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Feanor of the Peredhil
10-20-2005, 06:54 AM
alatar's a mod now. Check out the forum leaders page. The answer can't be him.

mormegil
10-20-2005, 07:28 AM
Not correct. Are more hints needed for my jumbled clue?

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-20-2005, 07:29 AM
*hopeful nod*

mormegil
10-20-2005, 07:49 AM
Okay, Fea you are hopless and I despair for you. ;)

Kath
10-20-2005, 07:55 AM
I've been reduced to guesses now - Keeper of Dol Guldur?

mormegil
10-20-2005, 08:06 AM
Nope and that was a guess.

Crack open your friendly thesaurus and it may help.

Firefoot
10-20-2005, 08:14 AM
Dwarvish - could refer to height, nick, Dwarvish RPG character, or someone who fit the role of Dwarf in a WW game. Looking at the last one, Eonwe, TGWBS, and Kuru could all fit that. Eonwe is the only one who hasn't been guessed, so him?

Despondent - Um... I'm having trouble thinking of anyone who might fit that. Mithalwen has gone through bouts of despondency, I guess, but she doesn't really fit the "Dwarvish" part. And she has more than 500 posts.

Directer - If it's not a mod or admin, I guess it could be anyone who has run a WW game. Not many of them have fewer than 500 posts, though.

Is any of this on the right track?

mormegil
10-20-2005, 08:17 AM
The dwarvish part has very little to do with the actual person, though I don't dabble at all in the RPG so I wouldn't know if he has a dwarf character but I think he does play in the RPG.

No he's played in at least one WW game but never modded one.

Firefoot
10-20-2005, 08:18 AM
CaptainofDespair!?

Anguirel
10-20-2005, 08:27 AM
Aye, that must be it. The Dwarf from Snow White (I think) on his avatar!

mormegil
10-20-2005, 08:30 AM
CaptainofDespair!?

Correct you are I thought the hint that I gave to Fea would have been sufficient though.

Firefoot
10-20-2005, 09:03 AM
I didn't even realize you were giving her a hint at all... :rolleyes:

This record-setter is a real puzzle.

Amanaduial the archer
10-20-2005, 02:22 PM
Bethberry, for her high reputation and her personal title 'Cryptic Aura'?

Firefoot
10-20-2005, 02:28 PM
Nope.

mormegil
10-20-2005, 02:47 PM
Would it be Heren-Istarian for his record of the highest rep giver?

Boromir88
10-20-2005, 03:16 PM
B88's not male? Wha!?! :eek: ~Fea
Unless I unknowingly had a sex-change, I'm a male.

Mormegil, what lies thou be spreading! :p

Umm my guess is Lalwende, just a random stab.

Gil-Galad
10-20-2005, 04:02 PM
hmmmm... LMP?

edit: maybe piosenniel now?

Firefoot
10-20-2005, 04:38 PM
None of the above.

It doesn't have anything to do with rep.

Bergil
10-20-2005, 05:14 PM
record-setter referrs to music (I was a busker in Tol-In-Gaurhoyh Jr and contribute often to the "Theme songs" thread. In that game (and perhaps this one) I confused (puzzled) people. Excuse me if I'm being osentatious.

Firefoot
10-20-2005, 05:57 PM
Sorry, Bergil, but nope.

Glirdan
10-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Could it possibly be Fea?

The Saucepan Man
10-21-2005, 03:17 AM
Firefoot, is it you?

You are a rcord-setter in having, or at least had, the most posts per day. And you're a real puzzle because you frequent the Quiz and Quotes Rooms.

Could this be a cheeky one?

Firefoot
10-21-2005, 05:26 AM
Nah, I'm not that cheeky. :D Some of your reasoning is correct, though.

Not Fea either.

Lhunardawen
10-21-2005, 05:58 AM
I'm guessing The Saucepan Man.

Far-fetched, yes?

Firefoot
10-21-2005, 06:09 AM
Far-fetched or not, it's not SpM.

Bêthberry
10-21-2005, 06:45 AM
This record-setter is a real puzzle.

Might it be The Spectre of Decay, aka The Squatter of Amon Rûdh? He certainly is the only Downer whose record is set in the smilies and he does love the puzzles of Quizzes and Quotes, to say nothing of cryptic clues.

mormegil
10-21-2005, 06:55 AM
If some of SpM's reasoning was correct I will guess me. I'm nearly at the same amount of posts per day as you are and I'm in Palantir all the time....I'm desperate okay :rolleyes:

Firefoot
10-21-2005, 07:26 AM
Neither.

The record s/he sets is self-proclaimed.

the guy who be short
10-21-2005, 11:35 AM
Folwren? Holds the record for most abstract gender. *Is still confused*

the phantom
10-21-2005, 12:17 PM
Sleepy Ranger comes to mind.

He thought it was a big deal to be the last post on three pages in a row here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=335159&postcount=120). Soon after he upped that to four (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=351627&postcount=160).

Then he gave ten options, which he figured was a record here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=335167&postcount=124).

And didn't I hear him proclaiming some sort of 9 second record one time?

Gil-Galad
10-21-2005, 04:06 PM
Rune and his sauages

Firefoot
10-21-2005, 04:18 PM
None of those.

