Which Downer Am I!

[Mithalwen]

You are right though the rest of the clue was intended differently.

æ is indeed called ash and is just the most beautiful letter to my mind..like a little flower.

So we have ae

Lissom means much the same as lithe

and the initial letter of serpent is s

aelithes indeed.

Your go Morsul.

Oh Cailin - I am so sorry - I was on a library computer yesterday and somehow I didn't see your response else I would have acknowledged it ....... So while I guess Morsul has the turn you get a lot of Kudos

[Morsul the Dark]

The river angel from the mysterious date

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Is this cryptic?

Mysterious date . . . last visit 1969?

anduin angel 44 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/member.php?u=1195)?

[Morsul the Dark]

correctus

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I guess she should be 'shading' Glirdan now . . .

[Anguirel]

Jenny_Hallu, my pet werewolf, with reference to her signature...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

As Gandalf, greatest of Istar, wisest of the Maiar, once said, 'Yes.'

Take the thread, Anguirel.

[Anguirel]

L'epee qui brille azure
'Ound Dog sans "l"
Avec "se" a la fin

[JennyHallu]

IN FRENCH???

Ang...Ang...that's just...in French, Ang?

[Kath]

Evisse the Blue?

[JennyHallu]

But wait...it's simple French...

Evisse the Blue?

Thank goodness for taking Latin in high school...

[Anguirel]

Kath got it, just...

Take it from the top, turtle-farmeress!

[Kath]

Mm, seconds count on here! Course, getting them is one thing, making them up is another :rolleyes:

Penguin lover, not high.

[Anguirel]

Easy. Thinlomien!

[Kath]

But of course!

[Anguirel]

Fateful seamstress, do you venture
Still upon ideal waters?

[Glirdan]

I'm going to guess at Spawn.

[Anguirel]

No...a member with a lower profile...

[Mithalwen]

Nerindel - spirited weaver of fates?

[Anguirel]

Aye, who says she "sails upon a sea of ideas".

The crown is yours, Mith...

[Mithalwen]

An easy one because of being over committed :(

Seen in the Mirror of Galadriel perhaps?

[Alcarillo]

Legolas, for his namesake's infamous appearance in the mirror.

[Mithalwen]

Ooh good thinking but the answer is much simpler. :D

[Thinlómien]

Gandalf_the_White?

[mormegil]

Another simple guess

SamwiseGamgee

[Lalaith]

well, given that Galadriel would presumably sometimes see her own reflection...we have an Alatariel, and two other variants of that name...am I warm at all?

[The Saucepan Man]

Perhaps Galadriel's Mirror would have shown her as she once was ...

GaladrieloftheOlden?

[Mithalwen]

Well you are more or less in the right direction if not quite on the right track.....you are all being far too specific..

[Gil-Galad]

hmmm... i was thinking Boromir88 cause in ze movie he appears in ze mirror ja

[Mithalwen]

*Smacks head against desk* Still going down the same wrong track......aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggg gggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Kath]

Aiwendil? PT is Late Istar and Frodo thinks he sees Gandalf who at the time has just died.

Or am I wandering completely off track here?

[Anguirel]

Nah, it's going to be something really general...like "water" or "visions" methinks...but I can't yet find anything of the sort...

[Mithalwen]

Thank you Ang, darling, for giving me some indication that my understanding of the words "you are all being far too specific" is not exclusive to me.

Anguirel is very much on the right track and very close.

[Mithalwen]

But Kath is looking at the right area even on the wrong track.... ;)

[Kath]

Okay, Amanaduial for shadow of starlight?

[Mithalwen]

Ooh that is nice and possible but not the one I was thinking off.... it is slightly more specific - remember Ang was very near and I am sure you will hit it..... just have to lynch someone now...

[Kath]

Brinniel - reflections of darkness.

I'm running out here!

[Mithalwen]

Again plausible but not the one. This downer has been around more recently though it seems hasn't posted for about the same time. It is the PT that you are after...as you have clearly gathered..

[Kath]

While I'm looking:

symestreem - face in the water?

[Mithalwen]

While I'm looking:

symestreem - face in the water?


That is the one.... too simple? Funny I don't think he/she has posted while I have been here but the PT stuck in my mind......

Over to you m'dear.

