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Pitchwife
06-20-2011, 01:02 PM
Place? - No.
Person? - No.
Living thing? - No.
Thing/Object? - Yes.
Made/crafted? - Yes again.
Made by a mortal? - No.
Fixed in place? - Good one! No.
Made by an Elf? - Yes. (Or Elves.)
A weapon? - No.
Jewelry? - No.
Made in the First Age? - No.
Does it feature in LotR? - Yes.
Made in Eregion™? - Don't think so. No.

LadyBrooke
06-20-2011, 01:08 PM
Elvish Rope?

Galadriel55
06-20-2011, 02:08 PM
Does a fellowship member use it?

Pitchwife
06-20-2011, 02:35 PM
Place? - No.
Person? - No.
Living thing? - No.
Thing/Object? - Yes.
Made/crafted? - Yes again.
Made by a mortal? - No.
Fixed in place? - Good one! No.
Made by an Elf? - Yes. (Or Elves.)
A weapon? - No.
Jewelry? - No.
Made in the First Age? - No.
Does it feature in LotR? - Yes.
Made in Eregion™? - No.
Elvish rope? - No.
Does a Fellowship member use it? - No.

Galadriel55
06-20-2011, 02:58 PM
Does it appear in Lorien?

Tuor in Gondolin
06-20-2011, 03:31 PM
Does it appear in Gondor?

Pitchwife
06-20-2011, 04:20 PM
Place? - No.
Person? - No.
Living thing? - No.
Thing/Object? - Yes.
Made/crafted? - Yes again.
Made by a mortal? - No.
Fixed in place? - Good one! No.
Made by an Elf? - Yes. (Or Elves.)
A weapon? - No.
Jewelry? - No.
Made in the First Age? - No.
Does it feature in LotR? - Yes.
Made in Eregion™? - No.
Elvish rope? - No.
Does a Fellowship member use it? - No.
Does it appear in Lorien? - Yep!
Does it appear in Gondor? - Nope.

Galadriel55
06-20-2011, 04:53 PM
Galadriel's pitcher?

Tuor in Gondolin
06-20-2011, 05:50 PM
Galadriel's Fountain?

Pitchwife
06-20-2011, 11:59 PM
Place? - No.
Person? - No.
Living thing? - No.
Thing/Object? - Yes.
Made/crafted? - Yes again.
Made by a mortal? - No.
Fixed in place? - Good one! No.
Made by an Elf? - Yes. (Or Elves.)
A weapon? - No.
Jewelry? - No.
Made in the First Age? - No.
Does it feature in LotR? - Yes.
Made in Eregion™? - No.
Elvish rope? - No.
Does a Fellowship member use it? - No.
Does it appear in Lorien? - Yep!
Does it appear in Gondor? - Nope.
Galadriel's pitcher? - No.
Galadriel's fountain? - No. (Wouldn't that be fixed in place?)

Mithalwen
06-21-2011, 02:36 AM
Is it the swan ship Galadriel uses in Farewell to Lorien?

Pitchwife
06-21-2011, 07:44 AM
It is indeed! Well done, Mith! Over to you.

Mithalwen
06-21-2011, 10:37 AM
Nice choice! Hmm something simple this time for me I think. Okies off you go...

LadyBrooke
06-21-2011, 01:07 PM
Person?

Galadriel55
06-21-2011, 02:09 PM
Thing?

Pitchwife
06-21-2011, 02:45 PM
Hmm something simple this time for me I think.
So it's not an immaterial concept which also happens to be both a place and a life-form?:p

No, don't count that one. Something different - Is it green?

Mithalwen
06-21-2011, 04:40 PM
Person? No
Thing? Ummmmmm I suppose you could call it that ...most things are things
Immaterial concept also place and life form? No but on elements you might get one or two out of three!

Green ., yes!

Galadriel55
06-21-2011, 05:18 PM
Is it a plant?

(By "thing" I meant object. Should have been more specific, but... whatever.)

Mithalwen
06-21-2011, 05:27 PM
It isn't a plant and it isn't an object

LadyBrooke
06-21-2011, 06:06 PM
Place?

