Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread

[littlemanpoet]

Aww, but she's such fun to write. :( I'll have a think about it.
It's only a suggestion. Your choice, since she has become your character.

[Firefoot]

So what I'm "hearing " is that it's probably best to keep this thing "The Eorling Mead Hall" with its cooks, ostler, servingwenches and men at arms, and just move the location to Scarburg, and have the White Horse Inn be a source of livelihood the Eorl has in Edoras. That actually sounds pretty simple and a lot less bothersome. I'm cool with that. Scyld might not be, though... actually, that might present some problems. The Mead Hall format was very conducive to guests (overnight or long-term). How would that work at Scarburg?

[littlemanpoet]

Well, a mead hall is a mead hall, and the lord of one is still expected to honor the code of hospitality that was typical of the culture. So there would be no difference, except in one thing: there would be no feel of an inn anymore; it would be a thoroughgoing mead hall without guest rooms and such.

[Formendacil]

Náin would likely accompany Eodwine to Scarburg. As a "gift" to the King, to be employed in the beautification of his vassal's Mead Hall, he would, with the work on the White Horse Inn location more or less completed, likely be either moving on to serve the king in some other jurisdiction, or--quite logically--go to turn Sorn's sorry estate into something worthy of an eorl. (And, as an aside, Náin is likely to view Eodwine's departure as the best thing that could happen to the man, who will now be a proper lord with a proper estate, and none of this innkeeper nonsense.)

On a related note--is there a rough schematic of Scarburg, similar to what we have of the White Horse Inn location?

[littlemanpoet]

Náin would likely accompany Eodwine to Scarburg. As a "gift" to the King, to be employed in the beautification of his vassal's Mead Hall, he would, with the work on the White Horse Inn location more or less completed, likely be either moving on to serve the king in some other jurisdiction, or--quite logically--go to turn Sorn's sorry estate into something worthy of an eorl. (And, as an aside, Náin is likely to view Eodwine's departure as the best thing that could happen to the man, who will now be a proper lord with a proper estate, and none of this innkeeper nonsense.)I appreciate the sentiment. ;)

On a related note--is there a rough schematic of Scarburg, similar to what we have of the White Horse Inn location?No, but I greatly desire to work one up. I'll keep you posted. No pun intended. :p

[Thinlómien]

What about the (re)construction work in the White Horse Inn building? How ready is it? I (and I guess Noggie would agree here) would love to have our little family following Eodwine, but obviously Stigend can't leave his work unless he gets a permission from the Eorl or the work is done. Same goes for Garstan, I guess, and it would be sad to lose him and his lovely children. Sure this is not a big problem, but I thought someone'd better bring it up.

[Celuien]

Long time, no see. :(

I just wanted to say that I'm, unfortunately, unlikely to be able to be a frequent poster (as may have been guessed by my long absence). Life has changed quite a bit for me over the past month or two (in a good way), but my time isn't as available for internet activities anymore.

I'd rather have my characters' not entirely written out of the MH, since it was great fun writing them and I may be able to come back more often in the future, but unless someone else wants to write them, they'll have to be placed on the inactive list.

[Thinlómien]

Cel, would it be alright for you if Noggie and I carried them along? (Even though, it wouldn't be the same... :()
:)

[littlemanpoet]

The work to be done on The White Horse Inn is odds and ends now. Finish work.

The work that will be required at Scarburg will be frankly intimidating. If Celuien is willing to let Lommy & Noggy carry her characters, I think that would work. You will be missed, Celuien; you're welcome back any time.

I'm working up some maps. I have the basic landform and house and outbuildings more or less worked up, and am beginning on the layout of the house interior. Next I'll do a broader layout of the lands adjacent as well. I'll post them up as soon as I'm relatively satisfied with them.

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, let's see how this works. I had to wean myself away from color to get it to upload, so it's all in black and white. Sorry if my imagination recollects this differently than yours does. If there are any mistakes, please let me know and I'll correct them.

Open the attachments and let me know what you think.

[Lhunardawen]

You "read" me, at least, right, Elempi. :)

It's rather hard to imagine Harreld without Garreth. Won't it work to have both of them relocated?

I must say, the marshes open up some exciting possibilities...or maybe that's just me, having no sense of direction. :rolleyes:

I hope you'll get to have more free time soon, Celuien. :(

[Kath]

Bah. My computer won't let me see the plans as it doesn't have a working version of Paint. Could some kindly soul email them to me?

[Nogrod]

Well, big news indeed!

But yes, I do think that Stigend would find the new challenges ones he'd like to meet. And after all lord Eodwine has been the best master his family has had and they would like to cling to him as they have so bad experiences of different lords.

And if Celuien allows us, I think we (Lommy & myself) could carry Garstan & his kids around as well - it would break Cnebba's heart if he needed to separate with Garstan's children. I think they have all become good friends already.

I myself will be able to take part more actively pretty soon.

[littlemanpoet]

I was the last one to post to the EMH rpg. So I'm waiting for someone else. I don't like to double post.

Eodwine is very happy with his carpenter and stone shaper too. He most certainly does not want to be parted from them. He told me so himself. ;)

[Celuien]

Cel, would it be alright for you if Noggie and I carried them along?

That would be wonderful. Thanks. :)

[Folwren]

I was the last one to post to the EMH rpg. So I'm waiting for someone else. I don't like to double post.

I know, but I don't have anything to post, except some thoughts for Javan. And I may well do that tomorrow, just to get something on there and maybe remind others of its existance.

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

I can write up a post - though it probably won't be until tomorrow, and no one should feel like they should wait on me.

[Thinlómien]

I have actually written a sketch of a post in a notebook, so I guess I could edit and post it sometime quite soon, yet I'm not sure if I'm able to do it today... Besides, the post would maybe be preferably taking place around the noon than in the morning, so I guess it doesn't matter if it takes me a bit of time to get it ready. (And of course if I'm hyper productive I can write a morning-post this evening and post the noon-post tomoorow or the day after tomorrow... ;))

[Thinlómien]

My Finnish lesson was cancelled and I had nothing else to do, so I rewrote the post and saved it to my e-mail. That means I can post it almost at any time since it just takes a few minutes now.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

Do you want to post before I do? Or should I go ahead and post for Javan and have Leof walking out to where he is wiping up the water?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi,

Do you want to post before I do? Or should I go ahead and post for Javan and have Leof walking out to where he is wiping up the water?

-- Folwren

Go ahead. I won't get a chance until this evening.

[littlemanpoet]

I have a problem.

I'm brimming with ideas for this rpg, but not for this particular morning in this particular setting. It is defeating me. Not to mention I'm overtired and not at my creative best or even creative 'okay'. :rolleyes:

So keep posting and I'll try and think something up that fits.

Or do you think Eodwine's "bombshell" about Scarburg ought to come up now?

Blarg.

[Folwren]

Sure. Have him spill the beans now. But please don't move time on yet. Firefoot and I have had stuff planned for ages and you ruined our plans last time by introducing the whole outlaw scenerio.

I'm very sorry that you don't have anything to do for this particular day. I thought you said you had a lot up your sleeve. And I also believe that you promised to post something that told us what went on between Eomer and Eodwine.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Sure. Have him spill the beans now.Okay.

But please don't move time on yet. Firefoot and I have had stuff planned for ages and you ruined our plans last time by introducing the whole outlaw scenerio.Ouch! I'm sorry. You could have objected. I could have backed it out.

I'm very sorry that you don't have anything to do for this particular day. I thought you said you had a lot up your sleeve.I do. You will recall that I specifically said, "on this particular morning, in this particular setting".

And I also believe that you promised to post something that told us what went on between Eomer and Eodwine.That's what the Scarburg stuff is about.

[Folwren]

Ouch! I'm sorry. You could have objected. I could have backed it out.

Oh! No, no, no! I didn't mean it quite like that. The adventure was good and a lot of fun. Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word 'ruined'...because it didn't, it just 'postponed' our plans. So don't apologize. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'm waiting for others to post a reaction to Eodwine's bombshell before I post again.

[Folwren]

I understand. I've been busy all day yesterday and today and will likely not be able to post until Monday evening, so don't necessarily wait up for me.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Fun posts, Firefoot & Foley. It's nice to read and not be direclty involved.

It does appear that Flíthaf has had a transformation from chestnut to bay. Hmmm... I wonder how that happened? ;)

[Folwren]

Fun posts, Firefoot & Foley. It's nice to read and not be direclty involved.

It does appear that Flíthaf has had a transformation from chestnut to bay. Hmmm... I wonder how that happened? ;)

Ha! At least he didn't go from Chestnut to Black as I had in my original writing of that post!