[Kath]

Too simple!?! It took me half an hour :rolleyes:

Healing those in the Last Homely House.

[Anguirel]

I'm going to try the obvious

Elrond of Rivendell

as well as the slightly more laterally thought out

elronds_daughter

[Mithalwen]

Too simple!?! It took me half an hour :rolleyes:

Healing those in the Last Homely House.


I meant that the face in the water would be the answer to what you might see in the Mirror :D .. I nearly chose the dead marshes instead..

[Kath]

No to both I'm afraid Ang.

I meant that the face in the water would be the answer to what you might see in the Mirror .. I nearly chose the dead marshes instead..
Had symestreem not been right that would have been where I went next!

[Mithalwen]

No to both I'm afraid Ang.


Had symestreem not been right that would have been where I went next!


Awww - you did well....I just htought face in teh water could have been either the mirror or the marshes but I thought the mirror was better...


Ooh I have had an idea (just been thinking about HArry Potter) but I almost don't want to be right sinceI am running out of ideas

Imladris - tears of a Phoenix? Imladris is rivendell and aren't Phoenix tears healing?

[Kath]

That's it Mith! I had hoped someone would be thinking along the same lines!

So mwahaha, your turn :p

[Mithalwen]

Argh.... erm

A nice tear with verve?

[Kath]

Encaitare - bittersweet symphony?

[Mithalwen]

After a full 120 seconds you get the thread back !

[Kath]

And yet it takes me a day to notice :rolleyes:

A hobbit that exists yet does not.

[Glirdan]

burrahobbit is my immediate thought.

[The Saucepan Man]

A hobbit that exists yet does not.Firefoot the Illusionary Holbytla?

[Kath]

That's it Sauce.

[The Saucepan Man]

Righty-ho. :)

Movie editor is partially consumed by animal - a tarantula!

[Kath]

Well it seems it isn't just me that's stuck on this! Can we have a clue please Sauce?

[The Saucepan Man]

The answer is staring you in the face ... :p

[Kath]

Oh my the help that was! *faints* :rolleyes:

[JennyHallu]

Is it Kath? If so...I can only interprete the middle clue. Partially consumed could be "ate" without the E.

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope. Not Kath.

It is a cryptic clue, I must admit, but it's a very easy one if you know where to look.

[Bêthberry]

It is a cryptic clue, I must admit, but it's a very easy one if you know where to look.

Dearie me, SpM, they're all easy once one knows where to look. :p

[Turambar]

As Gandalf once hinted.

Cryptic clues usually have a "straight" portion at the beginnig or the end - is there a bone-house around here who's a movie editor - or a tarantula? :eek:

[The Saucepan Man]

Getting warm ...

[The Saucepan Man]

Dearie me, SpM, they're all easy once one knows where to look.Indeed, but looking at the clue has a particular significance here ...

[Mithalwen]

You mean the name is concealed in the clue? If so I can't see for looking..

[Turambar]

alatarhttp://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon5.gif

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's to do with the dash in the clue, I think. Tar-ancalime?

Very easy cryptic clue? Oxymoron, anyone? :rolleyes: ;)

[Mithalwen]

I think Turambar has it.... how silly of me... especially since it is a downer I know.... surely I am the world's least observant person...

Edit NB Alatar organises the sequence by sequence discussion of the movies

[The Saucepan Man]

Turambar has it.

Alatar is the editor of the sequence-by-sequence discussion in the Movie forum, and his name is concealed in (partially consumed by) animal - a tarantula.

So you see. The answer was indeed staring you in the face ...

:D

Take it away, Turambar. :)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

*applause*

I just love finding out what they mean. :D

[Turambar]

I don't know very many citizens - would someone else like to go?

[JennyHallu]

I would....


But anything I could devise would be painfully simple. More of a race than a puzzle.

[JennyHallu]

Ok...just because this seems to need a push.



Looks a little devilish upon first meeting.

[Glirdan]

Ummm...Gil or myself? (That was a complete wild guess) Or is it perhaps a little more cryptic then that??

[JennyHallu]

It is an attempt at a cryptic clue. I'm not sure if it's very good.

[Kath]

spawn perhaps? Please don't ask for reasoning, I have none.

[JennyHallu]

nope.

