Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Nogrod]

[I]Does this mean that I should delete my last post?
(Because I have no problems with deleting it if you think it best. :) )I'd leave this to you. Foley is partly right in saying that lord Athanar might have used a public doctor in Edoras... but then again, isn't it a mark of a lord to have his own "physician"?

So I have no problem with there being a healer in lord Athanar's retinue (a new character) and thus no need to delete or rewrite anything.

[Folwren]

Does this mean that I should delete my last post?
(Because I have no problems with deleting it if you think it best. )

Eh...I don't like telling people to delete their post. :( So, no, I won't say that. But p'raps re-work it with Nerindiel's character? Aedhel will be more calm about it and know more about what ot do, I think, so your post will definitely have to change. It might be that Scyrr's part can remain pretty much the same...you couldn't write for Aedhel's thoughts, of course, but you could write her actions, if you have some idea of what she'd be doing. As you seem to have a clear thought in your head about what his injuries are, I imagine you have some idea of how you'd want to see them healed. ;) You write rather indepthly on the pain. :eek:

Eeh... Scyrr hasn't fallen THAT far. Neither have I, for that matter.

Haha. Glad to hear it.

That was actually what I thought... Well, let's see how this works out.

Okay. Cool. So, now I guess it's Dury's turn....

-- Foley

[Eorl of Rohan]

Eh...I don't like telling people to delete their post. So, no, I won't say that. But p'raps re-work it with Nerindiel's character?

Thanks, Folwen, but I don't like causing controversy, either. So I'll just delete the post and forget about this whole affair until Nerindel comes by. ;)
Nerindel could always refer to the post I've written about Scyrr's injuries and write a post about it herself.



SCYRR'S INJURIES:

[1] Crushed larynx (More specifically, Bilateral injury to the recurrent laryngeal nerve. Symptoms include respirational difficulty and may cause permanent hoarseness. By the way, Lord Athanar made a surprisingly good call, telling Scyrr to concentrate on breathing and hushing him. Bilateral injury rips open more and more every time the patient attempts to speak.)

[2] Severe tear of muscle fibers and related tissues in the tendons of the semimembranosus, also known as a pulled hamstring. (Full recovery takes up to 4-6 weeks)

[3] Ruptured Spleen (Splenic rupture permits large amounts of blood to leak into the abdominal cavity which is severely painful and life-threatening. Shock and, ultimately, death can result. Someone with a ruptured spleen typically require an urgent medical aid, although one could simply monitor Scyrr to make sure the bleeding stops by itself and the spleen heals itself.)

[4] A number of bruises, and rib fracture (Broken ribs are often indicated by the following symptoms: Pain when breathing or with movement, a grating sound with breathing or movement. The rib fractured in Scyrr's case in the 7th rib, thankfully a crack instead of a clean break. Time will heal it... hopefully.)

[5] Obviously, Hypovolemic Shock (This is the most common type of shock and based on insufficient circulating volume. Its primary cause is loss of fluid from the circulation. Causes may include internal bleeding, in Scyrr's case a ruptured spleen. The symptoms include intense thirst, and quickened breathing in order to compensate for the loss of blood, but the latter is probably countered by difficulty of breathing from Scyrr's rib injuries and crushed larynx. Might result in oxygen deprivation - Scyrr *has* to breathe, no matter how difficult or painful it is.)
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[Durelin]

Ah, sorry about the misunderstanding. I guess it still works, though, as I think Coen would very much want to be a part of the search -- and would want Thornden there as well as the only local man right now he really trusts, and whom he knows is well-liked by the locals.

Anyway...let me know how you want it to play out. Coen can concede to Athanar wanting them to meet with him (he certainly won't disobey his lord), and request that he be able to join the search parties and keep tabs on them as soon as possible. And that will of course be up to Athanar. Regardless, I'll get them to Athanar in my next post unless Foley would like another chance to post before that.

I'll post as soon as I can. Need to get some work done on a paper (or two) first, though, I'm afraid.

[Folwren]

Nope, I see no necessity to post before seeing Athanar again. I'm kind of curious to know Coen's response to Thornden. I actually figured out how to make him diplomatic, because my first thought was that Thornden didn't want Erbrand to fall into the hands of Athanar's men without any Scarburgian men about, because Thornden didn't exactly trust them with Erbrand....not that it's a totally bad thing, because men should be loyal to their friends and Erbrand had really done something wrong, but he's still concerned for him. However, I think perhaps I made his distrust not quite so obvious. I could be wrong, though, which might mean some fun reactions from Coen. :D

Eorl, so sorry to have caused the deletion of your post... I'll PM Nerindiel and see if she's around.

-- Foley

[piosenniel]

Just to let you know: :)

Eorl of Rohan is hosting a new RPG, Homeward Bound (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16438). The Discussion Thread is up for your perusal at present in the Shire and will open soon to take on players.

~*~ Pio

[Eorl of Rohan]

Eorl, so sorry to have caused the deletion of your post... I'll PM Nerindiel and see if she's around.

No, I don't mind at all, Folwen :)

Everyone's here to have a good time, and I'm having a great one, too!

[Folwren]

I'll post for the kids sometime today - during lunchbreak, maybe. :)

[Folwren]

Well, I was GOING to post, but then I couldn't think of anything TO post for the kids. I just now thought of something, though, so once I get a chance to write something, I will. May not be until tomorrow. We'll wait and find out. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, please do throw them out here...

-- Folwren

[piosenniel]

Eorl of Rohan is hosting a new RPG, Homeward Bound (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16438).

The Discussion Thread is now open in The Shire to take on players.

~*~ Pio
:)

[Eorl of Rohan]

Eorl of Rohan is hosting a new RPG, Homeward Bound (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16438). The Discussion Thread is now open in The Shire to take on players. ~*~ Pio

+looks at Lommy, Rocky, Foley, Holly, Dip, and Los with puppydog eyes+

(Muhahaha, in my twisted mind, your nicknames have been degraded into one-syllable words!
So much easier than Thinlomien, Durelin, Folwen, Nogrod, Legate, and Loslote :p)

But seriously, please join! +More Puppydog Eyes+

And as for Scyrr, I'll have to wait for Nerindel to come around and heal him. Unless, hmm....

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

+looks at Lommy, Rocky, Foley, Holly, Dip, and Los with puppydog eyes+

(Muhahaha, in my twisted mind, your nicknames have been degraded into one-syllable words!
So much easier than Thinlomien, Durelin, Folwen, Nogrod, Legate, and Loslote :p)

But seriously, please join! +More Puppydog Eyes+

And as for Scyrr, I'll have to wait for Nerindel to come around and heal him. Unless, hmm....

Well, you could always try to send a private message to Nerindel, bringing that to her attention. (Or you could even make a co-operative post, if you wanted, although this is probably not necessary in this case, the thing is used more in the case of large dialogues... well, so that's rather something to bear in mind for the future :) )

As for your invitation, thanks, but at least for me, I have already so many RPGs running which should be finished that I really don't want to start a new one. Also, the setting is not possibly my favourite... but whatever, you might try to also perhaps ask other people (or maybe somebody might give you good tips as to who could be easily invited...)

[Folwren]

I've PMed Nerindel already and have received no response. I say, bring her up and have her do her healing business, just so the story can be continued. It's perfectly alright - really.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Okay, I posted for the boys and I began to deal with our dilemma by bringing Aedhel into the picture. Nerindel has not responded to my PM yet, as I mentioned above. I hope I am not seeming pushy or impulsive or anything, but I would so dislike seeing this stall.

Have fun with it, you all!

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

It seems lord Athanar's intention with his message was for Coen and Thornden to arrange the search and then come to him immediately. Immediately. :rolleyes::)

I took the liberty of Aedhel coming in and starting the first-aid.

[Folwren]

Haha....Yeah, I see that immediate did indeed mean...immediately...lol...

I'ma bout to be in class for the next several hours until very late tonight, so don't expect me to post....in fact, I may not be able to post tomorrow, either, so Dureling, go 'head. :D

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

I'ma bout to be in class for the next several hours until very late tonight, so don't expect me to post...It was "immediate call" to Coen and Thornden... not to you and Dury... :D

[Folwren]

It was "immediate call" to Coen and Thornden... not to you and Dury... :D

I know, I was just caught up in the moment. :p

I'm still in class, so I still can't post. Haha.

