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Old 02-02-2011, 03:56 PM   #1
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So, I was wondering– does the spirit of Blind Guardian retain whatever allegiance it had in life? Or is she now a neutral party? Moddess?
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:02 PM   #2
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:27 PM   #3
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Thank you, O Moddess.

Well, for once we know what the Dead are talking about (without cheating).
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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Speaking of the Dead, who are they supposed to be checking? Nessa? ToDay's lynch? Nessa-only-if-Lommy's-innocent? Or what?

Anyway, I have to go now, so–

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Old 02-02-2011, 05:14 PM   #5
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Speaking of the Dead, who are they supposed to be checking? Nessa? ToDay's lynch? Nessa-only-if-Lommy's-innocent? Or what?
They should check Nessa if Lommy was innocent. That's the best way to turn yesterday's lynch into actual information. I'm going to continue pushing it and assume that the Dead will do it. I mean- why should they honor a vote from us if we vote for them to do something that isn't the best course of action?

I'm going to work on the assumption that our proven innocents (Beren & Luthien) have enough sway down there to make sure everyone falls in line and does what makes the most sense tactically.

Green- nice case there. Hmmm... *looks at Sally*
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Lottie and phantom are topping my suspect list. I think that was an orchestrated double-lynch. And both of their attempts to pass it off as no big deal, with Lottie's "see it was a good exchange, because of Glorfindel!" Not going to convince me a double-lynch is a good exchange.
Why don't you double-lynch us then?

But really, I'm quite curious which of us you'll feel keen to go for, because as the day wears on I assume you'll need to focus on one or the other. Just a warning- if you choose me, I doubt I'll side with you.

Lottie on the other hand.... It's been days since she's given me a Rep vote. Very suspicious.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:32 PM   #6
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Okay, more seriously now, I will do a Lottie read-over, as I promised earlier that I would (to either Boro or Ang... can't remember which).

*off to read*
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:06 PM   #7
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REVIEW OF LOTTIE

Day 1 early- Lottie banters. Whatever. She always does. I usually don't put much stock in early banter by serial banterers.
Day 1 later- Lottie makes her first serious post and attempts to appear unconcerned with death and takes a shot at Manwe (our eventual lynch). Nerwen soon after makes a nice point about how Lottie's post curiously assumes the innocence of Nog and Shasta.

Day 2 early- Makes a list. Critical of Lommy and Boro.
Day 2 later- Backs Nogrod. Says Phantom as Cobbler makes Lommy look better, which is odd seeing as a Cobbler has no clue who the Wolves are, so why would a Cobbler attack indicate innocence? Says that leaves her prime suspect at Boro.
Day 2 later still- Continues to defend Nog as best she can (in particular talking with me) but eventually votes against him after Agan's "I'm Luthien!" trap.

Day 3- Ah, I see Lommy actually brought up the same points from Day 2, and Lottie attempts to answer them. Her explanations aren't complete nonsense. I do at least put stock in her assertion that Cobbler is probably ruled out for her. She's either innocent or Wolf. Her comment about Fea not being a strong Seer candidate seems to imply that she's gone over people with a Seer comb, though of course even innocents do that sometimes.
Day 3 later- Says she's okay with offing Lommy or Nessa, but prefers the latter. Moves to a more firm Nessa position. Votes to cause the tie. In her defense it easily could have been a cross-post, but of course if she had been keeping track of who was around and which way they were likely to vote she could've seen it coming.

Day 4 early- Her reaction to Ang placing her in a pack of three is to defend herself and the others. I may be mistaken, but a more innocent reaction would be to fear that you are being tied to Wolves, since they do like to tie themselves to innocent (to bring them down if they happen to fall). I would think an innocent would be a bit more paranoid about that possibility, where as a brilliant Wolfish response might be to appear innocent by defending everyone involved and in the process possibly win over those you are linked to, which goes back to the Wolves linking themselves purposefully with innocents.

After the lynch (both yesterday and today) she seems quite apologetic about causing the double, which might make me more suspicious of her. I mean, she did say that she could see lynching both of them, and she certainly favored Nessa dying and her vote killed Nessa, so why be sorry? I can only assume it's a show for appearances.

So okay, you know what? Going into this reread I really don't think I had much of a bias, but Lottie now is looking quite bad to me.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:37 PM   #8
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Anyway, I have to go now, so–

++Elra

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<sigh> Yes, I know I look awfully suspicious. No, I'm not evil. Though the ones who are are probably smooth enough that I'm buying into whatever they're saying. Trust me, when I'm evil, you'll know. I have no capacity for lying, even in text.

Well, today's been dreadful, so apologies if I'm seeming a bit, er, grumbly. The working parts of my brain have been smashed to tiny bits and scattered thoroughly, so my vote tonight will probably be more than a little on the random side. I'll read through everything and try to comprehend as much as I can before I cast it, though.

(One thing I've noticed so far is that people seem to think Boro has taken his "let's give the Dead suggestions" to the extreme of "we're going to tell the Dead what to do now, and they've got to obey us so we don't get confused and lose". Which in a very brief scan seems to be the case. Which I'm not fond of.......blechh. Must investigate further.)

EDIT: x'ed with Phantoms.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:48 PM   #9
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