Mithalwen
06-21-2011, 06:09 PM
Yes a place.

LadyBrooke
06-21-2011, 08:22 PM
Forest?

Galadriel55
06-21-2011, 09:14 PM
Grassland?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 02:40 AM
Grassland/Forest ? Is neither has both to a point.

Tuor in Gondolin
06-22-2011, 07:12 AM
Is it in Aman?

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 07:46 AM
The corollaire?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 08:49 AM
No and so no....

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 10:32 AM
Is it a country (eg Gondor)?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 11:07 AM
Not a country

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 11:35 AM
A region?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 11:43 AM
Region no...

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 12:01 PM
In ME?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 02:27 PM
Very much so ....

LadyBrooke
06-22-2011, 02:40 PM
Is it Middle-Earth?

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 02:45 PM
Is it Middle-Earth?

Hey, that was my answer! Don't tell me that Mith used it!

Erm, um, a city/town?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 02:46 PM
I wouldn't go back to that! It isn't a tricksy one honest.

Pitchwife
06-22-2011, 02:53 PM
Hmm... so it's a place more closely circumscribed than a country or region, right?
Did Elves ever dwell there?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 03:00 PM
Not that is recorded to my knowledge. And your assumption is correct.

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 03:11 PM
So is it a city/town?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 03:14 PM
Strictly speaking it is the location of a city/town but that is a fine distinction so effectively yes.

Tuor in Gondolin
06-22-2011, 03:38 PM
Is it Tharbad?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 03:48 PM
Nope

Pitchwife
06-22-2011, 03:54 PM
Hm, I think we'll have to tackle this the old-fashioned way.
North of the White Mountains?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 03:57 PM
Oh Pitch and your green was so inspired,... there have been answers with all salient elements just not right option.... yes noth of White Mountains.

LadyBrooke
06-22-2011, 05:56 PM
South of Dol Guldur?

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 06:05 PM
West of Misty Mtns?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 08:54 PM
Not South of Dol Guldur
Yes West of the Misty Mountains,

LadyBrooke
06-22-2011, 09:09 PM
Do hobbits live there?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 09:14 PM
No not the Shire - if you misses my answer to Pitch it is smaller than a country and no Elves. She Shire is a country IMO and I would have hesitated to say now Elves because of WoodyEnd - a permanent temporary Elf residence!

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 09:21 PM
*sighs* "Green" was the most random question ever, but the best one yet!...

Was it populated/inhabited by people at the time of the War of the Ring?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 09:28 PM
Yes it was.

LadyBrooke
06-22-2011, 09:37 PM
No not the Shire - if you misses my answer to Pitch it is smaller than a country and no Elves. She Shire is a country IMO and I would have hesitated to say now Elves because of WoodyEnd - a permanent temporary Elf residence!

Which is why I deleted The Shire? and posted a new question a few minutes before your answer...we seem to have cross posted though, so I'll ask my question again.

Did hobbits live there?

Thinking of a more specific place, like Hobbiton or Bree and not the general Shire/Countryside.....

Galadriel55
06-22-2011, 09:45 PM
The field where the Party Tree stood?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 09:49 PM
Not the Party field.

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 09:50 PM
Sorry I didnt see.

Yes Hobbits live there.

LadyBrooke
06-22-2011, 09:55 PM
It's fine. :D I miss posts all the time...and on one of the other forums I'm on, there isn't the handy Active Topics list, so you have to open every section and look for new posts. I managed to miss on topic three days in a row....

Did humans also live there?

Mithalwen
06-22-2011, 09:58 PM
Well it is a bit sneaky to change posts after I have started replying.... and you have been nasty about Hugo-Elrond again..don't think I don't notice!!!!

Yes Humans live there.

LadyBrooke
06-22-2011, 10:01 PM
:p...if it makes you feel better, it's not Hugo I have a problem with - I have the utmost respect for his acting abilities, and feel he did the best he could with the script. And the costume design isn't his fault either. I have problems with PJ....

