20 Questions on ME

[Galadriel55]

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no, but it's getting a little warmer. :) Law/ban is also on the right track. The approach is right.

[Ironfoot]

Is it the Girdle of Melian?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it enacted by one of the valar?

[Galadriel55]

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far. :)
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.

[Blind Guardian]

Oath?

[Galadriel55]

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far.
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.
Oath - no, but getting closer :p

[Ironfoot]

So it isnt anything really, but just a concept, an idea of it being there. Something akin to an object and a law/ban, but not in the literal sense. Reminds me of *drumrolls* The Doors of Night!

[Blind Guardian]

Oath of...Feänor?

[Galadriel55]

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far.
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.
Oath - no, but getting closer
Doors of Night - no, but also in the right direction.
Oath of Feanor - I said it's not an oath.

Time for another hint, perhaps. There are different kinds of concepts. There are abstract-concepts, like love and belief, that you can't really illustrate or imagine in a physical form; you just understand them (or don't). There are also those that, well, are more physical, like Girdle of Melian and Doors of Night. Although you can't really see/feel/etc them, they have a definite place, or a substence (not in these examples, though), or something else sort-of-physical in them. The thing I'm thinking of is the second kind of concept.
Also, the approach is more correct with the Girdle of Melian and The Doors of Night, but "oath" is closer in the sense of what it consists of...

It is so hard to give clues that aren't going to confuse others but won't give away the answer! Please tell me if you need clarification of this clue, and I'll try my best to give a better explanation.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Created/originated by Iluvatar?

[Galadriel55]

Person - no
Place - no
Is it alive - no
Object - no
Law/ban - no
Natural - good question. No.
Doom/curse - no
Girdle of Melian - no, but its the closest answer so far.
Enacted by a Vala - possibly. I doubt that they were the first ones to ever "use" this.
Oath - no, but getting closer
Doors of Night - no, but also in the right direction.
Oath of Feanor - I said it's not an oath.
Created/originated by Iluvatar - no

[Ironfoot]

Is it...the Void?

[Galadriel55]

Void - no, but another good guess.

This thing doesn't have a specific location, but it can be described with words fairly well. :)

[Blind Guardian]

Timeless Halls?

[Galadriel55]

Timeless Halls - no

What other clues can I give? This is so frustrating!!!
OK, here's another one. This thing is composed of a bunch of other things that we all (or nearly all) use everyday, probably without realizing that we are casually throwing about "small concepts".
For the sake of easier guessing, I'll tell this one right away: this is NOT a place/location concept. That should narrow the search down a bit :).
And remember my previous clue - it can be described with words

[Blind Guardian]

The boundary that keeps the Men out of Valinor?

[Galadriel55]

The boundary that keeps the Men out of Valinor - no.
I meant that "place" is not involved anyhow (except that we can rule out where the thing originated :))

[Blind Guardian]

WHAT ELSE IS THERE?!?!


Oh I give up, what is it?

[Blind Guardian]

Timeless Halls - no

What other clues can I give? This is so frustrating!!!
OK, here's another one. This thing is composed of a bunch of other things that we all (or nearly all) use everyday, probably without realizing that we are casually throwing about "small concepts".
For the sake of easier guessing, I'll tell this one right away: this is NOT a place/location concept. That should narrow the search down a bit :).
And remember my previous clue - it can be described with words

*just saw this*

Oh so it's like a border of something, like Texas and New Mexico...?

That said is this 'border' in/near/general region of Middle-Earth?

[Galadriel55]

It is not a border. A border involves place, being the separation of two places. This does not have anything in common with a place except for the place of origin.

[Blind Guardian]

I hate you.

I just don't know. What is it?

It is made of a whole bunch of small things that we use everyday and it is not in the place that it is in is not the same/unknown...what describes this...? The Walls of the World? Mandos? Ulmo's home?!? The ocean? WHAT?!

[Galadriel55]

I hate you.

Why thank 'ee!

It is made of a whole bunch of small things that we use everyday and it is not in the place that it is in is not the same/unknown

That doesn't make any sense even to me! No wonder you can't guess it! Have I been that bad at giving clues?:(
Just to clarify:
It is not a location/place.
It is a consept.
It is made up of "small concepts" that we use every day.
It can be described with words (this clue is particularly significant!!!)

I'll wait for another few days to see if anyone has more guesses, and then I'll tell what it is.

[Blind Guardian]

Why thank 'ee!



