Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I was concerned for a second that Heren recaptured his account from me and was up to RPGing adventures of which I was uninformed. :p Either that or I agreed to something that I'd already forgotten. :D

[Kath]

Noggie as a Balrog eh? We'll have to ask Lommy about that ;)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Form: Today I've got to work, pack, and run far too many errands for comfort. I don't know when I'll be around. But if you can get a Nain reply up before too long, I *should* be able to get a final Saeryn response up before I leave.

[Formendacil]

Form: Today I've got to work, pack, and run far too many errands for comfort. I don't know when I'll be around. But if you can get a Nain reply up before too long, I *should* be able to get a final Saeryn response up before I leave.

Working on it now... You are a crafty one: forcing Nain (pretty much) to accompany Saeryn- in search of Degas!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I know. I'm horrible. :)

Sidenote: it's mid-afternoon and I haven't started packing yet. I'm leaving my house as soon as my brother's done showering.

If I don't post tonight, I don't know when I'll next be able to before next Wednesday. So basically, if I can't sneak some time in, here's what happens:

They can't find Degas. Saeryn ponders for a bit as they walk. The silence is not uncomfortable so much as it isn't friendly either. She finally tells Nain that she'll forgive him once Eodwine does. :)

[Folwren]

Poor Nain is being run in circles!!! Can't anyone have any pity on the poor dwarf? :p He's doing his best. You'd think they'd at least try to understand.

[Nogrod]

Okay. Hopefully I'm not turned into a Balrog yet... :)

But here is my first post after the time jump. Put it in there when you jump. I will be online at the August 4th the earliest.

And if there are any things that need editing, please edit them. I can do that work only after a week from now.

There seems to have developed a certain timeline of things going on with the buildingsite. Please see if they look realistic enough for you - and change them accordingly if needed.

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Nogrod's post


Stigend had been busy the days that followed. The first days passed at the planning board, one of the tables of the Hall had to do as one. He and Garstan draw and redraw, discussed and sat in silence. They talked with Frodides and Kara several times a day and every now and then they consulted Eodwine, Saeryn and Marenil.

Stigend had made an inventory on the building materials on the second day, making himself familiar with the Mead Hall’s facilities and tools at the same time. There was enough timber to start building, but a lot more was needed. The saws seemed well enough, but the chip axes and framework-drills were rusty and dum. He got his own with him and could start by himself, and those of the Hall could be made usable with some care taken with them. On the third day they managed to make an order for required timber and other things needed.

Within a week they had started the actual work, beginning with the kitchen oven and the fireplace. Garstan had designed the oven and the fireplace with the help of Frodides and Kara and Stigend had designed a firewall to surround them and came up with a solution of how it should be attached to the wooden wall. Stigend was somewhat familiar with masonry and bricklayer’s work but needed some guidance from Garstan every now and then.

It was during these days that he came familiar with Náin. He hadn’t actually met a dwarf in his life before. It was a place of personal reflection and discovery that greatly humiliated Stigend. From the beginning he had been prejudiced towards the dwarf, going over in his mind with all the generalisations people had about dwarves and trying to see them in Náin. It took one visit of a travelling stranger that had given Modtryth a bad look, complaining about the Dunlending rabble around him in a decent Hall to make Stigend realise his own prejudices.

He had been so happy with this new place that had taken Modtryth and Cnebba as themselves, as equal human beings that he had had no need to keep an eye on how others thought of his family. But that way he had also forgotten to keep an eye on his own mind. Now he realised to have thought almost like the people he had despised all his life beside Modtryth. Stigend was ashamed. Luckily he hadn’t made any nasty remarks or behaved badly towards Náin. But they had been only fellows at work. There had been nothing else.

After the incident he started looking at the dwarf with open eyes and was astonished of what he saw when he was not bringing all his prejudices along. Náin seemed flexible and friendly enough, but his skills with stone were just incredible. Even though this seemed not to be his real trade – he had heard he was more of an artist – he helped them every now and then and proved to be a real help indeed, able to do many of the things Garstan did. And the grace of the things he had touched! Náin seemed to be able to shape stone into any form he willed, like it was clay.

After the first week they started to have conversations during the work and at the pauses when Náin was around. Stigend appreciated the dwarf and he seemed not to think bad about him either. Even Stigend’s mediocre skills in masonry started to get better day by day.

On the third week the timber arrived and Stigend had to change his focus. Garstan would have still work to do with the fireplace now as the oven and the firewall were finished, but hewing the logs and especially preparing the framework was something that required an experienced hand and so he stick to the logs by himself. As he had helped Garstan with the easier tasks, Garstan could help him when the time came. And anyhow, as they would start to hoist the logs to their places they would need lots of strong arms to help them.

That was a happy time. There was work that gave him satisfaction and he had been getting on very well with Garstan whom he considered now his friend. And his family was accepted! Stigend and Modtryth were enjoying their new appointments to the fullest. And what warmed Stigend the most was to see Cnebba’s shining eyes every evening when he made minute descriptions of the games and plays he had had with Lèoðern and Garmund.

And Cnebba kept speaking about Lèoðern all the time. Stigend had thought of it a couple of times. Indeed he had noticed a little uncomfortableness in Garmund’s expressions one or two times when he had seen all the three together, but he was too busy with his work to mind it any more.


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[littlemanpoet]

Great post, Nogrod! I'll refine it for you (according to things we've discussed in PMs ;) ) and post it at the appropriate time. Thanks!

[Celuien]

I like it, Nogrod. :) Playground rivalries as discussed will arrive after your post goes to the thread. :D

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm not going to be able to post tonight. Sorry. :(

[Thinlómien]

I will write my after-jump post soon - which means tomorrow or the day after - (I'm sorry I'm asking this this late) so I'd like to know general feelings about Modtryth from the people she mostly interacts with: Kara, Frodides, Marenil and Léof (arranging carts etc. for her shopping).
I realised I can't write her feelings about those people before I have some idea of their feelings towards Moddie. Hopefully the thing doesn't work other way around... Modtryth probably gets along with most kinds of people anyway.

If any of the mentioned characters - or any other character - shows racist attitude towards Modtryth (and Cnebba) that at least might be good to know.

[Formendacil]

I'm not going to be able to post tonight. Sorry. :(

Don't worry too much, Ms. Fea... With your guidelines above, I think I can finish off the Saeryn chapter of Nain's day in one shot. Might be tomorrow though, if I don't get to it tonight...

[littlemanpoet]

I will be on vacation until August 1. I may get a chance to post tonight and maybe tomorrow morning. We'll see.

[Kath]

I realised I can't write her feelings about those people before I have some idea of their feelings towards Moddie.
Well Frodides will have acted a little standoffish to begin with, and would then have basically interrogated the woman until she'd found out everything about her. After that she'd have made her quite welcome.

Kara would have accepted her from the beginning and been friendly, happy to help her settle in and give her whatever details she needs for her job.

[JennyHallu]

Marenil would have been totally unaffected by any racial issues. He's Gondorian and doesn't quite understand this weird hangup the Rohirrim have with their neighbors. No Fea or LMP? *sniffs* Oh well. We'll survive for a little while.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Don't worry too much, Ms. Fea... With your guidelines above, I think I can finish off the Saeryn chapter of Nain's day in one shot. Might be tomorrow though, if I don't get to it tonight...Thanks, Formy.

[Thinlómien]

Here's my post to be placed after the time jump. It takes place after midday.

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Thinlómien's post


Modtryth was helping the cooks with unloading the newly bought random household goods - such as butter, salt, syrup, honey and herbs, carrying them to the kitchen and putting them to their right places. From the corner of her eye she could see her son running around the yard with his friends.

He looked very happy. He’s probably happier here than any place we’ve been in after Field Marshal Laudwine’s house, Modtryth thought, and it was many years ago. She knew the happiness wouldn’t last for ever – nothing ever did – but she hoped that it wouldn’t end too soon. Cnebba turned and saw his mother. This time, she saw, he was even smiling at her. And so was life.

Modtryth was having a job she liked. She had some kind of a place of trust – achieved only after a short discussion. Furthermore she was doing well in it, at least in her own opinion. And because the Lady Saeryn or Marenil the Steward had never criticised her (except the one shameful time when she bought wrong sort of flour) and sometimes they had praised her for a work well done, she thought that she couldn’t be doing very badly in their eyes either.

Frodides and Kara discussed the evening meal as they worked. Nowadays they were so used to Modtryth that they didn’t mind her being present while they planned and knew she wouldn’t mind them talking about their own business. Modtryth actually thought it was quite nice to listen their homely everyday talk about the ingredients of the stew.

Sometimes Frodides irritated Modtryth. She had basicly interrogated Modtryth about the tiniest details of her life until she had let her be and accepted her as a part of the household. Older women were like that everywhere, and Frodides had a good heart, so Modtryth didn’t have problems with getting along with her. Kara, she thought, was a nice girl, friendly and good company. It would have been difficult not to like her.

“I’ll go and find the children. I know my Cnebba well enough to know that if he doesn’t have food before the meal, he’ll get impossible. I wouldn’t be surpised if that was so with Lèoðern and Garmund as well”, Modtryth said after they were done with all the organising. “The children are always welcome in the kitchen”, Frodides said and smiled, “Strange that they haven’t come yet for a snack, those little darlings, too busy in their plays for even eating.” Modtryth smiled too. “I’ll go and get them then, as it seems to be okay with you.” Even before she had stepped out of the kitchen, she heard the two cooks start discussing about the stew again.



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If I have treated some of the characters badly, tell me and I'll correct it. (I don't, for example, have a very good idea of Frodides...) And Kath, also if you have planned something else for Kara's early afternoon, please just tell me and I'll change the narration.

[Kath]

What you've done with Kara is fine Lommy.

Frodides, though, is unlikely to call the children "those little darlings" in anything other than a sarcastic tone of voice. Perhaps that sentence could be changed to:

"Strange that they haven't yet come looking for food, they must be so into their games they've clear forgotten about eating."

[Formendacil]

Okay...

My sincere and abject apologies for not doing anything with Nain... I accidentally fell off the face of the Earth for a couple of days (meaning I didn't get online), and now I'm finding myself with near-crippling stitches in my left hand, making (as I discovered last night, while blogging the tale of how that came to be) longish periods of typing rather painful. I honestly don't expect to be able to do a post in the next while, so it may be best to go on without me.

If the day remains unfinished, and I DO find myself willing to try and write anything longer than this post here, I'll do it with all haste, but my stitches are saying "no promises".

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Oh Formy! May you heal fast and feel no pain...

PS, I'm back. For a bit.

[littlemanpoet]

Jenny, I'm a little concerned that you may have placed the character Marenil in an unenviable position. By the steward's refusals - be they ever so garrulous and kindly seeming - to obey his lord, he has undermined his lord's authority; and then walked away without so much as a 'your pardon, lord'. The lord in question thus found it necessary to choose between allowing his authority to be so undermined, or on the other hand, asserting it. He has chosen to assert it. Which puts Marenil in his unenviable position.

If you would like to revise your post so as to remove the need for such a choice, I'll be happy to revise mine. Just let me know.

[JennyHallu]

Marenil has made no refusals to obey the Lord's demands. He has stated his opinion on the finances of Eodwine, and pointed out that there is far too much to do right away to make an immediate decision.

Also I am sick and don't really feel up to a reply...but I'll be out of town over the weekend. I don't see that I'll get a reply up before Tuesday at the earliest. If you go on, I'll ask Pio to edit something in.