-- Foley

[Durelin]

I have a post prepared but am waiting on word from Foley because I decided to finally pay enough attention to what's going on to be able to ask her something. (Meaning that it is my fault that I am 'waiting' and not Foley's one bit!)

My post will bring Coen and Thornden to Athanar, with the search parties forming. If anyone wants to fill in gaps in my post, and turn it into a sort of co-post, I am completely open to that. Cause as it is now I just brush over Thornden and Hilderinc...

Angry Athanar is going to be great fun. :D :D

[Mnemosyne]

I think this fight has gotten to epic enough proportions that the Mistress of the Hall needs to know what's going on, too (from wherever she's been holed away since the trial in the morning); at the very least to order the staff to get things ready for the search parties.

Thoughts on who should let her know/how she should find out? And will Saeryn find out first, and how will that affect all of the power dynamics?

[Durelin]

I understand your frustration. It's something many playing a female character in most RPGs here feels I think. Wynflaed can blame her husband, who is too flustered to do much thinking at this point it seems. XD

Obviously I'm not an authority but -- I'm thinking it would make fine sense for Wynflaed to come out into the courtyard for whatever reason (whether she heard Athanar shouting/some commotion or not)...and it seems that by now that's all it would take to find out exactly what's going on. As far as I understand, that is where Athanar is with Scyrr and Aedhel. And with my post Coen and Thornden will be there...so she will be right in the middle of at least half of the...escapade.

I'm not sure what all will be involved in preparing the search parties. I'm not sure if these are long-term search parties or, 'let's see if we can nab him if he's still in the area' parties if you know what I mean...

And Saeryn knows, as she heard it from Kara. And promptly fainted, the poor woman. ;) So no worries, she hasn't moved in on anything yet....

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, it looks like a meeting point there now :D But I guess it will be easier to organise that way. Anybody can basically start to talk to Hilderinc, even Athanar, if the captains don't appear soon...

[Thinlómien]

*peeks in* I'll try to get a post up soon, although I guess my characters aren't instantly required right now. :)

[Nogrod]

I'm not sure what all will be involved in preparing the search parties. I'm not sure if these are long-term search parties or, 'let's see if we can nab him if he's still in the area' parties if you know what I mean...I'd say the latter. Surely they just want to see if Erbrand is still around to catch him or at least to protect the people against any further violence. So at least lord Athanar's idea is first of all to check the perimeters of the Mead Hall.

Now Thornden was reassuring Coen that E wouldn't act unprovoked but the newcomers will have little faith in that looking at what happened...

[Folwren]

Ooookay!!!!!! I'm super excited!!!!!

Durelin, I edited my post with the line you sent me, let me know if I put the right feeling in there for Coen while he spoke it.

I also added some more to the end of the post and Thornden and I just remembered something very important. Too bad we didn't remember it sooner, because now Thornden is probably in huge trouble. It has finally occurred to Thornden that Lithor was deserting when he saw Lithor earlier that day.

Have fun with it, folks!

-- Foley

P.S. Legate, thanks for reminding me about Quin in your last post.

P.P.S. Saeryn is in the kitchen and I don't know if she completely fainting. She probably just felt weak or something, so they're having her sit down and drink water or something.

[Eorl of Rohan]

"Press those wounds on his chest and lower side, firmly but gently"

Nogrod, just a minor inaccuracy, but Scyrr is suffering from internal injuries. Erbrand did not have a weapon, after all. Besides, pressing on a ruptured spleen? Ouch. I suppose the crushed larynx of the throat might bleed out, thus requiring some sort of plaster/linen to support it, like the one Lord Athenar and Aedhel is making, but otherwise Scyrr has no open wounds. Badly beat up and bruised, yes, but not cut up.

Otherwise, thanks for bringing in Aedhel at last. Finally Scyrr can come back into the fray! ;)

[Nogrod]

A knife flashed in the sunlight, it was Scyld’s. Erbrand struck relentlessly and hard. Soon he found his fingers around Scyld’s neck, pressing harder and tighter.

“I am not some dog you can kick. I am a man! I am a man!”

Soft small hands grasped his and beat his strong shoulders. Erbrand let go of Scyld’s throat. Ginna and Frodides knelt beside the Scyld. He was not moving.

“Fool!” Frodides said. “You will hang for this. You will hang!”Heh, I think I have read this passage like three or four times but only now I see that the knife is Scyrr's... The next sentence after the mentioning of the blade is saying that Erbrand "struck relentlessly and hard" - and then Scyrr was not moving any more - and it was said he would hang for this... I somehow thought it all the time that the knife was Erbrand's, even if the text clerly states it the other way around. :confused:

Blah. My bad.

Okay. You guys continue from here (I need to go to sleep like now and have no time to get online in 24 hours) and we''ll think about what to do with the discrepancy in the day after tomorrow or during the weekend?

If Nerindel comes forwards let her decide whether Aedhel is trying to help someone who has been near suffication or one with an open wound on the throat?

[Durelin]

Let me know if there are problems with my post, and if anyone (esp Foley) would like me to edit in anything from their character. I know I pushed things forward.

Annnd Athanar is now being attacked by three men at once! Heh.

I left my post as agreeing with Nogrod's that Scyrr has external bleeding (I mentioned Athanar having blood on his hands and sleeves), and so will edit if need be when that's sorted out.

[Nogrod]

I left my post as agreeing with Nogrod's that Scyrr has external bleeding (I mentioned Athanar having blood on his hands and sleeves), and so will edit if need be when that's sorted out.The easiest way to not make this a too big an issue would be just to decide that there is a bleeding wound on Scyrr's throat resulting from the fight as there was Scyrr's blade in the midst of it anyway. So it could have easily cut him whether Erbrand intentionally tried to cut Scyrr with his own blade or whether it was an accident while they struggled on the ground (there might be different beliefs on that and it's possible even Scyrr wouldn't know it for certain as it happened in the midst of a fight... what a source of possible different interpretations! :D)

That way I'd need only to edit out the short passage where Athanar tells his son to take care of the "other wounds"... and those orders could be easily changed into "don't just stand there, get some help!" or something... and no one else I think would need to change anything?

So the simplest scenario but also a bed for some further disagreements (which we don't have to use but which we can if we wish)? Would that be okay?

[Folwren]

I thought he would just be coughing up blood. If he has external wounds, better it be on other parts of his body - the throat seems so fragile, so vulnerable, that a knife in that region would surely mean death. My two cents.

Dury, I'm fine with what you posted. Only, I did add Thornden mentioning Lithor's name. Nothing explicit, but would Coen not notice?

Have to get back to class.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Okay. Lord Athanar has given his orders for the search parties.

I thought he would just be coughing up blood. If he has external wounds, better it be on other parts of his body - the throat seems so fragile, so vulnerable, that a knife in that region would surely mean death. My two cents.If you get your main artery cut from your throat you'd surely be a goner in minutes - and looking at the things right here Scyrr would be no more. But if the cut is on the vein you would survive if attended to in time (I should know: my High-School dentist cut my vein while removing my wisdom tooth and I survived for a few days before it got so bad we went to ask what was the problem with me bleeding all the time and going quite pale indeed... :eek:) And the windpipe would be quite vulnerable too... But someone with a cut in the throat could as well survive.

One party will remain here and search the village and see to its safety.Would you change the word "village" into the word "Mead Hall"? :)


One thing I especially like with this setting is that it seems no one yet knows Lithor has vanished as well... anyone willing to come up with the realisation of that fact should do it. It will be interesting to see how different people react to that.

[Eorl of Rohan]

The easiest way to not make this a too big an issue would be just to decide that there is a bleeding wound on Scyrr's throat.

Yes, that's fine with me. :)

However, then it would no longer be assault and battery case, would it? If Erbrand cut Scyrr's throat, notwithstanding whatever mischance might have guided his hand, it would be attempted murder that he'd be charged with. Ah, well, so much better for Scyrr then.

[Folwren]

One thing I especially like with this setting is that it seems no one yet knows Lithor has vanished as well... anyone willing to come up with the realisation of that fact should do it. It will be interesting to see how different people react to that.