Actually, what I decided to do was, since Herefola and Aethel were both chesnut, I wanted to make a slight difference in Flithaf's color. So...I figured a chestnut might be taken for a bay in the right lighting, or a bay for a chestnut, and since it's just in Javan's talking, it's not too bad.

Of course, if you'd like it to be completely correct, I can change it.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

First of all, I apologise for the long delay. I didn't know how to push this post into the story, and then difficult days came.

Second, I'm not sure it works. Personally I found it confusing, the sudden shifting in perspective, but I didn't know how else to deal with it. I didn't want to prune the PM-built conversation - not that I was sure how to.

Third, I probably took a bit of liberty concerning Harreld. Feel free to slap my writing hand in that case, or for any of the above reasons.

[Thinlómien]

Poor Ginna, she seems to have problems with the dishes quite often! :D

[Folwren]

lol! Well this last accident wasn't quite her fault. :p

[littlemanpoet]

Wow, Foley! Talk about channeling your opposite! :eek:

I slept more than 3 hours this afternoon! Guess I was that tired. Now I'm refreshed and it's the weekend! :) I think I'll find time to write.

[Nogrod]

It's so annoying to post for who knows how many times in a row that I'm coming back as soon as these stresses from work and other RL-things ease up...

But I'm really intending to come back.

This weekend is just more than full (painting, bowling, road-managing the equipment of our band, a meeting of the board of my choir, checking student's exams...) so I can't write anything but hopefully next week.

It always looks promising the next week until the week actually comes. But really. I feel ashamed not to have done a post in month or two...

[littlemanpoet]

Hang in there Noggie, we're pulling for you. :)

[Folwren]

Wow, Foley! Talk about channeling your opposite! :eek:

What do you mean? What opposite?

I slept more than 3 hours this afternoon! Guess I was that tired. Now I'm refreshed and it's the weekend! :) I think I'll find time to write.

Good for you! I'm glad to hear it. This weekend for me is going to be quite busy, I think. And as for sleep...heh...I was woken an hour early by a dreadful dream (worst I've had in a loooooooong time, maybe ever).

Nogrod, don't worry too much. We'll miss you while you're gone, but won't think badly of you for not writing.

Hope all is well with you.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

I was woken an hour early by a dreadful dream (worst I've had in a loooooooong time, maybe ever).You guys have time to sleep? ;)

Or time to actually remeber your dreams in the morning? When you have to rush with the clock you just don't have time to recollect your dreams... I mean one can remeber them a moment when one wakes up but then they just go *pooh* and are gone with the first conscious thought...

[Folwren]

Or time to actually remeber your dreams in the morning? When you have to rush with the clock you just don't have time to recollect your dreams... I mean one can remeber them a moment when one wakes up but then they just go *pooh* and are gone with the first conscious thought...

This one woke me and I could not stop thinking about it. It was bloody and gory and gross and horrible. Many times, I can not remember my dreams, but when one wakes you...*shudder*

[littlemanpoet]

What do you mean? What opposite?Javan is irresponsible. Thornden (more like you) is the opposite.

[Folwren]

I half thought that was what you meant, but wasn't quite sure, because quite honestly...when I was younger, I was much, much like Javan. Only now am I learning to be responsible. :D

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'll post to this rpg tomorrow. (yawn!)

[littlemanpoet]

Yet another intriguing, well written post, Firefoot. :)

Warning: Pet Peeve below!

What ever happened to the good old Anglo-Saxon word, "motto"? When did it get replaced by the Hindi borrowing, "mantra"? Elempi grumbles.

End Pet Peeve.

Please don't feel that you need to change anything, Firefoot. ;)

Actually, "motto" is from Latin. :rolleyes:

[Firefoot]

Mea culpa.

(More Latin. ;) )

Hmm... how about "theme"?

[Kath]

Hey Lhuna if you're around any time then feel free to carry on that conversation, if not I'll just have Kara backtrack and disappear. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Mea culpa.

(More Latin. ;) )

Hmm... how about "theme"? :D Tolkien probably would have said "by-word" or something.

Kath, I've edited my post so that Ginna doesn't go right back outside again, because your post keeps her in the kitchen. At least I think it does. ??? :confused:

[Lhunardawen]

I think Kath, too, missed that they are eating in the kitchen and not outside in the Hall, but I could be wrong. Sorry I can't write immediately, but it's September and I have busy days ahead... I'll try to squeeze in the first chance I get. :)

[Kath]

Ooops, sorry all. I completely missed that they were in the kitchen. Ginna coming through doors confused me. Should I edit mine or has your edit sorted it lmp? My post definitely keeps Ginna in the kitchen with me because I had her going the wrong way.

[Folwren]

I apologize most profusely for the length (or lack there of) of my last post. I had nothing further to say and so I didn't say it. Sorry.

Later this morning I should have a post up for Javan, though.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Ooops, sorry all. I completely missed that they were in the kitchen. Ginna coming through doors confused me. Should I edit mine or has your edit sorted it lmp? My post definitely keeps Ginna in the kitchen with me because I had her going the wrong way.
Could you edit your a little, Kath? That way we can avoid too many tangled notions of who's where.

[Kath]

Okay ... erm, well I've just removed any references to places really. Hopefully it should fit in now. :)

[littlemanpoet]

I'm ready to move past breakfast. Unless someone objects reasonably soon, I'll do it either tonight or tomorrow.

[Folwren]

I have no objection, your honor.

[littlemanpoet]

I've moved past breakfast, just in case nobody noticed. (sigh)

It's been almost a week, a very busy one for me. Is this losing interest? Shall we make work of it? Does something else need to be done? Do we need to recruit new writers?

[Thinlómien]

I did notice but I've been in a hurry. I'll try to post the thing I wrote weeks ago. :) Hopefully I'll find time to do that in a few days.

Personally I don't think the problem with EMH is that people are losing interest but that everybody's terribly busy.

[Folwren]

I'm not bored with it. I'm just waiting for Firefoot to post. I think I've stumped her. ;)

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

:P

I plead an incredibly busy life as of the last week or two... I haven't lost interest at all, but haven't had time to devote to RPG's (I was just about ready to bring Scyld in, too, darn it).

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, my worries are ameliorated. :p Or something like that. I'm on vacation to California next week, and may or may not have computer access. Just letting you know.

[Folwren]

How long will you be away, Elempi? Hope you have fun.

Firefoot, I'm sorry that you're so busy. Being busy isn't always fun. My schedule is actually finally becoming normal again. I'm so excited!

But post whenever you can. I've got enough patience to wait, and I've got my own stories to write.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'll be back Friday 10/5.

[Nogrod]

Nice post Lommy!

I'll try to engage myself yet again... although it seems pretty hard right now due to work.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

Is Falco still at the Mead Hall at this time?

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Yes. He's been in his room most of the morning once the stable was found empty. Where you have placed him is fine.

[Folwren]

Heh...I hope Thornden didn't offend Falco terribly much. I didn't mean to...and therefore, he didn't either.

But it is a rather humorous situation. Poor Thornden. He has a difficult time with the hobbit. Ha.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Do remember that Rowenna's views are not necessarily those of this writer. ;)

[Folwren]

Aye. Thanks for the reminder. You had me worried momenatarily. ;)

But poor Thornden! He was just trying to be nice! Twice in a row he was trying to be nice and both times he got flat refusals to his offers. :p

It'is all good. I'm happy and quite amused.

-- Foley

EDIT: Wait a minute....what do you mean, 'not necessarily those of this wirter'? Is Thornden really a stuck up snob and I'm the only one who doesn't know it?

[littlemanpoet]

Relax, "not necessarily" simply means that Rowenna is being written by this writer, so I mean it in the same sense that I would expect that Thornden's views are not necessarily those of his writer.

[Folwren]

Relax, "not necessarily" simply means that Rowenna is being written by this writer, so I mean it in the same sense that I would expect that Thornden's views are not necessarily those of his writer.


Ah. Right. Understand. :)

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Well, I've posted. Bit of a random one so anyone can continue it.

[littlemanpoet]

I've posted. Who would like a turn?

[Folwren]

Introducing two new characters...maybe only temporarilly. Elempi, don't feel obligated to accept him as your innkeeper. I just wanted to have a new character for a while.

He's not entirely blind - he can see people as shadowy shapes...very dark. He sees best at high noon, when it is brightest, and worst at night when there is no light. I don't know his name yet. :(

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Aww, I like 'em both already. :)

Fleide seemed at first like 4 but she's using words (such as position) like at least an 8 year old. How old do you mean her to be?