The two parts of the question are completely separate, referring to two totally unrelated things about this Downer.

Morsul the Dark
10-22-2005, 11:42 AM
is it me i once had the highest post-per-day count (record setter) and puzzle because i disappear tfor long periods of time for no reason or because im always puzzling over clues in cryptice clues?

Morsul the dark?

Firefoot
10-22-2005, 11:56 AM
Nope.

Morsul the Dark
10-22-2005, 12:00 PM
Nonnacedak

He Says "To set the record staight Im a Guy" hes a record setter also he was a puzzle no one whether or not he was a guy???

Firefoot
10-22-2005, 12:02 PM
It's not nearly that difficult.

mormegil
10-22-2005, 12:23 PM
It's not nearly that difficult.

Yes apparently it's so easy... :rolleyes:

How about a small hint?

Bêthberry
10-22-2005, 12:24 PM
This record-setter is a real puzzle.


You couldn't be referring to Gil-Galad, could you, for his self-proclaimed prowess with puns and his fervent belief in female fancies, both of which are somewhat quizzical asseverations. :D

Firefoot
10-22-2005, 12:41 PM
Sorry, not Gil.

Morm, I never said it was easy, I just said it wasn't so hard as to use such a small nit-picky quote.

The record has to do with height; the puzzle has to do with where s/he posts most often.

wilwarin538
10-22-2005, 01:00 PM
hookbill Perhaps. For his record in the Crazy Captions thread.

the guy who be short
10-22-2005, 01:23 PM
Lindolirian! Tallest hobbit... Quizzes..

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-22-2005, 01:28 PM
mormegil, perchance?

Firefoot
10-22-2005, 01:43 PM
Lindo it is. Nice job, TGWBS!

the guy who be short
10-23-2005, 06:05 AM
My main purpose on the Downs is to make people do what Firefoot just did.

Firefoot
10-23-2005, 06:07 AM
Fea in reference to werewolf, maybe.

Gil-Galad
10-23-2005, 07:35 AM
Glirdan maybe? i remember a Quiz Room fiasco that happened...

Estelyn Telcontar
10-23-2005, 08:29 AM
Since Firefoot just answered a quiz question, could you be asking for The Saucepan Man, the undisputed King of the Realms of Q&Q?

the guy who be short
10-23-2005, 10:29 AM
Esty is closest. Look what Firefoot just did in the post above mine.

Estelyn Telcontar
10-23-2005, 10:33 AM
She edited her post? Could you be thinking of HerenIstarion?

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-23-2005, 10:34 AM
Firefoot complimented you... and Bethberry always make people feel happy...

the guy who be short
10-23-2005, 10:52 AM
Again, Esty is along the right lines. This is a bit of a difficult one. In what instances might one edit a post?

Firefoot
10-23-2005, 11:15 AM
piosenniel, maybe, because she's always removing sigs from people's RPG posts?

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-23-2005, 11:15 AM
Does Chat Skwerl count as a 'Downer? ;)

the guy who be short
10-23-2005, 11:59 AM
The Downer in question doesn't really make people edit posts. They just make them feel like they may want to.

Mithalwen
10-23-2005, 12:31 PM
Rimbaud?

mormegil
10-23-2005, 12:33 PM
Is it Squatter?

the guy who be short
10-23-2005, 12:35 PM
2(Nope)

Mithalwen
10-23-2005, 12:37 PM
the great Wight himself?

the guy who be short
10-23-2005, 01:16 PM
Nope... shall I give more clues?

Kath
10-23-2005, 03:29 PM
Is it Bergil?

the guy who be short
10-24-2005, 03:32 AM
*Hands Kath the Cookie of Correctness*

Kath
10-24-2005, 01:30 PM
Why thank you!

Famous Balrog lover.

If this appears a little odd just remember it makes sense to me!

mormegil
10-24-2005, 01:54 PM
Gothmog?

Kath
10-24-2005, 01:59 PM
Nope.

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-24-2005, 02:28 PM
mark?

wilwarin538
10-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Glirdan perhaps, with his Balrog Appreciation Month thread.

Kath
10-24-2005, 03:44 PM
Noo, think more specifically.

Glirdan
10-24-2005, 03:54 PM
Fordim possibly? For starting the Balrog wing debate?

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-24-2005, 04:10 PM
Roggie of Morgoth aka Heren?

Kath
10-24-2005, 04:13 PM
Still no and stop thinking so seriously!

WaynetheGoblin
10-24-2005, 07:37 PM
Maybe hookbill.

mormegil
10-24-2005, 08:09 PM
Lord Melkor

Feanor of the Peredhil
10-24-2005, 09:59 PM
If not serious, how about sarcastic? Legolas?

Gil-Galad
10-24-2005, 10:09 PM
Me perhaps?

Morsul the Dark
10-25-2005, 08:30 AM
as i recall what would you make i combined balrogs with just about everything....so me perhaps?

Kath
10-25-2005, 12:17 PM
Gil was correct, it was him I was thinking of, him and Johnny the Stinky Balrog! :p

Gil-Galad
10-25-2005, 06:05 PM
Having Trouble with Pictures? i have three


might be hard...

mormegil
10-25-2005, 06:30 PM
Lathriel

Gil-Galad
10-25-2005, 07:05 PM
nope

Eonwe
10-25-2005, 07:41 PM
ummm...me? i "had trouble viewing the pictures" in crazy captions. i didn't get it until just now :o . i think someone posted that they couldn't see the pictures and i seconded that...