Either I actually managed to come up with a fairly difficult clue or I'm moshing cryptic clue rules together hopelessly. I'm going to hope it's A.

[Glirdan]

Oooo!! B-W? Or perhaps phantom?

[JennyHallu]

nope. nope.

Keep trying.

[The Saucepan Man]

Littlemanpoet, whose nickname when shortened to lmp looks a little devilish?

[JennyHallu]

Yay! Since littlemanpoet does not capitalize his own name, when you take the initials ("first" was supposed to indicate this) it is lmp, which looks like imp, a "little devil".

Your thread, Sauce. But first, a request for advice: how could this clue have been improved? I'm really trying to learn how to solve and write cryptic clues...and I thought this one was very straightforward, which makes me wonder if I didn't write it properly.

[The Saucepan Man]

But first, a request for advice: how could this clue have been improved?It seemed a pretty good clue to me. :)

There's no rule that the questions here have to be cryptic. It's just the medium that I work best with in these types of games. For an explanation of how cryptic clues generally work, have a look at the guidance which I gave early on in the Cryptic Clues thread.

And now for the next question:

A recent incumbent is spinning one in a room at university.

[Gil-Galad]

hmm... only person that comes to mind is AbercrombieofRohan...

[Mithalwen]

Well recent incumbent made me think of Gilthalion "hobbitus emeritus" but that doesn't help with the rest of the clue, and SpM's clues tend to work properly so unless (once again) I am failing to make an the necessary connections - I am on the wrong track.

[Mithalwen]

Time to herenistarion this

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, OK - you want a hint. :rolleyes:

"Recent incumbent" is the straight clue - the answer should not be difficult to find...

The rest is cryptic, but fairly straightforward as cryptic clues go.

[Anguirel]

Squatter?

[Mithalwen]

Oh I think that he means it is a new downer who has "eno" one spun around in theirname... maybe ....

[The Saucepan Man]

No. On both counts.

Although this Downer is relatively new ...

[Mithalwen]

No. On both counts.

Although this Downer is relatively new ...

Oh.. well ....realtive to what though.....

Spinner could be a spider ..

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Room at university is dorm, and it has 'one' in it. Like, doneorm, or something. Is that near the track?

[The Saucepan Man]

Spinner could be a spider ..

Room at university is dorm, and it has 'one' in it.You're both on the wrong track.

Spiders are not involved. And "room" and "university" are two separate clues.

[Valesse]

I'm going to try my hand at this, though I doubt I understand the clues...

Is it Caranlondien?

1) Joined in March.
2) She is a freshman in college (university).
2) Perhaps 'spinning' refers to her head after smashing into a "were-door" in the TiG XX? :rolleyes:

Its a stretch, but its something...

[Mithalwen]

Well room could be space rather than a more tangible room... spin I don't know if it doesn't meen either spider or rotating letters...

[Diamond18]

Hookbill the Goomba

Because spinning = wheel = wheels are mentioned in Hookbil's sig.

And room rhymes with goom. :rolleyes:

Though I'm not sure what recent incumbent even means. And is a join date of 2003 really relatively new?

Alas, I can't think of anything else.

[The Saucepan Man]

No correct answer so far.

Well room could be space rather than a more tangible roomNo. I'm looking for a word meaning a room.

Because spinning = wheelNot a wheel of the vehicular variety, but ...

Though I'm not sure what recent incumbent even means.It refers specifically to this thread.

Should be as clear as the nose on your face now. :D

[Diamond18]

JennyHallu

Hall = Room

[Lalaith]

...and a cunning reference to a certain 18th century invention....very good indeed, sir.

[The Saucepan Man]

Bingo! Correct, Diamond. :)

Recent incumbent (of this thread) = she asked the question before mine.

Spinning one = a Spinning Jenny.

Room = Hall.

University = U.

See - I told you it was easy ... ;)

[Diamond18]

Okay, I've got one for you:

Heigh ho, Sandman, away!

[Lalaith]

Sleepy Ranger?

[Diamond18]

Correct you are, oh good smelling one.

Lone Ranger + Sandman = Sleepy Ranger

Take it away.

[Lalaith]

Their man goes around haunting Square Mile?

[Diamond18]

Uh.... the phantom?

The Barrow-wight?

[Lalaith]

Nope!