Well, that's the thing. Thornden has just figured it out. He put two and two together in the stables there when he suggested that Lithor be one of the leaders of the search parites. Here, let me copy and paste what I edited in my post:

“Captain,” Thornden said without slowing his pace. “If Athanar does expect us to go out with the search parties, after he has spoken to us, I would rather I was one to lead one of the search parties out. It is absolutely unnecessary to keep a group behind to protect the others, Erbrand is not dangerous unprovoked, and he will not make any further attacks, I can vouch for that. As you say, it is improbable that he stayed and tried to hide, but if he did, Hilderinc will be capable of searching the place. Also…” and here he paused. “If we do overcome him, I feel I should be there. And if we are not to go with the search parties, send Balvir, or Matrim, or Lithor...Lithor!" Thornden stopped in his tracks and things became suddenly clearer to him. He had seen Lithor during the drills, not coming down to join them, but riding...somewhere. He had not thought much of it at the time, uncertain if what had happened that morning had given Lithor different duties than joining the drill, but now he knew that had not been the case. Thornden had just seen the second rider beyond Lithor, and though he had not seen his face, he now guessed his identity.

So....Thornden knows. I don't know what to do. Groin wrote that Lithor and Thornden made eye contact, so Thornden is very aware of Lithor riding off, but until now, he's said nothing to anybody. I'm fairly shaking in my boots for Thornden's sake, but I don't know what to do. Should he tell Coen that he thinks he knows that direction they went because he watched them as they rode off? Should he hold his peace? He already has a LOT of explaining to do, and his he holds his peace now, he'll have even more to do...but what would be more natural for a man to do? If he says something now, it's like sticking his head in a noose and maybe if he stays quiet he won't have to say anything at all. So should Thornden play the coward and say nothing and try to get away with it? My gut feelings tells me that that's not Thornden's way. But things have changed lately and maybe Thornden's a little wary of what's going on...

But, then, I like excitement for my characters. So I don't think I will have him hold his peace.

I'll post tomorrow sometime.

-- Foley

P.S. Ah, one more thing - Eorl, Scyrr is your character. No one has any right to tell you how badly wounded your character is, whether or not it is likely that he would survive such wounds as the rest of us are imagining. If you do not want him to be cut up, he doesn't have to be cut up. If you don't mind, then it's fine the way it is, but you have every right and every rule in the book to back you up if you decide that you want any of our posts changed in order to make Scyrr's condition more to your imagining.

But if you're worried about Erbrand....stop worrying. No matter if Scyrr has been cut with a knife or not, Erbrand is already practically charged with murder, so a scratch that hasn't killed him won't make anything better or worse. We need not worry about it, though - they won't be brought to bay, that much is already written out, unbeknownst to all of our characters running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

[Durelin]

Yes I need to edit my post because I was bad and didn't re-read Foleys post before posting, and so did not acknowledge what Thornden said about Lithor. Which definitely would be acknowledged, lol. Thank you Foley for pointing that out, and thanks so much for being so nice about the edit.

Y'all are going crazy on the thread, too...not sure I'm going to be able to keep up!

Edit: Perhaps Coen and Thornden should inform Athanar that Lithor may be involved as well? That would take an edit on Nogrod's part which I don't want to ask him to do. Sorry, there was kinda a flurry of posting there lol. Either way, I don't care.

[Folwren]

Edit: Perhaps Coen and Thornden should inform Athanar that Lithor may be involved as well? That would take an edit on Nogrod's part which I don't want to ask him to do. Sorry, there was kinda a flurry of posting there lol. Either way, I don't care.

Well, obviously Nogrod will have to put in his two cents here, seeing as it is he who will have to edit, but I can see it going either way: 1) Coen can say nothing about Lithor because he's not sure of anything himself AND Athanar is obviously in a rush to get parties out, so Coen can always fine tune things as the parties are being put together and sent out or 2) Coen can say Lithor is probably involved and Thornden probably knows which way they went because he saw them riding off together. But since this involves Coen and then Athanar/Nogrod, I won't say if I think one way is better than the other.

I looked and saw that you edited your post some, but not enough to make anything change.....

I'm looking forward to see what you all decide about telling Athanar or not...

I need to get to class.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

If we think of the relative ease we could pass this situation about talking of Lithor, then one of you two, Foley or Dury, could pick on the ending of my last post: The two were standing in front of him and exchanging careful glances as they were not quite sure whether they had been given a leave or not.

"Go! Go now!"So one of you might raise the point exactly there? Athanar has actually given your characters little chances to make any points as he has been basically bossing them the short while they have been in his company so thta place could be as good as any for one - or both - to come forwards with things about Lithor?

And I could edit out the last "Go now"- part from there easily if you thought it better one of your characters would raise his voice before Athanar feels he needs to break the silence to send them off.

But I think the most important consideration is that which Foley went through here a few posts up; what would your character do? Would he open his mouth, would he wait for a better opportunity knowing the risk that entails, would he not say anything?

If you think one of your characters would have actually acted totally differently from what has been written thus far, then let me know and I'll change what is needed. But if the current setting / suggestion would be okay, that would be the easiest way forwards.

But your call.


PS. Eorl: Foley is right. In the last instance you are the one to decide on the injuries, especially now when Groin is not here anymore. We others can offer you different POV's but in the end you decide.

[Durelin]

I don't want to be a pain or make this more complicated than it needs to be. I think Coen would say something -- he does NOT like Lithor and would want to give Athanar all the info he could, and isn't daunted by Athanar's anger.

I can post that he says something about it in my next post, and they can discuss it briefly. Or if you'd rather, you can edit in that Coen says that 'There is one other thing, my lord -- Lithor may have been involved.' or something along those lines, and have Athanar respond as you will. (I only suggest the latter in case you want to keep things moving in that way, not cause I want to put the effort onto you or anything!)

Completely up to you. I am also fine with not bothering -- maybe in the mess of things Coen simply forgot. Anything's possible at this point I think. :D

And I am sorry -- I've kinda botched this up. Anyway, whatever your answer, I will act then and stop asking questions and suggesting various possibilities... ;)

[Folwren]

You're not botching anything up, Dury, so don't think it. Have Coen say whatever you want him to say, even if it means asking Nogrod edit his post. That's what role-playing here is all about. :D

But does Coen know anything definite? All he knows is that Thornden mentioned Lithor's name and then suddenly stopped talking. So he's suspicious, but does he know anything? What will he say to Athanar? "I think Thornden knows something and isn't telling anybody."? That's funny, actually. Makes me chuckle. Funny, but unlikely. So, really, Coen needs to either find out more, or Thornden will have to speak up. (I've decided that Thornden will say something. He's not one to hide anything, even if he thinks it might get him into trouble.)

In fact, chances are Thornden WILL say something right now, even if Coen doesn't. So, let me know if you want to post something, Durelin, and if you don't, then I will. Not tonight, obviously, but tomorrow sometime.

-- Foley

[Durelin]

Well, he noticed that Lithor was absent, so he is making assumptions based on his...not liking Lithor. :D

But in that case (that Thornden would probably speak up), perhaps it would be best for Coen to kinda give Thornden a look to encourage him to speak up (whether or not that's necessary), and Thornden can say what he knows.

That could be what the look is between them that is interpreted by Athanar as them not knowing if they were dismissed... ;)

We might have to ask Legate to edit or place your/my post ahead of his, though, since he has written that Coen and Thornden are heading towards Hilderinc and Aflorgaed. :\ Not that it's a huge deal.

[Eorl of Rohan]

Legate, can you make Hilderinc and Áforglaed interact with Scyrr as well as Thornen and Coen? o(^^)o Otherwise, Scyrr will probably be out cold until nightfall. I already have a nightfall post written, but from the way this roleplay is going, it's going to be days (real-time based) till nightfall. As for Scyrr's injuries, let's leave it at this: Most of the injuries are internal, but Erbrand also laid open Scyrr's throat in the heat of the scuffle. This way no one has to edit their post overmuch. Looking forward to everyone's posts!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

We might have to ask Legate to edit or place your/my post ahead of his, though, since he has written that Coen and Thornden are heading towards Hilderinc and Aflorgaed. :\ Not that it's a huge deal.

