WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate

If it's timing was how it was (as stated by Nogrod, when she gave his vote to him), and if Glirdan is a Wolf, then that would be really a logical way to vote for a Wolf

Yeah its timing was as stated by Nog, but it would've been later if my net hadn't died. And as I said I voted Inzil because I suspected him the most. I was pretty sure sally would die, and trust me if I had been a wolf with her, you know which bandwagon my vote would've ended up in.

Originally Posted by Legate

She seems to be going her own way a lot and basically avoiding getting into the "pot"

To be honest I have a hard time seeing why people are so keen on certain issues.

I don't quite get Green's Nog suspicion.

Skippy it's usually no use analysing what a wolf has posted when she already knows she's in trouble. They can split their fellows between different categories in any way whatsoever and will do their best to confuse us and make us waste time speculating on what they meant.

[skip spence]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Skippy it's usually no use analysing what a wolf has posted when she already knows she's in trouble. They can split their fellows between different categories in any way whatsoever and will do their best to confuse us and make us waste time speculating on what they meant.

Maybe that's so. But my point was, at this point on 2 votes, with other ones on 1 I believe, Sally isn't that threatened. Still, she must think her chances of escape are quite good. Quickly it worsened for her and then she would be thinking mostly of damage-control, but at this early stage her main priority would still be escape I think. Not putting another wolf up for the gallows.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by skip spence

Maybe that's so. But my point was, at this point on 2 votes, with other ones on 1 I believe, Sally isn't that threatened. Still, she must think her chances of escape are quite good. Quickly it worsened for her and then she would be thinking mostly of damage-control, but at this early stage her main priority would still be escape I think. Not putting another wolf up for the gallows.

True but quite a lot of people had expressed suspicion of her, if I remember correctly. Not sure if she believed she could survive, but I don't think she could be sure of it either... So yeah if you think you can find something from her posts, go ahead. I personally just think it's mostly useless.

[Aganzir]

I don't think I'm going to change my mind so I might as well vote.

++Inziladun

Simply because I suspect him the most so far, and I want to know his role in order to know which way my suspicions should proceed.

Skippy we never know until we know his role, and that's what I'm aiming at.

I'll go get something to eat and may still check in before going to sleep (or before going to find murderers that currently interest me more than ours; I'm talking about when Mikael Blomkvist och Lisbeth Salander löser gåtan Harriet, for those who know. ) but if not, good night bunnies.

[Nogrod]

(~~~) *grin appearing*

Originally Posted by Agan

I don't quite get Green's Nog suspicion.

She oftentimes wants to be original... like yesterDay with Shasta (she voted Lottie as third on D1 but she did make a number out of her poor concentration and general bad feeling aobut it ). So maybe she just read my comments on Sally in some idiosyncratic fashion. That is interesting thing though: with some of her "analysis" I agreed quite readily and with others I was almost of the opposite opinion. Well that just tells one how we can interpret things differently.

Also I have been a little less in the frontline this time around to be sure (I have been both busy and on D2 over-tired) and maybe that has raised her suspicions... I mean in the end she has not played that many games with me.

Be what it may, I don't find her especially wolvish either.

Her take on Glirdy raises an eyebrow though. She nicely said she suspected him already earlier but now as more and more people have started to think that maybe Glirdy is not that obviously the lynchee of toDay (I mean that general change of mood - if there was one that will last to the end of the Day - happened between her posts I think; so first they were sure Glirdy would go and she had prepared to look good but then she realised he could be saved?). That speculation arises from her add-on that she wouldn't think it bad if we lynched Glirdan; a nice double-move not advancing the lynch of a fellow but still maintaining one's own reputation if the mate got lynched.

But that's speculation that takes quite a lot for granted.

Originally Posted by Inzil

So, regardless of Glirdan's alignment, I'm suspicious. Thanks, Nog.

Heh, right. But if it makes you feel better, you're not the only one...