This might actually be a bit unfair for non-Brits, who might want to google Square Mile.

[Diamond18]

Okay.... um... well The Saucepan Man lives in London and has "man" in his name... That's all I got. :rolleyes:

[Lalaith]

No love, sorry....it's not that sort of clue.

[Diamond18]

So, you can confirm that this downer doesn't live in London? :D

The "their" is confusing me. Does the question pertain to multiple downers?

[Lalaith]

The clue refers both to the name of the Downer and their personal title. No "inside knowledge" about the Downer in question is required.

[Mithalwen]

I guess Square mile is "the City" ?but IU can't think of any downer it would apply to

[The Saucepan Man]

The Square Mile, or City of London, is a centre of capitalism.

So is it Thenamir, the Capitalist Spectre?

[Lalaith]

Ah, I suspected you would eat that clue for breakfast, Mr Saucie.

Their man, anagram ("goes around") Thenamir.
A Capitalist Spectre might haunt the Square Mile.

[Diamond18]

Saucie, Saucie, Sauuuuuuuuuccieeeeeeeee..... *ahem*

[The Saucepan Man]

Alright, already! I've been thinking. :rolleyes: ;)

Next clue:

In his World, he's an Orc ... one of few words.

[Glirdan]

I think this is way to easy but the first name that comes to mind is my dear friend Wilwa's brother, WaynetheGoblin.

[The Saucepan Man]

Sometimes, the obvious answer is the correct one ...

Well done, Glirdy. You're up next. :)

[Glirdan]

Sometimes, the obvious answer is the correct one ...

Well done, Glirdy. You're up next.

Why thank you. :D

This one might be rather easy, but who knows...

The inventor of the oxymoron.

Have at it.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Perky Ent? I think that may have been done before. :D

[Thinlómien]

Or Gil-Galad?

[Gil-Galad]

ha yeah... the two obvious choices have been taken


hmm... Sleepy Ranger perhaps?

[Diamond18]

I'm thinking Hookbill the Goomba for his PT "Alive without Breath"

Also, the distinction of "inventor" must have some pertinence and H. has made numerous contributions to the Barrow Downs Product line.

[Glirdan]

Diamond, that was a great guess and if I would have seen that earlier, I probably would have chose that. But, it was Lommy that got it. (I'm not good at this kind of thing...) Take it away Lommy!!

[Thinlómien]

Barrow-Downs' Madonna

[Boromir88]

Hmm, I'm trying to figure out what you may be referring to. Perhaps somebody participating in Middle-earth Idol?

But for now I will go with Bethberry, who's "real" name is Madonna. (As far as Estelyn thinks :p )

[Thinlómien]

Well, you got it. Evidently I should develop my question-making skill, or then you're just too bright. :p

Anyway, the thread is yours!

[Boromir88]

Naa, it's just that thread was stuck in my head after Bethberry said I really was Aldo Nova, which I still crack up at. :D

Let's give this a try then:

our Seed of Veracity

[mormegil]

Heren Istarion?

[Mithalwen]

The only real estel?

[Boromir88]

Neither. :)

[Mithalwen]

arrgh I thought someone had something about truth in their PT but no luck finding. a grain of truth..or an anagram.... ?

[Boromir88]

You were looking in the right spot, just not for the right thing. :D

[mormegil]

Lindil?

Seeker of the straight path

[the phantom]

Seed=scion, perhaps?

Veracity=adherence to the truth=the faithful, perhaps?

Scion of the faithful=Nilp

[Boromir88]

Indeed it is phantom. The thread is yours.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

My, what a wonderful puzzle that was! :D

Okay, sorry, 'bout that. Please get back to quizzing.

[the phantom]

I will not accept an answer without reasoning. I want you to figure this one out- not guess it.

I'll give hints if it seems necessary.

the flip side of a detested head

[Diamond18]

Dude. It's YOU.

I see you changed it, but it doesn't matter...

Flip Side = opposite

so,

Detested = Beloved

Tail is another way of saying Shadow. So I suppose Head does make more sense, as it's the opposite.

Either way, it's you.

[Diamond18]

And this is the part where you say, "Why yes, Diamond, you're absolutely correct, you genius you. It's your turn."