[Folwren]

Somewhere between 8 and 10, likely. She's capable of being extremely childish at times (not in a bad way), but she's also rather responsible and takes good care of her father.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Hmm and hmm! What do you want to happen here, Foley? Are you going to write for the rude man? What do you want Eodwine to do?

[Folwren]

I'm writing for Mr. Rude Fellow. Have Eodwine do as he would normally do. He's expecting people to come and ask about the position, isn' he?

Mr. Rude came in first and I imagine Eodwine has no knowledge of what passed outside. Mr. Rude shall act politely enough to the eorl, more than likely, so ... well, swing it, unless you want to write something by PM.

On second thought, if you want to, you can write for Mr. Rude, too. Do what you want with him. He can be a pretty neutral character, so long as he doesn't leave my ideas about him. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Interesting goings on in Rohan! :)

It's always good to read your posts, Nerindel! It's interesting how you're writing in the future of those who are still writing in Edoras. Don't worry, we'll catch up to you, and you need change nothing.

Foley, I'll write a response to the three newcomers soon.

[Nerindel]

It's interesting how you're writing in the future of those who are still writing in Edoras.

Ok having a bit of a dumb moment here... Is my timeline off ( I thought I still had to catch up, as I ended my post an hour before noon.) ooh or are you refering to the warm reception your lordship may recieve from the good peoples of Scarburg, oh now! we have to keep it interesting ;) and besides there is still my elusive 'bandit' to consider.:p

[littlemanpoet]

Ok having a bit of a dumb moment here... Is my timeline off ( I thought I still had to catch up, as I ended my post an hour before noon.) ooh or are you refering to the warm reception your lordship may recieve from the good peoples of Scarburg, oh now! we have to keep it interesting ;) and besides there is still my elusive 'bandit' to consider.:p

Most of the posts being written right now are detailing a day in which Eodwine has announced to everybody that the Eorling Mead Hall is going to be transplanted at Scarburg.

So Æðel is a month into the future.

By the way, I really like how you're setting it up that Eodwine's reception amongst the Middle Emnet folk near Scarburg is chancy. Nice touch. :)

[Nerindel]

Eorling Mead Hall
Regarding Time at the Eorling Mead Hall

The year is Fourth Age 15

(not 14 as I had wrongly recalled)

March 25 - posts 1 - 114...........Eodwine's first day as Eorl of Middle Emnet

April 1 - posts 115 - 205...........The hall wall falls down

April 4 - posts 206 - 303...........The Fair - Léof wins a horse race; Linduial is abducted; Nain arrives

April 25 - posts 304 - 400.........Eodwine holds court; Stigend, Modtryth, & Cnebba arrive, Aeol goes to study in the golden hall

April 26 - posts 401 - 468.........Trystan arrives; Linduial leaves; Garstan and Stigend plan the new kitchen

May 22 - posts 469 - 634..........Garmund, Falco & Thornden discover "Rilef" in the ruins; Javan arrives

May 23 - posts 635 - 705..........Ginna arrives & Harreld goes moony

May 24 - posts 706 - 852..........Elfthain arrives; Ritun & Lefun (Ritun) are killed by outlaws; Rowenna is freed & comes to the Hall. Elián arrives. Æðel riding to Eodwine’s aid gets side tracked and rides to the aid of the border farmers of the traitor Sorn’s lands

Events occurring between May 24 & June 24: Ulrich & Withold are hanged; Stigend is made a man of the Hall for a year and a day; Æðel Continues contact and treatment of the peoples of the traitor Sorn’s lands while continuing her training in the golden hall.

June 24 - posts 853fff...............

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I have added Æðel to your time line, I hope this clears up the confusion with my time line. Most of my Post is back tracking, well the bit regarding the Borderlanders anyway. Æðel is not aware that Lord Eodwine has been granted those lands nor that he has renamed it or that the meadhall is relocating.

Though my next post will have her discovering some things, but the main reason for her summons is that I could not justify her presance under the kings roof without anyone wondering who she was and why she was there. Lets Just say that as a foriegner in the kings halls she needs some credentials or perhap a good reference from a previous employer in Gondor. :eek:

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, I actually get it now. Nice work Nerindel. :)

Let the games continue (or whatever you want to call what we do here). :p

[Folwren]

Yes, indeed! DO let the game continue. Why haven't you written?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I was away for the weekend.

[Folwren]

Oh. I hope you had fun, wherever you went...? Or was it a business trip?

Glad you're back now. :)

[Folwren]

Elempi,

I don't know how to approach Hameth and Eodwine's private talk. I don't know what would happen or what questions would be asked and that sort of stuff. So I didn't approach it.
Let me know what I can do.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

I'm here (finally) and desirous to post, but after more than a month of absence, I'm afraid I don't quite know where to come in.

[Kath]

Anywhere you like! There are people in the kitchen so hop in and chat, or Rowenna is wandering around upstairs and I'm sure there's still some bad blood there that could give rise to a post. Just see what happens. :)

[Folwren]

No, Rowenna was ordered to join people for lunch in the main hall.

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Haha, that'll teach me to give advice before I've read the last post. :D Sorry Lhuna.

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi,

I don't know how to approach Hameth and Eodwine's private talk. I don't know what would happen or what questions would be asked and that sort of stuff. So I didn't approach it.
Let me know what I can do.

-- Folwren
Sorry not to answer this sooner. Crazy busy. I hope to get a chance tonight.

[Folwren]

Don't rush yourself, Elempi. I know you're busy. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I don't know how to approach Hameth and Eodwine's private talk.Tell it instead of show it. In other words, since Hameth is not a main character, their exchange may pass behind closed doors and no-one but Eodwine know what happened as Hameth leaves, looking hopeful. Will that work? Since he's a non-player character, we don't have to write him.

I'm here (finally) and desirous to post, but after more than a month of absence, I'm afraid I don't quite know where to come in.I had Harreld show up for lunch which is unusual; he has only one reason to do that, even though he said it was to get away from Garreth for a bit. ;)

Hope to see some posts by others tonight or so....

[Lhunardawen]

I had Harreld show up for lunch which is unusual; he has only one reason to do that, even though he said it was to get away from Garreth for a bit. ;)

Hope to see some posts by others tonight or so....

Hmm... :D I'll see what I can do.


EDIT: I hope you don't mind my using Thornden, Foley, especially when all I did was subject him to another rejection. I simply could not help it. I could edit it out, though, if you'd rather spare him the third strike. :)

[Folwren]

lol!! No that's fine. It is probably like Thornden to offer his services. I didn't even think about him being rejected again...ha. I'll have to see about that. :D

I will post later today.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Wanted to just mention that that long post was written by both Elempi and myself. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

:D Leave it to an irascible little girl to blurt out the one thing that ought not to be said but is obvious to everyone else. "You like him!"

One small problem with your descrip of Harreld: he is about 35, not in his early twenties, so he wouldn't look so young; not old, but not young.

[Folwren]

Okay. I'll fix that.

Yeah, I thought that it might a little... interesting...if she stated the obvious and embarrassing.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

But does Ginna, really? :p ;)

[littlemanpoet]

That is, of course, a rather interesting question, regardless of what she conveys to Harreld. Oooh! :eek: :p

[Lhunardawen]

Personally, there's someone else I like for her. I don't know why I'm telling you this. :D

[littlemanpoet]

Who? Now that you've let the cat out of the bag, we really ought to know its color and claw length.... ;)

Who would like to answer Lys? I could, but I want to give someone else the opportunity.

[Folwren]

Who would like to answer Lys? I could, but I want to gived someone else the opportunity.

Same here...

-- Fol

[Folwren]

Elempi, go ahead and post, how 'bout? I posted more recently than you and I can't do it this evening whilst you may be able to.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'll get a chance to tonight.

[Lhunardawen]

I'm wondering if I should tell you outright or try to find a way to somehow weave it into a post... :p

[littlemanpoet]

Weave it. It's more fun that way. :)

[Folwren]

More suspensful anyway. :rolleyes:

Yes, do weave it, Lhuna.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

I'll be waiting for a good opportunity to do that, then - hopefully sooner rather than later.

[littlemanpoet]

Seems as if nobody really has anything more to write into this day. Shall we move on to a new day? If so, what day?

There's "court day" on the morrow, but that doesn't need actual rpg-ing. I don't really need to rpg finding an innkeeper either. I guess I'm most interested in the actual move to Scarburg. Any other ideas or needs?

[Lhunardawen]

Ginna has nothing else to say, I think. I'm okay with the move to Scarburg.

Does Randver need to know, though? Of course he does. But does he have to drop by in the Hall or in Scarburg?