[littlemanpoet]

Jenny, sorry you're ill. Whether or not Marenil intended his words to be taken the way Eodwine did, Eodwine took them that way. Let the story roll on, then, and we'll see how the plot unfolds.

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Okay, it's time to move on to the new Day.

This break room computer doesn't allow me copy & paste, so I'll have to take care of placing Nogrod's and Lommie's posts later.

Sorry this has taken so long, friends.

[Folwren]

I'm sorry to hear about your accident, Formy. Hope you get better soon.

--

Who's starting the new day? And how far is the time leap going to be? I think that, finally, I'll be introducing Thornden's sister! Yay!

Looking forward to writing here again - it's been over a month, I think.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I've edited my last post so as to take the Gandalf-esque bite out of it. It only struck me later that I had borrowed the phrase from the master. :rolleyes:

Folwren, I'm about to post up Nogrod's and Thinlomien's posts to the rpg thread, to start the new Day, which will be precisely a month after this Day. That will be May 22, Eorling time.

I apologize for how long this Day has dragged on. Jenny will get a chance to have Marenil respond to Eodwine, and her post can be inserted in the appropriate place. Onward!

[Kath]

lmp, sorry to be annoying but since you posted Lommy's post, would you mind changing that line of Frodides'? Just from:

“The children are always welcome in the kitchen”, Frodides said and smiled, “Strange that they haven’t come yet for a snack, those little darlings, too busy in their plays for even eating.”

To:

"Strange that they haven't yet come looking for food, they must be so caught up in their games they've clear forgotten about eating."

[littlemanpoet]

Done.

[Kath]

Thanks :)

[littlemanpoet]

Lovely post, Fea. It looks like you have a time problem; the last few lines seem to indicate the time as around noon, whereas the previous conversation is in the middle of the night.....

EDIT: my mistake; looks like a flashback.... I think.

[Folwren]

That's so funny! I did the same thing, Elempi. It totally threw me off until I went back and read the first two paragraphs, which for some reason I had skipped without notice, and then it was quite clear.

It was an excellent post, Fea.

-- Folwren

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Lemme take a look and see what I can do to clarify.

[Taralphiel]

Hullo all :)

Foley and I have been exchanging PM's planning out Lys' full recovery. We have a joint post for his first 'day out', but it seems he needs a bit more work pre time jump for it to be a smooth transition.

LMP & Pio: Would it be possible to have a small post slotted in earlier, in order to have that consistency? Foley and I have looked through and picked a spot that would be best. The post is below.

We were thinking between post numbers 408 and 409. Or rather, at the end of 408? It's early enough, and it doesn't break conversation between any two characters. Does this work?

If anyone at all has a problem with this, please give suggestions for where it could be better placed. I don't want to cause problems for anyone's stories.

Thanks for your help.

- Tara

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POST PLACED (#408) --PIO

Lys looked up worriedly. The morning had wrung out sunshine through the cold for some hours, and Lys had woken startled. He had expected to be woken the night before! Had Thornden forgotten to collect him?

Lys tried to sit up, holding at his waist gingerly. He looked to the corner of the room, and saw Thornden slumped in the chair by the door. He had likely snuck in later that night, and Lys did not wish to wake him. He sat and watched him carefully, smiling at his steady breathing and calm expression. Lys saw him most often with creases of worry lining his brow, and Lys felt guilt for being the cause of those lines.

Thornden stirred and lifted his head. His eyes opened and his chest expanded as he drew a deep breath of air.

“Oh, Lys! You are awake,” he said, noticing the boy at once.

“Yes,” Lys said softly. “Thornden, why didn’t you wake me? We did not go to eat dinner in the Hall, like you promised.”

Thornden had forgotten, until that morning when he woke up, and he felt sorry for it. Lys saw it immediately as the familiar wrinkles of worry returned. Lys quickly muttered a few apologies, until Thornden got up and walked to his bedside. He gently laid his hand on the boy’s shoulder.

“Now, now, Lys! Do not be sorry. I’m the one who should ask pardon. The court of yesterday turned bitter-sweet. Our Lady Linduial is leaving this morning for home, and there were some changes,” he paused slightly. “I am not to be appointed to Lord Eodwine’s side in the rank you supposed. I did not wish to disappoint you...”

Lys shook his head thoroughly at Thornden’s words. “I could not be! You have taken care of me all this time. I am no blood to you, nor have I any thing or promise to serve you benefit for being so kind. You have given freely, and nothing you could do would make me feel disappointment. You are all at the once my family, and, mayhap, my Father…”

Lys stopped after this, and lowered his head. In all of the healing his body was yet to endure, Lys knew he could feel safe in the care of Thornden. And with no family in his free memory, Thornden was all he had.

[littlemanpoet]

That looks fine to me, Tara & Foley.

Pio, please place the narrative text in Tara's post (just above this one) AS the end of post #408. Thanks!

POST PLACED FOR TARA ~*~ PIO

[littlemanpoet]

I've edited my last post to open it things up for anyone who wants to post. Feanor no longer needs to respond with a post, I've put words in Saeryn's mouth; Fea can punish me later. :p

[Taralphiel]

Thanks very much, Elempi and Pio!

In the next couple of days, the second post will go up.

- Tara

[Thinlómien]

Thanks Kath and LMP.

I see I have a post to write and I will do it either today or tomorrow.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Fea can punish me later. :p
*snicker*

Poor Saeryn. I'll not be punishing you, dear, but you can bet that Saeryn will be rather tormented at the moment.

Lin gone. Degas gone. Those blasted parents and sister dead. Eodwine first telling them that he needs to find out about his dead wife and then, once Degas is gone, calling her 'love'. If she weren't bonded in her role as Lady, she'd run away.

What, oh what, will she do? Alas for poor Saeri and the struggles of young love.

Wonder what'll happen when Farahil gets back. *snerk*

Oh, and if Thornden's sister finds out that she's not taken... ooh, that could be fun.

[Folwren]

Oh, and if Thornden's sister finds out that she's not taken... ooh, that could be fun.

Oh! You're right. It COULD be fun! And it probably will be. :D

-- Foley

[Folwren]

My dear carpenters!! (That is, Celuien and Nogrod.) How far along do you two suppose the kitchen is at this point? And in what state of repair (or disrepair) is the rest of the building in? Is the kitchen only thing that has been changed in the floor plan? We removed it from the main building by ten paces or so? Attached by a wide corridor or hall, correct? And the said corridor opens into the great Hall, I would assume. Am I right?

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Form, Kara's a little bored and looking for a chat. Would Náin like to oblige?

[Nogrod]

My dear carpenters!! (That is, Celuien and Nogrod.) How far along do you two suppose the kitchen is at this point? And in what state of repair (or disrepair) is the rest of the building in?
Hard to say... :)

After we jumped in time, I wrote that the oven was ready but the fireplace still needed some work. I also wrote that the timber had arrived and that Stigend had started working on it. So basically I think everything is still unfinished (no new walls at least has been hoisted yet - if not the firewall behind and around the oven which possibly is already made?).

Is the kitchen only thing that has been changed in the floor plan? We removed it from the main building by ten paces or so? Attached by a wide corridor or hall, correct? And the said corridor opens into the great Hall, I would assume. Am I right?
If the kitchen is removed (as I understood it will be), it will need new walls to all its sides. Surely none has been made yet as Stigend is only preparing the timber now. The corridor-stuff sounds familiar from the planning session, but what was the final verdict on it, I'm not sure...

[Formendacil]

Form, Kara's a little bored and looking for a chat. Would Náin like to oblige?

With a good will. Well, a good will from me... and possibly less so from Náin, though his ill mood should blow over soon enough.

Write away. I have no plans at all.

[Folwren]

Greetings everyone!

Tomorrow morning very early we are starting out on a very long trip. When we arrive at our destination, after a two day drive, I am not sure how immediately I'll be getting access, and if I do get access, just how much I'll get. I may or may not have time to write.

Celuien, your character and mine are tied up in a conversation at the moment. If you do not hear from me by Monday morning, you can finish up the conversation as you see fit and have Garmund pass.

I hope that sometime into vacation I'll have some more time at the computer and be able to write about Medreth's coming to the hall.

We'll see what happens, I guess. . .

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'm going camping this weekend, so no computer access until Sunday evening. Therefore no posts from me until then.

[Celuien]

Celuien, your character and mine are tied up in a conversation at the moment. If you do not hear from me by Monday morning, you can finish up the conversation as you see fit and have Garmund pass.
So noted. :)

[Kath]

Ok Form, I've written. Lets see if Náin is agreeable to Kara's idea.

[Formendacil]

Ok Form, I've written. Lets see if Náin is agreeable to Kara's idea.

I rather think he will be- the exploration companion end of things, anyway. At 58ish, I rather think he's beyond learning to cook decently... but we'll see.

No post now, but soon enough...

[Thinlómien]

Sorry for being so slow, but I'll write a post tomorrow. :)

[Thinlómien]

I'm terribly sorry Fea, but unfortunately I can't write the post today... Bad timing and maternal authorities prevent it...

I promise to do the post tomorrow, however. Hopefully you don't miss Saeri too much... :( :)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

No worries. I've just spent an unexpected weekend on top of a mountain in Vermont. If I'm the sort of lass to disappear, how can I blame anyone else for it? :)

On a nice note, I'm back. For an extended period.

[littlemanpoet]

Ooh oooh ooh! The Cat (Eodwine) is away and immediately the Mouse (Falco) doth begin to play.... :D

Jus' a wee bit of a prob..... Falco may have an idea what fun thing to do, but Elempi's having trouble reading his mind, if you catch my drift... Any ideas? The only thing I can think of is to go pony or horseback riding, the three of them, with Garstan's blessing of course, right to the outskirts of Edoras even, maybe, or something.....some destination there that Falco wants to show Garmund because he knows the boy would really love it. If you have a better idea just say so.

[Celuien]

Jus' a wee bit of a prob..... Falco may have an idea what fun thing to do, but Elempi's having trouble reading his mind, if you catch my drift... Any ideas? The only thing I can think of is to go pony or horseback riding, the three of them, with Garstan's blessing of course, right to the outskirts of Edoras even, maybe, or something.....some destination there that Falco wants to show Garmund because he knows the boy would really love it. If you have a better idea just say so.
That sounds good. If I come up with something else later (as in after work and line dancing class tonight), I'll post it here.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

If you adventurers care to recruit Saeryn's aid, I'm sure she can find all manner of things to help in the adventure. Including sweets for later.

[Celuien]

If you adventurers care to recruit Saeryn's aid, I'm sure she can find all manner of things to help in the adventure. Including sweets for later.
Ooh! Sweets! :D

[JennyHallu]

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Absolutely no idea what to do with my characters right now, and haven't felt like creating filler material. Have any of Marenil's suggestions been carried out despite his lack of employment, LMP?

[littlemanpoet]

Pens have been built and animals bought in to populate the front space between Hall and road. A house for the Ladies is in the plans after the kitchen is completed. Fees from the markets is being looked into all over again this very Day by Eodwine. That would be about a month's worthy, I think.

[Firefoot]

So does that mean that some kind of small paddock for the horses would already have been built as well? If so, I'm going to have to go back and edit my last post.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

So does that mean that some kind of small paddock for the horses would already have been built as well? If so, I'm going to have to go back and edit my last post.
Not necessarily. Though they'd have room to move around and all, chance has it that they'd still not be exercised nearly as much as should be.