:p

[the phantom]

I'm not going to confirm your answer till you send me a frustrated "hurry up and confirm my darn answer" pm. ;)

(or you could just count this as your confirmation, though it's not completely official)

[Diamond18]

:D :p

Wise, hammer wielding, and good smelling to boot.

[Roa_Aoife]

Could it be Sophia the Thunder Mistress? Her PT is Scent of Simbelmynë, so she smells nice, and as the Mistress of Thunder, she would wield a hammer, and Sophia means wisdom, so wise, hammer wielding, and good smelling.

[Diamond18]

Correct! Your turn.

[Roa_Aoife]

This shouldn't be too hard.

The greatest comandment

[Diamond18]

Am I on the right track here? The greatest commandment is to Love one another, so I'm thinking it has something to do with that.

[Roa_Aoife]

Actually, that's the second greatest comandment. But you're thinking along the right lines.

[Diamond18]

Okay, a guess:

Formendacil

For his current signature:


"I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for my sheep."

Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

?

[Roa_Aoife]

Sorry, that's not the correct answer, and that's not the greatest comandment.

[Diamond18]

I just can't think of a Downer to go with "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul and with all your mind." Unless someone has that as their signature and I've missed it.

[Roa_Aoife]

Hint: it's in the name

Edit: Or rather, the name just points to it

[Diamond18]

Errr...

Elu Ancalime

Pretty much God in ME.

Edit: No no... I was thinking of Eru Iluvatar. *facepalm* Har... dee... har.

[Roa_Aoife]

No more hints until a few more people guess.

[mormegil]

Mark 12_30

[Roa_Aoife]

Bingo! Take it away Morm.

[mormegil]

Okay I'm not nearly as good at this as most but I'll give it a shot.

If you want to know my real name daer

[Roa_Aoife]

Is it The only real Estel?

[mormegil]

Nope

[Diamond18]

davem?

[mormegil]

No it's not Davem and I tweaked the clue...it wasn't really making sense as it was written...sorry.

[Diamond18]

malkatoj?

[Roa_Aoife]

Alesse?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The only thing I got from reading backwards is that Nogrod is an anagram of Gordon. :D

[mormegil]

none of the above. I'll give hints if needed.

[Gil-Galad]

good ol' H-I perhaps?

[tom bombariffic]

Shadowelf?

(because -dae is 'shadow' in elvish, as in Dor Daedeloth?)

bombariffic

[Diamond18]

I think hints are needed, morm....

[mormegil]

Eht tseb tnih I nac evig si ot daer ekil siht dna wonk taht eh sah ssel naht 001 stsop.


Hope that hint helps Diamond.

Oh and the last two guesses were incorrect.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Nonnacedak

Backwards is kadecannon, his email address.

My time was not wasted! :D

[mormegil]

Glad somebody found it. Correct Eomer. Sorry but I'm not good at making things cryptic so I go obscure and vague instead.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It was certainly different, Morm. The only other thing I got from reading all those names backwards was redlimb, from a user called bmilder. Everything else was gibberish (unsurprisingly).

Right, must think of a clue. Back soon.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

See! Arien visits the beaches of Elenna.

Have at it. :cool:

[tom bombariffic]

Is it nightwalker?

Because if Arien is in Numenor it will be sunset...tenuous link I know...

bombariffic

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Interesting guess! Not right, though. I'm not giving hints yet, by the way.

[Diamond18]

Ah -- a good puzzle, morm -- I figured out that I should be reading someone's name backwards, but alas I didn't come across Nonnacedak as I was searching for likely suspects in the member's list.

I'll have to give yours a bit more thought Eomer...

[Diamond18]

Numenorean

my reason: He has an avatar (see! you see people's avatars) which depicts a beach scene which suddenly goes orange, like the sun is setting. And of course, he's in Numenor.

Like so. (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/member.php?u=1206)

[tom bombariffic]

Then your man must be "son of numenor".

Actually an even more fragile link than the last, but Arien made me think "sun", and "sun"/"son" got me thinking...

bomabriffic.

...Just noticed Diamond's post and reckon it's correct. blast.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I like that guess too, Tom; but Diamond is indeed correct. :)

On you go.

[Diamond18]

I'm not really good at coming up with hard ones, so...