Is it Bree?

Mithalwen
06-23-2011, 03:13 AM
Yes but I was thinking of the hill rather than the town hence the green and forest (Chetwood) and grassland. But being a language pedant I decided not to insist on the tautologous Bree-hill.

Hmmm ok....I'll forgive you but references like "ugly old elf" are liable to set me off... :p And considering what they were considering for his father of the bride up do he got let off lightly ...

Any way off you go!

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 10:35 AM
I know...that father of the bride thing is just...:eek:

Alright, I'm ready. :D...and thank you for not insisting on Bree-hill.

Tuor in Gondolin
06-23-2011, 11:25 AM
Is it sentient?

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 12:01 PM
A living creature/organism?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 12:31 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 12:36 PM
An object?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 01:03 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No

Tuor in Gondolin
06-23-2011, 03:32 PM
Is it smaller than an elf?

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 03:34 PM
An event?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 03:37 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No (but I really like this question :D)
An event? - No...though I'll keep that category in mind.

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 03:46 PM
A place?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 03:56 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes :D Never claimed to be an original thinker....I have to be able to remember these things after all. :p

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 04:01 PM
Is it in ME?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 04:06 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 04:09 PM
West of the Misty Mtns?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 04:18 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 05:20 PM
In Eriador?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 06:27 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No

Mithalwen
06-23-2011, 06:43 PM
Was is on the surface in the third age?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 07:14 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No :D

Mithalwen
06-23-2011, 07:22 PM
Ummm a realm?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....

Tuor in Gondolin
06-23-2011, 07:33 PM
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 08:04 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, :p....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 08:41 PM
West of Sirion?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 08:48 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, ....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...
West of Sirion? - No

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Tol Sirion/Tol-in-Gaurhoth?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 08:59 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, ....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...
West of Sirion? - No
Tol Sirion/Tol-in-Gaurhoth? - No, Sorry

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 09:06 PM
Was it inhabited by the Noldor?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 09:16 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, ....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...
West of Sirion? - No
Tol Sirion/Tol-in-Gaurhoth? - No, Sorry
Was it inhabited by the Noldor? - Yes

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 09:22 PM
West of the Arossiach?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 09:35 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, ....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...
West of Sirion? - No
Tol Sirion/Tol-in-Gaurhoth? - No, Sorry
Was it inhabited by the Noldor? - Yes
West of the Arossiach? - Judging by the blurry little map I have, no, but I can't be entirely sure on that one....

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 09:47 PM
Arossiach is on the same "longitude" as the Eastern boarders of Doriath...

Is it in Feanor's son's realms?

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 09:50 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, ....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...
West of Sirion? - No
Tol Sirion/Tol-in-Gaurhoth? - No, Sorry
Was it inhabited by the Noldor? - Yes
West of the Arossiach? - Judging by the blurry little map I have, no, but I can't be entirely sure on that one....
Is it in Feanor's son's realms? - Yes...in fact, though Tolkien never calls it a realm...well, it is guarded by one of them....

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 09:55 PM
Is it a "large (ish)" region? (rather than, eg a city)

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 10:03 PM
Is it sentient? - No
A living creature/organism? - No
An object? - No
Is it smaller than an elf? - No
An event? - No
A place? - Yes
Is it in ME? - Yes
West of the Misty Mtns? - Yes.
In Eriador? - No
Was is on the surface in the third age? - No
Ummm a realm? - No, not according to Tolkien...it sort of fits the definition though....
Did dwarves, elves, or orcs create or improve it? - Way to be precise, ....hmm, well both elves and orcs were there at points, and there was some form of elvish settlement...
West of Sirion? - No
Tol Sirion/Tol-in-Gaurhoth? - No, Sorry
Was it inhabited by the Noldor? - Yes
West of the Arossiach? - No
Is it in Feanor's son's realms? - Yes...in fact, though Tolkien never calls it a realm...well, it is guarded by one of them....
Is it a "large (ish)" region? (rather than, eg a city) - Yes, region...and I suppose its largish...