Then again, most of our folks, or at least a lot of them, are Rohirric. I can't see them neglecting their animals. So even if we don't write that our characters are cosseting their babies, they still probably would be... right? :confused:

My post seems to have no point.

[Firefoot]

Quite possibly?

The other thing that I had started wondering about was how much it was Leof's responsibility to exercise the horses - part of it might depend on whose they are (I know in the AiE, someone wrote there to be 15 - I can count Eodwine's, Leof's, Garwine's, Linduial's, Marenil's, and Manawyth's - that leaves 9 - belonging to the Eorl? belonging to people having them boarded? I would think that if they belonged to people having them boarded, they wouldn't be kept in the city unless they were used at least fairly often...), but as I initially understood it, an ostler would be responsible for feed, grooming, stable upkeep, etc. Is exercise really one of those duties as well?

[littlemanpoet]

I don't know if exercise is part of the ostler's job or not. I fear I don't have time to research it right now either. Could you check that out, Firefoot?

No paddock yet. So keep that going all you like, Ff.

[Firefoot]

I looked around the other day, but couldn't really find anything about an ostler's duties except a generic caring for horses. Maybe I'll have another look tomorrow sometime.

[Kath]

Form I'm going to the Peak District for a week as you'll know from ATM. I may have net access but I don't know. If not then I don't mind if you have Kara answer you if you need to get out of the kitchen or if you wait til I return.

[littlemanpoet]

Form I'm going to the Peak District for a weekLucky.

No fair.

I was there for all of about six hours and wished for about 162 more. Enjoy!

[Formendacil]

Form I'm going to the Peak District for a week as you'll know from ATM. I may have net access but I don't know. If not then I don't mind if you have Kara answer you if you need to get out of the kitchen or if you wait til I return.

Actually, it's fine with me if we leave things where they are, for now. I'm starting college next week, and I don't predict much Internet access (if any) this upcoming first week. So a brief hiatus works for me. Assuming that the same day is still open, we can take it up in a week or so- or if we've moved on to a different day/week/month, then we can follow up with a later episode.

[littlemanpoet]

I've posted up for Falco.

That means both Folwren and Celuien need to respond for their characters, or come to an agreement as to what one will have the other put in her character's mouth.

I don't think there are any ponies that anyone has written about, but there's no way Falco would have come all the way down from the Shire on foot while Eodwine road Flíthaf, so Falco obviously has a pony, who will be named, ...... oh ...... , "Nibble". :D See, Nibble has a weakness for human clothing and bits of flesh that stick out, like ears..... ask Léof, he knows. :p

So anyway, Thornden can go have Leof get the mounts ready while Garmund leads Falco to his dad. Sound good?

[Nogrod]

I managed to write a post yesterday by hand in the neighbouring pub (good way to relax after a hard day at work) but haven't had time to write it down here yet - and tomorrow looks dangerously busy too. So I don't have anything against continuing this slow developement for a few more days still.

But just to inform you about the post I'm putting in soon enough, hopefully.

It happens about simultaneosly with this "scheming" on behalf of Garmund. Stigend will notice that Garmund is away and goes to have a talk with Leothern and Cnebba who still play the game. He understands something of the problem and tells them to go and make an apology to Garmund. He then promises that if everything will be settled, he can arrange an adventure to all the kids in the evening (not so great than Falco had in mind, surely). To himself he promises to raise the issue with Garstan during the next break they will have that day, maybe ask for him to accompany them to their adventure.

So there will be nicely crossing plans (as people do not know the intentions of others) and we can see what the outcome will be...

[littlemanpoet]

This may seem like the right thing for Stigend to do, Nogrod, but I'd like to suggest something. Before I do, let me make clear that I'm NOT telling you not to do what you've planned.

What I'd like to suggest is that CONFLICT is always good for a story. Makes it more interesting, raising the "stakes" higher. By rectifying this little child scuffle here and now before it becomes something more .... er ..... interesting, you may be short-circuiting story writing possibilities. Though no fun in real life, conflict in stories is GOOD.

Seeing as Celuien started this general subplot, I'm interested to hear her thoughts on the matter.

[Celuien]

Seeing as Celuien started this general subplot, I'm interested to hear her thoughts on the matter.
Well, this subplot was Noggie's idea. The first post just fell to me. :)

I'd really like to continue having some friction between the children, if that's okay with Nogrod and Lommy. It does make things more interesting.

That said, I thought of an angle where the post could actually raise the tensions between Cnebba and Garmund.

I remember hating being forced to apologize for something, especially if I didn't feel like I really did anything terribly wrong. Garmund's competition for his sister's attention is understandable, but I've been making him overreact a little bit. I don't know all the details of Cnebba and Lèoðern's behavior, but if it has all been similar to the morning, where the worst thing that happened was that they beat Garmund at marbles, Garmund is definitely overreacting. Being 9, I doubt he has the maturity to realize it. As for Lèoðern, she doesn't understand rivalries yet. She would be puzzled, apologize wholeheartedly if asked, then probably laugh and start off on her usual silliness.

If Cnebba is annoyed by apologizing for something he hasn't really been at fault for (which I don't know - would he be upset?), it could have the effect of driving the rivalry under the surface and intensifying the problem. I know Garmund won't let go quite so easily, and the slightest provocation after a done-to-please-dad apology from Cnebba would really set Garmund off. If Cnebba were to be completely sincere about apologizing, which would placate Garmund, I'd rather that the parents remain in the dark for now and let the problem simmer until things really come to a head between the boys.

What do you think, Nogrod?

[Nogrod]

Well, this subplot was Noggie's idea. The first post just fell to me. :)I wouldn't call it a subplot, but however... :)

I'd really like to continue having some friction between the children, if that's okay with Nogrod and Lommy. It does make things more interesting.I agree with you and lmp here. And I thought I was not giving any "solutions". Basically my post would just confuse the matters - and depending on the timing, making the things even worse...

Just think: Leothern and Cnebba realising that they have done something wrong (even very superficially) and trying to apologise just to see that Garmud is having this trek of his to the ruins with Falco & others!

- How jealous would they be, and what would they plot against him then!
- How Stigend and Garstan would have hard times to trying to solve the matters?
- And surely Stigend's idea of the adventure of the evening is born dead (I have written it with that in mind) as Garmund has a lot more interesting adventure to have! So it also makes Stigend frustrated: he tries to solve the problem of the kids but others intervene and act quicker on behalf of one of the kids, not looking to the best interest of them all - oh, that moral resentment Stigend would feel towards Falco and Thornden for meddling with the affair without better knowledge of the situation (and his own shame of being late with all of this as the "strangers" got to act first).

I mean anything. Lots of tensions...

So should we write this in away where Stigend is a bit late with his proposal of peace-making and Garmund is already getting off / has already gone with Falco & others? That could make Leothern and Cnebba confused and angry & and make it harder for Stigend (Modtryth) and Garstan to solve (after Garstan has given Garmud a leave to go with the company without knowing that Stigend has talked to Leothern and Cnebba)?

What do you think? I still think my post fits this storyline, but do you accept it?

[Celuien]

I like it. Just so long as everyone isn't back to being nice and normal. :D

And Lèoðern won't do anything mean. She's mischievous and doesn't think before acting, but not delibrately cruel. So while she would be willing to play a joke on her brother to get even, she wouldn't do anything sneaky. ;)

[Kath]

I'm back. Form I'll get a reply up but don't worry about a speedy answer on your part, I've a lot of things to catch up with!

I was there for all of about six hours and wished for about 162 more. Enjoy!
Agreed lmp. It's the most fun I've had for a long time, bar the rain!

[Nogrod]

I finally got time to wrap my post up. Just a few questions.

lmp: Your last post states that Stigend is with as the party is taking the leave. It probably won't be okay. My post should happen about simultaneously with that. My post sends the kids to search for Garmund and surely they would have to be a bit late not to meet him but just to hear that he has gone to his "adventure". So should we delete Stigend from your post? All this could have happened without Stigend knowing as he is now working alone at the farther corner of the Alder court trimming the timber as Garstan is near the Hall making the last brickworks. (Though they would surely still share the pauses to socialise?)

Celuien: Hopefully I have handled Leothern well enough. If not, please inform me about it. But what is this?I like it. Just so long as everyone isn't back to being nice and normal.Yay! You are so mean! :D

[Celuien]

Hopefully I have handled Leothern well enough.
Looks great. :)

You are so mean!
Moi? Never. :p :D

[Folwren]

I'm back and I'd like to apologize to everyone. After planning on introducing Thornden's sister, I run off on vacation and end up not having any computer. I am so sorry, but it was quite unexpected.

If you will, please tell me where exactly in the day time it is so that I don't have to read ALL the posts and will catch up as quickly as possible.

EDIT: Oh, Elmpi, how wonderful! A ride out to some ruins! That is excitingly fun. :D

However, in doing so, you have landed Thornden into quite a pickle with his sister. This shall be humorous, her arriving while he's gone. I highly doubt the boys will spend less than an hour or two roaming the ruins. What fun! Ruins! Is it a castle, or an old, abandoned stone house? How far from Edoras do you suppose it should be? What sort if landscape is it in?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

It's mid-morning.

My thought was that it's perhaps a mile or so outside of Edoras, and happens to be an old, old Numenorean ruin right back against the mountain, hidden in a copse of trees (if a copse is big enough). To Numenoreans it would have been quite humble, and to an Eorlinga like Thornden rather impressive but very, very ruined and very, very ancient. To a Hobbit, BIG! To a boy, the stuff of dreams, no doubt! :)

If you've ever been to England, it's on a para with the old, old standing stones that are scattered throughout the island, except it's not standing stones, just 'that old', and the mouldering remains of an old way-station. Yeah. That's it. .... thus it would be no great surprise that a similar "way station" such as Edoras would be begun within a few miles of an ancient one. The lay of the land makes it suitable and all that. At least it's plausible, eh?

[Folwren]

Okay, sounds good.

I have never been to England, but I have seen many pictures and read books about old castles and ruins and whatnot. Besides that, America has it's old, ruined places. :)

I have two things in my head, I wonder if you could tell me which you think is more likely -

One is of seeing the old walls rising up some fifteen - twenty feet into the air, the empty windows gaping above the doorless doorway. Weeds and trees growing about and in the walls. The roof and much of the wall crumbled away, but still an obvious, standing structure, somewhat obscured by the greenery about it.

Or, there would be the even older ruins. Much more wild plantlife around, the wall only standing a foot or two above the ground and the place littered with fallen stones. In some places, some of the rooms still standing, but most of it level.

Or is it somewhere in between?

You said Numenorean, so it is very old?

Don't expect a post from me any earlier than tomorrow evening, maybe not even until Sunday. Go on then, if you so wish, and don't wait up for me!!