See See Lee Lee

[tom bombariffic]

leighlei? No idea what the 'see see' is for, but that's all I can think of right now, looking at the member list...

bombariffic

[Diamond18]

Sorry, no, it's not Leighlei. This member is more active than that.

[tom bombariffic]

any chance of a clue please?

bombariffic

[Diamond18]

It was inspired by Eomer's last clue.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

In the hope of being pointed to the right lines...

Kath? Because there are two people in her avatar, and there's a sort of duality going on in the clue. Can't explain what the words mean, though.

[Diamond18]

You're right in looking to the avatars, but it's not Kath.

[Diamond18]

I didn't think it would be a hard one, but... do you give up? Should I give the answer? I don't want this thread to die just because of my question. :rolleyes:

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I've spent quite a while looking through the avatars (apparently only 3 people are playing this game just now ;) ).

Sure you couldn't give a li'l clue?

[Diamond18]

The Downer in question is female. There is an actress in her avatar. Her name is Lee Lee Sobieski.

That's more than a lil' clue. :p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Easy when you know who that is, I suppose. And just, who is she? :p

Embarrassing to get this wrong but the face in that avatar is so small and I can't see it well. Is it Folwren?

[Glirdan]

Curses, you beat me to it. I was going to say either her or Fea, but I'm pretty sure it's Folwren.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Who is that hot actress in Fea's avatar, I wonder... :p

[Diamond18]

Well that would be Fea. :p

Eomer got it. Folwren has a picture of Lee Lee Sobieski as Joan of Arc for her avvie.

Your turn again.

[Diamond18]

Easy when you know who that is, I suppose. And just, who is she? :p

Well if I'd said See See Joan Joan it would have been much too easy. :p Plus it wouldn't have rhymed....

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I guess this one will be terribly easy but it made me laugh.

Would that the Downers had a single neck!

[Diamond18]

Anguirel?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

And why would it be Anguirel, dear? :p

(Incidentally, it's not.)

[Diamond18]

It just sounds like something he'd say. When you said it "made you laugh" I assumed you were quoting something the Downer in question had said.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's not a Downer quotation, though it is quotation-derived. That's the first clue.

[mormegil]

Garin for his Caligula avatar and it's a Caligula quote about wishing all Roman's had a single neck.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Got it! Oooh baby, he's got it! :D

Take it away, my lupine comrade. ;)

[mormegil]

Thank you Eomer!

Card's End mistake

[Diamond18]

Um, okay. This is tenuous...

Nurumaiel

Because "Card's End" might refer to the personal title... it's what you get after Ghost Prince of Cardolan, so... card's end.

Her PT is "Vice of Twilight" which I think is a typo of "Voice of Twilight." (Or maybe it is supposed to be Vice. But I'm stretching, here.)

[mormegil]

You're on the wrong track on one point but the correct track on another. :p

[Glirdan]

My guess is that she was right about the Personal Title. Perhaps what we're looking at is an anagram?

[mormegil]

My guess is that she was right about the Personal Title. Perhaps what we're looking at is an anagram?

Yes and No

[Diamond18]

I've combed through all the PT's I can find. Can you tell me, is it an actual PT or does this person still have Ghost Prince of Cardolan? (My eyes, think of my poor eyes... :p)

[mormegil]

First I would like to say that this is my attempt at being cryptic though it probably doesn't follow the rules to the letter but oh well. Yes the clue relates to an actual PT, though you are a sad lot asking for clues and not guessing at all.

No it's not Ghost Prince.

[Diamond18]

littlemanpoet

Bard Oder -- Odor is misspelled (though intentionally).

edit: I still think it's LMP but I'm not so sure that Oder is a misspelling of Odor, maybe it's Order. Instead of Bad Odor is Bard Order but for the pun to work the R is taken from Order and put into Bad. Ach. LMP explained it once upon a time but the explanation is fuzzy now.

[mormegil]

Sorry but no.

[Diamond18]

*whimper*

Well, I hope someone a bit smarter can come along and guess, 'cause I'm officially clean out of ideas.

[mormegil]

Think of a synonym for mistake and that may help a bit.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Is it Iarwain?

His PT is Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox. The mistaken end or ending mistake you refer to could be twisted around into a primordial paradox.

[mormegil]

Card's End mistake

When you find a synonym for mistake combine it with End.

