jumbled mess in my head, and other people are making more sense out of it than I can.

Ah but you have. You don't have to come up with anything original, just your opinions on everybody suffice for now. That means we have an easier time figuring out your fellows if you turn out to be a wolf.

I'm not sure what to make of all this talk about the quiet ones, me being one of that number.

It's mostly just rubbish as Greenie pointed out (although with kinder words). I like to lynch a quiet player if I don't have a better suspect because it's often easier for them to slide by unnoticed while the louder ones tear each other apart. But speculating on whether a certain kill points at a quiet or a loud player... that's of no importance whatsoever.

I think I need a cup of tea to clear my head.

Cobbler hint!

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

perhaps the wolves together are only deciding on 1 person, and then whoever the Cobbler suggests is who their 2nd person is

If the wolves decide to go with the cobbler's suggestion, it means they've weighed the situation and the consequences of the kill and know exactly what they are doing. They wouldn't follow the cobbler blindly just to distance themselves from the kill. I guess your suggestion is reasonable enough, but the first thing it brought to my mind was either a wolwarin or a wibbler (sorry ) telling the other(s), "See, you and I know we've been doing this!"

Originally Posted by Rikae

The big head?

Aww no! It's just that your influence in this village covers... just about everything.

Okay continuing my skip analysis now.

[Cailín]

Well, I've been pondering some more and all I have come up with is a list of reasons why I stopped playing werewolves in the first place. Won't share that one with you though.

Those Who Appear Innocent

Eomer of the Rohirrim - I am honestly just mentioning him first because he's top of the list and all. I would love to suspect him, but I am fairly sure he is either innocent or will in the next few days declare his wolvery in some obvious way.

Macalaure - I find him sensible.

A Little Green - Her contributions today have been helpful and I found myself agreeing with many of her points.

Shasta - He has been fairly quiet though. I wonder why?

Aganzir - Could fool me.

Those Who Are Silent

elronds_daughter - Yea, she's quiet. Yea, she made some shady calls. I do not yet see evil.

Blind Guardian - a relentless and somewhat thoughtless pursuit of Nessa here. I find this suspicious.

Nessa - We talk about her a lot, but there's no answer. Could she really be a wolf?

Manwe - has been completely flying under the radar so far. One to watch.

The Unpopular Ones

Pitchwife - seems to have gathered a lot of suspicion, backed off, changed ways... I find his analyses convincing and lucid enough, but his self preservation instincts may seem subtle wolf rather than shocked innocent.

Inziladun - has without a doubt been a distraction: strange.

Skip Spence - looks worst after last night though I cannot find the double Seer attempt story convincing - Lommy's suspicion of him was so unfixed.

The Others

Rikae - She could be either. Or. And dangerous.

Boromir88 - Strangely silent. Whether he is trying a new technique and hide in the crowd - banking on his reputation to see him through for a while - or just uninterested... I am not sure.

Legate of Amon Lanc - I do not like how he is basing all his reasoning on meta-game hunches. His posts also seem jumbled, unstructured and filled with awkward sentences: either he is being overly deliberate (wolvish behaviour) or just confused.

Wilwarin - I am not convinced of her guilt but I do not like any of her posts (to which I will add a sorry Wilwa, because you have always been quite friendly really).

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I'm not aware of doing any such thing. Where was that?

When you repeatedly and prominently used a word associated with him in one particular post.

Originally Posted by Mac

With the extra kill as long as they're all together, I find it extremely unlikely that any bus-throwing is taking place at the moment.

If they consider one of their number doomed anyway, why shouldn't they use him to make themselves look good?

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Rikae

When you repeatedly and prominently used a word associated with him in one particular post

And that was what? Sorry, I've got no clue what you're talking about.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

And that was what? Sorry, I've got no clue what you're talking about.

Never mind. I must be mistaken.