-- Folwren

[Thinlómien]

If Cnebba is annoyed by apologizing for something he hasn't really been at fault for (which I don't know - would he be upset?), it could have the effect of driving the rivalry under the surface and intensifying the problem. I know Garmund won't let go quite so easily, and the slightest provocation after a done-to-please-dad apology from Cnebba would really set Garmund off. If Cnebba were to be completely sincere about apologizing, which would placate Garmund, I'd rather that the parents remain in the dark for now and let the problem simmer until things really come to a head between the boys.I think that is a good idea. When I get my internet access working properly, I promise to add my ideas to the children quarrel... Though you two seem to do well in it! :D Continue the same way, and if I have time and a working net access I'd gladly write some more problems for the children (and the parents)... *evil grin*

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'll daydream at work [as per norm] and once I decide if Saeryn has any more pressing duties, I'll shoot in for a quick post. It might not be until tonight/tomorrow. Monday at the latest. I hate when other people structure my time for me. :mad: ;)

[Kath]

Well I've finally got that reply up Form. No worries about a quick reply, I've two other RPGs to catch up on yet!

[littlemanpoet]

I have two things in my head, I wonder if you could tell me which you think is more likely -

One is of seeing the old walls rising up some fifteen - twenty feet into the air, the empty windows gaping above the doorless doorway. Weeds and trees growing about and in the walls. The roof and much of the wall crumbled away, but still an obvious, standing structure, somewhat obscured by the greenery about it.

Or, there would be the even older ruins. Much more wild plantlife around, the wall only standing a foot or two above the ground and the place littered with fallen stones. In some places, some of the rooms still standing, but most of it level.

Or is it somewhere in between?

You said Numenorean, so it is very old?

It's more like the second. My thinking is that it's thousands of years old, but very well made. So the thousands of years would have worked at it, but since it was well made, what's left would show signs of good craftsmanship. So go with your second "even older ruins".

[littlemanpoet]

Pardon my double post, but Foley, since you asked that question, I'm concluding that you are planning a post with such a description in it. If that is the case, I'll wait for you to post before I do.

[Undómë]

I'd like to bring Wistan and family in to the market. My last post was Post #281 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=464440#post464440).

Can someone approximate for me how much time has passed since Thornden came to collect taxes? And what part of the year is it now?

Thanks!

~ U

[Taralphiel]

I'm finally able to get Lys outside!

I'm terribly sorry if I've gotten any description of the Hall wrong. I know it's been changed a little, so I was trying to go with what I could remember from the last map.

Also, if anyone wishes to say hello to Lys, you're more than welcome. I've been looking forward to him meeting people for a long time.

- Tara :)

[Folwren]

Undome: I believe that an approximation of time is about a month and three weeks, maybe two months. It is the 22nd of May, and I believe Thornden went on his rounds somewhere towards the end of March. . .? I don't know where I could find that date to verify, but it's been about two months.

Elempi: I did indeed do a post. I didn't really explain the ruins, though, except that they weren't really visible on account of the plant life and whatnot.

-- Folwren

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Lommy, I'm having trouble posting right now. I can't seem to get the words to come together in any way that I don't look at with a self-disdaining sneer.

Basically, Saeryn has no duties right now that are totally pressing.

I'm just being overly complicated with it. I'll try again tomorrow.

[littlemanpoet]

Minor quibble, Firefoot, Eodwine currently has no steward. Thornden stepped down from the position and Marenil was removed. Eodwine is currently serving as his own steward until he can find a suitable person for the office. Thornden is the almbudsman.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Right... so...

I posted something so that Lommy can move on with Modtryth and it gives Thornden's sister a nice intro to the conveniently sort-of-unattached-if-we-ignore-that-Eodwine-thing Saeryn. :rolleyes: ;) :cool:

I don't particularly like it, but I can always edit it into something that I do like later. For now, it'll do.

[Firefoot]

Oh... right...

[JennyHallu]

Working up a post about the post...bwahahahahaha...I amuse myself so easily it's sad.

edit: delay in delivery mostly due to lunchtime for author. I'll get back to this, I promise.

[Celuien]

I'm working on something for Garmund in the ruins. Just seem to be hitting a block about what's there...

[Folwren]

I'm so sorry, Fea. Poor Saeryn must be just about read to fly into a rage, or something, but Medreth isn't asking it to be mean. She has no thoughts of scandal in her head. Maybe Saeryn'll realize that. :)

-- Folwren

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Question.

How would rooming arrangements work for visitors of the household? Would each get his/her own room out of courtesy? Would Thornden's brother room with him and his sister get her own room? Would she be bedded down with another? Would the two share a room? Would they be segregated into common sleeping areas?

I meant to write a quick paragraph-or-two post wherein Saer brought Medreth to [a] room, assured her that her belongings would find their way up, and then sort of trailed off into something vague after which Folwren could post whatever. But I realized that while Saeryn might know the answer to this, I certainly don't.

[Folwren]

Medreth isn't staying over night. She's got a two/three/four month old (I don't remember how much time has passed since the beginning of this thread) baby back at home with Nurse. She's riding back tonight.

It would be fun, though, if she did stay a few days, wouldn't it? I'm afraid, though, that if she does, I'd have to re-write it where she can be transported with a baby, and I don't think she'd do that on horseback.

Any suggestions?

And if I do end up changing it, that means a lot of editing all around. . .that is, for me and Fea.

Or maybe Javan could stay!! Is there some empty place around for him to fill? that would be fun! He could stay in Thornden's room, or Lys' maybe, Tara? This is just a random idea just hatched, so you no one really has to be as enthusiastic about it as I seem to be.

-- Folwren

[JennyHallu]

He might also stay in the Main Hall with Tristan

[littlemanpoet]

Javan would be assigned to the main hall.

Celuien? Do you want to post for Garmund next? Or do you want me to post for Falco and/or the man in the ruins?

[Celuien]

Well, if I posted, it would just be to agree with Thornden about why the group came and to give Garmund's name. I almost feel like it would decrease the suspense to write that before the stranger replies, so maybe introductions can come afterwards...

What do you think?

[littlemanpoet]

Hmmm.... the stranger hasn't been asked any question, so he won't reply per sé. But he certainly will do something if no one else does. Shall I proceed? (not tonight though)

[Celuien]

But he certainly will do something if no one else does. Shall I proceed? (not tonight though)
That sounds interesting. Please do. :)

[littlemanpoet]

That sounds interesting. Please do. :)
Okay. Ah heck, I shouldn't tonight but I will. :rolleyes:

Just one edit I need, and will take for granted that it will happen so I can post tonight: Foley, the man will not challenge Thornden with such words. You'll see why. So if you could please just delete your last two of your paragraphs, it'd work best. I'll just write as if you will.

[Folwren]

Alright, will do. I didn't exactly know what sort of character he was. I half figured he'd not like the sight of Thornden.

EDIT: Done. Later today, after gardening and taking a practice ACT, I may edit it again to give it a better, more rounded ending and then put up another post for Thornden. . .

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

THat sounds like a good idea, Foley. Thanks!

[Thinlómien]

I have written Moddie and the children to come to Garstan looking for Garmund. Hopefully that's okay with you Cel. :)

If we manage well, we might even later get to the adults' serious discussion about the children that Stigend planned...

[littlemanpoet]

First, a few weeks back I read an article about a "separation surgery" for Siamese twins, and it got me to thinking about odd stories of two headed men from medieval times. And that got me to thinking things out a bit more. So you see what I've been leading up to with the ruins.

Second, I've been thinking a lot about feudal versus non-feudal medieval economies/societies. Anglo-Saxon England (before 1066) was not feudal. After 1066, it was VERY feudal, thanks to the blasted Normans. So in my post in which Eomer interviewed Eodwine, I recorded that Eomer is basically experimenting with feudalism in the Middle Emnet, which is more or less an import from Gondor. The rest of Rohan is therefore NOT feudal.

Here's an article that I haven't finished reading but it may prove insightful about that kind of thing: Anglo-Saxon England. Settlement - rural and town life (http://www.le.ac.uk/elh/grj1/asl.html). This might help us keep track of what's what a little better.

[Folwren]

First, a few weeks back I read an article about a "separation surgery" for Siamese twins, and it got me to thinking about odd stories of two headed men from medieval times. And that got me to thinking things out a bit more. So you see what I've been leading up to with the ruins.

Oh, that's strange. That's really strange. Not the Siamese twins, but this character in the story.

And I left off so soon in my last post so that Garmund could have a chance to protest or something.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Elempi, what's happening with Falco and the interesting pair of twins at this moment? How far away are they from the wall?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi, what's happening with Falco and the interesting pair of twins at this moment? How far away are they from the wall?

-- Folwren
There, I've set you up for your next post.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

It's funny... I'd nearly forgotten that we're writing mythology.

[Taralphiel]

Sorry, I jut picked this up!

Or maybe Javan could stay!! Is there some empty place around for him to fill? that would be fun! He could stay in Thornden's room, or Lys' maybe, Tara? This is just a random idea just hatched, so you no one really has to be as enthusiastic about it as I seem to be.

Yes! Definitely! Lys is lonely in the garden and all by himself, so if Medreth or Javan or anyone approaches him he'll be most pleased. Even more so if he has someone to stay with.

Hint hint ;)

- Tara :)

[Folwren]

Tara, I do eventually intend to have one of my characters address Lys, yes. But I don't know about Javan staying yet. We'd have to work that out throughout this Day.

Firefoot, I hope I did okay with Leof. If you want anything changed, you can tell me and I can edit it when I get back.

I am going to be leaving this afternoon sometime and may not be back to post again until tomorrow afternoon.

-- Folwren

[Thinlómien]

I'll try to write my next post tomorrow.

[Laiudanama]

My first post in a while is up ('A Nasty Shock for Trystan' - I sound like a chapter heading in an Enid Blyton book...) - sorry I've taken so long, it's been a somewhat busy Summer :) Hope this fits in with everyones plans...

[littlemanpoet]

Just for the sake of clarity, what Celuien and I have been shooting for has been for Garmund and Falco to hit it off best with Lefun & Ritun (really sad names, I admit, but my imaginative powers are apparently faulty in that respect right now :rolleyes: ) . Thornden has consistently made this somewhat hard to bring about, which has actually been fun, so don't you dare apologize, Foley! :D Now with the added presence of Trystan, this could really get interesting with two (three actually) characters mutually paranoid of each other.

Falco has a mind to tell Thornden "he went thataway!" - but that does not answer Thornden's question. Foley, please feel free to write a post for Thornden in which Falco agrees to go back with him to Garmund, with whom they find Trystan. Celuein, will you have Garmund supply a description for Trystan? If so, could you have Falco and Thornden walk in on that? Ain't this interlinking fun? :p

Okay, L&R are/is big but not that big. They're big from the hips down in order to support all that extra weight properly, but from the hips up, they're actually a little smaller than a normal human like Thornden, because of the deformity itself. So let's just say that L&R come in at a grand total of 5 feet, 4 inches high, but thicker as a dwarf in the legs. Any questions?

[Celuien]

Celuein, will you have Garmund supply a description for Trystan? If so, could you have Falco and Thornden walk in on that? Ain't this interlinking fun? :p
It is fun. :D Post will come tomorrow evening. I had a long daytrip today, which has left me somewhat tired and uncreative at the moment.

[Folwren]

Just for the sake of clarity, what Celuien and I have been shooting for has been for Garmund and Falco to hit it off best with Lefun & Ritun (really sad names, I admit, but my imaginative powers are apparently faulty in that respect right now :rolleyes: ) . Thornden has consistently made this somewhat hard to bring about, which has actually been fun, so don't you dare apologize, Foley! :D

How did you know I was going to apologize? I was in the act of mouthing the words (very honestly, too) 'I'm sorry!' when you told me not to, so I didn't finish.

And I thought the Lefun and Ritun were excellent names. Made me laugh, any how.