[mormegil]

a bad choice of words for a synonym but mistake = err

[mormegil]

Additional hint seemingly...

Bugger killer.

[ninja91]

Stupid guess: Minas Morgul?

[mormegil]

No not Minas Morgul, is that even a Barrowdowner?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

All I can think is Birdland who is our Ghastly Neekerbreeker. But she doesn't fit all of the clues... :rolleyes:

[mormegil]

All I can think is Birdland who is our Ghastly Neekerbreeker. But she doesn't fit all of the clues... :rolleyes:

No it doesn't fit one of the clues :p .

It's in reference to another book, a non-Tolkien book.

[Valier]

Could it be Ender? I know the book you speak of Morm but I cannot find a member with a suitable name to fit your clues...yet

Edit: It could be Beanamir.....Bean was also a bugger killer.

[mormegil]

You're on the right path but not the correct answer. There is a PT that matches or comes very close to matching...think about it and you will get it.

[JennyHallu]

I know, I know!!!

Orual, our resident Speaker for the Dead!

[mormegil]

Thank you I was beginning to feel that my clue was hopelessly bad and that nobody would ever get it. I'm sorry if it was too vague.

[Diamond18]

I still don't get it even knowing the answer. :confused:

[Valier]

You have to know Orson Scott Card's book The speaker for the dead, I think Orual's title is speaker for the dead.

[mormegil]

Yes the hint was Card's Ender which is of course related to the series Ender's Game. A later book was Speaker for the Dead and his PT is Speaker of the Dead. Sorry for having such an awful clue. :(

[Kath]

It wasn't an awful clue morm, we're just not well-read enough to know the answer ;)

[Valier]

I thought it was a good clue!:) I never even thought to look at peoples titles, from now on I will! Good job Morm for the question and good job to Jenny for getting it! Nice to see another person who has read the books (besides me and Jenny)

[Roa_Aoife]

*hits self in head* I adore that series, and I didn't get it.... I must be losing my mind. So Jenny's clue is up next?

[JennyHallu]

Yes, as soon as I come up with a clue. I was so pleased with myself for coming up with an answer I ignored the little man in my head saying "But you'll have to have a clue! You don't have a clue!" I just shushed it with the tried and true "Why start now?"

[JennyHallu]

Here...this is simple but should hold you:

Luke's other sister

[Glirdan]

Ahh! To simple, that would be Lhuna.

[Diamond18]

Eowyn Skywalker

[Glirdan]

Ok, now that I think of it, that was to simple. But I thought it would have been a little more cryptic...hmm...Jenny?

[JennyHallu]

Diamond has it. It was pathetically simple, I know...but I really didn't have a clue.

[Diamond18]

I really appreciated the simple clue after Morm's brain soupifer. ;) (Which was really clever, and I SO would have gotten if I'd read any Orson Scott Card. Or worked in a library and saw his books daily. Oh, er... nevermind then.)

Anyway,

Noggin's Meteor Dialler

[Kath]

Ok there is some seriously mad reasoning behind this so I'm just going to post the guess not how I got there!

Fea?

[Diamond18]

Sorry, nope!

[mormegil]

Silly question, does it have anything to do with Noggin Television Station?

[Diamond18]

No. Especially since I have no idea what that is. :p

[mormegil]

Nogrod?

No. Especially since I have no idea what that is. :p

No kids, I see :D

[Diamond18]

No on both counts. ;)

[Diamond18]

Here's a little hintsy wintsy:

Think anagrammacally.

[Kath]

Ah! It's Durelin.

"Estelo dagnir, Melo ring" becomes Noggin's meteor dialler :)

[Diamond18]

Correct!

Take it away, Quath.

[Kath]

It'll have to be easy. There's a reason I don't often reply to these!

As cold as death.

[littlemanpoet]

As cold as death.
Lush?

[Kath]

Fraid not.

[symestreem]

arcticstorm?

[Kath]

symestreem! I've heard many good things about you :)

However, you're not right.

[Durelin]

Hookbill the Goomba perhaps?

"Alive without breath" is another part of Gollum's riddle about fish as I recall.

[Kath]

That's the one Durelin :)

[Durelin]

Okey doke, here's a hint:

The sound of baking chocolate.