That doesn't make any sense even to me! No wonder you can't guess it! Have I been that bad at giving clues?:(
Just to clarify:
It is not a location/place.
It is a consept.
It is made up of "small concepts" that we use every day.
It can be described with words (this clue is particularly significant!!!)

I'll wait for another few days to see if anyone has more guesses, and then I'll tell what it is.

Well thank you, that helped...


Actually it did!

Is it an illusion? Like...Lammoth (http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Lammoth)?

[Ironfoot]

Foresight?

[Galadriel55]

Both are very good guesses, but no to both (neither foresight not lammoth-echo). I see you got the idea about no-location-significance. Now think - what could one use basically anywhere? (I wouldn't say it is used everywhere, but it could be). Also, there's a very good reason why I said that it could be decribed with words, rather that, let's say, pictures.

[Pitchwife]

Since you keep insisting that it can be described with words, is it perhaps made with words, like e.g. a poem?

[Galadriel55]

Since you keep insisting that it can be described with words, is it perhaps made with words?

THREE CHEERS FOR PITCHWIFE!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it is!!! In fact, the poem guess is quite close - things like this one usually start out as poems, though not always.
And now you know exactly what category to guess from. :)
Good job, Pitch!!!

[Pitchwife]

A prophecy?

[Galadriel55]

Prophecy - no, you were closer with the poem.

[Pitchwife]

A riddle?

[Galadriel55]

riddle - no, poem is still the closest. And as I said, there is a possibility that it is in fact a poem, but I have no evidence of such or otherwise.

[Blind Guardian]

Here's one-what does the Gridle of Milan, poems, and being close have anything to do with one another? No, really...


*sighs* Is it truly like a poem? Is there words in it?
Was it said in LotR?

[Galadriel55]

Yes, it is truly like a poem, and perhaps it is a poem, but no one knows for sure.
Yes it is made with words.
It wasn't specifically said by anyone in LOTR, however, the likes of it were.
The Girdle of Melian was closest before Pitch guessed that it's made with words. :p Now it's replaced by poem.

[Pitchwife]

[...] the Gridle of Milan[...]
Ah, there's nothing like a real Italian pizza hot from the Griddle of Milan!:D

Hm, the purpose of Melian's Girdle (as well as the Doors of Night, which you said was also a good guess) was to keep enemies (or The Enemy) out, so maybe a password?

[Galadriel55]

No, not a password.
Girdle of Melian and Doors of Night were in the right direction because of the "thinking process", not the actual answer.

[Pitchwife]

A magic spell?

[Galadriel55]

Magic spell - no, poem is still the closest. Pitch was THAT close to guessing it when he said poem, and now you are going farther away again. Think: what could be a poem, but is ore than that?

[Pitchwife]

A song?

[Galadriel55]

A song - YOU ARE CORRECT AGAIN, PITCH!!!

[Pitchwife]

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. We already know it wasn't sung in LotR, so:
Was it sung by an Elf?

[Galadriel55]

It was definitely sung by Elves. The tricky part about these more specific questions is that we don't really know that much about the song.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it first sung in Aman?

[Galadriel55]

Was it first sung in Aman - I bet so! :p

[Ozban]

Is it Ode on some well known Lady?

[Galadriel55]

Is it Ode on some well known Lady? - I wouldn't say so.

[Pitchwife]

Is it the Aldudénië, or Lament for the Two Trees, by Elemmíre of the Vanyar?

[Galadriel55]

Aldudénië - no, but very warm!

[Pitchwife]

Narsilion, the song of Sun and Moon?

[Galadriel55]

You got it, Pitch!!!

[Pitchwife]

Wow, that was pretty esoteric. Nice though.

OK, ask away.

[Galadriel55]

Wow, that was pretty esoteric. Nice though.

Thanks! I didn't think it would be that difficult! I saw somewhere in this thread things like languages, so I thought a song will be acceptable.

Person?

[Pitchwife]

Nothing wrong with a song, that's just a little unusual. But a song that's only mentioned once in a single sentence of the legandarium, that's esoteric! If Tuor hadn't had the brilliant idea of asking whether it was sung in Aman, I'd still be guessing.

Person? - No.

[Blind Guardian]

Place?

[Evisse the Blue]

Inanimate object?

[Pitchwife]

Person? - No.
Place? - No.
Inanimate object? - Yes.

[Evisse the Blue]

Was it a heirloom?

[LadyBrooke]

Was it elven made?