[littlemanpoet]

Good question. It seems to me that Eodwine would, in consideration of Ginna, send a mesage to Randver. Seems to me that the move to Scarburg might actually bring Ginna closer to the location of her father?

[Nerindel]

I need an evening post for the current day. Aeol Must speak with Eodwine.
I will post tonight if everyone is finished with the afternoon posts.

[Folwren]

Eodwine and Thornden should decide if Javan's staying. If he's not, he should go back home sometime before the move to Scarburg.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

What direction do you want to take regarding Javan, Foley?

Nerindel, how do you want to handle the conversation?

Lhuna, I'm thinking that Harreld has had a chance to talk with Garreth about going to Scarburg, and a chance to mull over his own feelings regarding Ginna, such that a suppertime post featuring Ginna and Harreld would be fitting for this Day yet.

[Folwren]

What direction do you want to take regarding Javan, Foley?

Not entirely sure. I could do a whole bunch of character development and change on him - making him become more responsible in time and learning big lessons. If he stays, I promise trouble.
However, if people don't want trouble, then he doesn't have to stay.

I don't care, really - whether he stays or not. It has to be realistic enough to be believable. Thornden's partial to him, so he'll be willing to let him stay, even if he is a bit of a nuisance (in the hopes that he'll get better), but Eodwine needs to think it's worth it.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

Good question. It seems to me that Eodwine would, in consideration of Ginna, send a mesage to Randver. Seems to me that the move to Scarburg might actually bring Ginna closer to the location of her father?
I'm not really sure (sorry, I have absolutely no sense of direction), but that would make things more interesting. Let's just make it so.

Lhuna, I'm thinking that Harreld has had a chance to talk with Garreth about going to Scarburg, and a chance to mull over his own feelings regarding Ginna, such that a suppertime post featuring Ginna and Harreld would be fitting for this Day yet.
I agree. To the PM box, then? :)

[littlemanpoet]

Foley, Javan can stay. More trouble makes things more interesting.

Lhuna, to the PM box. :) I can start unless you beat me to it.

[Nerindel]

Littlemanpoet, I just pm'd you regarding the Aeol/Eodwine conversation, but you seem to have snuck a post up at the same time :P Also a month seems to have past since she entered the Mead hall and now she is in Scarburg :eek: I had hoped to have this conversation before they located as she is no longer alone.

[littlemanpoet]

Ah. I'll fix. I got confused as to where this was at. Easily done. Back to mid-June, then. :)

[Lhunardawen]

Um. I think the post I just put up is rather misplaced, maybe it should be placed before Nerindel's?

[littlemanpoet]

That last paragraph is very, very good. And just add a heading to it saying "a little earlier"

[Lhunardawen]

Thanks. :) The idea was shamelessly stolen from someone who made that exact observation...between us. *shrug*

Ooh, we can do that? How convenient!

[littlemanpoet]

Perhaps it's a little rough and ready, but I think any reader should be able to see how it works, considering how Æol's and Eodwine's conversation occurs well into supper while Harreld's and Ginna's is a bit before - as you all noticed anyway. :p

[littlemanpoet]

Glad to see your post, Tara. :)

Things do look a bit jumbled now, though.

I'm wondering if there's some way we can get these posts lined up in more of a timeline type sequence? The latest post with Lys really should somehow go before my "suppertime" post, and while we're at it, Lhuna's post would work more smoothly ahead of Nerindel's. I'm just not sure how to go about it, or if it ought to be left as it is.

[Lhunardawen]

Maybe we could just insert the more recent posts in the older ones so that they'll be in the right timeframe? Like, for example, you could transfer the post we wrote to the earlier one you wrote for Harreld.

[Folwren]

And I could put Tara's post at the end of my last post.

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, that'll work. I'll take care of Lhuna's post (which will happen this evening) and Foley can take care of Tara's. Hope that's okay with Tara. :eek:

[Taralphiel]

Fine with me.

- Tara

[Folwren]

Alrighty! It's done. :)

[Nerindel]

FYI - Matrim is in his early twenties and of average height and built for a soldier of Ithielien, though at the moment his hair is an odd off-ish dark blonde and he is dressed in the current Rohirrim working class fashions. HE doesn't mind his name being shortened to Mat, he may even shorten it himself :P

Balvir on the other hand is in his mid forties, broad shouldered and slightly taller than Matrim, his graying hair is also bleached giving a slightly better affect and he too is dressed in the same Rohirrim fashion.

Balvir and Matrim are the only people in the hall who know Æðel as Æðelhild, and they will be very careful not to reveal that little titbit.

*******************

Foley is it possible that the lad Matrim is speaking to in the stables is Javan, if you see any problems with how the lad is portrayed in comparision to Javan I am happy to amend.

The serving Maid Balvir is talking too is up for grabs....Ginna... Kara....Rowenna?

Lmp don't worry I haven't forgot Eodwine, I have a post that I will put up after supper (My supper, not game time lol).

[Folwren]

Foley is it possible that the lad Matrim is speaking to in the stables is Javan, if you see any problems with how the lad is portrayed in comparision to Javan I am happy to amend.

Nerindel, I only briefly, briefly glanced through the post when you first posted it. I was figuring it was Javan who Matrim was talking to - he's the only otherr person who'd be in the stables with horses at the moment, likely. :)

I'll read it through for real this time and I'll tell you if he's in character or not.

EDIT: It looks fine. I'll go ahead and post in answer. :D

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Kara has answered your Balvir, Nerindel. :)

[Nerindel]

Ok I have added Æðelhild's post. Thought I better give her a breather and a chance for Eodwine to speak before she went on. ;)

Thanks Kath, Great stuff guys.

Foley I really do think Javan and Matrim will really get on. :D

[littlemanpoet]

Sorry about the delay; I haven't been around since Friday about noon.

Lhuna, post # 930 has been incorporated into post # 927 and may now be deleted.

Reminder: Gondorian's refer to those who live in Rohan as "Rohirrim"; those who live in Rohan refer to themselves as "Eorlingas".

Okay, I've posted. What a tangle! Nerindel, tell me if my post's question is unanswerable. I can change it. I didn't expect to go there, but that's just the way Eodwine thinks.

[littlemanpoet]

How close are we to concluding this Day? Are there any more posts that need to be written for toDay? Seems like there's plenty going on but people are too busy with RL to post. Who knows what the U.S. holiday might do to scramble things even more? Anyway, will it be possible to wrap up toDay with one more post from each of you (who wants to)?

[Folwren]

Elempi,

I know not what needs to be accomplished. I know that I am willing to write where anyone else is writing...so, if Nerindel writes for Matrim, I'll write back, but if we move forward, no harm done on my part.

And as for the holiday, I'm going to Grandma's and if all goes well, her internet will be up and working as well as usual. So we can be hopeful.

Happy Thanksgiving, folks.

-- Folwren

[Thinlómien]

I've been terribly busy lately and haven't been able to post here. I really don't know what I was thinking when I decided I could write in three RPGs and an inn at the same time... :D I'd love to write something quite soon but before that I maybe have to reread everything, I must say I'm quite confused with all this Adelhild-business... (Modtryth and Cnebba don't know anything of it, either, but I still think I should be a bit more informed.) I hope I'll be able to write something this weekend or something like that...

You've been writing great posts, everyone. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Modtryth doesn't have to know what's going on with Æðelhild. It might be interesting to have some interaction with someone who DOESN'T know anything about it. :)

[Folwren]

Nerindil, I love your posts! They're so interesting to read - I'm so glad you're here writing again. :D

I just wanted to say that.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'm still waiting for Nerindel to post Æðelhild's reply to Eodwine. Until that happens I can't really post for Eodwine unless their conversation gets interrupted by some event, which I suppose I can create. Okay, if Nerindel has not posted by the end of tomorrow (Thursday), I'll create an interruption until Nerindel is ready to proceed with this storyline.

Nerindel, if you know you can't post by the end of tomorrow, please let me know so we can figure out a way to move forward.

[Folwren]

You must forgive me, all, for causing a stir, but I believe, Elempi, I have made your interruption for you.

I apologize for its length. I wanted to do the leading up to it proper like.

Enjoy, and don't let Javan get killed...not yet...he might be later by his brother or Eodwine or Leof or whoever else gets him first, but I don't want him, well - you'll see.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Aiiii the little prankster is making it hard for the mead hall folks to want to keep him around.

Funny, I was thinking fire too, but in the kitchen; but that's already been done. This is better.

One thing: Rowenna cannot be where you have her for I have her elsewhere in an as yet unwritten post. Make it Ginna or Kara or Modtryth and you're fine, I hope.

