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Urwen · 04-25-2019, 10:04 AM

What would you say if there existed an Elf with Orcish heritage?

Urwen · 04-25-2019, 04:46 PM

This one gets it

This one too

Galadriel55 · 04-25-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

This one too

Yeah, this one gets it - except for the part that even weird teenagers aren't justified in committing felony.

I heard a parent say about their autistic child that the illness might be an explanation for the child's behaviour, but it is not an excuse. I think that's a sentence that all people should live by and should be judged by, regardless of what may serve as explanation for what goes on in their lives. We need to know the explanation - the "why" is the essence of every person, and the reason we feel any emotion about them. However, there is a line for everyone, and once that line is crossed, it's crossed. It's possible to relate to Maeglin, pity him, empathize with him, wish better luck or chances for him, seek the sources of his personality, etc. - and yet still find him guilty and deserving of the consequences that he got. An explanation is not always an excuse.

Urwen · 04-26-2019, 12:52 AM

If you think I don't know that, then look at my signature. If I found M[a]eglin completely blameless, I wouldn't have this signature.

William Cloud Hicklin · 04-26-2019, 06:34 AM

As was the case with so very many of my clients. And where I was obliged to make that argument, even as I knew what the CA's standard riposte was going to be: "His crappy upbringing didn't pick up a gun and kill someone; he did."

Urwen · 04-26-2019, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

As was the case with so very many of my clients. And where I was obliged to make that argument, even as I knew what the CA's standard riposte was going to be: "His crappy upbringing didn't pick up a gun and kill someone; he did."

Except that he didn't 'pick up' anything. Rather, he was the one picked up and tossed over the edge. Oh, and let's not forget that his arm was broken.

Huinesoron · 04-26-2019, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Except that he didn't 'pick up' anything. Rather, he was the one picked up and tossed over the edge. Oh, and let's not forget that his arm was broken.

Well... a dagger, to stab a small child when he didn't have time left to throw said small child over a cliff in front of his mother. But let's not split hairs (though I imagine Idril had some split hairs after being dragged around by them...).

hS

04-25-2019, 10:04 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	What would you say if there existed an Elf with Orcish heritage? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-25-2019 at 10:33 AM.

04-25-2019, 04:46 PM	#2
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	This one gets it This one too __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-25-2019 at 04:50 PM.

04-26-2019, 12:52 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	If you think I don't know that, then look at my signature. If I found M[a]eglin completely blameless, I wouldn't have this signature. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-26-2019, 06:34 AM	#5
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	As was the case with so very many of my clients. And where I was obliged to make that argument, even as I knew what the CA's standard riposte was going to be: "His crappy upbringing didn't pick up a gun and kill someone; he did." __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.