Galadriel55
06-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Himlad?

I better stop for today, since it's already tomorrow, and my brain is starting to malfunction. :p

LadyBrooke
06-23-2011, 10:12 PM
Himlad?

I better stop for today, since it's already tomorrow, and my brain is starting to malfunction. :p

Close, but not...journey further east.

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 07:13 AM
Thargelion?

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 12:04 PM
Thargelion?

No...smaller region then that I believe, and the word guarded was a clue. ;)

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 12:32 PM
Pass of Aglon?

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 12:52 PM
Pass of Aglon?

Closer still, but wrong brother...it's not any of the Cs.

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 12:52 PM
Himring?

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 12:56 PM
Very, very close, but still the wrong brother. The place I'm looking for though, is right by Himring.

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 12:59 PM
March of Maedhros?

O, wait, isn't he also the Himring brother?...:rolleyes:

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:04 PM
Yes, he is. :p ...so, you have three choices left: Maglor, Amrod, or Amras for the brother....

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 01:06 PM
Lothlann?

Amrod and Amras are out, since they are nowhere close to Himring - too far south. I don't know!!! Lothlann wasn't really any brother's!!! :eek:

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:09 PM
No, not Lothlann...here's a hint, it has the brother's name in it. (and yes, you're right that Amrod and Amras are out)

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 01:11 PM
Ah, ok... Is it the clothing store of the same chain as the Gap of Rohan? (aka is it Maglor's Gap?) ;):p

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:15 PM
Yes, it is! :D

I wasn't expecting it to be that difficult...did I mess up somewhere?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 01:28 PM
I wasn't expecting it to be that difficult...did I mess up somewhere?

No, you didn't. It's just that I have to reread The Sil, cause I forgot half the names of the places there. Plus, the map I was referring to didn't have the Gap on it...

I have something a bit tricksy in mind... not too tricksy, though. :)

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:32 PM
Ah, see I'm far more likely to remember something out of the Sil then say, LotR or TH. I've read the Sil more, and I tend to gravitate towards it and discussions of it...which reminds me that I need to go over to DA and answer some comments....

Living thing?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 01:33 PM
Living thing - no...

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:35 PM
Object?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 01:37 PM
Living thing - no...
Object - no

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:43 PM
Sentient?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 01:49 PM
Living thing - no...
Object - no
Sentient - yes

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 01:56 PM
Undead (i.e. Nazguls, Wrights, ect.)?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 02:07 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way
Undead - no


You were probably confused how it's not a living thing but sentient. It's somewhat similar to, say, a forest: it's not really a living thing, but it's kind of alive... So I changed the answers to be less confusing.

Pitchwife
06-24-2011, 02:31 PM
Silent Watchers?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 02:34 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no

Pitchwife
06-24-2011, 02:40 PM
Duh, of course not - the Watchers would qualify as objects, wouldn't they? Think before you type, Pitch.

Is it natural?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 03:51 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.

Tuor in Gondolin
06-24-2011, 04:38 PM
Connected to elves?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.

Connected to Elves - yes, very!!

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 05:17 PM
Present during the First Age?

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 05:47 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
Connected to Elves - yes, very!!

Present during the first age - yes

LadyBrooke
06-24-2011, 06:29 PM
Present in more than one age?

I was thinking the Girdle...but that wouldn't really be natural....

Galadriel55
06-24-2011, 06:34 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
Connected to Elves - yes, very!!
Present during the first age - yes

Present in more than one age - yes


The Girdle is waaaay off. This isn't that hard. "It"'s something that is at the same time physical and a concept - but only because "living creatures who can think" made it a concept by differentiating it from... others.

Mithalwen
06-25-2011, 05:01 PM
The straight Road?

Galadriel55
06-25-2011, 05:19 PM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
Connected to Elves - yes, very!!
Present during the first age - yes
Present in more than one age - yes

Straight Road - no, it's much more "alive"


The example that I gave before - a forest - is probably too much of a clue to give at the very beginning, but I couldn't think of a better one. So yes, this is another clue. Think of how a forest works, why it could be considered alive, etc...