[Folwren]

Aiiii the little prankster is making it hard for the mead hall folks to want to keep him around.

Yes, yes, I fear he is, but he's expendable to me, so I can risk that.

One thing: Rowenna cannot be where you have her for I have her elsewhere in an as yet unwritten post. Make it Ginna or Kara or Modtryth and you're fine, I hope.

Okedokie. That's fine. I can change it.

-- Folwren

[Nerindel]

Hey, Sorry I didn't get back with Æðelhild's post sooner, me and my daughter were unwell, but we're ok now and I'm back!;)

Lmp I added a reply for Æðelhild to my last post for Matrim and it should not affect what you have already written, and after recruiting the eavesdropping
Rowenna to help vacate the rooms she is alerting Thornden.

Folwren, I love it, great post, I just can't help having Matrim jumping right in there to the rescue.

Yes I am afraid he can sometimes be that impulsive. Balvir is the more level headed of the two and will do pretty much anything asked as long as it doesn't take him to far from Æðelhild, just remember no one but Eodwine and perhaps Rowenna should know that Matrim and Balvir are with Æðel.

[Folwren]

Hey, Sorry I didn't get back with Æðelhild's post sooner, me and my daughter were unwell, but we're ok now and I'm back!;)

Oh dear...if I had known, I probably wouldn't have leaped in so quickly with trouble...oh well, this seems exciting enough. :D

Folwren, I love it, great post, I just can't help having Matrim jumping right in there to the rescue.

Yes I am afraid he can sometimes be that impulsive. Balvir is the more level headed of the two and will do pretty much anything asked as long as it doesn't take him to far from Æðelhild, just remember no one but Eodwine and perhaps Rowenna should know that Matrim and Balvir are with Æðel.

Oh no, that's great! I used him in the last post, some - it's him who Javan saw before going half, or mostly, unconscious.

And, yes, I remember that no one but Eodwine knows they're connected. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

If anybody gets to posting next before I do, Eodwine will immediately begin freeing horses. Flíthaf, meanwhile, will be bucking and kicking in his stall, roaring his fury trying to break free of his tethers. Will he be successful? Will the fire reach him first? ........

[Folwren]

I don't believe the horses are tied in their stalls, just so you know.

Aaaannddd...if Flithaf dies, neither I nor Javan will forgive myself. Can't wait to find out. :p :D

[Firefoot]

Sorry I haven't been entirely active lately (for a long lately...) - but this is much too intense a situation to pass up!

[Folwren]

K, I have on question. Can...that is to say, May the stables be saved? In a story, anything can happen.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Loose hay, lots of wod, open air, a raging fire as so far described, the nearest water all the way around the back of the guest wing of the place. And most everybody's energies are so far concerned with saving the horses, hang the stables. The only way that the stables can realistically be saved is to have a sudden and very hard downpour. How has the weather been described so far?

At any rate, we're going to be leaving Edoras behind soon anyway, so what difference does it make?

EDIT: Okay, I read your post now, Foley. Key question #1: "How long does it take Thornden to create manhandled order compared to how long it takes for the already raging fire to consume the stable?" I had forgotten about the water in the troughs, but that would admittedly not last long at all. Key Question #2: how long a line does it take, and how many people will it take to make the line, and how many buckets? I have my doubts.

[Folwren]

Well, I had hoped some...but I guess what you say makes sense. However, if the hay was not altogether loose, if it were baled, would it make much difference? P'raps not. If if they hay were slightly damp, it could account for the thick smoke described in the posts, but not provide much flame. However, this sort of fire is dangerous, too, because it is difficult to put out 'damp fires' and it is often deceitful...when you think it's out, it's not and it smolders and lights again...

Weather has not been described, to my knowledge.

At any rate, we're going to be leaving Edoras behind soon anyway, so what difference does it make?

Well, the most difference I see it making is the gravity of what Javan's done. If the stables aren't completely destroyed, then to my mind, he just might not be in as much trouble. On the other hand, if they're burned down to the ground, or rendered useless, then I imagine people will be a bit more upset with him.

Key question #1: "How long does it take Thornden to create manhandled order compared to how long it takes for the already raging fire to consume the stable?"

Not sure, actually. I was hoping not too long. And I was hoping the fire wouldn't burn too quickly, but I have little experience with such thing. I know how firewood burns when its old, dead, and brittle, but...well...I don't know.

Key Question #2: how long a line does it take, and how many people will it take to make the line, and how many buckets? I have my doubts.

I wasn't sure how many buckets to make it. I said ten or twelve, but that could be incorrect. I couldn't make it too terribly many buckets - how many do they keep around the place? As for the men? I didn't think about it that indepthly. Sorry. :confused:

So, what I gather from your post - No, the stables may not be saved.

[littlemanpoet]

The stables, residence wing, and Hall make up an enclosed courtyard. The well is near the Alder Court. So what looks like a final stall, on the map, must be a walk-through end, opening out to both west and east. It's 20 feet from the end of the stables to the back/paddock along the west side of the residence wing (I detest calling it such a modern term). It's another 50 feet around the back, between the paddock and the building, to the well. 70 feet total is the shorest distance. That would require, at perhaps 5 feet per person, 14 people at the very least. With 12 buckets going back and forth, the buckets spend probably a minute each in transit one way; what's left after all the sloshing gets dumped on the raging fire, then the bucket takes another minute to make its way along the confused line (buckets coming from both directions) to get filled with water. Only way to make this work is for there to be about 100 buckets. Thornden's plan, well meaning as it is, is doomed to failure, because the entire place simply is not designed to withstand a fire. Worse, since the stables are connected to the residential wing, it's a great danger that the fire will spread right into the guest quarters. Once Eodwine has his head, this will be his main priority. I'll write a post accordingly.

The attachment is the latest Eorling Mead Hall layout.

As for Javan, once Eodwine learns that he is responsible for setting the fire, especially from trying out Falco's pipe in secret, it doesn't matter what state the stables are in. The lad is altogether too irresponsible to have around; not to mention dangerous.

[Folwren]

A-ah. Okay. That'll have to work, then. I hope you're not terribly displeased. lol.

As for Javan's fate, very well. I had figured it must be something like that (at least). After all, this is a rather serious thing.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Nerindel, I'm counting on your Matrim to find Javan where he is. And if you don't, hopefully someone else will. :rolleyes:

Elempi, what should happen next? Should we wait for Firefoot and Nerindel and anyone else who happens to come by in the mean time to post before going on and finishing the poor stables off?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I think so. In my last post I considered narrating the end-game, but decided to hold off. Let's see what a day or two brings. Nerindel? Firefoot? Noggie? Lommy? Lhuna?

Firefoot! What a post! (I didn't get a chance to read it until now) Please don't kill off Léof! What's going to happen? :eek:

:D

[Folwren]

Okay, Elempi, I agree - we'll hold off a couple days.

Firefoot! What a post! (I didn't get a chance to read it until now) Please don't kill off Léof! What's going to happen? :eek:

My thoughts exactly. :( Though, I have read the post all the way through.

-- Folwren

[Thinlómien]

Ooh! This is so exciting. :D Great posts, everyone.

I think so. In my last post I considered narrating the end-game, but decided to hold off. Let's see what a day or two brings. Nerindel? Firefoot? Noggie? Lommy? Lhuna?I won't be able to do anything before early next week. If there's something I could post and I have time to post, I might write something, but don't count on that...

[Firefoot]

Kill him off? :eek: Have no worries!

[Iras Sabir]

I was wondering what it took to start RP on this level? I am a old hand at RPs, but i've never been on this site before.

[littlemanpoet]

This is a more controlled rp environment than you may find at some sites. You're required to start at The Shire forum. Read the rules ("stickies") and then you can post in The Golden Perch forum. Contact Piosenniel if you have any questions. Good luck! :)

[Lhunardawen]

I'm going to be very busy this week. We have a university-wide caroling competition on Friday, which means we'll have practices everyday, plus I'll be having a couple of exams. I'm sorry to be missing all this. :(

I need an early morning (game time) for a post for Ginna, but I'll probably just have that editted in if a new day begins while I'm absent.

[Folwren]

I do understand that if Thornden stops Leof from saving Herefola he may never be forgiven, but I'm willing to put up with that...I guess.

Anyway, there are several things that could happen - Eodwine could stop Thornden, or Leof could be faster than Thornden thought and already be on his way out with a horse, or Leof could have already passed out, or something else that I'm not thinking of and someone else comes up with could happen and I'd be more than happy.