Nay, I can do whatever, I can edit the post according to what you do or move it later. Just first make the definitive solution and after you are certain that you have the posts the way you want them, then I am going to edit it accordingly :)

Legate, can you make Hilderinc and Áforglaed interact with Scyrr as well as Thornen and Coen? o(^^)o Otherwise, Scyrr will probably be out cold until nightfall. I already have a nightfall post written, but from the way this roleplay is going, it's going to be days (real-time based) till nightfall. As for Scyrr's injuries, let's leave it at this: Most of the injuries are internal, but Erbrand also laid open Scyrr's throat in the heat of the scuffle. This way no one has to edit their post overmuch. Looking forward to everyone's posts!

Sure I am going to, but I was not planning to do that now, as Scyrr seems to be mostly between fainting and being resuscitated. It certainly does not make sense in the middle of Athanar's outburst to have some random soldiers coming along and starting chatting "hi Scyrr, how are you" when meanwhile the officers are arguing about the pursuit. I think there will be time either after the pursuit (for Hilderinc) or, if Áforglaed is not coming along, I could easily write for him and make him keep company to Scyrr.

But anyway, just relax. It really is not a standard to have ten posts per day... It's certainly bad in this sense to have a character who is currently incapable of taking any action, but maybe you could fill your time with writing about some of Scyrr's half-hallucinatory perception of the events around him, describing some of his inner thoughts (which might be a bit hazy), or something?

[Folwren]

I think it would be alright if this were added to the end of Nogrod's post. Since Thornden is just saying what he knows right now, there's not really enough for me to post an entire post. But I'm changing the little bit before Athanar's final command:


The two officers hesitated. Coenred looked sidelong at Thornden and Thornden glanced towards the ground. Athanar looked from one to the other, not understanding why they waited.

“Go! Go now!”

But Thornden still hesitated. Coenred, too, did not move when he saw that his lieutenant halted. Thornden looked Athanar directly in the eye as he said,

“My lord, I do not think multiple search parties are necessary, because I know which direction he went. And Lithor went with him. I should have spoken earlier, when I saw Lithor riding out, but I had no idea what had transpired here.”

Now, is anyone else curious to know what it'd be like if Thornden DIDN'T say anything now and only spoke up later when Lithor was found to be definitely missing? Or is just me?

[Folwren]

Okay, I have made a momentous decision. (Momentous for my character, anyhow.) Thornden will not say anything about seeing Lithor. Not now, at any rate. So, Nogrod, do not edit that ending into your post.

Durelin, if you wish to have Coenred say something, by all means do so. Maybe Thornden will speak if Coen does, but if nothing changes, Thornden won't speak.

I hope to utilize either Quin or Saeryn soon. Don't know when...

looking for some fun action from other players, too. :D

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I feel like I'm spamming this thread...

I posted for Thornden, but my post really doesn't take up any game time at all. In fact, it is kind of the time when in Nogrod's post it says the two soldiers looked at each other. It can either remain where it is, or Legate could edit it into the beginning of his post. If he does, I will delete it after he's copied and pasted it.

I wrote it just to give you an idea of what he might be thinking (why I figured he might not say anything). Coenred might have suspicions, Durelin, and go ahead and have him say whatever he might say as Captain. No one can know what Thornden is thinking about, but Coenred might know he knows something.

I haven't decided if Thornden will eventually tell someone that he did know which way they went. That can wait until later. Maybe another player will figure out how to get their character to draw it out of him. :D

It's been really quiet today...besides my incessant posting. ;)

-- Foley

EDIT: I had another thought, but really didn't want to post again.

Anyone with female characters who would like to work with them but don't know how (Modtryth or Wynflaed...or someone to post for Frodides or Kara), I am willing to start writing about the women in the kitchen, so I'll be willing to play in that sector of the game. I just don't really feel like doing it by myself, which is why I opted to post for Thornden instead of Saeryn today.

[Eorl of Rohan]

Ah, has Thornen descended to deliberate misleading now? How the mighty have fallen! :p

I could try posting for Kara, though I would have to re-read the past Kara posts (but with my midterms over, that's a piece of cake). Still interested, Foley?

[Loslote]

EDIT: I had another thought, but really didn't want to post again.

Anyone with female characters who would like to work with them but don't know how (Modtryth or Wynflaed...or someone to post for Frodides or Kara), I am willing to start writing about the women in the kitchen, so I'll be willing to play in that sector of the game. I just don't really feel like doing it by myself, which is why I opted to post for Thornden instead of Saeryn today.

I could have Lilige go visit the kitchen. I probably won't be able to post until later tonight, though. :)

[Folwren]

I am ready. :D I've been waiting for, like, a day for someone to post. I thought I'd killed the thread. Loslote, I would love to have your maid join us, too.

Eorl....don't say he has 'descended'...say rather, he has decided. It's not a bad thing to be loyal to one's friends.

-- Foley

[Eorl of Rohan]

Eorl....don't say he has 'descended'...say rather, he has decided. It's not a bad thing to be loyal to one's friends. - Foley

Sorry, my joke was in bad taste. In truth, Thornen is my favorite character in this entire RPG :p
That was actually the reason I said I'd like Thornen to stumble on the scene when Scyrr & Kara conflict happened, so I could try interacting with him ;)

[Folwren]

Sorry, my joke was in bad taste. In truth, Thornen is my favorite character in this entire RPG :p
That was actually the reason I said I'd like Thornen to stumble on the scene when Scyrr & Kara conflict happened, so I could try interacting with him


Wow...I'm flattered. Are you just buttering me up? :p

Your joke actually did amuse me. I was teasing back, in all honesty.

We should make certain that scene happens with Kara and Scyrr, then....it might take a while, but it should be good.

Lottie, glad to have seen you post. I will post later this evening. I really wish I had time to say something now, but I really don't. :( Thanks so much for doing something with the women! I'm excited again about using Saeryn and having a conversation with your character.
Eorl, if you're planning on writing some for the girls, too, don't wait for me to post. Just jump right in.

[Eorl of Rohan]

We should make certain that scene happens with Kara and Scyrr, then....it might take a while, but it should be good.

Though Scyrr has every right to be scared of Thornen if this scene does occur, if the young steward has the force of personality that I think he has. :p

I have laid the groundworks for the scene in today's post. ;) Kara has pretty much admitted her romantic involvement with Erbrand and that that she knows where Erbrand was headed for in Lilige's hearing, so it isn't too inconceivable that Scyrr would eventually hear of this from Lilige. That is, if she either liked him or sympathized with him enough to tell him what he learned. If Scyrr wasn't friendly with her, (This may depend on whether Lilige was pretty; he wouldn't be a jerk to someone he likes or perhaps even has a crush on! Tho' I do not know whether this is a line that you'd be willing to pursue, Loslote), then he would have to find out from some other source.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Looks like I somehow got the role to look like the one who always appears and compains, but honestly, that's not my intention at all... I want to be helpful and constructive...

But Eorl, I think in your post for Kara, you should probably not make her to be so... hmm... sentimental. Okay, I am probably one of those who know about Kara the least around here, having never been around when she was still an active character, but that much I know for certain that she was not that desperately in love or anything like that, and apparently not so prone to such a psychic downbreak either. That said, of course she would be shaken from the rather dramatic events - as much as anybody would - and for losing a friend under such circumstances, but not sure if some of her inner thoughts would be in the way you portrayed it.

But anyway, I suggest for now just leaving it open, but waiting for somebody who has been playing with Kath before and eventually they might tell you more as to how to e.g. edit your post for Kara or something to make it fit her character better. But if the general point is of her to spill out the information, there will surely be a way to do it in a way fitting for her character. But others will surely be better judges in that, so just wait when somebody who knows Kara better tells you...

(I am saying this mainly so that if somebody wanted to continue from this post... so that we might sort of keep the question of the exact words of Kara and the continuity open.)

[Eorl of Rohan]

Looks like I somehow got the role to look like the one who always appears and complains, but honestly, that's not my intention at all. I want to be helpful and constructive.

Well, you *are* "The Voice That Gainsayeth". I bow to your wisdom, Legate of Amon Lanc. ;)
I apologize if I portrayed Kara in an unsuitable way; I am plagued by an unsatiable love for melodrama that I just can't seem to wean myself of.

[Folwren]

It is true that Kath did not write very dramatically for Kara. She (Kara) is a pretty sensible, down to earth girl, who gets along quite easily with everybody. I read your post and liked it a lot, really. I thought her thought processes were fine. At the end, though, she probably would collapse. She can burst into tears. I kind of see her standing next to Saeryn, holding onto one hand as she says what you have her say about Erbrand telling her where to find her.