LadyBrooke
06-25-2011, 10:30 PM
The example that I gave before - a forest - is probably too much of a clue to give at the very beginning, but I couldn't think of a better one. So yes, this is another clue. Think of how a forest works, why it could be considered alive, etc...

So confused...forests could be considered alive because of all the living things in it, but the only things I would think of fitting that would be places...

Present in both Valinor and M-E?

Mithalwen
06-26-2011, 01:30 AM
Doesn't seem that has been discounted...

So is it a place?

LadyBrooke
06-26-2011, 02:29 AM
I was thinking that places were people were living would be created...buildings and such, and of course even the natural landscapes seem to have been messed with, such as mountains being raised and such....

Galadriel55
06-26-2011, 07:12 AM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
Connected to Elves - yes, very!!
Present during the first age - yes
Present in more than one age - yes
Straight Road - no, it's much more "alive"

Present in both Valinor and ME? - After and before certain poits in history, yes.

So confused...forests could be considered alive because of all the living things in it, but the only things I would think of fitting that would be places...

Well, not only places. The forest is alive because it consists of living things, right? So what else could?

Tuor in Gondolin
06-26-2011, 07:20 AM
The desire of some elves for a realm/land
of their own independent of the Valar?

Galadriel55
06-26-2011, 07:38 AM
Living thing - not really
Object - no
Sentient - in a way/you could say so
Undead - no
Silent Watchers - no
Natural - as in, not crafted? As much as I'm tempted to confuse you all, I won't. "It" is natural.
Connected to Elves - yes, very!!
Present during the first age - yes
Present in more than one age - yes
Straight Road - no, it's much more "alive"
Present in both Valinor and ME? - After and before certain points in history, yes.

Place - no, it's not
The desire of some elves for a realm/land of their own independent of the Valar? - no.

THIS IS NOT A CRAZY CONCEPT.

It works just like a forest does. You can touch/see/feel individual trees. They are there. But "forest" is a made-up word (almost a concept!) that is used to group all the trees that stand in a bunch. Now there could be other made up words grouping other things, can't there?

Mithalwen
06-28-2011, 10:09 AM
Ah the Noldoras a kindred/race?

Galadriel55
06-28-2011, 10:28 AM
A kindred/race - BRILLIANT!!! It is one. ;)

LadyBrooke
06-28-2011, 10:55 AM
There's where I'm getting confused...I wouldn't consider those natural or alive. :p

Did they finish the journey to Valinor?

Mithalwen
06-28-2011, 11:18 AM
The Vanyar?

Galadriel55
06-28-2011, 11:27 AM
Did they finish the journey to Valinor - yes, applause! ;)

Vanyar - no, look broader.


Well, it's a race of people, and they are as natural as any animal... And "alive" just like a forest could be.

Mithalwen
06-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Elveses?

LadyBrooke
06-28-2011, 11:35 AM
Well, I suppose its all a matter of opinion...I would consider elves (as a group) alive but divisions within them, such as Noldor, Vanyar, Moriquendi, ect artificial concepts, created by the elves, much the same as say brands of electronics....

Calaquendi?

Galadriel55
06-28-2011, 03:06 PM
LBrooke got it! (Sorry, Mith...)

I'm sorry if I was confusing. I guess the divisions between Elves are artificial, but the Elves aren't....

Well your turn anyways!

LadyBrooke
06-28-2011, 03:14 PM
Sorry Mith...

I'm ready now. :D

It wasn't too confusing...I just have a tendency to over think, I suppose. And I'm worried, so I'm not thinking too clearly...Amrod and Amras kittens aren't doing too well. :(

Galadriel55
06-28-2011, 03:37 PM
It wasn't too confusing...I just have a tendency to over think, I suppose. And I'm worried, so I'm not thinking too clearly...Amrod and Amras kittens aren't doing too well. :(

I overthink as well... I hope Amrod and Amras will get better...

Is is a living thing?