By the way, before Leof came in, Javan let out three horses, I believe, and just let them run free, so maybe Leof miscounted or didn't realize he had done that? I just wanted to throw that out there in case Firefoot didn't realize it.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

:D I'll post soon having Eodwine brood upon the fact that he has not one but two foolish heros under his command. :D

[Folwren]

Yay. :rolleyes:

I at least have the excuse that Thornden isn't thinking exactly straight and so isn't entirely as foolish as may be assumed. ;)

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Thornden isn't thinking exactly straight and so isn't entirely as foolish as may be assumed. And foolishness is....what? ;) (snicker) Just remember, the beginning of wisdom is to stop wincing about one's foolish deeds and start laughing instead; it means you're not taking yourself too seriously anymore.

[Firefoot]

By the way, before Leof came in, Javan let out three horses, I believe, and just let them run free, so maybe Leof miscounted or didn't realize he had done that? I just wanted to throw that out there in case Firefoot didn't realize it. I knew he let out at least one, I counted but I don't know if I picked up on three. I tried to account for all the horses, but I don't think we ever established how many exactly are in the stable.

Hmmmm.

[Folwren]

I'm pretty sure he let out three. And I don't think we've ever specified how many horses there were in the stable, either. *shrug*

And, Elempi, it is quite true - both Thornden and I do take ourselves far to serously. ;)

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

If we ever established how many were in the stable, I don't remember it. Suffice it to say that Herofola was still in there and Léof rushed in after her, and Thornden rushed in after him. Maybe I ought to have Eodwine rush in after Thornden. Wouldn't that make a party? :D

[littlemanpoet]

I've been waiting for either Firefoot or Foley to post their next bit regarding the fire in the stables. Any chance of that happening soon?

[Folwren]

I can post whenever, but I was waiting on Firefoot because I really don't know what she was planning to do with Leof and the horse. Sorry. I'll do whatever anyone wants me to.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Firefoot? Can you post?

[Firefoot]

Argh, sorry.

I'll see what I can do - it'll probably be tomorrow though...

[Folwren]

K, Firefoot...what do you want to happen now? I don't rightly know how to continue. Any ideas or preferences how you want this to go? You realize the huge danger Leof just put himself in, running into a smal stall with a terrified horse kicking the life out of the very walls around him...must be kicking pretty hard to get life outa them, wot, wot?

Erm, yes. Anyway. What are your thoughts?

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

I honestly don't have a preference, and yes I realize that Leof just did something incredibly foolish. Whatever you think Thornden is most likely to do next is fine with me... I'd probably prefer it if Leof didn't get knocked out by the horse though.

[Folwren]

Tough post, but it's done. I feel so guilty, too. I tried hard to save the horse, but I realized...if a horse is that frightened and didn't allow himself to be caught, then even if it did escape from the stall, what were the chances it'd find its way out? I didn't see much chance. I'm sorry, Leof. :(

However...Elempi has often told me that conflict is good in stories. I figure this'll provide a lot of conflict for Leof and Thornden. *sigh*

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

Great post, Folwren.

I hate to say it but I'm going to be gone for the next week (traveling for Christmas....) and without computer access.

[Folwren]

Well, I'll try not to be selfish and will sincerely wish you a most happy vacation and a very, very happy Christmas. :)

We'll miss you, but don't think of us and have lots of fun!

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Very well done, my friends.

I think that we shall assume that Matrim found Javan and carried him out.

I'll post sometime soon. I'm on vacation and have a computer handy.

[Folwren]

I think that we shall assume that Matrim found Javan and carried him out.

Thank you, that sounds wonderful. :D

I will post in time, too, for Javan. I don't have anything at present to do for Thornden...so I'll wait on him until someone else has posted or things have moved on slightly. We'll see.

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Kata
Wrote Kath and tried to change it to Kara? I quite like it though.

By the way guys, this is all brilliant. Poor, poor Javan.

[littlemanpoet]

Wrote Kath and tried to change it to Kara? I quite like it though.

Ack. Nice to see you're still following it. ;) I'll go fix. I actually forgot your character's actual name and didn't bother to check. :rolleyes:

[Folwren]

About the saddles...I figured that in Rohan, men would know what would be in a stable and what would be necessary and all, so at least one or two men could reasonable have run in and saved a few, I thought. If you think I'm wrong, we'll have to figure something else.

About Javan...I said earlier that I didn't care really what happened to him or if he's sent home...but Javan does, so he's giving it all he's got to stay there.

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Oh definitely following it. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Good characterization, Foley. Javan is consistent if nothing else. :)

And suddenly Eodwine has had a thought I had not expected of him, and the plot makes yet another twist.

So before this current Day is over, Thornden and Eodwine will have one more exchange. Perhaps a PM post is in order, if we can accomplish it quickly? Or would you prefer to just post for Thornden and have me post for Eodwine and be done?

[Folwren]

Let's do a PM post. I can do it quickly, I believe. I'll write the beginning...of Thornden coming to find Eodwine, and send it to you by PM. I've no idea what Eodwine has thought of, so I won't be able to go past Thornden arriving. :)

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Alrighty. I believe I'm done for this Day.

[littlemanpoet]

As am I.

My plan, if there are no protests, is to skip to two weeks from this Day. Thus we will have to figure out just what it was Eodwine and Thornden ended up deciding about Javan, and what that means for the entire House. This also means that the next Day is going to be at Scarburg; in fact, I'd like to make it the very first Day at Scarburg, where the traveling party will find things far less desirable than hoped. As in the place looted, burned, and so forth when they arrive. By whom, is hardly prosecutable, but no doubt the local citizenry trying to gain at the expense of Sorn, or so they think of it, not willing to place too much trust in this new Eorl. Should be fun! Lots of planning and what-not to do.

Thoughts?

[Folwren]

I think it'll be fine if we skip forward two weeks... Although I really am wanting to figure out fully what happens to Javan. How shall that be done?

I have no further thoughts than that. I think coming to Scarburg and finding the place looted will have to be played by ear, because at this point, I've no idea how my characters, at least, will react and whatnot.

Are we going to be able to meet any new and diverse characters there, I wonder?

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

Well, I'm home and all caught up - great writing! I'll probably have a post up tomorrow.

[littlemanpoet]

Eodwine's thought will have firmed up and he'll want to go ahead with his plan to keep Javan around, but he'll make sure Thornden is okay with it. It entails getting various and sundry of the men and women of the House to either supervise or teach Javan such that he has no time alone, period, except in the safety of his own room, I suppose. I would expect that Eorl's folk will protest, or maybe not; after all, a few of them are used to raising kids, and what's one more amongst the rest? - - - although Javan is a mite bit older than the others except for Lys. But Lys is responsible. Hmmm.... there's always Falco who doesn't seem to have much to do, but s'pose he ends up getting the kid in more trouble instead of less? :p

[Folwren]

Eodwine's thought will have firmed up and he'll want to go ahead with his plan to keep Javan around, but he'll make sure Thornden is okay with it.

I think I'll make Thornden alright with it. ;)

It entails getting various and sundry of the men and women of the House to either supervise or teach Javan such that he has no time alone, period, except in the safety of his own room, I suppose. I would expect that Eorl's folk will protest, or maybe not; after all, a few of them are used to raising kids, and what's one more amongst the rest? - - - although Javan is a mite bit older than the others except for Lys. But Lys is responsible.

Perhaps we should do the next day, just to give the writer's of the said Eorl's folk a chance to put their character's thoughts and protests or whatever into words? Just a thought.

Hmmm.... there's always Falco who doesn't seem to have much to do, but s'pose he ends up getting the kid in more trouble instead of less? :p

Ha! Knowing Falco, I bet he would get the kid into more trouble. That could be extremely interesting.....can't help but laugh.

Poor Javan, though, has an easy enough time getting into trouble on his own without Falco's help. ;)

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

I apologize in advance for being impatient.

What is happening next? Leaping forward two weeks? Or is Firefoot posting first? More reactions on the fire? Going forward one day? I'm not in charge...just making suggestions. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I thought I had a post up here, requesting responses from various writers. What happened to it????

Okay, I'll try again. Let's say that Eodwine has posed the question to all the characters in the Hall. He'll want responses from them. Here's the question: "Will you agree to share responsibility for Javan? If so, how many hours per day, and what will you do with him?"

Eodwine needs answers from Thornden, Kara, Ginna, Léof (yes him too), Stigend, Modtryth, Rowenna, Garstan, Garwine, Nain, Frodides, and any other characters I have failed to remember. So that means I need to hear from Foley, Kath, Lhuna, Firefoot, Noggie, Lommie, and Formy (hello? Formy?).

[Firefoot]

For the time remaining at the hall, I don't think Leof's really sure what all he's supposed to be doing (much less what he would do with Javan)... they'll probably just be kept in the paddock for the time being, since everyone's moving out to Scarburg? And some will have to be rounded up that got loose.