Gil-Galad
10-25-2005, 07:43 PM
nope


its more 'Deciding' with pictures

Glirdan
10-25-2005, 08:02 PM
I'm going to guess at myself or Wilwa. Both of us change our avvie's quite a bit.

Gil-Galad
10-25-2005, 08:06 PM
neither

THE Ka
10-25-2005, 08:13 PM
nope


its more 'Deciding' with pictures


That's not fair enough Mr.Gil...

But, oh! Who cares, that could be a number of only 3/4ths of the photo page, but to take a chance I will.

Something along the lines of Eomer?

~ Aesthete

Gil-Galad
10-25-2005, 09:32 PM
nope

sorry Ka...

Lhunardawen
10-26-2005, 02:48 AM
Oddwen? Is that avvies you're talking about?

Valesse
10-26-2005, 03:28 PM
Is it, perhaps, Tigerlily_Gamgee with her photopages? I'm not sure how many editions she has made, but considering the link above mentions that this is a "new" one, there has had to been at least one other. (I'm hoping for two, though ; ))

Gil-Galad
10-26-2005, 05:18 PM
no...

Boromir88
10-26-2005, 07:51 PM
I'm going to say Mithalwen, though I think it's her avvie she has trouble with.

Gil-Galad
10-26-2005, 09:29 PM
no...

mormegil
10-26-2005, 09:42 PM
Any hints?

Gil-Galad
10-26-2005, 09:48 PM
i'm not in any state to think...


starts with a V

mormegil
10-26-2005, 09:56 PM
Valesse?

though I'm not sure why.

Gil-Galad
10-26-2005, 09:58 PM
nope

Glirdan
10-27-2005, 05:37 AM
What about Vanima?

Gil-Galad
10-27-2005, 07:33 AM
you mean VanimaEdhel? then yes

Amanaduial the archer
10-27-2005, 10:03 AM
Sorry, I don't understand - how does that clue match up with Vanima?

Gil-Galad
10-27-2005, 07:15 PM
she posted three pictures of herself on the photo-page and asked us to decide for her

Formendacil
10-27-2005, 10:52 PM
she posted three pictures of herself on the photo-page and asked us to decide for her

Would it be THE Ka, by any chance?

Glirdan
10-28-2005, 09:55 PM
I already got it right Form. And I can't think of anything. I'll get back to this as soon as I can.

Formendacil
10-28-2005, 11:59 PM
I already got it right Form. And I can't think of anything. I'll get back to this as soon as I can.

Indeed. So I had noticed- or rather, had pointed out for me- rather too late after the fact. Precisely how I missed the posts after Gil's clue, I have no idea...

And you can't think of anything, young man? There are hundreds of 'Downers to choose from...

Glirdan
10-29-2005, 07:20 AM
Oh yes, I know. I just can't think of a little riddle. It is rather difficult when all the good ones have been taken you know...

Glirdan
10-29-2005, 11:23 AM
Okay, this I guess this isn't really a riddle, but it's the best I could come up with. :rolleyes:

I'm a regular Shire RPG'er.

Go for it. ;)

mormegil
10-29-2005, 11:25 AM
Firefoot?

Firefoot
10-29-2005, 11:44 AM
Hm, this could take a while...

Fea?

Glirdan
10-29-2005, 11:47 AM
Neither are right. Good guesses though.

mormegil
10-30-2005, 04:28 PM
I'll go for the most obvious

piosenniel

Glirdan
10-30-2005, 05:11 PM
It is most obvious, but I'm not that obvious you know. So, incorrect my dear morm. Try again. ;) :p

I'm going to alter my hint slightly:

I particapate in at least two Shire RPG's.

That might help you a little more, but still not give away to much. Yet I think it's still slightly innacurate. :rolleyes:

mormegil
10-30-2005, 11:13 PM
Folwren?

Maybe a hint as to the gender could help too.

Amanaduial the archer
10-31-2005, 04:56 PM
Ah, come on, that's a wee bit open, could apply to a fair few... I'm afraid this may sound egotistic, but me?

Otherwise, Fordim? He is technically participating in two, as he spends so much time in the Green Dragon, and you did hint at a slight inaccuracy in the statement. Or maybe Envinyatar? Sorry to make three guesses at once...

Glirdan
10-31-2005, 09:14 PM
Well, you guessed right Amanduial. It was indeed Envinyatar. I yield the thread to you.

mormegil
11-22-2005, 01:25 PM
*bump*

Amanduial?

mormegil
11-26-2005, 12:26 PM
Well I'll just take it over then.

If we were in a different world I would be attacking Hookbill the Goomba

Gil-Galad
11-26-2005, 12:44 PM
Maybe Me?....or Sleepy?

mormegil
11-26-2005, 12:52 PM
Nope sorry it's neither

Firefoot
11-26-2005, 12:56 PM
TORE?

mormegil
11-26-2005, 01:21 PM
No sorry it's not TORE, however I will add a hint the different world is a 2D world.