LadyBrooke
06-28-2011, 03:53 PM
Is is a living thing? - No

Galadriel55
06-28-2011, 03:54 PM
Object?

Mithalwen
06-28-2011, 04:42 PM
LBrooke got it! (Sorry, Mith...)

I'm sorry if I was confusing. I guess the divisions between Elves are artificial, but the Elves aren't....

Well your turn anyways!

I nearly said High Elves but I didn't think of them as a race - not all Teleri are high elves..anyway I have enough on my plated atm,

LadyBrooke
06-28-2011, 05:31 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes

Galadriel55
06-28-2011, 08:46 PM
Crafted?

LadyBrooke
06-28-2011, 09:10 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes

Kyranger
06-29-2011, 05:52 AM
Made by Elves/Elf?

Galadriel55
06-29-2011, 07:14 AM
Made during the First Age?

LadyBrooke
06-29-2011, 11:22 AM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes

Kyranger
06-29-2011, 11:38 AM
Weapon?

LadyBrooke
06-29-2011, 11:59 AM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No

Galadriel55
06-29-2011, 12:04 PM
Jewels/jewelry?

LadyBrooke
06-29-2011, 01:20 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No
Jewels/jewelry? - No

Tuor in Gondolin
06-29-2011, 04:22 PM
Armor?

LadyBrooke
06-29-2011, 07:48 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No
Jewels/jewelry? - No
Armor? - No

Galadriel55
06-30-2011, 08:20 AM
Portable?

LadyBrooke
06-30-2011, 02:59 PM
Finally! It's not been letting me post or load the site all the way, the entire day...

Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No
Jewels/jewelry? - No
Armor? - No
Portable? - Yes

Galadriel55
06-30-2011, 08:45 PM
Made in Aman?

LadyBrooke
06-30-2011, 09:42 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No
Jewels/jewelry? - No
Armor? - No
Portable? - Yes
Made in Aman? - Yes

Galadriel55
06-30-2011, 10:25 PM
Palantir?

I'm sorry to hear about the kittens... :(

LadyBrooke
06-30-2011, 11:42 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No
Jewels/jewelry? - No
Armor? - No
Portable? - Yes
Made in Aman? - Yes
Palantir? - No, but on the right track as far as makers go....

Thanks...I'm just glad I got some pictures of them while they were still healthy. According to the vet, they had some hereditary disease that kept them from digesting food...:(

Mithalwen
07-01-2011, 04:31 AM
Weapon?

So sorry about the kittens. My first kitten died at 12 weeks. It was horrible. :( The next one lasted 18 years though....

LadyBrooke
07-01-2011, 12:14 PM
Weapon has already been asked, sorry....

And thank you about the kittens...you think I'd be used to it by now, as we live out in the country, and we get all kinds of stray/dropped off pregnant cats, whose kittens end up dying because the mother was sick...at least this year, we've only lost 3, last summer we lost a dozen because some wild animal got into the barn where the strays were and attacked them...that was horrible. :(

Tuor in Gondolin
07-01-2011, 01:09 PM
Made by Feanor?

LadyBrooke
07-01-2011, 02:45 PM
Is is a living thing? - No
Object? - Yes
Crafted? - Yes
Made by Elves/Elf? - Yes
Made during the First Age? - Yes
Weapon? - No
Jewels/jewelry? - No
Armor? - No
Portable? - Yes
Made in Aman? - Yes
Palantir? - No, but on the right track as far as makers go....
Made by Feanor? - Presumably, at least the first ones...

Galadriel55
07-05-2011, 10:37 AM
The stones that Feanor made that shone at night?

LadyBrooke
07-06-2011, 09:50 AM
The stones that Feanor made that shone at night?

Well...I think those might be in what I'm talking about...here's a hint, they're not mentioned in the Silm, but are mentioned in UT (and possibly CoH, but I've yet to read that....).

Kyranger
07-15-2011, 10:45 AM
Fëanorian lamp?

LadyBrooke
07-15-2011, 02:40 PM
Yes! Congrats Kyranger, your turn. :D

Kyranger
07-15-2011, 04:04 PM
Ask away!