Who at the hall has a horse? There's Aethel (Leof), Flithaf (Eodwine), Javan's horse, Falco's pony... I think Ginna brought a horse? and the hall probably had a few for general use. And I think there were some boarded? There was a discussion about that a while ago. Those would probably now be relocated...

Anyhow, I think Leof would agree to take Javan for a couple hours a day once they got to scarburg - for the time being, he's going to want some space.

[Folwren]

I thought I had a post up here, requesting responses from various writers. What happened to it????

That's kind of funny, Elempi. Whilst checking 'Who's Online' I saw you were replying to this thread, but then, next thing I knew, you were offline and there was no post.

I'll give the question some thought and respond for Thornden later tonight or tomorrow sometime.

[Folwren]

Alright...I've been thinking about this, and Thornden's first initial answer will probably be that Javan should not be forced one everybody. If he can be convinced that it's the only way and it's still better than sending him home and people don't mind (this is still uncertain - waiting for other writer's to make their answers), then he'll agree. He can work with Javan for however long as possible (he'll feel really responsible for him, I imagine, and somewhat guilty of other people have to watch him for too long) and he'll teach him what he does - book keeping, taking care of the weapons, handling weapons, and whatever else he does...

Hope that suffices. I think Thornden's rather unsure of this whole idea.

[littlemanpoet]

I think I had a post prepared but needed to get off line because my wife needed to make a phone call (I still only have dial-up) and forgot to post the post. :p

Anyway, I'm still waiting to hear from a bunch of you. Thanks for responding, Firefoot & Foley.

Man, if I were Léof I would want absolutely nothing to do with the little troublemaker. ;)

[Folwren]

Man, if I were Léof I would want absolutely nothing to do with the little troublemaker. ;)

Good heavens, neither would I!!! Poor Leof!

Your last post was good, by the way, Firefoot. I wanted to tell you that, but I haven't been spreading enough Reputation around lately. :o

I'm posting again tonight. I figured since my post didn't have anything to do with any other characters and we were still on this Night, I'd go ahead and do it.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Great posts, both of you. And I did have enough rep spread around. :D

Well, anybody who wants to post a conclusion of the Day, feel free, because I'm going to wait until we hear from a few more of our writers before we jump ahead 2 weeks.

[Lhunardawen]

I'm here! :) I'm so sorry I've been absent for the past weeks. Please give me a bit of time to catch up with the posts I've missed.

Instead of double-posting... As for your question, Elempi... I'm sure you haven't forgotten that Ginna's in Eodwine's keeping at all because she, too, had been a wayward brat. Would you really trust her to school him? ;)

But then I think Ginna has improved in the almost two months she had been in the Hall - at least that's what I want to think.

And instead of triple-posting.. (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=534885&postcount=2098). If anyone else had wanted to post before my post brought the time to very late that night (or very early the next morning), please let me know.

[littlemanpoet]

Phew! I'm glad that turned out to be a dream! :eek: You had me really worried about how you were using my characters. ;)

[Lhunardawen]

Phew! I'm glad that turned out to be a dream! :eek: You had me really worried about how you were using my characters. ;)
:D

I wanted to squeeze everyone in, but I realised I didn't know what the others would do apart from coming in and giving Ginna a disapproving look.

[Folwren]

I wanted to squeeze everyone in, but I realised I didn't know what the others would do apart from coming in and giving Ginna a disapproving look.

What's she feeling down about? Or guilty about, rather... Is it all on account of Harreld? Poor Ginna.

[Lhunardawen]

What's she feeling down about? Or guilty about, rather... Is it all on account of Harreld? Poor Ginna.
Uh-huh. Poor Ginna, indeed.

Oh, by the way, did anyone see the cat's colour and claw length? ;)

[Folwren]

I have no idea what cat you're referring to, but with the luck around the Mead Hall lately, I'd guess it was a black cat with inch long claws. (What's the claw length got to do with anything? I heard black cats are bad luck, but I don't recall any legend about how long their claws have to be...)

[Folwren]

I sent Nogrod and Lommy both a PM and Nogrod said they'd both check into here and the game thread sometime in the next day. :D

[Nogrod]

Okay, I'll try again. Let's say that Eodwine has posed the question to all the characters in the Hall. He'll want responses from them. Here's the question: "Will you agree to share responsibility for Javan? If so, how many hours per day, and what will you do with him?"

Eodwine needs answers from Thornden, Kara, Ginna, Léof (yes him too), Stigend, Modtryth, Rowenna, Garstan, Garwine, Nain, Frodides, and any other characters I have failed to remember.We'll try to update ourselves tomorrow with Lommy and then give out votes for it. That's a promise. But do not hesitate to write on our behalf if tomorrow is the time for posting to you (timezones...) ... We are flexible with our stances... well at least I am and I think Lommy is too. :)

[littlemanpoet]

What's she feeling down about? Or guilty about, rather... Is it all on account of Harreld? Poor Ginna.

Wadaya mean, poor Ginna? :mad: ;) - after leading Harreld on like that! :p

Thanks for checking in, Noggie and Lommy; and thanks especially to Foley for taking the initiative. If I ever need to move on, I think I know who to pass this rpg on to....

[Folwren]

Wadaya mean, poor Ginna? :mad: ;) - after leading Harreld on like that!

Well, I can say poor Harreld, too, but you haven't written about him having nightmares. :p I feel sorry for both of them.

If I ever need to move on, I think I know who to pass this rpg on to....

Oh, don't even suggest such an awful thing! The very idea of you leaving makes me gloomy.

You're welcome, too, by the way. I'm too impatient and far too busybody to just sit back and let someone else take the initiative. (And if they allowed another face, I'd put a winking fellow here...)

[littlemanpoet]

I have received word from Noggie & Lommy, and await word only from Kath and Formy. I don't expect it from Formy.

[Kath]

Oh my apologies! If it's about going to Scarburg then Kara and Frodides will come along for the ride. :)

[Folwren]

No. It's about this (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=541529&postcount=2191) post and everything that's been going on in the game thread. :)

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Oh righty ho, well Kara and Frodides would both have him for a couple of hours. I'd say shared though as they're generally in the same place at the same time! So 2 hours doing kitchen duty. Washing dishes, peeling vegetables, maybe learning to cook.

[Thinlómien]

Who at the hall has a horse? There's Aethel (Leof), Flithaf (Eodwine), Javan's horse, Falco's pony... I think Ginna brought a horse? and the hall probably had a few for general use. And I think there were some boarded? There was a discussion about that a while ago. Those would probably now be relocated...Modtryth and Stigend have the old mare, Snowstreak.

As to what Modtryth could do with Javan, she wouldn't mind having someone helping her with the shopping stuff. (Bearing or loading the goods etc.) Annoying work yet that would get him to town from time to time, so not the nastiest of duties for a child. Of the nastier duties, I think Modtryth & Ginna & Rowenna would welcome his aid in doing the laundry and cleaning the hall, but that might be too much of "women's work", or what do you think?

[littlemanpoet]

The more demeaning and drudgelike, the better. :p Thanks for all your replies.

Okay, I'll post the new Day with thoughts back to court day (which is the day after the last one we've written).

Post is up. I've also updated the Timeline: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=517500&postcount=1595

[littlemanpoet]

:D ROFL! :D Foley, that was perfect. I cracked up. I'd rep you but, you know.... ;)

[Folwren]

Wow. I'm glad you found it so amusing. I wasn't sure if Javan should even dare say it. It was honestly the first thing I thought of when you described the burnt ruins and it took me a full day to decide whether or not I should write it. I'm worried how Eodwine will take it. :p

[Folwren]

What needs to be happen for us to move on? Elempi, are you waiting for more posters?

[littlemanpoet]

Yes. Though I certainly do appreciate your contributions, Foley, I really don't want this to become a 2 person rpg.

Do I need to start requesting individual players to post?

[Thinlómien]

Do I need to start requesting individual players to post?Hopefully not... I think i could write something either today, tomorrow, or during the weekend, but I don't think I have anything very constructive to write. So should I just write a short-ish reaction post, or should I actually do something to move on? Maybe it's better if we don't move on just yet, but wait a few more (or one more) reaction(s)...?

[littlemanpoet]

Reactions and movement can happen at the same time. In fact, people can write reflections on their characters' initial reactions as they move on. So post, please, if you have an idea.