Falco has a mind to tell Thornden "he went thataway!" - but that does not answer Thornden's question. Foley, please feel free to write a post for Thornden in which Falco agrees to go back with him to Garmund, with whom they find Trystan. Celuein, will you have Garmund supply a description for Trystan? If so, could you have Falco and Thornden walk in on that? Ain't this interlinking fun? :p

So, you are not going to be writing a post and would just like me to? That should be fine, but I probably won't get around to it until tomorrow. Hope you don't mind.

Okay, L&R are/is big but not that big. They're big from the hips down in order to suppose all that extra weight properly, but from the hips up, they're actually a little smaller than a normal human like Thornden, because of the disformity itself. So let's just say that L&R come in at a grand total of 5 feet, 4 inches high, but thicker as a dwarf in the legs. Any questions?

Yes. Do I need to edit the post in which Thornden first spotted R&L? At that time, I was still under the impression that he was some normal, huge fugitive of some sort.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

How did you know I was going to apologize? I was in the act of mouthing the words (very honestly, too) 'I'm sorry!' when you told me not to, so I didn't finish.Because you invariably do. :)

And I thought the Lefun and Ritun were excellent names. Made me laugh, any how. Thanks. Well, for comical virtue, okay.

So, you are not going to be writing a post and would just like me to? That should be fine, but I probably won't get around to it until tomorrow. Hope you don't mind.If I get to the computer before you do, I'll go ahead; but not tonight.

Yes. Do I need to edit the post in which Thornden first spotted R&L? At that time, I was still under the impression that he was some normal, huge fugitive of some sort.No, you don't need to edit. With the big "sack" on his back, and the very large legs, he looked huge.

Good night!

[Laiudanama]

Celuein, will you have Garmund supply a description for Trystan? If so, could you have Falco and Thornden walk in on that? Ain't this interlinking fun? Oh yeah, fun times - they walk in to see the oh-so-highly-regarded Trystan apparently holding a knife at Garmund...*evil smiley*

Just to clarify: L&R are not the man Trystan thinks they are (hmm, grammar-wrenching...), he's paranoid about another individual from his recent past catching him up. But it could allow a little revelation, which is always fun :)

[littlemanpoet]

It's funny... I'd nearly forgotten that we're writing mythology.
Maybe we are, but human twins that share a pair of legs isn't mythology. Check this (http://multiples.about.com/cs/conjoinedprofiles/p/aactherrin.htm) out.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Maybe we are, but human twins that share a pair of legs isn't mythology. Check this (http://multiples.about.com/cs/conjoinedprofiles/p/aactherrin.htm) out.
I'm aware. But the sudden image of a two headed man acted as a catalyst for me. It was nice.

[Folwren]

So...does Trystan actually have the knife in his hand?

Elempi, did you have any particular reason for Thornden to stop all abruptly other than surprise at seeing him?

May...hm...never mind, won't be getting a post tonight. Tomorrow. Hope you can manage without me 'till then.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

There. Post placed and Falco and Thornden are back with the two younger chaps.

For everyone's information and to give fair warning, I don't think that Thornden is in a very good mood right now and might explode if anyone does anything bad. (Falco really shouldn't have said what he did if he wanted to make Thornden happy. . . .)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Flaco (trying to tell me something? ;) ) - er - Falco, that is... ;) (might want to edit your post, Foley) is not nearly as concerned about Thornden's feelings as he is Garmund's, nor as he is about finding all he can about Lefun & Ritun, not to mention keeping Thorden away from Lefun & Ritun. Thornden's a big boy and can handle himself in Falco's opinion. A blow up? That might actually be fun! :D

I have a very busy day and only a few minutes of break left, so I may not get to post until tomorrow. Carry on!

What I'm hoping for is that Trystan will try to look for the man Garmund has just described, to see for himself whether he's the right one or not. Then Falco will nicely ask Thornden to keep an eye on Trystan - he being the only one big enough to keep Trystan out of trouble - while Falco stays with Garmund. I think Garmund will be willing to live with such an arrangement. Then, once Trystan and Thornden go too far, Falco can take Garmund to Lefun & Ritun and make introductions, and have a short conversation (at this point L&R will be "one headed". ..... only to have to deal yet again by the sudden return of T & T. And then we can see what happens after that. Sound good?

[Celuien]

Garmund will be delighted to go with Falco. :)

[Folwren]

Flaco's not a bad word, is it? I'm so oblivious to bad words and such that I really wouldn't know one. . .but I will change it just in case. Is it only here in the discussion thread? Guess I can go check on the game thread, too. . .

Do whatever you see fit. I'll have Thornden follow Trystan and you can slip off. A blow up might be fun. I think what will be funny is a short tempered Thornden returning home to a friendly teasing and slightly annoying Medreth. . .I know very well what short tempered big brothers can be like. :p

-- Foley

[piosenniel]

'Flaco' means 'skinny' - a common hispanic nickname.

And here's a famous Flaco (http://www.flacojimenezmusic.com/biography.asp).

~*~ Pio, just passing thru . . . :)

[littlemanpoet]

"We do not know for sure that such a man is dangerous, Trystan," Falco interjected slowly, watching the other carefully.

I need you to change this, Lai, so it sounds more like Falco:

"I reckon this big people is no more dangerous than any other of you log-footed folk, Trystan," said Falco, watching the other carefully."

To have a ruffian of such dimensions on the loose near the Mead Hall, with women and children present - and valuable horses too, of course," he added, with another brief grin, which Falco this time returned:

I need this altered just a wee bit:

".... , to which Falco allowed a reluctant half smile:"

[Laiudanama]

Changes made :)

[littlemanpoet]

Great post, Celuien! :) You nailed Falco's speech pattern.

EDIT: I'm waiting for you, Garmund. ;)

[Celuien]

Great post, Celuien! You nailed Falco's speech pattern.

EDIT: I'm waiting for you, Garmund.
Thanks. :)

Just saw the edit this morning. Tonight! The past couple of days have been hectic. Residency stuff. I've been able to log in and read for the past couple of days while writing emails to make sure all of my letters of recommendation (and the like) have been turned in to the Dean's Office and looking up programs to send my application to, but not much else. :rolleyes: Sorry! I seem to be doing this a lot lately. It should be better soon.

EDIT: Okay. Post up. And a bit of Rohirric legend invented. :D

[littlemanpoet]

Very interesting how this is dove-tailing with real life. Last night I saw a news show on conjoined twins. One pair are adults still joined at the head, choosing to stay that way. They share 30% brain matter but have comletely different personalities. Pretty amazing. They can only see each other's face in a pair of mirrors aimed back to back. Lefun and Ritun are facing the same way. Makes for the kind of story I find easier to write. :rolleyes:

[Celuien]

Okay. I'll answer later. Something just came up here. I need to run.

EDIT: Things are under control for the time being, and will hopefully remain so. Post up.

[Folwren]

Very interesting how this is dove-tailing with real life. Last night I saw a news show on conjoined twins. One pair are adults still joined at the head, choosing to stay that way. They share 30% brain matter but have comletely different personalities. Pretty amazing. They can only see each other's face in a pair of mirrors aimed back to back. Lefun and Ritun are facing the same way. Makes for the kind of story I find easier to write. :rolleyes:

What! Joined at the head? How does that work? One head - two bodies? Craziness!! Have you ever imagined living connected to someone? It's very strange to think about. What if you didn't like your twin? I know my sister and I quarrel a lot, but at least we can walk to another room if one of us gets too fiesty for the other. Strange. That would take some careful thinking on God's part, I think, for personalities. :rolleyes:

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

What! Joined at the head? How does that work? One head - two bodies? Craziness!! Have you ever imagined living connected to someone? It's very strange to think about. What if you didn't like your twin? I know my sister and I quarrel a lot, but at least we can walk to another room if one of us gets too fiesty for the other. Strange. That would take some careful thinking on God's part, I think, for personalities. One of them walks and the other, whose legs failed to develop, sits on a cart. They're attached at the left front of their heads. Quite intelligent. The one who walks dates; the other brings a book and completely turns off what's happening around her. According to the report, they happen to be believers like you and me, Folwren. One's irresponsible and the other responsible. One messy, the other orderly. One and artist, the other not. Fascinating. They would have been "freaks" in a circus a century ago.
:mad: :(

[Firefoot]

That's amazing.

[Folwren]

Elempi and Celuien, would it be an inconvenience for you two if Thornden and Trystan were to retrace their steps and come back now? Finding Falco and Garmund gone?

-- Folwren

[Celuien]

It's fine with me, so long as Garmund has been convincing and doesn't need to keep trying to persuade the twins to come to the MH at this point. :D

[littlemanpoet]

That works for me. I won't be able to post probably until Friday :rolleyes: so if Celuien wants to handle matters, what I see happening is T & T rushing by back to the circular "room", Falco and Garmund and L&R hearing them go by, Falco shushing Garmund. Then Falco will tell L&R to stay right there, and F & G will go back to the circular place and "explain things" to Thornden.

After that, I'm kind of stuck. The deal is, Falco wants to have Garmund help him convince L&R to go to the Mead Hall, but somehow he has to get rid of Thornden and Trystan and keep Garmund with him. How to do this, I don't know. One alternative is for all four to go back to the Mead Hall and for Falco to spirit Garmund away "because Garmund really wanted to back for a second look".

So I don't know. What do you think? If you have other ideas you'd rather pursue, go ahead. Till Friday....

[Celuien]

I can try to write something tomorrow, but I have a reception to play at on Friday afternoon, so I'm a little busy until this weekend. :)

[Folwren]

Well, Friday won't be too late, actually, because it turns out that Laiudanama and I have more writing to cover.

So I don't know. What do you think? If you have other ideas you'd rather pursue, go ahead. Till Friday....

Well, you could come out with it honestly and tell Thornden the truth. He's rather understanding in most cases. Right now, he's just a little frightened that Falco and Garmund might be in danger of being hurt. If Falco could convince him that L&R weren't intending any harm, he'd probably not be too adverse to their talking to the two of them.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Well, you could come out with it honestly and tell Thornden the truth. He's rather understanding in most cases. Right now, he's just a little frightened that Falco and Garmund might be in danger of being hurt. If Falco could convince him that L&R weren't intending any harm, he'd probably not be too adverse to their talking to the two of them.If Thornden were actually Foley, I'd say absolutely. But Thornden is a 6 foot tall plus man, whom L&R apparently fear like a ghost. Falco doesn't want to bring in anyone who might make it so L&R turn tale and never show up again. (shrug)

[Folwren]

If Thornden were actually Foley, I'd say absolutely. But Thornden is a 6 foot tall plus man, whom L&R apparently fear like a ghost. Falco doesn't want to bring in anyone who might make it so L&R turn tale and never show up again. (shrug)

What I meant was you might tell Thornden that L&R is afraid of Thornden because of his height, and that they're not going to hurt Falco or Garmund (Thornden may be a bit skeptical about that claim, yes), and then, if Falco is convincing, Thornden might agree to sit and wait until Garmund and Falco have finished their talk, maybe convinced them to return to the Mead Hall.

Of course, if anyone knew that Medreth is at the Mead Hall and told Thornden, that might be a convenient way to get Thornden out of there pretty easily. Maybe. Just tossing out ideas.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

HOLD it, Elempi! Thornden and Trystan haven't moved yet, since Lai's last post! She has to write at least one more post until we return back. I'm sorry for the false alarm Wednesday. I thought we were going to be heading back immediately, but it turns out not.