[Pitchwife]

Person? - No.
Place? - No.
Inanimate object? - Yes.
Was it a heirloom? - Don't think so.
Was it elven made? - Yep.

[LadyBrooke]

Was it made by one of the Noldor?

[Pitchwife]

Person? - No.
Place? - No.
Inanimate object? - Yes.
Was it a heirloom? - Don't think so.
Was it elven made? - Yep.
Was it made by one of the Noldor? - We're not told.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made in Aman?

[LadyBrooke]

Was it a weapon?

[Pitchwife]

Person? - No.
Place? - No.
Inanimate object? - Yes.
Was it a heirloom? - Don't think so.
Was it elven made? - Yep.
Was it made by one of the Noldor? - We're not told.
Was it made in Aman? - No.
Was it a weapon? - No.

[LadyBrooke]

Was it jewelery?

[Pitchwife]

Was it jewelery? - No.

[Galadriel55]

Is it a thing that you build? (eg tower?)

[LadyBrooke]

Was it given as a gift?

[Pitchwife]

Is it a thing that you build? (eg tower?) - No.
Was it given as a gift? - Yes.

[Evisse the Blue]

Phial of Galadriel?

[Pitchwife]

Phial of Galadriel? - No (but you're close).

[Evisse the Blue]

Was it given as a gift to someone in the Fellowship?

[LadyBrooke]

Was it the elven rope?

[Galadriel55]

If it's not that, is it the belt she gave to Boromir?

[Pitchwife]

Was it given as a gift to someone in the Fellowship? - Yes.
Was it the elven rope? - No.
If it's not that, is it the belt she gave to Boromir? - No.

[Evisse the Blue]

The box she gave to Sam?

[Pitchwife]

The box she gave to Sam? - Yes, that's it. Take it away, Evisse!

[Evisse the Blue]

Cool!

Ask away :)

[Pitchwife]

Is it a person?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it a person? - No

[Pitchwife]

An object?

[Galadriel55]

Place?

[Evisse the Blue]

Place - No
Object- Yes

[Pitchwife]

A weapon?

[Evisse the Blue]

A weapon? No

[Galadriel55]

Jewelry?

[Blind Guardian]

Something made of stone or rock, ie Silmaril, gem, gold

[Evisse the Blue]

Something made of stone or rock, ie Silmaril, gem, gold? - No

Jewelry? - No

[Galadriel55]

Is it made by Elves?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it made of wood?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it made by Elves? - No
Is it made of wood? ---Originally, yes

[Kyranger]

Made by Men?

[Evisse the Blue]

Made by Men? No

[Galadriel55]

Was it remade?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by dwarves?

[Evisse the Blue]

Was it remade? No
Made by dwarves? No

[Galadriel55]

Is it something that a person made?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it something that a person made? - Yes.

I should add that, for one of the previous questions: 'is it made of wood' to which I answered 'originally, yes' - my answer is not only pretentious in that context but could be quite misleading.
So I'm going to revise the answer to that question:

Is it made of wood? No

[Galadriel55]

Was it made in the 1st age?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by a maia or vala?

[Evisse the Blue]

Was it made in the 1st age? No

Was it made by a maia or vala? No

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by a bad person/creature/entity?

[Galadriel55]

Made in the 3rd age?

[Evisse the Blue]

Was it made by a bad person/creature/entity? No
Made in the 3rd age? Yes

[Galadriel55]

Is it a law?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by a Bombadil?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it a law? No. But you're pretty close in a way.

Was it made by Bombadil? No

[Galadriel55]

is it an oath?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by Iluvatar?

[Evisse the Blue]

is it an oath? No

Was it made by Iluvatar? No

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by anyone?

[Galadriel55]

Is it a physical object?

[Evisse the Blue]

Was it made by anyone? Yes

Is it a physical object? Yes

[Galadriel55]

made by ents?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by the Druadain?

[Evisse the Blue]

made by ents? No

Was it made by the Druadain? No

[Galadriel55]

Made by orcs?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by a skinchanger?

[Dimturiel]

Made by Hobbits by any chance?

[Evisse the Blue]

Made by orcs? No

Made by a skinchanger? No

Made by Hobbits by any chance? Yes

[Galadriel55]

the high hay?

[Evisse the Blue]

the high hay? - No

[Galadriel55]

Is it built?

[Dimturiel]

Could it be the Red Book of Westmarch?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it built? No
Could it be the Red Book of Westmarch? Why yes it could.