LadyBrooke
07-15-2011, 04:41 PM
Alive?

Kyranger
07-16-2011, 07:52 AM
Alive - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-16-2011, 08:21 AM
Person?

Kyranger
07-16-2011, 08:33 AM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-16-2011, 09:37 AM
Mortal?

Kyranger
07-16-2011, 11:02 AM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-16-2011, 11:20 AM
Human?

Kyranger
07-16-2011, 04:31 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-16-2011, 04:34 PM
Alive in the Third Age?

Kyranger
07-16-2011, 05:06 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-16-2011, 05:58 PM
Alive during the War of the Ring?

Kyranger
07-16-2011, 06:58 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-16-2011, 07:19 PM
Nobility/Royalty? (Prince, Lord, King, ect...)

Kyranger
07-17-2011, 07:12 AM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes

McCaber
07-17-2011, 10:52 AM
Gondorian?

Kyranger
07-17-2011, 06:57 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes

LadyBrooke
07-17-2011, 07:03 PM
Prince?

Tuor in Gondolin
07-19-2011, 10:09 AM
Female?

Kyranger
07-19-2011, 03:11 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No

Urwen
07-21-2011, 04:23 AM
Alive in the Fourth age?

Kyranger
07-21-2011, 09:50 AM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No
Alive in the Fourth age - No

LadyBrooke
07-21-2011, 10:30 AM
Steward?

Urwen
07-21-2011, 11:33 AM
King?

Kyranger
07-21-2011, 01:45 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No
Alive in the Fourth age - No
Steward - No
King - No

Urwen
07-21-2011, 03:25 PM
Soldier?

Kyranger
07-21-2011, 03:54 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No
Alive in the Fourth age - No
Steward - No
King - No
Soldier - Yes

Urwen
07-21-2011, 04:10 PM
Member of White Guard? (Faramir's)

LadyBrooke
07-21-2011, 04:45 PM
Related to the Steward?

Urwen
07-21-2011, 04:53 PM
Beregond?

Kyranger
07-22-2011, 08:47 AM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No
Alive in the Fourth age - No
Steward - No
King - No
Soldier - Yes
Member of White Guard - No
Related to the Steward - Don't think so
Beregond - No

LadyBrooke
07-22-2011, 08:59 AM
Lord of a Region of Gondor?

Tuor in Gondolin
07-22-2011, 10:18 AM
Comes from South Gondor?

Kyranger
07-24-2011, 06:00 AM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No
Alive in the Fourth age - No
Steward - No
King - No
Soldier - Yes
Member of White Guard - No
Related to the Steward - Don't think so
Beregond - No
Lord of a Region of Gondor - Yes
Comes from South Gondor - No

LadyBrooke
07-24-2011, 10:07 AM
Hirluin?

Kyranger
07-25-2011, 01:47 PM
Alive - Yes
Person - Yes
Mortal - Yes
Human - Yes
Alive in the Third Age - Yes
Alive during the War of the Ring - Yes
Nobility/Royalty - Yes
Gondorian - Yes
Prince - No
Female - No
Alive in the Fourth age - No
Steward - No
King - No
Soldier - Yes
Member of White Guard - No
Related to the Steward - Don't think so
Beregond - No
Lord of a Region of Gondor - Yes
Comes from South Gondor - No
Hirluin - No

LadyBrooke
07-25-2011, 02:00 PM
Forlong?

Kyranger
07-26-2011, 05:55 AM
Yes! Good work LadyBrooke, your turn.

LadyBrooke
07-26-2011, 07:40 AM
Awesome. :D Okay, ask away people....

Tuor in Gondolin
07-26-2011, 10:19 AM
Person?

Galadriel55
07-26-2011, 10:34 AM
alive?

LadyBrooke
07-26-2011, 01:00 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No

Galadriel55
07-26-2011, 01:24 PM
Crafted object?

LadyBrooke
07-26-2011, 01:37 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....

Galadriel55
07-26-2011, 01:41 PM
Made by a mortal?

