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Old 06-13-2019, 03:51 PM   #1
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Are authors nice to their characters? Nope. Just ask Shakespeare. Or George RR Martin.

In the Silmarillion, damn near everybody dies. Maeglin is one of the few who actually deserves it.
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:07 PM   #2
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Are authors nice to their characters? Nope. Just ask Shakespeare. Or George RR Martin.

In the Silmarillion, damn near everybody dies. Maeglin is one of the few who actually deserves it.

How would YOU feel if I were to say YOUR favorite character(s) all deserve to die?
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:24 PM   #3
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How would YOU feel if I were to say YOUR favorite character(s) all deserve to die?
I guess that would depend on whether or not he chose an incestuous traitor as his favorite character.
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:26 PM   #4
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I guess that would depend on whether or not he chose an incestuous traitor as his favorite character.

Yet at the same time he glorifies Turin, who married his sister, which is even worse.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:39 PM   #5
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Yet at the same time he glorifies Turin, who married his sister, which is even worse.
Turin didn’t know it was his sister, and when he found out he was distraught.

Maeglin, on the other hand, had no such regrets and died having sold his city to Morgoth just so he could satisfy his lust on his cousin.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:32 AM   #6
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Turin didn’t know it was his sister, and when he found out he was distraught.

Maeglin, on the other hand, had no such regrets and died having sold his city to Morgoth just so he could satisfy his lust on his cousin.
...and against her will, as well, so it's rape piled on top of incest.
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Old 06-15-2019, 10:26 AM   #7
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Maeglin, on the other hand, had no such regrets and died having sold his city to Morgoth just so he could satisfy his lust on his cousin.
Yes, that sort of "desire" has no noble connotation in Arda. Ar-Pharazon of Numenor went a step further, actually taking his first cousin to wife. Where that stood in place among his myriad sins is debatable, but it certainly didn't help him.
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You don't understand. None of you does understand.....
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[Raises hand] I'm a fan of Maglor, and after his flip to 'no actually we should murder Eonwe's guards and just nick the jewels' he deserved everything he got.

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