WW LXXXVII - The Valley Forge

[Galadriel55]

TP's plan discarded already? Wow. Boro's predictions for D2 are already happening in D1.

I don't think it's that much of a problem if we do it the honest WW way - pick the most "suspicious" person at random (), just instead of aiming for a wolf you aim for the KD.

But, like Nerwen said, even if the plan is allowed, it might backfire badly.

So how about we try to get a Forge member toDay, like we always do. If we get one, it's a good thing. If we don't - it happens. If we get the KD - you can almost call it an accident. If we get the watchman - well, let's just try not to get the watchman. In other words, no special plans, just regular WW Day 1.

[Galadriel55]

Also, KD, Sweetheart, and Watchdwarf know something we all don't. Maybe it won't be any good for them - and us - if we lynch the KD early on. Or maybe it won't matter. I don't know. But they have supersecret abilities, and we don't know what they are, and how it can affec the game.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

So how about we try to get a Forge member toDay, like we always do. If we get one, it's a good thing. If we don't - it happens. If we get the KD - you can almost call it an accident. If we get the watchman - well, let's just try not to get the watchman. In other words, no special plans, just regular WW Day 1.

And that's the crux of the matter. With no reveals, no matter what role we're aiming to lynch, the result is more likely to be something different anyway. I mean we are trying to lynch a forge every day technically, and how often does that happen? I think you summed it up best yesterday with, the main issue being who to lynch, not which role.

The thing I don't get tp is if you aren't the KD, as you say, how are you hoping to provide cover to the KD from the Forge? Isn't the KD in conversation with the other 3 Forge members, and thus the Forge knows 1 out of 4 is the KD? It'll just be a matter of debate on when do the Forge realize who amongst them is the KD and whether they want to risk it, since there is the risk they kill one of their own, instead of the KD.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Boro

The thing I don't get tp is if you aren't the KD, as you say, how are you hoping to provide cover to the KD from the Forge?

I never said we could give him cover from the Forge- what we can give him is cover from modfire (by a couple of us maintaining the same suspects thus not making it clear immediately which person is obviously the KD thus earning modfire).

Anyway, gotta run. I'm driving several hundred miles today. Hopefully I'll get a chance to vote before I leave in half an hour or so.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I never said we could give him cover from the Forge- what we can give him is cover from modfire (by a couple of us maintaining the same suspects thus not making it clear immediately which person is obviously the KD thus earning modfire).

Well, I assumed that's what you meant– but, look, you've basically said it yourself now, tp: you know the rules were intended to prevent exactly this kind of thing. And I signed up to play Werewolf, not "find-the-loophole".

...I see we have, as usual, managed to spend the Day so far talking about phantom and his schemes. Perhaps we could start, oh I don't know, looking for wolves? Just a wild notion that suddenly occurred to me.

[Mithalwen]

It is a wild scheme, butit might just work!!! To be fair TP has been doing most of the talking 25% of all posts... so it will be lots of him.. I suppose it will go crazy around the deadline again... I shoudl away for a bit .... but I won't be too long

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Perhaps we could start, oh I don't know, looking for wolves?

But there are no wolves- just dwarves.

Anyway.... I have to go now, and I doubt I'll be back today, i.e. this is a golden opportunity for Phantom-haters to lynch me. You can attack me for being annoying (true) and wasting the day (not entirely fair, but believable), or if you're particularly nasty you can try and convince people that I am in fact the KD and have been inviting people to kill me all along (which is entirely false, but if you're very clever and devious you may be able to pull it off).

Anyway, I shall vote for Pitch, Eruhen, or Gal55.

*flips coin*

Heads, so... Crap, this coin isn't three sided. So umm....

You must be lynched-

++Pitch

(That was just for you, Sally. You may have to explain the joke to the uncultured masses. )

[Mithalwen]

We don't hate you necessarily dear..... maybe just getting wise..

[satansaloser2005]

We have to lynch....Pitch?

That's my boy.

Today's going to be mad busy, so I'll only say that I don't like Phantom's plan (I'd like to offer my own opinion on the KD later on if I have the chance) and I think some of the things Galadriel's said could easily be forging, but I'd need to look closer before I made any decisions.

I'll be back later, likely to vote.

[Inziladun]

This could be interesting.

Originally Posted by McCaber

Well, should we each give a list of three people we randomly suspect?

In which case I'll go with Rikae, Glirdy, and Pitchwife.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Anyway, I shall vote for Pitch, Eruhen, or Gal55.

*flips coin*

Heads, so... Crap, this coin isn't three sided. So umm....

You must be lynched-

++Pitch

So tp happened to vote for someone suspected (for no reason) by Cabbie. What to make of that?

x/d with Pitch

[Bom Tombadillo]

I suspect you know exactly what to make of it, and don't want to state it too openly. Why? Who knows? But I shall be watching you as well as phantom.

EDIT: X'd with Boro.