Bergil
11-26-2005, 07:13 PM
it's an anagram of Mario.

mormegil
11-26-2005, 08:03 PM
Correct and your thread.

Bergil
11-27-2005, 07:07 PM
and the question is

you may think I'm a star, but I'm only a well-known goof

The Saucepan Man
11-27-2005, 07:39 PM
Gil-Galad?

Gil-Galad
11-27-2005, 08:52 PM
thanks Saucey...


hmm...Boromir88?

Bergil
11-28-2005, 08:00 PM
Yes, the name means "starlight". goof is a clear clue.

The Saucepan Man
12-02-2005, 08:24 AM
I offer a platform for those of religious persuasion, and therein produce an article.

mormegil
12-07-2005, 01:51 PM
Fordim?

Mithalwen
12-07-2005, 03:33 PM
Hmm I think it is more cryptic and am thinking about pulpits and altars ......

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-07-2005, 04:09 PM
alatar?

Gil-Galad
12-07-2005, 06:41 PM
Lmp?

The Saucepan Man
12-07-2005, 06:59 PM
Hmm I think it is more cryptic and am thinking about pulpits and altars ......you be thinking correct, Mistress Mithalwen.

And Mistress Bracegirdle has it!

platform for those of religious persuasion = altar
an article = a

Place the article within the platform and you get alatar.

Pray continue, Mistress Bracegirdle. :)

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-08-2005, 06:02 AM
Thanks Mithalwen. Your musings rung a bell.

Alright then....

Another name for a hobbit with horse sense.

Glirdan
12-08-2005, 06:35 AM
I'm going to take a stab at burrahobbit. Yet I think it's much more cryptic than that.

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-08-2005, 11:05 AM
Nice guess Glirdan, but not who I had in mind.

mormegil
12-08-2005, 11:07 AM
Merry Brandybuck

He's a hobbit that had ridden a horse (if I remember correctly) plus the whole knight of Rohan bit.

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-08-2005, 11:28 AM
No, it is not Mister Brandybuck, though you are right to consider the small equestrian element. Take note that it is another name for certain hobbit.

Mithalwen
12-08-2005, 12:10 PM
Mister Underhill

Frodo's nom de voyage and his PT is DRead Horseman.

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-08-2005, 02:59 PM
We have a winner! Very good Mithalwen. Mister Underhill was also Frodo's alias while at the Prancing Pony, but I like your connection much, much better!

Your turn on the pitcher's mound!

Mithalwen
12-09-2005, 07:59 AM
Why thank you .... try this:

Does he give a tinker's cuss?

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-09-2005, 11:14 AM
Argh, all I can think of is The Saucepan Man. Though I'm not too fond of the image of him cacophonously cussing that springs to mind! ;)

Mithalwen
12-11-2005, 11:43 AM
Argh, all I can think of is The Saucepan Man. Though I'm not too fond of the image of him cacophonously cussing that springs to mind! ;)


It is indeed the Saucepan Man... and the answer to the question may well be no. :D Sorry for the delay in replying.. I was otherwise engaged yesterday playing the Fairy Godmother :D

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-11-2005, 07:26 PM
Fairy Godmother? Not Middle-earth Mafia I trust! :p

Alright then, back to business.

This Downer might be mistaken for a midnight snack!

Alcarillo
12-11-2005, 07:55 PM
Morsul, maybe? I seem to recall him being associated with chocolate chip cookies.

Hilde Bracegirdle
12-12-2005, 05:36 AM
Absolutely correct, Alcarillo. Morsul in the Dark it is. Your up!

Amanaduial the archer
12-31-2005, 12:44 PM
*bump*

Morsul?

Gil-Galad
12-31-2005, 01:02 PM
Its Alcarillo's turn actually...

Amanaduial the archer
12-31-2005, 01:06 PM
Pedant ;) My mistake.

Amanaduial the archer
01-02-2006, 09:41 AM
Well, bringing this thread into the new year then...

Chemistry + The Downs = ?

;)

Mithalwen
01-02-2006, 11:37 AM
Hookbill the Goomba?

The Saucepan Man
01-02-2006, 11:47 AM
Abercrombie of Rohan for her Downer Periodic Table?

Amanaduial the archer
01-02-2006, 01:15 PM
Passing the thread to the man with the pan.

The Saucepan Man
01-02-2006, 06:11 PM
Ta very much. :)

The signature of a royal artist?

Glirdan
01-02-2006, 09:25 PM
Ummm... Fea perhaps?

Feanor of the Peredhil
01-19-2006, 12:07 AM
Sauce, dear, my ears were ringing and now I greatly desire to know if Glirdan is correct. Would you be so unkind as to keep me in suspense?

The Saucepan Man
01-19-2006, 03:58 AM
Well let me put your ears at rest, Fea, and declare Glirdan's answer incorrect ...

Eomer of the Rohirrim
01-19-2006, 09:22 AM
Rimbaud. Parts of the clue ring a bell but I can't fit them together to make a good reason for it. I know you love giving reasons, Saucey. ;)

Thinlómien
01-19-2006, 09:54 AM
Spawn?

The Saucepan Man
01-19-2006, 11:35 AM
Nope, neither of those.

A clue?

Hmm.