I really like the idea of Lilige telling Scyrr that Kara loved Erbrand. In fact, she doesn't even have to tell Scyrr that Kara is Erbrand's love, she can just let out the fact that Kara says she knows where Erbrand went, and that will probably get Scyrr to come after her anyway.

I'm going to try to post something for Saeryn tonight.

How are all the men doing in the courtyard, Durelin and Nogrod?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Okay, I posted, and although Saeryn did not answer Kara verbally, she did respond to what she said. And she's sent Lilige off to get Wynflaed, which will give both Lottie and Mnemosyne something to post.

-- Foley

[Loslote]

I have laid the groundworks for the scene in today's post. ;) Kara has pretty much admitted her romantic involvement with Erbrand and that that she knows where Erbrand was headed for in Lilige's hearing, so it isn't too inconceivable that Scyrr would eventually hear of this from Lilige. That is, if she either liked him or sympathized with him enough to tell him what he learned. If Scyrr wasn't friendly with her, (This may depend on whether Lilige was pretty; he wouldn't be a jerk to someone he likes or perhaps even has a crush on! Tho' I do not know whether this is a line that you'd be willing to pursue, Loslote), then he would have to find out from some other source.

I'm fine with that. Lilige would tell him; she sympathizes with Athanar's men and would never expect him to put the knowledge to any use at all, much less violent use...she just wouldn't think of it.

As for the other part, Lilige's an average Rohirrim woman. Scyrr can like her if you want him to; Lilige probably wouldn't notice, and if she did, would decide to ignore anything she did notice, assuming she was just imagining it...so do whatever you like with that. :)

I really like the idea of Lilige telling Scyrr that Kara loved Erbrand. In fact, she doesn't even have to tell Scyrr that Kara is Erbrand's love, she can just let out the fact that Kara says she knows where Erbrand went, and that will probably get Scyrr to come after her anyway.

It does make the most sense. The local people would be hesitant to tell him, but Lilige wouldn't.

EDIT: Hey, Mnemo, where would Wynflaed be?

[Thinlómien]

As for Eorl's post for Kara, it should be edited at least a bit - for Kath definitely stated Kara did not want to marry Erbrand, and we should keep loyal to that. So if you edit it so that she's just very upset by all that's happened but remove all the thoughts of marriage and kids, because whatever Groin wrote, Kath didn't write Kara as if she was truly in love with Erbrand, more that she liked him and didn't have any strong feelings (yet). :)

Anyway, nice job people! I will write as soon as I manage... But I'm really busy atm.

[Folwren]

As for Eorl's post for Kara, it should be edited at least a bit - for Kath definitely stated Kara did not want to marry Erbrand, and we should keep loyal to that. So if you edit it so that she's just very upset by all that's happened but remove all the thoughts of marriage and kids, because whatever Groin wrote, Kath didn't write Kara as if she was truly in love with Erbrand, more that she liked him and didn't have any strong feelings (yet). :)


Okay. I'd obviously forgotten that.

-- Foley

[Eorl of Rohan]

Ah, I see. Thank you, Lommy. I based my post mostly off Groin's and thought that they were in love with each other.
I have to run to school right now but will edit (and tone down Kara's emotions) as soon as I come back!

EDIT. I toned down Kara's emotions and took out the incriminating ruminations about marriage as requested.

[Folwren]

Nogrod? Durelin? Are either you around? Is anybody around? I wrote Mnemo, and she said she'd be posting as soon as life slowed down for her... I was getting all excited and then things fell quiet. :( I'm sad now.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Nogrod? Durelin? Are either you around? I'm around and more or less alive. I will write something tomorrow (it's now 3.30 AM).

I was getting all excited and then things fell quiet. :( I'm sad now.
Don't be sad Foley! People just have different timetables... :)

I'll promise to catch up with lord Athanar tomorrow.

[Mnemosyne]

I will hopefully have a post up for Wynflaed tonight. Should have enough free time to manage that at least...

[Nogrod]

Foley & Dury: In the situation between the three I'm not willing to make any more decisons on your behalf. Lord Athanar takes the initiative now but only by asking them what's going on. You should react before I continue.

If you want to write any more forwards I can say that lord Athanar would naturally be annoyed he had been not told the facts immediately (if the two or either of them will talk) but he woud be easily persuaded to understand he hadn't given them too much time to say anything. And his basic leaning towards the two is positive; Coen for his expereince and trust on him and Thornden because he thinks he's a good man (with the little experience he has of him) and because he needs to be in good relations with him - having Thornden rebelling would be disasterous...

[Durelin]

I'm sorry, I've been very busy. I have two weeks left in the semester. I will try to post as soon as I can.

If you want to move on, not a big deal obviously. If you want to just make Coen say that he thinks Lithor may have been involved, you can do that, but I know no one necessarily wants to handle that.

I realize I needed to make the move here to continue it but I just haven't had the time, sorry.

[Mnemosyne]

Eorl, 1). Wynflaed is meeting Saeryn in the hall, not the kitchen. So I don't know what's going on with Kara now, but maybe she should be interacting with the women who are still there.

2). Wynflaed has a firm step, not a silken tread. A small thing, I know, but it can speak volumes about the character.

[Nogrod]

If you want to move on, not a big deal obviously. If you want to just make Coen say that he thinks Lithor may have been involved, you can do that, but I know no one necessarily wants to handle that.That I think would leave it up to you Foley. So if Coen isn't offering the insecure speculation (insecure to him) about Lithor actively (if I read Dury right), then it would be up to whether Thornden would like to say something or not...

If you Foley think Thornden would say nothing, just post something or tell us here he will turn on his heels and go. If he will say something though, then feel free to use lord Athanar in your post along the lines I specified in my earlier post here in the admin thread - or PM me for any responses you'd like to have from lord Athanar.

[Folwren]

I sent Durelin a PM telling her that Thornden would say nothing, so it's really up to Coenred to mention Lithor, if anyone does at this point in time. Since what Coen will say will have so much affect on my character, I'd rather not decide if he says anything or what he says. I plan on having Thornden say nothing at all, but those plans might change, depending on what Coenred says, or what Athanar asks, etc....this is a place where it would be lots of fun for all the characters' writers to write. Hopefully Durelin will have some time to post eventually. I'm willing to wait...I just got impatient because everyone was absolutely silent for days.

As for Thornden, he is ready to go and do what Athanar told him - get a couple small search parties to search the marshes and then oversee a search over the immediate vicinity.

Mnemo, I'll post for Saeryn hopefully later today.

-- Foley

EDIT: I realized that sounded too authoritarian. I didn't mean that. ... We can continue, if you want to, Nogrod, I just don't want to write for Coenred.

[Nogrod]

EDIT: I realized that sounded too authoritarian. I didn't mean that. ... We can continue, if you want to, Nogrod, I just don't want to write for Coenred.Don't be embarrassed. You just said what you thought and which were the limits you'd feel comfortable of going... no problem here I think. On the contrary. It's good to know how you feel about the situation.

I sent Durelin a PM telling her that Thornden would say nothing, so it's really up to Coenred to mention Lithor, if anyone does at this point in time.Let's give Dury a chance to write a post then - and really Dury - you could just make one to three sentences where he either says something or goes to accomplish the mission. We can then take it up from there if you are busy.

As for Thornden, he is ready to go and do what Athanar told him - get a couple small search parties to search the marshes and then oversee a search over the immediate vicinity.So he has decided not to tell lord Athanar where the two had gone to secure their escape? That's actually quite okay as we need to get them out of the story and so any chance of the people of the MH actually getting hold of them would be a bad idea... and there's always the possibility that if we had no other tensions at one stage of the story (now it looks highly unlikely, but if) then we could make lord Athanar learn that Thornden knew where the two were heading (and that they were the two of them) and start to think why didn't he tell him about it! :confused:

But I think we have enough things to settle without that twist right now, or what do you think?

[Folwren]

So he has decided not to tell lord Athanar where the two had gone to secure their escape? That's actually quite okay as we need to get them out of the story and so any chance of the people of the MH actually getting hold of them would be a bad idea... and there's always the possibility that if we had no other tensions at one stage of the story (now it looks highly unlikely, but if) then we could make lord Athanar learn that Thornden knew where the two were heading (and that they were the two of them) and start to think why didn't he tell him about it! :confused:

Yes, he's decided not to say anything in order to secure their escape. I hope my last post for him on the gamethread kind of said that...in a round about way. lol. Yes, I do see it as a future encounter. I figured that in order for Groin's plan to have them escape to work, Thornden would have to decide to remain silent, since Groin also wrote about Lithor seeing Thornden and practically telling him fair well, from a distance. But I like it this way.