Well done, your thread, Dimturiel!

[Dimturiel]

Cool. Thanks:cool:.
Ok, ask away people.

[Galadriel55]

Congrats, Dimturiel!

is it a person?

[Kyranger]

Is it a place??

[Blind Guardian]

Is it alive?

[Dimturiel]

Here it goes:

Person? No.

Alive? No.

Place? Yes

[Evisse the Blue]

City?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Situated in Eriador or Rhovanion?

[Galadriel55]

Is it in ME? (yeah, I like the general questions...)

[Dimturiel]

City? No.

Situated in Eriador or Rhovanion? Neither.

Is it in ME? Yes, it is.

[Evisse the Blue]

Mountain?

[Galadriel55]

Is it in Gondor?

[Dimturiel]

Mountain? No.
Is it in Gondor? yes, it is.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a natural feature (not made by someone or something)?

[Galadriel55]

Is it a region?

[Dimturiel]

Natural feature (not made by someone or something)? No.

Region? No.

[Galadriel55]

is it a place in a city? (eg street, house)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made before the time of the ruling stewards?
(Before 2050 Third Age).

[Evisse the Blue]

Houses of Healing?

[Dimturiel]

Is it a place in a city (street, house)? Yes.

Made before the rulling Stewards? I think it was, yes.

Houses of Healing? Nope.

But you're getting close, people, keep going:).

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it in Osgiliath?

[Kyranger]

Was it in Minas Tirith?

[Galadriel55]

Is it a road/street?

[Dimturiel]

Was it in Osgiliath?No.

Was it in Minas Tirith? Yes.

Is it a road/ street? Yes.

[Galadriel55]

Rath Dinen?

[Dimturiel]

Rath Dinen? Exactly. Well done:).

[Galadriel55]

Thanks!

Ok, ask away!

[Evisse the Blue]

Living?

[Galadriel55]

Living - no

[Kyranger]

Place?

[Galadriel55]

Living - no
Place - no

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a thing?

[Galadriel55]

Living - no
Place - no
Thing - yes

[Kyranger]

Weapon?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - I wouldn't say so. No.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by someone?

[Dimturiel]

Was it in the First Age?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by an elf?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - I believe it isn't

[Pitchwife]

Is it something that can be worn (clothing, armour etc.)?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - No
Is it worn - yes

[Dimturiel]

Worn by an Elf?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - No
Is it worn - yes
Worn by an Elf - I believe that at some point it was

[Pitchwife]

Gosh, is this still unsolved? Can't let this stagnate, can we? No, my preciouss...

Was it made by a Dwarf?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - No
Is it worn - yes
Worn by an Elf - I believe that at some point it was
Made by Dwarf - yes.

I almost forgot what I had in mind, the thread was stagnant for so long...:eek::D Well, not that long, but way longer than usual...

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Worn by a petty dwarf?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - No
Is it worn - yes
Worn by an Elf - I believe that at some point it was
Made by Dwarf - yes.
Worn by a petty dwarf - I don't recall any such instance. No.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a mask?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - No
Is it worn - yes
Worn by an Elf - I believe that at some point it was
Made by Dwarf - yes.
Worn by a petty dwarf - No.
Is it a mask - ummmmm.......yeeeeeeeees.......but not really......but yes.

[Blind Guardian]

Does it go on your head at all?

[Galadriel55]

Thing - yes
Weapon - no
Made by someone - yes
First age - yes
Made by an Elf - No
Is it worn - yes
Worn by an Elf - I believe that at some point it was
Made by Dwarf - yes.
Worn by a petty dwarf - No.
Is it a mask - *
Does in go on your head - yes.

*This answer probably confused you, but if I say why it was hard to answer, it'll be a giveaway.

[Kyranger]

Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin?

[Galadriel55]

That's right, Kyranger!

[Kyranger]

Thank you Galadriel55,

Ask away!

[Galadriel55]

Is it a person?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person - No

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a place?

[Galadriel55]

Thing?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by someone or something?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by an elf?

[Galadriel55]

And if not, made by Men?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by good men?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes

[Galadriel55]

Made in the 3rd age?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No

[Galadriel55]

First age?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No

[Galadriel55]

Made by Numenorians?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships?

[Galadriel55]

Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....

Hmmm... How about Elendil+co. after they escaped?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a palantiri?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No

[Galadriel55]

Is it something that they built?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made after escaping Numenor?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes

[Galadriel55]

Is it a city?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes
Is it a city? ~ No

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a staue or monument?

