WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar

[Aganzir]

I would like to remind each innocent in this village that we need to vote together today. Despite Boro's behaviour Mänwe is the best bet because as Legate said, it's better to lose because of misinterpreting the seer's last words than because of ignoring them.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I would like to remind each innocent in this village that we need to vote together today. Despite Boro's behaviour Mänwe is the best bet because as Legate said, it's better to lose because of misinterpreting the seer's last words than because of ignoring them.

In either case we lose, I would take winning because of interpretting the seer correctly thank you very much.

Let's look how he treated Legate, before dreaming of him.

Post 234. He starts suspecting Legate for flip flopping all over the place about Inzil and other reasons.

Post 252. He feels "moderately bad" about Inzil and Lottie. You could call this his orange-yellow zone, yes? He feels "no-nonsense bad" about Legate.

Post 274. he votes Lottie but says of Legate.

And in any case there doesn't seem to be as much support for a Legate lynch as I'd hoped for, so.

I remind you he has not dreamed of Legate at this point, but clearly was suspecting him, and even said he'd prefer voting Legate over Lottie. However, since there was no support for Legate he didn't. Then the next day, he comes in and suddenly switches to Legate looks innocent after "re-reading him."

So, he dreamed of Legate, yes? Do you not see the same exact pattern with how Shasta reacted to Manwe yesterday? Seriously, do you not see it, or are you just choosing to ignore it and hide behind "well we must listen to the seer even if we are misinterpretting him and lose."

Post 493. Reads into Manwe and finds him suspicious, saying he may be in the "red" category.

Post 502. States he really wants to vote for Manwe.

Come on Agan, you're better at analyzing and looking at the finer details than this. Shasta followed the same pattern with Manwe, as he did with Legate, before he had dreamed and known about Legate. So, why are you pleading for the innocents to follow the seers words even if we're misinterpretting it? Sure you wanted to wake the sleeping bear, I feel life in me again.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Come on Agan, you're better at analyzing and looking at the finer details than this. Shasta followed the same pattern with Manwe, as he did with Legate, before he had dreamed and known about Legate. So, why are you pleading for the innocents to follow the seers words even if we're misinterpretting it? Sure you wanted to wake the sleeping bear, I feel life in me again.

I think it would be hilarious if we lynched someone else than Mänwe and the wolves won. Shasta would be so upset about being beaten with his own strategy... as you well know, Boro!

If he hadn't dreamed of Mänwe, he would have found another way to suspect him than saying he's the first to enter his red category. Simple as that. End of discussion (on my part at least).

edit: xed wit Mänwe.

With my post and with Shasta's eye falling on me as it did and then his subsequent death

Was that a confession?

[Mänwe]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I would like to remind each innocent in this village that we need to vote together today. Despite Boro's behaviour Mänwe is the best bet because as Legate said, it's better to lose because of misinterpreting the seer's last words than because of ignoring them.

I would like to remind each innocent in this village to come to their own conclusions. I would rather be lynched because you actually consider me innocent than lynched because I am "the best bet" or you were encouraged to "vote together" or I am to be "the most likely to be lynched therefore to vote anyone else would be a 'throwaway vote'" . Because I sincerely despise that term.

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Rikae, no it was not a joke and I did not offer it as an explanation.

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I might have voiced a misgiving or two had I thought it would be heard

Suffice to say, my guilt is being based upon interpretation of posts at its hardest. With my post and with Shasta's eye falling on me as it did and then his subsequent death, I have fallen most foul of the adage, "in the wrong place at the wrong time". So if folk wish to incriminate me because of it, so be it. But don't say I didn't warn you in the clearest of ways for you doom the others and hand victory to Melkor and his minions (who I will add have played very well, and are most deserving of a place at his side- the Deciever has been given a run for his money!).

Edit: I should listen to Boro and Cailins points since the start of the day, worth noting.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Boro

Granted, the other time Shasta was the seer, as Agan said I was the cobbler. But nothing I said about how Shasta-seer would act was false. I just may have distorted and confused what he actually said to suit my cobbler-aims in that game.

Hmm Boro, you do realise that the only time Shasta was the seer before this, he was lynched on Day 1 so you couldn't really claim you know how a Shasta-seer leaves his hints.

Oh, and might as well:

++ Manwe

[Cailín]

If Manwe is not a wolf, we are all doomed.

Spreading the votes in this situation, especially considering the fact that (almost) Known Innocents Aganzir and Legate have chosen this path, could be fatal to us all.

++ Manwe

I am not convinced Boromir88 is a wolf (his behaviour was odd, but could be frustrated ordo and I agree, as must be obvious, with what he says today). I am also not convinced (why is anyone else?) that Nessa is innocent. I am not even fully convinced that Manwe is a wolf. Vamos a ver...

[Cailín]

Oh and Manwe, if you are so innocent (and after toDay I doubt you are), please share some of your thoughts on the rest of the players. In other words: leave some trails.

Sorry - I always seem to be double posting.