[Thinlómien]

Reactions and movement can happen at the same time. In fact, people can write reflections on their characters' initial reactions as they move on. So post, please, if you have an idea.I actually don't have any ideas, but surely I may come up with something and if not, well, it would maybe be good to have someone else's than only Eodwine and Javan's reactions to the sight? For the things to actually move on, Eodwine needs to react to Javan's words, or something must prevent him from replying (or reacting in any way)... But I think I could write something today.

[Folwren]

Understood, Elempi. :) I'm willing to be patient and wait if it means other people posting.

[Thinlómien]

I must say this looks interesting.

And poor Léof...

[Nogrod]

I'll post something either tomorrow or the day after.

I'll have some time in my hands now - not too much though until the beginning of February but anyway.

Don't be afraid lmp, there are more than two around. They just sometimes have their hands full of this and that.

Btw. is Celuien still around or is someone else playing Garstan? Just asking if I need to involve Garstan with my post with Stigend as they kind of form a pair anyhow.

[littlemanpoet]

Putting Garstan with Stigend was intentional on my part. Celuien is on extended absence and has graciously given us permission to use her characters as needed. In return we have (I hope) just as graciously promised to keep them in character. So please do write for both Stigend and Garstan, Noggie.

I was going to have Eodwine assign specific parties, but I figured I'd let all of you choose who your characters would work with. If you need a reminder as to what characters are available, please look at the discussion thread's first post and click on the link to "characters". I just updated it within the last couple weeks.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

Is everyone supposed to set off exploring before starting the other two jobs of beginning the kitchen and securing the animals? That is what the last thing Eodwine said sounded like, but I'm not certain.

I'll try to write a post for Thornden, but I'm not completely sure what he's supposed to be doing.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

In my post Stigend suggests they should make a baker. Here's (http://images.google.fi/imgres?imgurl=http://www.norwestcompany.com/strinzebakersketch.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.norwestcompany.com/shelter.htm&h=228&w=517&sz=4&hl=fi&start=136&um=1&tbnid=1UO1dTmwFJlMHM:&tbnh=58&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcanvas%2Blean-to%2B%26start%3D120%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um% 3D1%26hl%3Dfi%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:fi:official%26hs%3Du09%26sa% 3DN) a picture of a differene between a lean-to and a baker. (second last from the bottom...)

I was thinking of a real large one.

In the 70's when I was a kid we had one at the place where we constructed our family's summer cottage. It was there for two years I think (it was taken down for the winter but re-erected the next year). It was big enough for some twenty people to sleep under cosily.

[Celuien]

I'm lurking and alive (dead) in the shadows, but between work, trying to buy a house, and trying to maintain some personal life, I'm still too swamped to write. :( The hall looks like it's had lots of interesting developments - I'll try to keep up with everything in case things calm down and I can get back here at some point. Thanks for carrying along the characters. :)

*retreats to a dark corner*

[littlemanpoet]

Great idea on the baker, Noggie. Go for it. I see that Eodwine has already given his approval, which you have now saved me the trouble of writing. I loved the humor in your post, too. "Adjusting our spirits to our duties." :D

Foley, I've fixed the end of my post to clarify that we build shelter and cooking facilities first.

It's good to hear from you, Celuien. :) Here's hoping that your crazy life gains more order and leisure so that you can rejoin us.

[Nogrod]

So nice to hear from you Celuien! And all the best for you!

I'll be more than happy to carry Garstan with Stigend and I guess Lommy will love to use the kids - as I will too. I'm indeed already thinking of using the boys with the construction of the baker as they could be the "apes" to climb the trees and attach the ropes there... Maybe Stigend could call for Javan to join the venture as well?

Just tell us if we do something with them you think is out of bounds Celuien. And if you have any ideas just let us know about them.

[littlemanpoet]

Eodwine is of course very happy to have various of his House volunteer to take responsibility for Javan. ;)

[Thinlómien]

Just tell us if we do something with them you think is out of bounds Celuien. And if you have any ideas just let us know about them.Totally agreed. And I, too, am glad to see you pop up, Cel. :)

Like Nogrod said, I'll be just happy to carry along the children. Modtryth is after all probably the unofficial "nanny" of the House and surely spends a lot of time, not necessarily with the children, but at least having an eye on them. And as rarely as I do it, I like writing Cnebba very much too and you basically cannot write him without including Garmund and Léodern in some way.

I will have fun having carrying your characters along, but of course, I would have more fun actually writing with you. So hope you can be back sometime, rather sooner than later. :)

[littlemanpoet]

I'm hoping to see some posts that lend to the creativity of you writers, to discover what's out there in the various corners of Scarburg. Any takers?

[Folwren]

Javan'll take up your offer quite happily, but I think he's probably been well picketed by Stigend or Rowenna. ;)

I don't know when I'll be able to post.

[Nogrod]

Javan'll take up your offer quite happily, but I think he's probably been well picketed by Stigend or Rowenna. ;)Foley: Do take Javan for a walk around and don't mind the two wishing to see him work. Stigend and Garstan may wonder where he is but if he's away then no can do. :)


I think either myself or Lommy could take the children to have an outing as well - and maybe Stigend and Garstan will have to check some surroundings for additional building materials as well...

[Kath]

And Kara and maybe Ginna could have wander for some wood for the kitchen fire, if none was brought with that is.

[Folwren]

Foley: Do take Javan for a walk around and don't mind the two wishing to see him work. Stigend and Garstan may wonder where he is but if he's away then no can do. :)

Oh! Oh! Are you giving me permission to get Javan into anothe scrape??

[Nogrod]

Oh! Oh! Are you giving me permission to get Javan into anothe scrape??:D

I just meant that I only voiced the possibility of S & G taking him to the "workforce" in the discussion thread so nothing has been said in the actual thread about him yet...

[Folwren]

I have not the slightest idea what is going to happen next with Javan. I'll let one or two other people post before continuing with him.

Let me know if anything needs to be latered with Stigend or with the preparations for building the baker. I've little idea how it will actually be done. I hope what I wrote was fitting.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Let me know if anything needs to be latered with Stigend or with the preparations for building the baker. I've little idea how it will actually be done.That looks fine! Someone should disturb the ruins that much as to check whether the ridgepole is still usable as that long logs are scarce...

I can write that possibly on Sunday but feel free others to solve that if you wish.

[littlemanpoet]

Rowenna for all her secrecy and eavesdropping has a rather rigid sense of right and wrong. ;)

[Folwren]

Blamed woman. Ruining all my beautiful plans of fun and adventure. ;)

Well, there he is. This should be fun. :rolleyes: Interesting, at least.

[littlemanpoet]

:D Foley, whereas "shut up" gave me fits of laughter, it isn't quite right for Rowenna. So please put this in its place and I'll be happy.

"Of course I do," was the curt rejoinder.

[Folwren]

Half a minute and it will be done. :)

-- Folwren

[Kath]

Well there's something of a post there. I want to try and get hold of Lhuna and see if she has time to write something from Ginna's POV. If not I'll just carry it on in a bit.

[Folwren]

Alrighty. This is an interesting situation, as I predicted. ;) I'll wait for a couple other people to post before posting next. I don't know what to post until quite later in the evening of this Day, actually...as of now. I have little doubt something will come up for me to do before then.

I've one question, Elempi - how is Javan tied up? Is he spread eagled? Or otherwise?

[littlemanpoet]

He has been trussed up between two trees to keep his hands apart. Therefore he will be unable to untie himself. Same for his legs. All he can do until he is confronted again by Eodwine is think upon his plight. ;)

[Folwren]

Aye. He'll think about that a lot...and about other things.

I half wish you didn't tell me that Eodwine was going to come back to him again. I half knew it, but now that it's a certainty, I'm going to bite my nails and worry about it until it happens. And that might be a while! :eek:

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Aye. He'll think about that a lot...and about other things.

I half wish you didn't tell me that Eodwine was going to come back to him again. I half knew it, but now that it's a certainty, I'm going to bite my nails and worry about it until it happens. And that might be a while! :eek:

-- FolwrenSnicker. :D

[Firefoot]

Leof was placed in charge of the "horses and other livestock"... what else is there? A cow, I think, and chickens??

And is Leof on his own, or would someone like to help? Did Lys come with (Tara hasn't logged on for a good month though...)?

I'm going to be working on a post now, but can edit if my assumptions are wrong.

[Folwren]

Snicker. :D

Oh! You're so mean!

Firefoot, Lys would have come, unless I am very greatly mistaken. He's Thornden's charge. He should be able to help you some. And pretty much anybody who's not working on something that has to be done just then will probably be able to lend a hand - they're in Rohan, I imagine everyone can handle a horse briefly.

Thornden wants to help construct the baker and the kitchen, otherwise I'd offer his services. Sorry.

-- Folwren