But I think we have enough things to settle without that twist right now, or what do you think?

Yeah, I plan on waiting until this game day has ended. It'll be a few weeks RL time at the least before Athanar knows anything about Thornden's ... deceit, if it must be called that. ;)

But, on the other hand, things MIGHT turn out that Thornden is forced into saying something. One never knows when you play with multiple players.

I'm willing to wait for Dury. I'm really excited again.

-- Foley

[Eorl of Rohan]

Eorl, 1). Wynflaed is meeting Saeryn in the hall, not the kitchen. So I don't know what's going on with Kara now, but maybe she should be interacting with the women who are still there. 2). Wynflaed has a firm step, not a silken tread. A small thing, I know, but it can speak volumes about the character.

Ah, okay. +dutifully trudges off to make the necessary changes and to rewrite the post to include conversation with Frodides+

Yeah, I plan on waiting until this game day has ended. It'll be a few weeks RL time at the least before Athanar knows anything about Thornden's ... deceit, if it must be called that.

But in an hour or few weeks, how would Lord Athanar EVER know of Thornen's... ah... closemouthedness?
It's not like anyone else has seen Thornen see Lithor ride off, as they would have then seen the direction Lithor and Erbrand ride off as well.
Unless Thornen confesses himself, (which would NOT be a prudent move), I don't see how anyone could ever get wise to what Thornen had seen of Lithor.
.

[Folwren]

But in an hour or few weeks, how would Lord Athanar EVER know of Thornen's... ah... closemouthedness?
It's not like anyone else has seen Thornen see Lithor ride off, as they would have then seen the direction Lithor and Erbrand ride off as well.
Unless Thornen confesses himself, (which would NOT be a prudent move), I don't see how anyone could ever get wise to what Thornen had seen of Lithor.
.

Don't be so boring. ;) the time hasn't come yet to decide what happens. We'll cross that bridge when we're ready. :p

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I got a post up for Saeryn, and it's actually half way decent. I went back to read my previous post that I'd written for Saeryn for when Erbrand left, and I saw there that I had mentiond that Saeryn had seen Lithor riding away, too, so Thornden is not the only one who knows that Lithor has deserted.

Mnemo, it's your go.

Nogrod, you good to post next with the men in the courtyard, or do you want me to say anything?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Okay, so what needs to happen here? Mnemo can post for Wynflaed. Lommy or I can post for the kiddos. Someone could post for Frodides in the kitchen (I'm considering doing that myself so that Loslote and Eorl can write something). Nogrod or Dury can post something with the Thornden, Coen, and Athanar triangle, or if no one wants to say anything further, one of us can get the search parties under way. Lommy can post for any one of her characters... Legate is kind of held up waiting for the search parties to start.

I don't know where any one else's characters are, so if you're around, but I didn't mention you, and you would like to post, fire ahead.

-- Foley

[Mnemosyne]

Sorry, things got really busy here IRL. I'll be able to post on Wednesday at the earliest.

~Mnemo

[Nogrod]

Nogrod or Dury can post something with the Thornden, Coen, and Athanar triangle, or if no one wants to say anything further, one of us can get the search parties under way.I've been waiting for Dury to post as in a sense my posting there last time already forced the situation for you two's characters (lord Athanar making guesses meant the two hadn't voluntarily or fast enough brought the subject forwards - which is in a sense important as it makes them reluctant to open the issue) so I'd hate to force things on your characters another time (finalising the fact that given a possibility to speak they both decide to keep their mouths shut). But if Dury isn't posting in a day or two I think we should call it off and the search should begin - and thus make it a fact neither of the two wished to speak their minds to their lord.

[Folwren]

Oh...Nogrod...Durelin did post. She squeezed something in there. It surprised me because she had thought she couldn't post for a while, and it ended up that she could. So, unless I'm mistaken, you can go ahead and write something.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Oh...Nogrod...Durelin did post. She squeezed something in there.Heh, my bad...

I squeezed something in as well, but I don't want to make the decisions on behalf of Thornden. So it's up to you now Foley.

[Folwren]

Gee thanks, Noggy. Just the question Thornden wanted put to him. ;) :p I'll post as soon as I can. Thanks so much for continuing.

-- Foley

[Mnemosyne]

Should be able to post for Wynflaed tonight. Smack me if I don't.

[Folwren]

Aweseom, Mnemo. I'm not quite sure how I'll smack you if you can't get around to writing it, though.

I posted for Thornden.

And sometime earlier, someone asked, "How will Athanar ever find out that Thornden HAD seen Lithor and Erbrand running?" and the answer just came to me. When Lithor stopped and looked down at the drill, he paused for a long time, unsheathed his sword, and dropped it, before riding away - all while making eye contact with Thornden. Therefore, any one of the soldiers might have seen him, and, if they had looked, also seen Thornden. I can really picture Quin seeing it, but if anyone (like Legate's character) wants to have their character observe it, that would work, too. The only problem I see with having Legate's character see it is that he would say something NOW and put the search parties on the right track, whereas Quin may be completely oblivious, not even know that who he saw was Lithor and that they're searching for him, and end up not saying anything until later, after Erbrand and Lithor have had a chance to make their escape.

What do y'all think?

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm... it would be most interesting if I could come up with a reason for Hilderinc not to tell the truth in this situation as well, or not at least from the beginning and pretend to be just stupid or oblivious. I don't see it as completely impossible, but it will certainly be a challenge for me to think of a way to make it make sense.

One way how to "save it" would be if only Thornden approached him (and Coen would e.g. just go ahead to quickly rouse the rest of the men, leaving Thornden to explain to Hilderinc and appoint them to gather search parties on their own or something), that way, Hilderinc only would talk to Thornden (I could make Áforglaed react to the news and then just briefly take a look at Scyrr, so he'd be out of the way too). It might be then up to Thornden to either convince Hilderinc not to tell anything (ai, ai? If you, Folwren, want a challenge, then this would definitely be one; we also could make it a co-post) or to somehow avoid the question "but sir, didn't Lithor actually talk to you or something?" It would be an interesting thing if it could be done, like, how much it takes to convince Hilderinc that Erbrand is harmless and he should be let alone and whatnot, or if Thornden is going to outright lie (somehow I pity him, he got into this horrible situation and it seems he just cannot stop lying... that's exactly how this web of lies forms and spreads)...

But if it does not work, we can leave it be and make some other soldier notice.

[Eorl of Rohan]

Ooo, Afo's dropping in, does this mean that Scyrr has a chance of posting?

PS. By the way, Foley, our roleplay thread 'Homeward Bound' is only waiting for your character bio in order to start!

[Folwren]

Ooo, Afo's dropping in, does this mean that Scyrr has a chance of posting?

Who's Afo? [Edit: Never mind, I figured it out. Yes, it probably means Scyrr has a chance of posting.]

PS. By the way, Foley, our roleplay thread 'Homeward Bound' is only waiting for your character bio in order to start!

Ha! Nice way to be convincing and guilt trip me into fulfilling my promise. ;) :p Okay, I'll take the hint. I sent you a PM yesterday, though, and can't really get my bio written until you answer.

Legate, I don't quite know if I understand you, but I am quite up to a challenge and would love to do a combined post with you. We should start sooner than later. I'll work on my bio for Eorl's game, and then I'll see about starting a PM post and sending it to you. By the time we finish writing it, Nogrod and/or Durelin may have posted and gotten Thornden and Coen on their way away from lord Athanar. Unless....Nogrod and Durelin, do you mind if, after a while, one of you haven't posted, can Legate, Eorl, or I move things along out there?

-- Foley

[Gwathagor]

Hey, everyone, just wanted to apologize for being so busy over the past couple of months. All my writing time has been devoted to working on my screenplays and short scripts for grad school, but I may have more time this summer. We'll see. At any rate, please feel free to use Crabannan in any way that fits with the precedent I've established for him, and I'll be back at some point in the future.

[Eorl of Rohan]

I moved the time to nightfall; if anyone had something that they intended to do while it was still day, then please tell me, and I will redo my post.