LadyBrooke
07-26-2011, 05:57 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No

Galadriel55
07-26-2011, 06:54 PM
Made by a person?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 03:40 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes

Galadriel55
07-27-2011, 03:51 PM
Made by an Elf/Elves?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 05:10 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes

Galadriel55
07-27-2011, 05:19 PM
Made in the First Age?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 06:47 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes
Made in the First Age? - No

Galadriel55
07-27-2011, 07:27 PM
Second age, then?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 07:41 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes
Made in the First Age? - No
Second age, then? - No..shoot, I meant to put yes for First Age....don't ask where my brain is today, I lost my mind when I discovered another kitten this morning...

Galadriel55
07-27-2011, 07:56 PM
I lost my mind when I discovered another kitten this morning...

I hope that it was in a good way. What will you name him? ...or her?

So Yes to 1st Age. Hmm.

A weapon?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 08:25 PM
I hope that it was in a good way. What will you name him? ...or her?
Yep...good, less then a day old. So, I have no idea how it's mother got pregnant, being locked in a cage with no male cats except for Teddy who is fixed, unless it happened when Peeky sneaked into the garage a while back. Since I can't get Maedhros away from it, if it lives it's probably going to be named Fingon. :p

Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes
Made in the First Age? - Yes
A weapon? - No

Galadriel55
07-27-2011, 08:29 PM
Is it portable?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 09:15 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes
Made in the First Age? - Yes
A weapon? - No
Is it portable? - Very, as long as one knows about it.

Galadriel55
07-27-2011, 09:19 PM
Is it something you wear?

LadyBrooke
07-27-2011, 09:22 PM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes
Made in the First Age? - Yes
A weapon? - No
Is it portable? - Very, as long as one knows about it.
Is it something you wear? - No

To clarify, it's crafted, but it's not physical until used.

Galadriel55
07-28-2011, 07:26 AM
Does shapeshifting have anythig to do with this?

(as it is the only thing that comes to mind for now)

LadyBrooke
07-28-2011, 09:35 AM
Person? - No
alive? - No
Crafted object? - Hmmm...kind of, I guess....
Made by a mortal? - No
Made by a person? - Yes
Made by an Elf/Elves? - Yes
Made in the First Age? - Yes
A weapon? - No
Is it portable? - Very, as long as one knows about it.
Is it something you wear? - No
Does shapeshifting have anythig to do with this? - No

It's crafted/invented, but it's not a physical object, so much as knowledge...that allows one to make it physical by using the knowledge to engrave it on say, stone. ;)

Urwen
07-28-2011, 10:08 AM
Maybe some kind of letter/language system?

Galadriel55
07-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Cirth?

Urwen
07-28-2011, 10:28 AM
Tengwar?

LadyBrooke
07-28-2011, 12:23 PM
G55 has it! :D The Cirth of Daeron are indeed what I was thinking of. Your turn!

Galadriel55
07-28-2011, 06:04 PM
All right! Thanks! I have something interesting in mind.

LadyBrooke
07-28-2011, 07:41 PM
Alive?

Galadriel55
07-28-2011, 08:24 PM
Alive - not in any literal sense

LadyBrooke
07-28-2011, 10:50 PM
Sentient?

Galadriel55
07-29-2011, 09:26 AM
Alive - not in any literal sense
Sentient - no

LadyBrooke
07-29-2011, 01:19 PM
Object?

Galadriel55
07-29-2011, 01:37 PM
Alive - not in any literal sense
Sentient - no
Object - not really, ish. I wouldn't call it so. But maybe you could.

Why did I choose such a complicated thing? :rolleyes: I was only trying to be original! :(

LadyBrooke
07-29-2011, 01:43 PM
No problem..complicated is good. :D

Does it physically exist?

Galadriel55
07-29-2011, 02:40 PM
Alive - not in any literal sense
Sentient - no
Object - not really, ish. I wouldn't call it so. But maybe you could.
Physically exists - yes

LadyBrooke
07-29-2011, 03:09 PM
Natural?