The question relates to a reference to a royal artist in a member's signature ... :p :D

Kath
01-19-2006, 04:07 PM
THE Ka?

Hilde Bracegirdle
01-21-2006, 10:28 AM
How about the guy who would be short?

signature:
I was in a hurry and was like... What quirk should Eru have? Oh, he's a llama. ~ Fea Queen Of Nuts

the guy who be short
01-22-2006, 10:56 AM
I would be short? :confused:

Hilde Bracegirdle
01-22-2006, 06:16 PM
Horrors! Please accept my apologies. *Very very bad Hilde!* :eek:

Correction: the guy who be short?

Thinlómien
01-27-2006, 11:13 AM
Nilpaurion Felagund?

Gil-Galad
01-27-2006, 02:01 PM
Feanor of the Peredhil?

Amanaduial the archer
01-27-2006, 02:20 PM
Not Fea, she's already been guessed. Any more clues/indication if those last guesses are right, Saucey?

Boromir88
01-27-2006, 03:01 PM
Ummm is it Encaitare?

If I remember she created that artistic thread a while ago. Though I'm not good at deciphering meanings and stuff so I have no idea about the "royal" hint.

Gil-Galad
01-27-2006, 04:23 PM
Meneltarmicil if she hasn't been guessed already...

The Saucepan Man
01-29-2006, 07:28 PM
None of the above. :p

This person's sig features the first name of a person who recently painted a portrait of a member of royalty.

A knowledge of recent British current affairs might help ... :rolleyes:

Thinlómien
01-30-2006, 10:15 AM
Doesn't help me... So sigs with names... Aman?

The Saucepan Man
02-01-2006, 02:21 PM
Nope.

Final clue (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4541388.stm)

Valier
02-01-2006, 03:49 PM
Is it Roa-Aofie? :confused:

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-01-2006, 04:02 PM
obloquy!

Glirdan
02-01-2006, 06:49 PM
Bêthberry?

The Saucepan Man
02-01-2006, 07:23 PM
obloquy!Bingo! Hilde, you take the prize - which is to ask the next question. :)

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-02-2006, 05:53 AM
Message received, captain. Will transmit next clue as soon as I can find one! ;)

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-03-2006, 11:51 AM
Clue: Sir Gawain defended the king’s honor against the Green Knight, but when it comes to this Downer, he rather not.

Thinlómien
02-14-2006, 11:21 AM
It has been nearly two weeks from posting the question and no one has had ideas. What about a clue? Or shall I just start guessing randomly?

Amanaduial the archer
02-14-2006, 12:28 PM
Any chance of a clue, Pan-man?

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-14-2006, 03:10 PM
Glad to see that someone is still checking in here. :)

Next clue: This queenly downer is mortally afraid of burnt stake.

Nilpaurion Felagund
02-15-2006, 02:48 AM
Is it, by any chance, Mme. Guinevere?

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-15-2006, 06:57 AM
Absolutely correct, Nilp! You're at the helm.

Nilpaurion Felagund
02-15-2006, 07:15 AM
Khamûl's occupation.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-15-2006, 08:25 AM
I expect you're referring to Keeper of Dol Guldur.

Nilpaurion Felagund
02-15-2006, 08:27 AM
Correct. :cool:

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-15-2006, 09:04 AM
Different alternative makes suspicious tea.

JennyHallu
02-15-2006, 09:10 AM
Hookbill the Goomba? For his wish in the thread Be Careful What you Wish For...

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-15-2006, 09:20 AM
That would be referring to a Downer's title by reference to a single post, which is too obscure even for me.

the guy who be short
02-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Is this to do with Douglas Adams' concern that Americans are makers of suspiciously untealike tea? I fear not, but it sprung to mind, and Douglas Adams is oft quoted in the sig of Thinlomien. I think.

Edit: Gothmog, not Thinlomien!

Nilpaurion Felagund
02-15-2006, 06:31 PM
Is this, by any chance, cryptic?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-17-2006, 04:05 AM
I thought that was a range of vending machines from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, tgwbs. Anyway, that's not the answer.

Yes, Nilpaurion, it's a cryptic one. Also I wouldn't be so obvious as to choose a member whose name's likely to appear on any first pages.

Good luck.

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-17-2006, 05:30 AM
Perhaps it is Kath? (An alternate form of Kathryn, as is Katy)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-17-2006, 08:14 AM
The clue is a much more direct reference to the member's title. Besides, how do we account for anything apart from the 'tea' given that solution?

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-17-2006, 11:07 AM
Very true. Too much of a leap, albeit a fun one.

...Title, eh?

Gil-Galad
02-17-2006, 05:41 PM
When you say Tea i imediately think Hookbill

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-20-2006, 04:01 AM
Such associations will surely lead you into error. You must unlearn what you have learned. :smokin:

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-20-2006, 06:00 AM
Could it be Tigerlilly Gamgee?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-20-2006, 07:21 AM
It could be, but isn't. This poster isn't a regular.

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-20-2006, 11:42 AM
Hmm...

What about maikafanawen with "Tears of Simbelmynë"?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-20-2006, 12:45 PM
This could easily become a complete list of members.

I'm afraid that's still not the answer.