[Mnemosyne]

Hum. Wynflaed, I believe, was going to talk to Athanar, with the possibility of Saeryn tagging along.

On the one hand this should be resolved...

On the other hand, this is my last day with guaranteed computer access *points at sig* and when I'm back I'm not sure if Nog will be in the area.

So I'll leave this to other people's hands. I certainly see no problem in moving Scyrr's timeline forward as long as the rest of us (the search party comes to mind) can catch up later.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Exactly. There is certainly a lot which should happen today, starting with the search party and continuing with whatever could happen after that.

[Folwren]

Yes, to give Scyrr a chance of being played, that timeline can be moved forward. Hopefully, others can post and get these other characters moving at the current time.

I wrote half a post and then sent it to Nogrod to see if he could continue it for the scene in the courtyard, just so that Legate's characters could become mobalized.

Legate, did you want to do a PM co-written post? What's your plan of action on that?

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, that was the basic suggestion, although now I am not so sure anymore about my free time in the upcoming days... but I think I should find a few moments to write every day if nothing else. So, effectively, yes - if you want to do it, you may go ahead and start something and we can put something together...

[Thinlómien]

We should get stuff done, I think. The nightfall post was a good reminder of that. ;) I'll check if my characters can do anything to make the storyline go further and post before next week...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

We're in the process of making a co-post with Folwren, and I assume there might be something else underway... but yes, a bit more activity would be nice :) There are many places where something can happen...

[Folwren]

Is anybody around? Legate and I have written a post together and it's been done for a while now, but we're waiting on things to move forward a little on this game thread first.

I also thought I should tell you that tomorrow evening, I am leaving for staff training, so I will be gone from tomorrow evening until Friday evening, so if anything DOES happen in my absence, just know that's how long I'll be gone.

That means, Legate, that if something happens and our post is able to be posted, you can go ahead and put it up.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, seems this has frozen a bit. I haven't been around for a few days and e.g. Lommy (and I assume Nogrod too, for partially similar, partially other work reasons) have been more or less busy too lately... I am going to be around now for a while, though, I assume we might find the summer time to be rather chaotic for the RPGs' development... as it always is. But if we can move ahead, yes, I suggest everybody can slowly post just how it goes, if there is not anything they should wait for...

That said, I second Foley's question (or appeal) - we have our post ready, so just waiting e.g. if Athanar will dismiss the commanders with some more instructions or if something else happens...

[Nogrod]

As Legate said... I have been more or less killed by my work. But for now I should have some freedom at last - until our Grand Tour begins...

It's late now but I will check the thread tomorrow and post something to get things moving from Athanar's part.

Sorry about being away but it has been quite an incredible rush the last few weeks.

[Folwren]

Looks like things are waking up a little again. Great.

I'll be leaving in about five hours and won't be returning until Friday. Legate, feel free to post the post if it's time. I'll hopefully write something this weekend if it's time for me to write something.

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

*waves* Still alive...

I will read both this thread and the actual thread and write something for all my characters before June 17th... but then there'll be a long silence from me.

[Nogrod]

Okay. Finally back...

Let me know if I have used Thornden, Coen, Wynflaed or Saeryn incorrectly.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Looks nice :)

I have posted my and Folwren's co-post (I think it fits well, but if you want to edit in something, Foley, just tell me). Now I assume it is time (in the soldiers' storyline) when all who play for some soldiers can post their inner thoughts on the matter (I could post something too), or for Coen to announce the departure, or we can make a cut and jump right to the pursuit (and possible inner thoughts of the soldiers could fill part of their ride).

Also, now that I had Áforglaed looking at Scyrr, that could have been a good chance for a brief half-delirious dialogue, if Eorl wished. If not, then Scyrr of course can be just unconscious and that's it.

In any case, if anybody is around, I guess quite many people have now open chance to post - basically everyone, I think.

[Folwren]

I'll try to post this weekend before heading back to camp. I'm SO excited to see some movement!

If I do post, it will be definitely for Saeryn, possibly for Quin and Thornden.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

I could take on a random soldier as well, just to add some spice. Let's see.

[Folwren]

Well, I have Quin, but he's fairly laid back, so I doubt he'll add much spice. I'll see what can be done. I do plan on posting later today.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

K, It's Dury's and Mnemosyne's turn. :)

I am sorry my post is rather brief on all my character's points of views, but I think it will work in carrying it over to the player's characters. Have fun, everyone. Tomorrow afternoon I leave for camp again and prolly won't be back until Friday. But if someone posts tomorrow before I have to leave, there is a chance that I might post something.

-- Foley

[Eorl of Rohan]

Oh, so it's moving again.

And Scyrr still makes no appearance. A pity.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Oh, so it's moving again.

And Scyrr still makes no appearance. A pity.

It is moving rather slowly, but I am afraid at least during the summer for many people it will be like that. However, that's no problem.

Concerning Scyrr, however, if you were reading closely, Eorl, you would actually see that I managed to put a chance there for Scyrr to even speak, if you wanted. It is there for already quite some time. You can write of Scyrr noticing Áforglaed in his drowsiness, or even talking to him as much as his condition allows. It will be jumping back from your timeline, but as you can see, we are all still in the middle of the day. There is a chance, you can use it. I said that already back then:

Also, now that I had Áforglaed looking at Scyrr, that could have been a good chance for a brief half-delirious dialogue, if Eorl wished. If not, then Scyrr of course can be just unconscious and that's it.
Here you go, the field can be yours, basically.

[Durelin]

I'm sorry for my disappearance. I will be posting and helping to get things moving again as soon as possible. Sorry for holding things up.

[Folwren]

Yay! I was so excited to see your post, Durelin! thanks so much for writing. I am so excited. :D

I think I'll still hold on posting myself, however. Let's figure out what needs to be done to get this day going and eventually overwith...

-- Foley

[Durelin]

Hey, Foley :) Yea, apologies to all for my disappearing twice over...I'll be doing my best to help get this moving again at whatever pace now... And of course let me know if I need to make any edits. I tried to just move things ahead and keep from moving or doing anything for other people's characters.

Oh, darnit, I forgot though -- Foley I was thinking that maybe your soldier Quin one of those who went in Coen's group of riders. Then we would have Thornden and Hilderinc in the same party, an Coen and Quin, so the main played soldier types would be together rather than spread about and unable to interact with anyone but NPCs should any opportunity for interaction come up. I know we might just skip over the searching altogether (I certainly left my post up for that), but there's always the return, etc....

But obviously up to you, Foley, where you want to put Quin.

[Folwren]

No, that's great. I like that idea of Quin going into the search party with Coen. That way, if we do decide to write anything about the search parties, there will be people to write with.

Is Legate around at all?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Hey guess what! Nogrod and company are back home! Does that mean you all will have time to post now? At lesat for a couple weeks?

Where's Legate? Mnemosyne, are you around? Eorl of Rohan?

-- Foley

[Firefoot]

So I've been lurking for the last week or so and thought I'd get back in on the action after a lot of catching up... it's been a while, hope I'm still welcome. :)

[Folwren]

Of course you're still welcome! Everybody is always welcome! I am ecstatic (sp!) that you're back!

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Great to see you again Firefoot!

I'm hopefully getting myself up to date with this tomorrow after a long break travelling in the US., but let's see what we should then do - and all the suggestions by you people will be most welcome!
Let's get this thing rolling again...

[Mnemosyne]

I'm around, but under job stress and massive amounts of self-pity. Keep on pestering me and I'll get something up.

[Eönwë]

I've finally got time again. Now I just need to catch up...

[Thinlómien]

Yay, Firefoot and Eönwë! :D

Sorry for breaking my promise about posting though. :( I don't even have any good reason for that, except procrastination!

I will post later today, for at least some of my characters. Then I'm unfortunately going to be busy for a few more weeks, but I should be more active after mid-August. Looking forward to that! :)

[Folwren]

Oh, golly! Suddenly there are whole new possibilities with the boys! I can see it already in my mind - they going out into the woods despite Modtryth's orders and startling a whole search party....hehehehe....I love chaos.

-- Foley

[Durelin]

Haha, that would be fun! I had no idea what we might have happen with the search parties, if anything, so it would be great to do something with them. Unless of course the majority just wants to move on from all this.