Can you change the last paragraph in your last post?

Sorry!

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'll wait for you and Lai to get Thornden and Trystan past Falco and company before posting again. How does that work?

[littlemanpoet]

We seem to have hit a snag. Apparently, Foley & Lai are unable to lend their able pens to EMH right now.

Therefore, we shall proceed as befits the occasion: I will post another piece in the story down the road, and Foley & Lai may post their fill-ins on this thread, from which they can be placed by the trusty Pio where they best fit. Everybody got that?

Now to figure out what to have Falco do....

[Folwren]

lol, yes, the pause has gone on rather long. All of my characters are in conversation with other players' character.

I think you're idea is wonderful. Lai and I can write what we need when she's more available.

-- Folwren

[Laiudanama]

Sorry about the delay - much schoolwork with University application stuff at the moment :) But post made now.

[Folwren]

Lai! I've posted and it can be a finished post, but I can also get back on it and edit more into it if necessary. I wasn't sure if you wanted Trystan to tell his story now or later. You let me know and either write something for me to put into my post or tell me what to say and then I'll finish it myself. Whatever you like.

And, Tara, I think I'll wait for you to make a reply for Lys before writing another pots for Javan.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Great posts! Now, can we assume that Falco and Garmund follow Thornden and Trystan back into the circular chamber? so that Celuien or I can post? Or do you two need to post again yet? Lai, maybe you want to have Trystan answer Thornden first? At any rate, if you don't post in the next day, we'll fall back upon our "agreed upon method". Actually, I may not get a chance to post tomorrow. We'll see.

[Thinlómien]

Cel, Noggie,
It seems we're having an err... pause form our little storyline. I suggest that we do something about it. Do you, Cel, wish to be the next one to continue the discussion? (It is left in a place where it would be logical for Garstan to comment.) If you don't, I guess nobody minds if I will?
And Noggie, could you edit your latest post so that Moddie sends the children to eat too, since that was her original reason to find the children?

[Celuien]

Sorry, Lommy!

I'll post as soon as I can, but it may be a few days. I have quite a bit going on through Sunday. So if you have something before then, please don't wait for me. :)

[Folwren]

Great posts! Now, can we assume that Falco and Garmund follow Thornden and Trystan back into the circular chamber? so that Celuien or I can post? Or do you two need to post again yet? Lai, maybe you want to have Trystan answer Thornden first? At any rate, if you don't post in the next day, we'll fall back upon our "agreed upon method". Actually, I may not get a chance to post tomorrow. We'll see.

I think one more post is needed. However, that post can be edited into it, because once Lai decides whether Trystan is going to tell Thornden what his problem is or not, the two of them are going to return the circular chamber, as you put it. So, if he doesn't say anything, Lai can tell me and I can put a last edited touch to my post, and if he does decide to talk (that sounds horrible, but Thornden's not really doing anything torture like so I shouldn't feel guilty), then she can write it and I or Pio can put it at the end of my post.

Oh, nearly forgot. Tara, Javan's only 12 yet, so he's not as old as Lys and he might not be as tall yet, either.

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

How old is Lys, exactly?

[Celuien]

Okay, Lommy. Thanks for poking me. Garstan has suggested a compromise. :D

[Thinlómien]

Okay, Lommy. Thanks for poking me. Garstan has suggested a compromise. :D Great, Cel. And no need to apologise. :)

[JennyHallu]

Sometime in the next couple of days, I'm going to be PMing synopses of the letters from Lin to their recipients. I thought about writing the letters outright, but that's proven too much for me.

[Nogrod]

And Noggie, could you edit your latest post so that Moddie sends the children to eat too, since that was her original reason to find the children?If you read my post you will find out that it is said, that we should eat all of us, and there are mentionings about the children taking part in the discussion at the table. Wouldn't that be enough to kind of show the children were there too at the table, eating? :)

Celuien: A good and righteous solution, although not so much approved by Stigend... His plans were given a blow again. :D

So let's continue this one. As I was the last one to post into this discussion I've just been waiting for you two to go forwards with it. If Lommy could make something next, I'd think it fine. I or Celuien might take it on from there then?

[Celuien]

Celuien: A good and righteous solution, although not so much approved by Stigend... His plans were given a blow again.
Poor Stigend. :D

[Thinlómien]

So let's continue this one. As I was the last one to post into this discussion I've just been waiting for you two to go forwards with it. If Lommy could make something next, I'd think it fine. I or Celuien might take it on from there then?Okay. I'll do it this weekend, if I get you separated from the 'downs and my little sister from the sims... ;)

[Taralphiel]

Oh, nearly forgot. Tara, Javan's only 12 yet, so he's not as old as Lys and he might not be as tall yet, either.

-- Folwren

Ah! Please pardon the mistake! I'll work on editing out the bits I've said he was older and smooth it out. I assumed wrongly.


How old is Lys, exactly?


He's 14. Or thereabouts. Lys doesn't remember his birthday, obviously.

- Tara

[Folwren]

You're fine, Tara. Minor detail. . .hardly means anything. :)

I'll try to post for Javan sometime today.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I've a post brewing for Falco, but it'll have to wait until I'm done with work. I'm getting antsy for this story to get "Rilef" to the Mead Hall! :)

[Folwren]

I've a post brewing for Falco, but it'll have to wait until I'm done with work. I'm getting antsy for this story to get "Rilef" to the Mead Hall! :)

Are you thinking about the stir this is going to make at the Mead Hall? Can you imagine? :eek: That's going to be crazy!

I wonder what Eodwine's going to have to say about it. . .pity you have to write both parts, huh?

Poor Eodwine. Things always seem to happen at once. If you get Ritun and Leffun to go to the Mead Hall, he's going to have to figure out their stay and also Trsytan's problem.

Speaking of, Lai, I hope you understand, Thornden's only threatened to tell them because it is trully dangerous to have someone running around who pulls knives when he feels threatened.

Time for lunch.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Are you thinking about the stir this is going to make at the Mead Hall? Can you imagine? That's going to be crazy!I'm looking forward to it.

I wonder what Eodwine's going to have to say about it. . .pity you have to write both parts, huh?On the contrary. I get into Falco's head, then I get into Eodwine's head. Very different heads, to be sure. ;)

Poor Eodwine. Things always seem to happen at once. If you get Ritun and Leffun to go to the Mead Hall, he's going to have to figure out their stay and also Trsytan's problem.The better to write with, my dear, said the granny/wolf. :D

Speaking of, Lai, I hope you understand, Thornden's only threatened to tell them because it is trully dangerous to have someone running around who pulls knives when he feels threatened.This was the right thing for Thornden to say in the context. I'm sure Lai understands that. As for Trystan, probably not. ;)

Now to catch up on posts written lately.....

[Folwren]

:eek:

Elempi! Falco is so mean! lol! I can't believe what he's said to Thornden! Oh, how funny. 'Pent up dander' my foot. I think any man would be insulted at such treatment. Well, it's fun. I can't wait to write my next post for Thornden, but I'll have to until tomorrow, at least. . .

-- Folwren

[Taralphiel]

Thanks for the lead in, Foley :)

I'll work up a new post now.

- Tara

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi! Falco is so mean! lol! I can't believe what he's said to Thornden! Oh, how funny. 'Pent up dander' my foot. I think any man would be insulted at such treatment. Well, it's fun.I'm glad it's fun. It is for me. :D Falco's a fun, irreverent contrast to Eodwine. And of course Garreth and Harreld (when I get to write them :rolleyes: ) are great fun too.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I miss Harreld and Garreth... :(

[littlemanpoet]

I miss Harreld and Garreth... :(
Me too. :( They may show up with the advent of "Rilef", but if they do they will not acquit themselves well in regard to the twins. ;)

[Folwren]

Okay, I've posted. Thornden is rather mad now, I think. And I hope Falco is ready to leave, because Thornden certainly is and I don't know what he'll do if Falco refuses.

-- Folwren

[Laiudanama]

Speaking of, Lai, I hope you understand, Thornden's only threatened to tell them because it is trully dangerous to have someone running around who pulls knives when he feels threatened. Mais oui, bien sur - sorry, I meant to respond to that comment, but of course :)

I will make a post at some point over the next few days when I get a substantial minute to sit and think on it - excellent posts so far, really enjoying the interaction. However, A level is somewhat killing me at the moment - give me a bit to sort things out...

[littlemanpoet]

.... and Falco and the twins are getting tired of standing there waiting for either Garmund, Thornden, or Trystan to answer 'Rilef'. Should I have Falco reply, or does someone want to in the next day or so?

[Folwren]

.... and Falco and the twins are getting tired of standing there waiting for either Garmund, Thornden, or Trystan to answer 'Rilef'. Should I have Falco reply, or does someone want to in the next day or so?

I'm so sorry!! (And yes, I apologized again!) But I started reading a ship book yesterday and I couldn't put it down all day today, although I had next to nothing to do. I KNEW I had to write a post here, but I just didn't! I've got two posts due. Augh.

Well, now that I'm home, I have half a post written that I started yesterday or something and I'll finish that now. I am so sorry. Really, I am.

-- Folwren

[Celuien]

And a reply from Garmund will be forthcoming sometime tomorrow...

[littlemanpoet]

I'd like to move things along to sunset when Eodwine gets back. If anybody wants to post anything before then, please do so. I'll be extremely busy for the next two nights, so I won't be back to posting up story until Friday, though I may be around now and then to answer questions.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Elempi: For moving the time forward... was our tri-writer post at sunset or later? I can't remember.

Either way, I can't promise any time to dedicate to anything for the next two or three weeks. I'll be able to stick my head in, but probably not post. :(

[Thinlómien]

Cel, Noggie, shouldn't we finish our discussion before that? If you agree with me, do something. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi: For moving the time forward... was our tri-writer post at sunset or later? I can't remember.

Either way, I can't promise any time to dedicate to anything for the next two or three weeks. I'll be able to stick my head in, but probably not post. :(
After sunset. You will be missed, of course.

[Folwren]

Elempi, do you want or do you not want Javan to stay behind at the Mead Hall and take a place in Eodwine's court? I would like a yes or no, but if you trully don't care, I guess I'll accept that, but I'll probably take it more as a no if you do say 'I don't care'. I can't think of any particular reason why he would stay, unless his parents purposefully sent him along to get a place somewhere so he could work his way up to something by the time he's a man. Kind of like sending a boy onto a ship to be a midshipman and work his way up to being captain and admiral. . .

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi, do you want or do you not want Javan to stay behind at the Mead Hall and take a place in Eodwine's court? I would like a yes or no, but if you trully don't care, I guess I'll accept that, but I'll probably take it more as a no if you do say 'I don't care'. I can't think of any particular reason why he would stay, unless his parents purposefully sent him along to get a place somewhere so he could work his way up to something by the time he's a man. Kind of like sending a boy onto a ship to be a midshipman and work his way up to being captain and admiral. . .

-- FolwrenLet Javan stay. The more the merrier. Eodwine needs laborers. ;) Sorry for missing that question earlier. Want to offer one of the Mead Hall style breif Character Descrips?

[Folwren]

I can make a character description, if that's what you mean by offering one of the Mead Hall style breif Character Descrips.

He can work as a laborer. He's only a boy so he can't really be much else. Let him act as a page or squire or something along those lines.