Bêthberry
02-20-2006, 03:31 PM
You know, I wouldn't put it past Squatter to refer to himself. And he is not on the first page. Let's see... suspicious tea. Well, a spectre of decay would definitely produce a suspicious oozy 'tea-like' fluid. But that is a stretch--or perhaps I should say, stinker.

On the other hand, a suspicious tea could well be a from of prohibited substance, and we all know who carries around all those pots with him. But The Saucepan Man is indeed on the first page.

Well, that's all the time I have to devote to silliness. :D :smokin:

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-21-2006, 07:22 AM
Much as I dislike deterring the participation of our more astute members, neither of those is right. Top marks for deviousness, though.

No, I'm afraid that referring to myself might be a little too obscure these days, at least until I can work out some way of posting more regularly. As for Saucepan, he's been mentioned in this thread so many times that I expect his ears are heating his office. I thought perhaps I ought to give him a rest. Still, you might remember this member. I thought it was a great nick when I first saw it.

JennyHallu
02-21-2006, 12:54 PM
I think it is Lord of Angmar, whose title, "Tyrannis Incorporalis" is an alternative way to refer to his screen name.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-22-2006, 05:00 AM
I've never drunk Lord of Angmar's tea, but I'm fairly sure that it wouldn't be as suspicious as any brewed by the member I have in mind.

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-22-2006, 06:03 AM
Gwaihir the Windlord as "Essence of Darkness" I imagine would brew rather stiff tea.

But most suspicious would be that of HCIsland the "Zombie Cannibal". :eek:

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-22-2006, 08:39 AM
Neither of those, I fear.

I think a repetition of the clue and a few pointers are in order.

Different alternative makes suspicious tea.

The meaning's probably clearer if I rephrase it: Different set of circumstances makes suspicious tea

In order to get this, you don't need to know anything about the member in question, not even their personal title. My clue only refers to the user name itself, albeit very allusively. I've also rather cruelly chosen a member who's been out of circulation for a long while.

JennyHallu
02-22-2006, 10:32 AM
Perhaps one of the Greenleafs?

There are Lyra, Mariska, and a third. They would make an odd tea if they were really leaves...

The Saucepan Man
02-22-2006, 11:20 AM
I do believe that Jenny has it.

Lyra, in the His Dark Materials series, lives in a parallel universe - an alternative set of cirumstances - and Greenleaf Tea might be regarded as suspicious.

Well done Jenny. :) That one had been puzzling me for some time.

Bêthberry
02-22-2006, 11:23 AM
I am quite happy to hear that Squatter was able to resist the urge to employ a T Rex cryptic. But that would have been some sort of right funny allusion, if not divine right.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-22-2006, 11:49 AM
Why should I stoop so low as self-promotion, Bêthberry, when my fame was for some time trumpeted from your signature for all to see? I could, I suppose have made myself the answer and referred to that quoted conversation, but I think I've already appeared in this thread.

You know, for some time I've been wondering who'd get this one. Obviously at the back of my mind I'd been thinking that perhaps Saucepan would come in and casually drop in the right answer. I'd even gone so far as to ask myself whether this would usher in a new age of cryptic domination on this thread. Now, at long last, I have my answer.

That answer is, of course, 'no'.

This has nothing to do either with the Greenleaf clan or with Philip Pullman's Oxonian guttersnipe. That was a nice bit of forum archaeology, though, JennyHallu.

JennyHallu
02-22-2006, 11:52 AM
I didn't think that was correct. And Archaeology it was not. Archaeology is a science--i was merely sifting through sand.

And I don't like Phillip Pullman's series...at all...so I'm glad it isn't that.

The Saucepan Man
02-22-2006, 11:53 AM
Bah! Back to the drawing board ... :rolleyes:

JennyHallu
02-22-2006, 11:58 AM
I'm so awful at cryptic clues...never managed to finish a single crossword...

But they're tantalizing. You know the whole time that the answer is...well...stalking you. There's no other way to put it. I keep hoping I will mentally turn around and find the answer wasn't quick enough to hide. Oh well...back to pretending I don't know it's there.

Bêthberry
02-22-2006, 12:22 PM
Why should I stoop so low as self-promotion, Bêthberry, when my fame is trumpeted from your signature for all to see?

Oh dear me! It is? Squatter, I 've never known you to misuse a verb tense. Estelyn can verify the time frame here, as my new sig went up some time before your reply. ;)

Eomer of the Rohirrim
02-23-2006, 04:54 AM
TPotSS

Simply because when you read it, it sounds like teapotsssssssss with that ssssssss like a suspicioussss ssssnake. Or Gollum, if you will, my preciousssss.

Don't know how it could fit in with that first part of the clue, though.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-23-2006, 06:42 AM
Good guess, Eomer, but I'm afraid it's the wrong answer: I don't remember seeing that name before. You are on the right track, though.

Bêthberry: I have better things to do with my time than to keep track of every deranged fangirl that mentions me in her signature. Nevertheless I must appease the dark gods of pedantry whom I serve. I have edited my last post for temporal accuracy, but now you owe me a gerundive, you silly mod.

Bêthberry
02-23-2006, 11:25 AM
Bêthberry: I have better things to do with my time than to keep track of every deranged fangirl that mentions me in her signature. Nevertheless I must appease the dark gods of pedantry whom I serve. I have edited my last post for temporal accuracy, but now you owe me a gerundive, you silly mod.

