Turin and Maeglin?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

So you're saying that Tolkien hated his characters, as he put many of them through unfortunate situations and/or killed them off? Not only that, but he set the character of Lomion as the only elf who aided Morgoth.

That's literally what authors do, though. We do very nasty things to our characters - because we love the way they interact with their world. M(a)eglin persisted through every version of the Gondolin story; Tolkien clearly loved what he did for the story. But in the same way, he loved what Morgoth did for the story.

If you're imagining authors treat our characters the way we'd want them to be treated if they were real people... yeah, no. Not in a million years.

Originally Posted by Urwen

Not only that, but Eol was imprisoned too, and then they captured his son, thousands of years later.

Wasn't that just a fairly crackpot theory either you or I came up with to say how it could be possible for Maeglin to have actual (rather than just rumoured) Orc blood? I don't think there's any even marginal textual evidence for that.

hS

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

That's literally what authors do, though. We do very nasty things to our characters - because we love the way they interact with their world. M(a)eglin persisted through every version of the Gondolin story; Tolkien clearly loved what he did for the story. But in the same way, he loved what Morgoth did for the story.

If you're imagining authors treat our characters the way we'd want them to be treated if they were real people... yeah, no. Not in a million years.

I get what you mean. I love torturing Maeglin in my stories. And Maedhros. And Feanor. And many others.

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Wasn't that just a fairly crackpot theory either you or I came up with to say how it could be possible for Maeglin to have actual (rather than just rumoured) Orc blood? I don't think there's any even marginal textual evidence for that.

hS

There is. It is in War of the Jewels book, which is a part of History of Middle Earth series.