If that's the case, then I do need to get in a post between Medreth and Thornden before you move time on to evening. I will try very hard to get it done this afternoon. You did you say you weren't going to move time on until this weekend, right?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Right. :)

[Celuien]

Cel, Noggie, shouldn't we finish our discussion before that? If you agree with me, do something. :)
We should. Looking at the end of the last post, it seems that Stigend would be the more appropriate person to reply. Noggie?

[Folwren]

There, Elempi, post placed and I think I can stand a time jump now. Tell me if I did alright. Fea? Are you around? I mentioned Saeryn in my post, you'd better tell me if it's alright.

As for Javan's character description. . .I'll work on that tomorrow. I was fine with the appearance part, but when it came to his personality, I got stuck. I need to decide how much of a 'youngest child' he actually is and acts. Any opinions?

-- Folwren

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

You're good.

[littlemanpoet]

As for Javan's character description. . .I'll work on that tomorrow.The character descrip around here only requires name, age, occupation (if applicable), relations (if any), and what he does at the mead hall. A little characteristics is fine too. Nothing nearly as fancy as the formal rpg stuff.

[Folwren]

O-oh................well, that's easy, then! But I've already written the personalities thing. Ha. Well, here's what I've got. Good luck with him. Remember, if Eodwine gives him a trial and decides he doesn't like him, Thornden's already told Medreth that he might be coming back.

Name: Javan - Thornden’s brother
Age: Twelve

Appearance: Javan is four foot three inches, neither skinny nor stout, just somewhere in between. He has dark blond (almost brown) hair, brown eyes, a pointed nose with a crook at its bridge, and a small mouth, all placed in a round, lightly tanned face – his jaw not yet having developed a man like squareness.
He is clothed simply with brown cloth breeches, a white, loose shirt, and mid-calf high leather boots.

No occupation up till now except for running around on a farm having fun and doing a few random chores. At the mead hall he’ll do whatever anyone wants him to do, run errands, help clean the horse stalls, scrub the floor, wait on people, whatever is most convenient for him.

Personalities:
Weaknesses: Javan is the youngest child of six and this has a great deal to do with his character makeup. He is intelligent, but he’s also impatient, impulsive and inexperienced. He doesn’t keep his temper very well when insulted or challenged and is quick to take or make a fight. He is somewhat spoiled, but not to a terrible degree (spoiled in the sense that he has gotten away with loosing his temper, teasing his sisters in rather infuriating ways, getting away with not being wholly productive, and being positively difficult at times). He’s also terribly stubborn. (Perhaps that’s the only way he takes after his oldest brother…)

Strengths: Apart from all these negative traits, he is actually a friendly boy. He talks a great deal, upon first meeting someone, he does his best to make them feel comfortable. He truly does try to please people for the most part, but sometimes his attempts go astray. He is not shy, nor quiet, and has a great deal of little boy energy still stacked up inside him. He’s got a good sense of humor. He is also capable of accomplishing almost anything he sets his hands to, providing he sticks with it long enough.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Whether or not Javan does the same, I suspect Degas will take an immediate liking to him when he returns.

[Folwren]

Well, good! I'm very glad to hear it. :)

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Jenny, I think Medreth would have to be gone by the time the sun set. Could you change Thornden sitting with his siblings, to just Thornde with his brother? Would appreciate it. :)

-- Folwren

[JennyHallu]

no problem, Foley

Eodwine, feel free to have Pio move my post around if you need to adjust the timing.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Jen, do you have actual letters to my twins written? If so, can you PM them to me? Or did you have a different plan?

[Nogrod]

We should. Looking at the end of the last post, it seems that Stigend would be the more appropriate person to reply. Noggie?I'll try to come up with something tomorrow...

[littlemanpoet]

Eodwine, feel free to have Pio move my post around if you need to adjust the timing.Okay, Linduial. ;)

[Folwren]

Heyho, everyone! There's been some editing and fixing up going in a couple of my previous posts. Tara has put in some writing about Lys in my posts # 573 and 576. Enjoy.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Sorry. Can't post anything on Garstan - Modtryth - Stigend -thing today. Will try to do something tomorrow.

Lmp: If you wish to go forwards with time, that's fine. My post could be then attached to a place or another where it fits...

So Celuien & Lommy, I try to come up with a provisional solution, not setting things definitively to one way or another. That ok. with you?

[Celuien]

Fine with me. :)

Both of Garstan's children will be attending the reading and writing lessons, which may or may not help matters.

[Nogrod]

Both of Garstan's children will be attending the reading and writing lessons, which may or may not help matters.Maybe Cnebba should too...

But sorry, is this a new concept or something from the earlier writing (I have been shamefully unable to catch up with things here due to RL rush)? So who gives the reading & writing lessons and when? I think it would be very good for Cnebba (on his parents view).

It's a pity this had not been addressed before, for if that was the habit earlier Cnebba should have been there from the beginning of our family coming into the Mead Hall, but if this is a new concept just introduced, then its different...

We''ll come up with a solution, I believe.

[Celuien]

The lessons are a new invitation from Marenil. Jenny and I have been plotting this for some time for Lèoðern, but all three of the children were invited at the end of her last post.

[JennyHallu]

Marenil shall be doing the teaching, time yet to be determined in the face of Cnebba's and Garmund's apprenticeships. Leodern's lessons are likely to take longer, as they shall include some rudiments of comportment and manners the boys will likely not require.

EDIT: Fea, I hope I have adequately answered your questions about the letters via IM.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

EDIT: Fea, I hope I have adequately answered your questions about the letters via IM.
Yep, you're good.

You know my schedule for the next week or so. If I don't go insane, I'll see what I can do about drafting a post or two. If all else fails, we can place them later.

[Thinlómien]

Both Noggie's proposal and the reading lessons sound very fine to me.

[Nogrod]

Both Noggie's proposal and the reading lessons sound very fine to me.We just need to intertwine them as there will be not the proposal of the reading lessons known in our supper-table... I'll try to come up with something and possibly my post could then be placed in to some earlier stage of the story?

[littlemanpoet]

I notice that it has been five days since anyone has posted to the EMH thread; which is okay as goodly attention is being paid to the Abduction story. I'll be busy again, with ungodly numbers of hours at work through the weekend, then a 4 day vacation and not back until Wed. 10/18. So if the EOH thread gets posts, or a brief haitus until I return, I guess that's okay. I'll still be paying attention until Sat. morning, so if there's any discussion on this I can take part.

[Folwren]

I thought we were waiting for you to post something.

Or were we waiting for Nogrod, Celuien, and Lommy to write something?

But if we don't have to wait, if I don't have to wait, I've got a post I can write up.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I was waiting for Lommy, Noggie, and Cellie. ;)

Feel free, Follie. :D

[Celuien]

I was waiting for Lommy, Noggie, and Cellie.
I was waiting for Noggie. ;) I'm not sure if there's something that has to be added in before the lesson offer before I reply to Marenil. I guess I could just post and accept the offer. :D

[Thinlómien]

If it's only about Noggie and you wish to move on, maybe he could write the post later (he can write it more than 24h from now at the earliest), and pio could place it to a suitable place?

[littlemanpoet]

That sounds good, Lommy. Carry on!

[Celuien]

Lessons will be accepted this evening, after which I think my characters will have everything wrapped up.

[littlemanpoet]

Foley, Medreth being a young lady would not travel by horseback alone. She would have to arrange to go with a traveling party or would need to have some kind of escort.

[Folwren]

I know. The thought came to me as I wrote it, but I was too lazy to deal with it.

I forget quite how far out they are, but I remember thinking (and maybe writing somehwere) that the ride was between two or three hours. In reality, Thornden could escort her and return almost immediately, arriving not long after dark.

Would that be acceptable?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Yes.

[Celuien]

Noggie: I've just answered for Stigend about the lessons. Let me know if I should edit anything. :)

[Folwren]

I will be gone until Monday evening.

I have re-written that post, Elempi. If you find anything else that needs to be changed, say it here and then you all can continue writing your posts with the expectations that I will make appropriate changes when I return.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Noggie: I've just answered for Stigend about the lessons. Let me know if I should edit anything. :)That was good indeed! No reason to edit anything there.

What I thought previously was the problem, was that we ended at the supper-table, discussing what to do there, and now just jumped to making the solution in the evening... But that's no problem to me as we have this now knit neatly together.

[littlemanpoet]

This may be my last chance to post until Wednesday. Tally ho and have fun with your characters and all that. I'm off to the frozen wastes of northern Michigan (in October no less :rolleyes: )

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

*checking in to affirm that my heart is still beating*

If I'm needed, please let me know. If left to my own devices, I might entirely miss it. I'm a little more here than not, but that isn't saying much.

[littlemanpoet]

By gum I believe I've double posted. I've given an opening for :

- Celuien to write Garmund,

and for interaction that would involve

- Kath's Kara in the kitchen,

and for anybody who wants to have a hoot at the expense of Garreth who knows women not at all though he thinks otherwise....

Let's have some fun! :)

[Folwren]

Oh! If only Medreth could have stayed! What fun it would have been. But it was impossible.

Elempi, when would be a good time for Thornden to return and introduce Javan to Eodwine?

In the mean time, Tara and Firefoot, can Javan be with Lys and Leof?

If it's time for me to post, I will try to get something up tomorrow evening, but tomorrow is a very busy day for us here.

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

Certainly. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi, when would be a good time for Thornden to return and introduce Javan to Eodwine?Any time once he's returned to the main hall.

[Celuien]

- Celuien to write Garmund
Let's have some fun!

Tonight or tomorrow. :) Relatives are visiting whom I haven't seen for a while - it's a long trip from Michigan. ;)

[Taralphiel]

Not a problem, Foley!

I'll follow your lead. :)

- Tara

[Thinlómien]

Ooh, I want to see the moment Cnebba sees the siamese twins... :eek:

Noggie, were you writing a post to be placed after the discussion or not?

[Nogrod]

Ooh, I want to see the moment Cnebba sees the siamese twins... :eek: Me too!!!

Noggie, were you writing a post to be placed after the discussion or not?First I was, then I wasn't... well, maybe I am now anyhow? :rolleyes:

I mean yes there is a problem as the discussion at the table at noon was left open and then we had the solution in the evening. So I must write a "dead-end" discussion or one that comes up with a solution that will be cancelled the same evening... Not too motivating, but I think I'll do it just for the consistency of the storyline.

I'll post it here to this thread today. Hopefully Pio or Lommy will move after Lommy's last post (that probably is the most natural place for it).

[Thinlómien]

For me it's all the same who does it. If I do it, I can do it tomorrow.

[Folwren]

Elempi, once Thornden and Lys have finished talking, Thornden will be going in to search for Eodwine. I think it will only be a matter of another post from Tara and then one more from me, but I hope that it will give you all enough time to finish up with Lefun and Ritun. That way, Thornden won't be interupting anything.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Ooh, I want to see the moment Cnebba sees the siamese twins...
:) Mind you, the word "siamese" may appear in this discussion thread and in ATM rpgs :p but NOT on the Eorling Mead Hall rpg thread. Please make sure that your Middle Earth character avoids this anachronism.

Not only consistency of the story line, Noggie, but maybe even heightening the inevitable conflict. ;)

Foley, why shouldn't Thornden interrupt anything? It would be especially interesting if he did. Imagine! It would make for very fun writing, don't you think?

[Folwren]

Foley, why shouldn't Thornden interrupt anything? It would be especially interesting if he did. Imagine! It would make for very fun writing, don't you think?