Will an ablative absolute do?

I'm sure you have made Mark 12_30 aka Helen's day. We really have needed something to spark a bit of energy in Books these days.

And, lest I be called on being off-off-topic, let me say that I think any one of these long out of circulation nicks could be called "a great nick."

Vilya Elathelas of Rivendell

Lord Syslox of Emyn Beverli

The Mirrorball Man

I won't say what the tea of the first might be but the other two are highly suspicious. :D

Mithalwen
02-23-2006, 11:54 AM
I'm so awful at cryptic clues...never managed to finish a single crossword...

But they're tantalizing. You know the whole time that the answer is...well...stalking you. There's no other way to put it. I keep hoping I will mentally turn around and find the answer wasn't quick enough to hide. Oh well...back to pretending I don't know it's there.


Jenny, while a slightly warped mind is an asset, it is possible to learn how to "read" cryptic clues and you will find various websites to help you get started. It is also helpful for learners to look back at the previous day's puzzle with the answers. The clues here are particularly hard because there is no help from the grid.

JennyHallu
02-23-2006, 12:00 PM
Oh I know, I know...and you have no idea how many times I have done just that. Generally, I sat down with the answers and think, gee, that was obvious...and then still can't figure it out.

Oh well, off to find some java-script crossword so that I can practice.

*shakes fist at Squatter* Ye fiend, ye!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-23-2006, 12:45 PM
And, lest I be called on being off-off-topicHeaven forfend.

Long years past it was the custom in these parts to toast live butterflies over an open refrigerator on St. Brigit's Day. In these more lemon-scented times, however, the practice has given way to an annual race between two teams of gooseberry rollers from the great universities of Harrogate and Christmas Island.

As the legendary 'Cicero of Skegness', Obadiah Ottershaw, once put it "I am, of course, pulling your leg. I was wondering how long anyone would read a quotation for before they realised that it was completely invented by me." I am disinclined to argue with his undeniably prescient words.

Also, apparently, sprach Zarathustra. But that is a different story entirely, and a dark and terrible tale it is too.

There follows the answer to Bethberry's guesses, disguised as a gratuitously parenthetical quotation. Let's pretend it's from last week's Sunday Times.

Those are indeed great names (although Lord Syslox could have obtained a far punchier name by omitting a location), but how many times have we seen greatness denied? This, I fear, is to be one of those times, since none of those undeniably departed members is the long-defunct forum correspondant of whom I speak.

JennyHallu
02-24-2006, 11:59 AM
I thought maybe "makes suspicious tea" referred to an anagram. But no one anagrams directly to that. So...must figure out "Different alternative"

Am I on the right track at all?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-27-2006, 03:25 AM
You are now that you've abandoned the anagram approach. Once you know the name I'm looking for, the 'suspicious tea' will make perfect sense, I assure you.

JennyHallu
02-27-2006, 06:56 AM
So confused.

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-27-2006, 07:01 AM
camomile makes a fairly suspicious tea. ;)

JennyHallu
02-27-2006, 07:23 AM
If that's the answer I will be forced to pound my head on my desk in the spirit of the great "Oh, duh!"

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-27-2006, 10:38 AM
Camomile tea isn't particularly suspicious, although it is the beverage most likely to be mentioned in novels that begin with a chapter of described internal monologue. Incidentally, my rule of thumb is that where camomile tea is mentioned in the first paragraph, the second will probably contain the phrase 'she remembered' and the third won't be worth reading.

Anyway, I digress. I didn't realise that there were so many tea-related names here. That part of the clue (which isn't exclusively to do with tea) is probably the part to focus on, but it's only one part of the answer.

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-27-2006, 11:23 AM
Fíriel of Ao Tea Roa, is a name that sets me in mind of a noble lady steeped in Red Rose tea - which perhaps is a little removed from those stories in which characters sip camomille tea as they remember. For instance, was it Lancelot or Galahad who finds the boiled girl?

Perhaps if I were fluent in obscure fictitious languages this name might mean something more?

EDIT: Just to tidy things up, it was Lancelot who found the boiled girl named Elaine in T.H. White's Once and Future King.

Lalaith
02-27-2006, 11:32 AM
Curse you, Squatter. I've been ploughing through the forgotten dusty vaults of the members list for a clue...I hope this tealady/gent of yours has more than one post to his/her name, that's all....

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-28-2006, 04:20 AM
Hilde: I'm afraid not. I think you're getting too hung up on the tea connection and forgetting the rest of the clue. It all has to fit.

Lalaith: I can assure you that this member has more than one post. They reached the dizzy heights of wightdom before disappearing.

piosenniel
02-28-2006, 04:46 AM
And now for a completely wild guess:

http://www.bialetti.co.za/images/icon-coffee-cup-1.gif

Ultimatejoe

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-28-2006, 05:38 AM
I don't think that 'no' quite covers it, pio. Perhaps 'why?' is a better response.

Lalaith
02-28-2006, 07:13 AM
Mintyztwin ?

Mint tea.... :rolleyes:

Mithalwen
02-28-2006, 07:15 AM
I think I have it (thanks to all the hints, of course) !