[Galadriel55]

Is it made of stone?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes
Is it a city? ~ No
Is it a statue or monument? ~ No
Is it made of stone? ~ I don't know.....:confused:

[Absinthe]

Can I dive in?

Is it in Gondor?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes
Is it a city? ~ No
Is it a statue or monument? ~ No
Is it made of stone? ~ I don't know.....:confused:
Is it in Gondor? ~ Yes

[Absinthe]

Hmm

Is it in Ithilien?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it/can it be worn by someone?

[Galadriel55]

Is it in Minas Tirith?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes
Is it a city? ~ No
Is it a statue or monument? ~ No
Is it made of stone? ~ I don't know.....:confused:
Is it in Gondor? ~ Yes
Is it in Ithilien? ~ No
Is it/can it be worn by someone? ~ No
Is it in Minas Tirith? ~ No

[Galadriel55]

Is it a port/haven (eg Harlond)?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes
Is it a city? ~ No
Is it a statue or monument? ~ No
Is it made of stone? ~ I don't know.....:confused:
Is it in Gondor? ~ Yes
Is it in Ithilien? ~ No
Is it/can it be worn by someone? ~ No
Is it in Minas Tirith? ~ No
Is it a port/haven (eg Harlond)? ~ No

[Galadriel55]

Is it the Rammas Echor?

[Kyranger]

Is it a person? ~ No
Is it a place? ~ No
Thing? ~ Yes
Made by someone or something? ~ Yes
Made by an elf? ~ No
Made by Men? ~ Yes
Made by good men? ~ Yes
Made in the 3rd age? ~ No
First age? ~ No
Made by Numenorians? ~ Sort of....
Does it have a connection to Numenorean ships? ~ No
How about Elendil+co. after they escaped? ~ Yes
Is it a palantiri? ~ No
Is it something that they built? ~ Yes
Was it made after escaping Numenor? ~ Yes
Is it a city? ~ No
Is it a statue or monument? ~ No
Is it made of stone? ~ I don't know.....
Is it in Gondor? ~ Yes
Is it in Ithilien? ~ No
Is it/can it be worn by someone? ~ No
Is it in Minas Tirith? ~ No
Is it a port/haven (eg Harlond)? ~ No
Is it the Rammas Echor? ~ No

[The Might]

This one is quite difficult, especially because the material seems to be unknown, but it's still a building...

I'll take the Causeway Forts then, though I'm not really sure...

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Is it a wall and/or gate?

[Galadriel55]

Is it a building/part of a building?

[Almesiva Moonshadow]

Was it a weapon, like a sword or something?

[Absinthe]

I think Kyranger has been around but not responded. I suppose he had won since we have had more than 20 questions (?) but it would be good to know what this one was!:confused:

[Kyranger]

Sorry, guys for not responding, I had forgotten about the thread. The answer is the Doors of Orthanc. ( I'm still not sure what material they are made of )

[Galadriel55]

OHHHHHH! :rolleyes:

Good one, Kyranger! :p

I guess it's anyone's turn now...

[Absinthe]

Oh I fogot that Orthanc was really part of Gondor!

I've got an idea if no one else has - but I haven't read through the whole thread so I can't guarantee it hasn't been done before.

[Galadriel55]

Reding through the whole thread would take quite some time. ;) As long as your idea wasn't used in the past few pages, I think it will work (personally, I don't remember any of the answers, except for mine :p)

Person?

[Blind Guardian]

Place?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Person?

[Absinthe]

Alright then!

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no.!:D

[Kyranger]

Object?

[Absinthe]

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Was it made by someone or some group?

[Absinthe]

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes.

[Kyranger]

Was it made in the first age?

[Galadriel55]

Made by a mortal?

[Absinthe]

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by a dwarf?

[Kyranger]

Made in the second age?

[Galadriel55]

Made by a man?

[Absinthe]

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.

[Pitchwife]

Made by (a) hobbit(s)?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Made by an orc?

[Galadriel55]

Is it a weapon?

[Absinthe]

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.
10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly
10a Made by an orc? Nope.
11, Weapon? No.

[Galadriel55]

Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself?

[Blind Guardian]

Book?

[Absinthe]

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.
10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly
10a Made by an orc? Nope.
11, Weapon? No.
12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes.
12a book. no


12a Book. No

[Galadriel55]

Hm Curious.

Is it something that an average hobbit would use frequently?