WW LXXXVII - The Valley Forge

[Rikae]

Wow, I actually like phantom's plan for once. He's losing his edge.

Nah, really, if there are loopholes we should exploit them - that's part of the game. I kind of doubt the KD feels/will feel likewise, but it's interesting to see the reactions: Eruhen's claim that it's no different from an ordinary day one is absurd and has a whiff of desperation about it, and I don't know what McCobbler is doing (but I know for a fact he's not the KD!)

I'm going to go refresh my memory of the rules and roles...


EDIT: Please ignore the cubbies-blah-blah stuff, I don't know where it came from and I can't get rid of it!
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[Rikae]

Okay, no cobbler (but he'll always be McCobbler to me).

This seems to be a flaw in the plan, though:
"This player will appear to be one of the members of the Valley Forge."

Does this mean the KD isn't revealed on his death?
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[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Okay, no cobbler (but he'll always be McCobbler to me).

This seems to be a flaw in the plan, though:
"This player will appear to be one of the members of the Valley Forge."

Does this mean the KD isn't revealed on his death?
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I believe he is revealed, according to the latest posts by Folwren in the admin thread.

Oh, and clearly that cubbies stuff is a code to her fellow baddies, Rikae is certainly evil.

[Galadriel55]

TP, I think you have to highlight votes.

Why Pitch, though? He only posted, like, once.

It looks like this game is turning into a debate of whether to listen to evil genius* Phantom or to ignore his advice. I don't care what the outcome of that will be, but I want lynch wolf! XD

*Does not mean you're necessarily a wolf, but you're always evil.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

It looks like this game is turning into a debate of whether to listen to evil genius* Phantom or to ignore his advice.

In other news, studies have shown a high probability that the sun rises in the East!

I know, I know, this is your very first Day One with phantom, isn't it?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Anyway, I shall vote for Pitch, Eruhen, or Gal55.

*flips coin*

Heads, so... Crap, this coin isn't three sided. So umm....

You must be lynched-

++Pitch

(That was just for you, Sally. You may have to explain the joke to the uncultured masses. )

But will Sally explain why you went for Pitch?

Anyway, you forgot to do a small thing with your vote, so it may not count anyway.

[Nerwen]

So, I was going to summarize everyone's posts, and in fact i got some way into it– but honestly, practically the entire Day is phantom talking about his Cunning Plan and other people talking about phantom and his Cunning Plan.

Of note, though–

Bom Tombadillo makes a couple of posts of banter and joke accusation (#13 & #16). Possible "Hey, look, I'm just too silly to be a wolf?"

Boro sucks up– sorry, there's really no other way to put it– to phantom (#18, #38). Also makes what I think is the rather odd statement that "there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1".

Eruhen's (#28, #33) and Finduilas' (#39) reactions to the Plan seem to have a rather hasty, nervous tone– however I think they make valid points. Finduilas also ((#39, #41) emphasises her newbie status and unfamiliarity with the game, which can be a wolf-cub tactic– or just exactly what it looks like, a newbie unsure of the rules.

Oh, and Rikae is clearly under a mysterious curse.

EDIT:X'd with Folwren.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Boro sucks up– sorry, there's really no other way to put it– to phantom (#18, #38. Also makes what I think is the rather odd statement that "there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1".

I could have added eye rolls to show those posts were filled to the brim with sarcasm, but if phantom (or anyone else) interprets as sucking up, that's fairy nuff.

I just mean in comparison it's not like a completely random Day 1 lynch can lose the game for us, like the times the seer gets lynched on Day 1. Still don't want to lynch helpful gifted, but I'm going to be less cautious with my Day 1 vote than normal.

And wilwa's been more convincing than the phantom, so bye bye to that plan tp. (I guess this means I'm sucking up to wilwa now?)

[Galadriel55]

Nice summary!

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Also makes what I think is the rather odd statement that "there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1".

Out of context, that quote is quite suspicious. But when I read the paragraph, I got the point - usally D1 is a fiasco, often with a lynched Seer. This game, there is no Seer. The worst case is a lynched ordo.

But to think about that... There's also the WD. We don't want to lynch him.

Would that quote then be an attempt to say "hey villagers, it's ok if you lynch anybody - we don't care - as long as it's not me or my packmates"? Probably not.

Originally Posted by Boro

Moderately tempted to vote phantom, because he's all but taunting us to do it. But being Day 1, there's probably a better chance Glirdan gets lynched for absolutely no reason than the phantom being lynched for scheming.

NO LYNCH GLIRDY! Come on, he didn't even say a word! And he's in my city now (or was in my city some hours ago, I don't know), so NO LYNCH GLIRDY!!!

TP, on the other hand...



No, really. I'm not sure if I want to lynch phantom, but it will sure save me headaches later on.

Edit: xed with Boro