Kettle of Fish

As in "A different kettle of fish", an alternative.

Something suspicious is fishy and so would the tea made in a fish kettle be.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-28-2006, 08:09 AM
Kettle of Fish it is.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
02-28-2006, 09:46 AM
:rolleyes:

So bloody obvious when you see it...

I think you two just made up that user. I've never heard of such a name. :p

JennyHallu
02-28-2006, 09:51 AM
GAH! Exactly Eomer...so bloody obvious...

And the reason neither of us have heard of Kettle of Fish is that he hasn't been here since before the Barrow-Downs used a vBulletin Board.

Only old fogeys like Squatter have ever heard of him... ;)

EDIT: Oh wait, you're an old fogey too... :D :p

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh
02-28-2006, 09:53 AM
I think you two just made up that user. I've never heard of such a name.

No we didn't (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/member.php?u=657).

The thread's gone now, but Underhill once told Belin that every member apart from the two of them was invented by him. You know who to blame now.

JennyHallu
02-28-2006, 09:57 AM
The thread's gone now, but Underhill once told Belin that every member apart from the two of them was invented by him. You know who to blame now.

And neither of those two names are particularly active, hmm?

That was a good riddle, I enjoyed it!

Eomer of the Rohirrim
02-28-2006, 10:10 AM
Last activity 1970? A signature which I cannot fathom without a dictionary (Squatter hallmark)? I sense trickery! ;)

Seriously though, that was one of the more enjoyable questions on this thread. Most of the time someone gets the answer within a few hours.

Bêthberry
02-28-2006, 10:54 AM
No we didn't (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/member.php?u=657).

The thread's gone now, but Underhill once told Belin that every member apart from the two of them was invented by him. You know who to blame now.

Now, is that "him" Underhill or Kettle It likely explains Kettle's role in Belin's game, now, doesn't it? Explains the game, too. ;)

A bit of Kettle memberabilia:


When I stuck 'Kettle of Fish' in the name generator I got:

Loathsome Black Rider

and Elvish: Dûrtinco

I quite like the Loathsome Black Rider bit. The Durtinco doesn't sound like a flowing elvish name.


Clearly a case of the kettle calling the Rider black.



One of the advantages of having a name like 'Kettle of Fish' is that it is highly unlikely someone has gotten ahead of you and claimed it.


It would appear that it is also highly unlikely that any remember it. :p

Mithalwen
02-28-2006, 12:16 PM
This is a hard act to follow and is bound to be a disappointment.... heigh ho....

Lissom serpent initially after ash

Hilde Bracegirdle
02-28-2006, 03:02 PM
I don't suppose you'd believe I had the old and fishy answer scribbed at my desk at home over the weekend, and promptly forget ere Monday rolled in? Thought not....

Ah well, on to more adventures with the member's list! Serpent...Hmmm.

Gil-Galad
02-28-2006, 05:38 PM
bah... i want to say Sharku and Mithadan, cause i remember one of them had a "Smiling is for hipocrites" Avvie with a snake in it...

Lhunardawen
03-01-2006, 05:46 AM
Say this isn't cryptic....say this isn't cryptic...say this isn't cryptic...

Mithalwen
03-01-2006, 06:39 AM
Well I could if that would make you happy.... but it would be a big, fat lie....

Gil this has nothing to do with Avvies it is just a (I hope) fairly straight forward cryptic clue which will let you construct the Downers name.

Mithalwen
03-04-2006, 04:30 AM
Time for a clue? If you work out what "ash" is the rest should be easy. Americans may be at a disadvantage and anyone who knows why menzies is pronounced mingies may have an advantage......

Cailín
03-04-2006, 04:52 AM
Time for a clue? If you work out what "ash" is the rest should be easy. Americans may be at a disadvantage and anyone who knows why menzies is pronounced mingies may have an advantage......

I don't feel like I have an advantage, but with ash you might be talking about the Anglo-Saxon rune then? I think it's the ae, but I'm not sure.

Anguirel
03-04-2006, 05:02 AM
Time for a clue? If you work out what "ash" is the rest should be easy. Americans may be at a disadvantage and anyone who knows why menzies is pronounced mingies may have an advantage......

Knows why? Well, that's something to do with the archaic Scots letter yogh, but how that links to anything I have nary a clue...

Mithalwen
03-04-2006, 05:21 AM
Oh Anguirel... some of us are rather fond of Archaic letters.......

Anguirel
03-04-2006, 05:36 AM
I like digamma myself.

Mithalwen
03-04-2006, 05:48 AM
Maths? :confused:

I think I have told you enough to get you started.... :D

Anguirel
03-04-2006, 06:39 AM
Nah, not Maths, Greek...

Digamma is the reason lots of really really ancient Minoan Greek words end in inthos. I forget exactly how or why. It's pronounced something like a w.

Now I'm crawling back into the linguistic waste whence I came. But I hope my yogh contribution is of some help to a sharper aftercomer...

Morsul the Dark
03-04-2006, 09:56 AM
aelithes

I don't feel like I have an advantage, but with ash you might be talking about the Anglo-Saxon rune then? I think it's the ae, but I'm not sure.

so ae-

then serpent slithers....sooooo.............

aelithes

i know im wrong but its a try