Lottie might be innocent beoynd any reasonable doubt but she's the only one. Certain deaths might make a few people look quite innocent but even those would be with a "maybe" or "possibly". But to the most around here it actually fits that they are not cleared until proven innocent by their own death or the death of a revealed seer revealing them to us - or the game ending in our favour.

(~~~) *grin vanishing*

[Thinlómien]

Arg, no one's had a look at Izzy's or Sally's posts (in the case of Sally, Day1 posts) and I feel that'd be useful, but I don't have time to do it now because I've used all my day seeing (three different) friends (separately) instead of playing ww and it's midnight and I have to wake up at 9 so I'd like to go to sleep in an hour...

Anyway, at this point, I'm pretty sure I'm going to vote Glirdan. He's my top suspect atm and his death would reveal things, and once he's dead he won't at least be bugging me anymore.

Comments...

Skip is starting to worry me. First he insisted Glirdan was an active part of lynching Sally (which he wasn't), now he's questioning people's motives to vote him and considering the suspicions against him weak. I think I at least have pretty much evidence already, all his interactions with Sally yesterDay plus the things I mentioned in my vote post yesterDay. (I don't get it why it was bad reasoning for a vote. I thought it made a lot of sense, and I had elaborated on most of the points earlier in my long analysis post.) And then on top of that Skip concludes he is not sure about Glirdan, but he's not his top suspect. Fishy. If Glirdan is furry like I assume, I would look at Skip next, but if he's innocent, then I'm just confused.

Nerwen is also starting to worry me. The current situation looks awfully much to me like Sally and Glirdy are two of her fellows and she's doing some pretty drastic moves to make herself look good. I don't have any factual arguments, but somehow the calm rationality in which she presented/presents points against them makes me feel that she knows more than us others, and it's quite disturbing...

I'm totally disagreeing with Shasta over all kinds of things but it actually makes me think he's innocent. No wolf would surely sport such original and unpopular opinions about everything? He seems to think differently than the rest of us.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Anyway, though, my point is that waking up the known innocent from blind suspicion is not a good move for a wolf to make, but it is a good move for an innocent.

I disagree - waking a known innocent up like that would make the wolf seem better, and if the known innocent's suspicions were directed to ward the wolf's fellows, it would be even profitable.

Originally Posted by Greenie

A technical point: getting a wolf lynched usually requires a bandwagon. Just saying.

Love ya! <3<3<3 (that was the cutest thing I've heard anyone say in ww for a while )

Originally Posted by Agan

In theory, the fact that winty got confused about sally's gender suggests he's innocent. But then, the nickname sally is rather feminine...

Yes, in theory, but in a rather lousy theory. I was once wolves with a newbie named xyzzy (anybody remember him?) and I told him he shouldn't know too much of me since we didn't know before at all so I told him not to for example use the name "Lommy" of me before somebody else does etc. He took my advice very seriously and actually a lot further, he pretended he had no idea who the nickname referred to and confused my gender at some point too, so when I was lynched it took quite long for the village to find out he was my fellow because he seemed to know so little of me... So I do not trust ignorant-seeming newbies!

Originally Posted by Agan

I don't quite get Green's Nog suspicion.

She always suspects him, you know.


edit: eww, xed with a lot (everyone after Agan's vote post)

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Skip

It seems unfair to lynch a man unheard.

I heard enough of him yesterDay.

++Glirdan

Seriously though, I'm quite confident about his guilt. And I know I often get it wrong when I'm too confident, but - sorry to say - even if Glirdan dies innocent, it will profit us, or at least me (it'll help me think). But just to flip-flop a bit more, I'll add that I have been right when confident too (Macalaure could testify!) Well, we'll see (hopefully).

Now I'm off to brush my yellow big teeth (aiee that sounded very wolvish, I just thought my teeth are more yellow than white and since I have big-ish front teeth I ended up saying big instead of small... ) and I'll be back to check this thread quickly before I go to sleep just to see if there's anything so important that I have to still reply...


edit: xed with Nog and Shasta