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What I meant was if the votes are too spread out, there's no way to lynch anyone else.
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Woman of Secret Shadow
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I was thinking while writing, sorry if the phrasing is unclear - I was comparing Boro's cobbler show to mine that I dropped after one day. He too should have known it wasn't worth the effort because he didn't have the information he needed in order to make the wolves believe him. But he continued it for four days, being totally useless.
If the votes are too spread out, there's no way to lynch a wolf you mean. If an innocent votes for an innocent, or a couple of innocents vote for different wolves, the wolves can easily either hold their votes or retract - and win.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Okay this became very focussed on early Day 4; Mac and Boro
First thing I noticed is this odd post by Boro (to Mac)
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Mac, you still haven't spelled out your case on me by the way? Reading back I was also reminded of Rikae's song. Loved it! ![]()
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Yeah, I'll be away toMorrow (Thursday/Friday) and it's doubtful if I can make an appearance then I'm afraid, though I'll promise to try best as I can. If nothing out of the ordinary happens I fully intend to vote Boro just so you know.
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Now for packing. Should at least check the thread out before DL but will probably not be that productive. Edit: x'ed with 2 Cailin
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(See I'm only ever good at this game when I get to be a baddie.) It's of course possible Pitch's first suggestion was Nessa and that's why he went after her so strongly the following day.
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Finally, I have a break to curl up on my couch with tea and just relax! I should be able to pop on here and there until DL.
I'll do this now, since things likely won't change: ++Manwe Though I do agree that it seems very likely Shasta dreamt of a Manwe-wolf, there is this tiny part of me that is remembering the last (and only other) time Shasta was a Seer, where after he died we were convinced he had dreamt a wolf, but we were wrong. I do think this time is different though, because he's approached it in a different way then he did last time (with the red-green thing, it's far clearer, last time it was a vague suspicion), and I don't think he would do that same thing twice, but I'm still slightly paranoid. ![]() I will come back on in a bit and give my opinion on everyone else.
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Well, here goes. If nothing else, we all need to vote together.
++Manwe
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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I've been relying too heavily on what others reported about Shasta, and I feel the need to look for myself.
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I see no dream-hints here at all. Thus we can assume his first dream was innocent, but that's all this shows. Perhaps he dreamt of Kitanna? If he dreamt of an ordo, I would expect something more clear than this, unless he deemed clarity too dangerous to be worth the trouble at this early point. Going by his later list (Agan, Legate & me) either Agan or I could have been the dream here. Day Two Quote:
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List Feels good about Eomer, Agan, Cailin, me, Mac, Kitanna and Lommy. Of these, his statements on Eomer and I are similar and these and the one on Agan (and Kitanna, of course) are the strongest statements. Cailin & Lommy are "no warning signs" and Mac "I hope I'm not giving him a pass...". His comments on ???'s Skip and Manwe suggest he might dream them. Feels slightly bad about Boro, Pitch, Nessa, Wilwa. Comment about Pitch looks like future dream possibility, too. Feels moderately bad about Lottie & Inzil. "No-nonsense bad" about Legate. Quote:
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Day 4: List Manwe tops his list to "look at today". Lots of people, however, are on that list... actually, everyone except Nessa, me, Legate and Agan is either "under the radar", "pinging my radar", and/or needs to be "looked at today". We four are the only ones he gives a clear opinion on. He also flipflops from his stance of the day before on Nessa without much reason. List As much discussed already, me, Agan and Legate in the "green" list. Green-yellow has Nessa at the top. Too ambiguous if he dreamt her, or does he just want to avoid making his change of opinion to obvious? Wilwa and Cailin here too, Skip, Ed & Mac yellow, Boro, Greenie, Pitch & Manwe yellow-orange. Doesn't seem like a good idea for a seer to put a dreamed wolf in such a big group. As mentioned, no red. Manwe-analysis I don't agree with those who say this analysis looks like it's designed to back up his conclusion, but this: Quote:
Nessa? Not because of Manwe being a wolf, certainly, as he voted for Ed - possibly just to prepare for a shift to going after Manwe. Analysis of Cailin Quote:
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That's the part I love the most about wolvery.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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![]() The thing about Boro I don't get: Wolf-Boro would have to expect that the real cobbler would get lynched (or accidentally killed) eventually. He'd have to be quite confident to think he can pull it off to fool us. Maybe he's just feeling experimental? Ordos are usually most prone to just trying something. Or maybe he knew it was a suicide mission in the long run, but thought he could avoid a seer dream this way and secure the two-kill advantage long enough? His posts toDay make me feel a lot better about Skip. (Of course, I'm only saying this so I don't have to actually come up with a justification for my over-confident knee-jerk suspicion. ![]() |
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