Yes, I can imagine. "Eodwine, I swear it wasn't my idea to bring him back!"

While I was writing the above post, something told me that you would at least think that 'it would make for very fun writing', if not say it right out, and lo and behold, you have!

I'll tell you what, if, by the time Tara and I have finished our short discussion, you all haven't left the twins, I won't avoid interrupting you too much.


-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Not only consistency of the story line, Noggie, but maybe even heightening the inevitable conflict. ;)You're right! I came up with something but I have to see whether Celuien accepts it first (Lommy accepted on Modryth's part), let's see... I mean there was the funny thing also that Stigend has wished Cnebba to become a carpenter and then Celuien wrote that Stigend was happy to take the offer of education! Hmmm... there must have been something far worse to come without this idea of education then. I have an idea what it would be, but I'll write it down and send it to Celuien first.

[Nogrod]

Okay.

Celuien has checked this and it's ok. by her. Lommy has approved the basic storyline but has not yet seen the post.

So, if Pio (or Lommy?) would put this following post in to the thread after Lommy's post #568, then Lommy could edit Modtryth's lines herself if she so wishes.

So: problem solved + Stigend's fast approval of education explained + family-argument made... :D

PS. the last things are there to remind of the progress in the construction-works.

--------------------------------
Nogrod's post

Gah! Modryth was tough and crafty as usual. Just a moment before Stigend had been most confident that things were at last going his way but now he wasn’t so sure any more. Indeed he started to have doubts about his success. Everything Modtryth said were both true and reasonable: Cnebba was just eight, carpentry wasn’t the safest of the trades... Stigend felt his leg still aching.

“Maybe Cnebba would do better beginning something else, at least for the time being? You know how he’s interested in all things in nature. Maybe someone here would be willing to teach him those things? Or how he’s interested in all the tales of old and new, or how he likes to count and sort all kinds of things and arrange them. I admire your trade dear husband, but I do think Cnebba’s talents lie elsewhere.” Modryth looked at Stigend challengingly. Garstan frowned. This seemed like a topic those two had argued over quite a few times before and he had no wish to put his head in between the two.

Stigend was indeed preparing himself for defeat. When Modryth took a position this firmly there was no turning her head, at least with means known to Stigend. He swallowed the piece of bread he had been chewing and took a sip of the wine. Then he looked at both Garstan and Modtryth and said half-jokingly, trying to win time to have one more decent argument: “Maybe you should take him with you when you go to the town for your duties?” With that he nodded smilingly to Garstan.

“Yes, why not! Indeed.” Modryth seemed happy with the idea. Stigend stiffened down to his toes. “And Leothern is surely welcome to join us, if that suits you Garstan? They could learn so many things about measures and qualities, and they would meet different people and learn about different characters. And...”

“Allright, Modryth! My son is no merchant... and will not become one!” Stigend was clearly agitated. He dropped his spoon into his bowl somewhat ostentatiously and pushed the bowl away from him like he was about make a leave immediately.

But Garstan laid his hand over Stigend’s and looked at him straight to the eye. Stigend froze back to his seat. “Let’s give her a chance, my friend? Now, she will not turn our children into fraudulent merchants by just taking them to learn a couple of new things on the market!” Stigend hesitated. He didn’t know what to say or do. They were both against him, but they were speaking sense too. Stigend was baffled.

While Stigend was speechless, Garstan continued: “I suggest the following. Modtryth takes Cnebba and Leothern with her to the town, now what is it, once or twice a week?” He turned towards Modtryth with the question. She nodded back to Garstan and immediately flashed a triumphant smile to Stigend. “So on those days I’ll take Garmund with me to learn stonework. Not one child is forced to be separated from the others as the others play and our problem is solved. Doesn’t that sound reasonable to you Stigend?” With that Garstan patted Stigends hand lightly. Stigend withdrew his hand from under Garstan’s but then, after a moment’s hesitation, took hold of it.

“Maybe you’re right my friend. Maybe you’re right my wife.” He glanced to the contendedly smiling Modtryth beside him. “It does solve our problem, and what comes to Cnebba’s future... well he has a lots of it in front of him, days and years to come. Maybe we should not decide that yet...”

So they finished their supper, mainly sharing funny incidents their children had been involved in before the time they had known each other. They were laughing a lot and slowly even Stigend started to regain his usual hearty mood.

“By the way”, Stigend said, when they were getting their empties to the kitchen, “my job of hewing the baulks is getting ready. It will be done in just a couple of days. Then I would need a few pairs of strong hands to aid me to actually put the walls together into a framework. We need to hoist those heavy logs on top of each other and secure them with dowels. The children should be away from the site then. To be sure... I guess I will need to ask lord Eodwine for a couple of men to help me there, but I would really appreciate your help there too Garstan – if your own work allows you to join in.”

“My work with the oven is getting ready, so rest assured, I will be there.” Garstan answered. “I’m looking forwards to it. Maybe I’ll learn something, as you did when you helped me with the brickwork”, with this he smiled to Stigend and he smiled back. Modtryth was smiling too, albeit for very different reasons.

[Thinlómien]

Mind you, the word "siamese" may appear in this discussion thread and in ATM rpgs but NOT on the Eorling Mead Hall rpg thread. Please make sure that your Middle Earth character avoids this anachronism. Of course, I used it here just to make it clear that I wasn't talking about Garreth and Harreld... :) (Maybe we could still call them khandese twins? ;))

Noggie, I placed the post. I did edit a few of Modtryth's lines, but only as little bit.

[Folwren]

Elempi, so you know, Tara told me she probably won't be able to get a post up until Friday. That being the case, it's a good chance that you all will be quite through with trying to figure out the problem with Rilef, and Thornden won't be barging in on anything. Unless, of course, you two contrive to be slow about it and by the time Saturday roles around and I manage to write my next post you aren't done yet. I wouldn't put it below you. :p

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Ooh! Ooh! :D Trying to get Elempi back for Eodwine picking on Thornden? :D

Okay, so I know. ;)

[Folwren]

Ooh! Ooh! :D Trying to get Elempi back for Eodwine picking on Thornden? :D

It's not true! I protest! I never take revenge on anybody!

Okay, so that's not entirely true, but, no, really, it's not to get you back. *chuckle* It is, after all, Tara's doing, not mine. ;)

-- Folwren

[Taralphiel]

It's not true! I protest! I never take revenge on anybody!

Okay, so that's not entirely true, but, no, really, it's not to get you back. *chuckle* It is, after all, Tara's doing, not mine. ;)

-- Folwren

You make me seem so devious! :3 It is poor Lys' doing. And really, could you really be cross at HIM? *giggles*

My post is up. Sorry its so short. I didn't want to cut into anybody else's movements, as I'm imagining Javan and Léof will return shortly.

I'll try my very best to make reply posts as soon as anyone gets them up. Unfortunately I'm looking at a trip to the doctor's, as I took a teensy tumble down the stairs on Wednesday and am left with a limp a little like Lys'...

It's all for inspiration. *wink*

- Tara :)

[Folwren]

Oh! Poor Tara! I do hope you get better soon. I used to fall down the stairs all the time...when I was about three, I guess. In that house, the stairs were uncarpeted and had sharp and nasty corners. I have scars all over my face from falling!

I wasn't trying to blame you. I was just saying, I wasn't being scheming!

And now that you have gotten your post up a day early, I guess there might still be a chance of Thornden having to interrupt them after all. :mad: (;) )

Don't worry about it being short, I think it's fine. Also, were you wanting to write yet another post after Thornden replies? Let me know so I can either continue with my post or stop again for you.

-- Folwren

[Taralphiel]

I can easily add in another, Foley. Please write your post, and whatever flows nicely, be it with or without a post from me, go ahead with.

I'll read over and check to see what I need to do. :)

Oh, and I'll be fine. I just feel a little silly! XD

- Tara

[littlemanpoet]

Shortest post I've made in a good while (at least on the actual rpg), but it just seems like it's Foley's turn. Maybe I'll add some more from Garreth and Harreld if I think of it. Getting late...

[piosenniel]

Bêthberry has offered a seasonal RPG in Rohan – The Veil is Lifted.

It’s a 7th Age game, based loosely around Hallowe’en and open to all comers.

Come join us and have a little fun!

Game Thread – HERE (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=13350)
Discussion Thread – THERE (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=13351)

~*~ Pio

[Folwren]

Shortest post I've made in a good while (at least on the actual rpg), but it just seems like it's Foley's turn.

You stinker! I was letter it be your turn!

Well, be that is it may, I'm heading off in two minutes for the ACT testing place and won't be able to take my turn until this afternoon, at the earliest. Tell me if you want Eodwine to come out when Thornden asks him if he can have a word with him, or what. I figure, Thornden will say something like, 'I would speak with you, if you have a moment. There are a couple things I would like to ask you.' And then Eodwine would probably step outside the door? Or say, "Hang on a second," step back inside, tell them he'll be back, and then come out?

Just give me a hint as to what Eodwine will say or do...

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

You stinker:D

, Thornden will say something like, 'I would speak with you, if you have a moment. There are a couple things I would like to ask you.' And then Eodwine would probably step outside the door? Or say, "Hang on a second," step back inside, tell them he'll be back, and then come out?Sounds good. Take your liberties; I can always slap your hand afterward. ;)

[Folwren]

Sounds good. Take your liberties; I can always slap your hand afterward. ;)

Well, I've taken my liberties, please don't slap too hard.

It's your turn now - I hope my post was long enough. When we're through with Javan there are still two matters that Thornden has to talk with Eodwine about, so don't excuse him too quickly.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Eodwine's reply to Thornden and Javan is up - and a pair of questions back to Javan. Let's see what happens. So as you can see, I haven't kicked Thornden out before he can put forth his other two matters. Busy guy, this Thornden! ;)

[Folwren]

Eodwine's reply to Thornden and Javan is up - and a pair of questions back to Javan. Let's see what happens. So as you can see, I haven't kicked Thornden out before he can put forth his other two matters. Busy guy, this Thornden! ;)

No joke. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

Okay, thanks. I'll post again tomorrow. Will you want Eodwine to say anything further after Javan replies to his questions, or should the boy be dismissed once he answers? Hmph. It's so late I've forgotten one of the two additional businesses...oohh, yes, right. Okay.

Tomorrow. Goodnight!

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Feel free to put appropriate words in Eodwine's mouth. If I have a problem with any of it, I'm sure to let you know. ;)

[littlemanpoet]

Nice post, Foley. Eodwine will not be quite so combative as the second to the final paragraph has him, especially in his current mood of pity for Ritun and Lefun. I think all you need therefore of the last paragraph is the final sentence. I'll have a post up perhaps tonight with Eodwine's reply.

[Folwren]

Right ho, captain, sir!

So, the second to last paragraph and the last paragraph are going out, and the last sentence is being kept....

Will look forward to your post.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Just so it's really clear and we all get the description (and our own perceptions of what's going on) the same: the twins are not two heads on one body; rather, they split at the mid-section and have two torsos, and two pairs of arms, as well as two heads. Please make sure you describe your character's perceptions accordingly. Thanks!

[Nogrod]

Celuien: I have used your family somewhat. Hopefully that is okay. I have tried to make things go forwards and to kind of open the wound that was never stiched among the children...

Please let me know if I have done something in a wrong way and I'll correct it.

[Celuien]

Looks fine. :)