If you'd like them to run into Coen's riders that could be fun, though I'm not sure if it makes any sense for them to run into each other or not...if we can make it work, why not?

[Folwren]

It could make sense...the boys will have caught wind of what was going on some minutes before the soldiers are able to get mounted up and going out. They could have looped around and gotten up in the way of them by then, maybe...

I'll see what I can do in the little amount of remaining time that I have...

-- Foley

[Durelin]

Haha awesome Foley, I have a post forming very strongly in my mind...will get to it ASAP. I'm a little slow writing thanks to my wisdom teeth surgery, but hopefully I can get it up tonight or tomorrow.

[Folwren]

Really good posts, girls. I'm excited about this.

Firefoot, it'd be interesting if Scyld were to be the one to start the ball rolling for people to find out about Thornden's cover up for Lithor and Erbrand. Is that what you're thinking?

Durelin, I hope to post for the boys sometime tonight...? Or tomorrow afternoon.

-- Foley

[Firefoot]

Folwren - I'm still not quite sure where I'm going with Scyld (actually, I thought about not even bringing him back because I didn't know what to do with him...). I also didn't know what your plans were for Thornden, whether he'd get caught or not. If you want him to get caught, then I can certainly go that direction with Scyld.

Durelin - hope you're recovering ok. I had my wisdom teeth out over Christmas break and it was not fun.

[Folwren]

I am uncertain how it will all play out, but I have an inkling that Thornden's deceit, I guess you could say, will be found out. But Hilderinc may have something to do with that, too. We should discuss it with Legate, too.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am here, I have been out and I warn you that I will be also away for most of the rest of summer, basically I am around only now for several days and then I will be here the last week of August and only after that in the second half of September (but after that, I expect a full start on!) But I am now going to read what you wrote, and see if I can write something :) Great to see this moving, anyway!

[Durelin]

lol, I started off thinking there were just the two boys, then realized there were three, and didn't edit properly. Sorry bout that -- but it works! :D

Coen is...reeeally not happy. I was kinda surprised at how angry he is, but...yea. He is totally flustered, frustrated, ready to be anywhere but Scarburg... This is fun! ;p

So, I am assuming, from the way things have been going, that Erbrand and Lithor are definitely not going to be found by the search parties. Am I correct in that assumption?

As for Thornden's deceit -- Coen is not going to let him get away with whatever it is he's hiding :p

And thank you, Firefoot, I'm doing much better now...finally really healing. It is so great to get to RP with you again!!

[Folwren]

He is really angry. I can tell. I wonder if I should have Javan talk back?

I am really curious to see what ends up happening so far as Thornden goes.

I, too, am really excited about RPing again with BOTH of you. This makes me happy. :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I have finally read all you managed to write here since I was last online. I have to say, just wonderful :) I have posted for Hilderinc (he still thinks Erbrand attacked Áforglaed yesterday, btw. In fact, he has surprising lot of wrong information in his head, all due to simple misunderstandings...). I have put Quin in too, in case you wanted to somehow make him interact or even just post his thoughts on what he has seen and heard, Foley. I don't know if that corresponds with your plans for him, if not (like if you want him to ride out with Coen, for example), then I can just edit him away from my post. I have also opened it for whoever would like to interact with Hilderinc/Áforglaed/Quin, they can go anywhere from here, so if somebody wants, you can either suggest here whom to move where or you can rightaway write about where they go and include it in your post and start talking to them... please, feel free to do so :) (or at least I am speaking for Hilderinc and Áforglaed)

[Folwren]

Legate, I'm so glad to see you post! I went ahead and got everyone on horse back. I wrote some about Áforglaed that I hope you don't mind, but if you do, I can, of course change it or take it out.

Durelin, I posted also for Javan. All I ask of you is that you don't kill him on the spot. :eek:

[Folwren]

All Léof could think was that this whole situation was being handled exceptionally badly

This line from your post cracks me up. Leof is SO totally right when he says that! So funny. It is being handled rather badly indeed.

[Firefoot]

Okay, I've been thinking about Scyld... I think that what I'm going to have him do is approach Athanar and speak in generalities, not point any specific fingers (at least initially - we'll see what kind of questions Athanar might ask)... that can leave the door open for Athanar to pursue his own investigation which could bring out Hilderinc's concerns etc.

For that to happen he's going to want to get Athanar on his own though, and it seems that Athanar is currently speaking with Wynflaed and Saeryn... Scyld isn't likely to interrupt, he wouldn't want it widely known that he's giving possibly sensitive information to Athanar. So I guess I'm wondering about the status of that conversation? It's Mnemosyne's turn to post there, I believe...

[Folwren]

If I were you, I'd PM Nogrod and Mnemosyne and give the heads up that way. Otherwise, they might not notice.

I will attempt to post this evening sometime. No promises, though.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

How could someone as accomplished and noble as Athanar get landed this backwater bunch of ruffians who did not even know how to keep their women and children in line?

Where did the women come into all this? :eek: That's just funny.

[Folwren]

Hey, Durelin, I'm thinking about how to post for Javan & Co., and I guess there are two choices. Either Javan cam say, "No, never mind. We'll go back without any problem, and you can just go rejoin your company." Or he can put up a fuss. I couldn't decide which and it occurred to me that the decision affected you. So, what would you like to do? Do you want them to refuse to go quietly, or should they just go? And then, likewise, we could play around with the idea of the boys saying, "We'll go back by ourselves, and you can go rejoin your captain" and Feaghall doing so, but the boys changing their minds half way back and turning back around again...but that'd probably be too stupid.

Any thoughts or preferences?

-- Foley

[Durelin]

lol, he's upset and thus angry at everyone...and he didn't really like everything that Saeryn (and her brother) said on the first day... :D He'll get over it, lol. And women and children are easy to lump together for him... :rolleyes:

Completely up to you, Foley! I was just hoping you wouldn't mind me blowing off Javan and the boys enough so that Coen could leave (I knew it would be silly for him to spend too long wasting his time talking with them...feel free to have them complain again at Coen and he just ignore them even though I didn't leave room for it in my post). I left Fearghall there for them to continue to complain to, abuse in some fashion, or simply ignore...up to you :p

[Mnemosyne]

Okay, I (think) I've finally got enough time to read through this, catch up, and get the conversation to a point where others can jump in. I'll try to get something up tonight.

[Folwren]

That'd be amazing, Mnemo! I'm looking forward to it.

Dury, I plan to post today sometime.

[Mnemosyne]

Wynflaed is up. Foley or Nog can proceed; if Saeryn's going to tell Athanar what she knows about Lithor, Wynflaed will be free to poke her nose into other people's business.

[Nogrod]

It seems like an all too familiar apology again, but after our phantastic trip to the US I have been visiting a few summer-cottages (to get the feeling of Finnish-summer and to meet friends) and after that I have been more or less 24/7 engaged with our choir's dance-show we have now been performing a few days - and it will take me to the end of the week.

I will try to check this well enough to be able to answer your questions tomorrow Firefoot and to check the current situation (if you're around Mnemo, go on). Otherwise it will probably be the next week I'm able to really delve into this again.

But I'm very happy to see you again Firefoot, and all of you who have just ignitited this into life again! This was a rotten summer for me "Mead Hall -wise", otherwise it has been just awesome!

I hope to be able to come into the middle of things soon enough!

I'm really sorry about the bad hosting. It should get better again, though.

[Durelin]

No apologies Nogrod! It seems most of us have had a busy summer; I've been really awful about posting since May (really since I stated, but ya know). Relax and enjoy vacationing/choir performance!

[Folwren]

Hi, all. What's going on? Are we going to have any new posts sometime?

Dury and I are working on a co-post together. She's been busy lately, and I'm about to start school, but I'm hoping it doesn't take too much longer.

What about Nogrod, Mnemo, and Lommy and Legate?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am around here now again, like I said previously on this thread, I am now going to be here until the end of the week and then again not. Not sure what could I post right now, but I am also going to read what you wrote meanwhile. Anyway, I am going to be definitely permanently around from about the second half of September... so after that, I hope also others will be here and that we can move this on in swifter pace :)

[Mnemosyne]

I think I left it open for Saeryn or Athanar to post next in the conversation there... I know Nog gave me permission to continue but I'm not quite sure how...

[Folwren]

Do you all think that it would be alright if, in the near future, we went ahead and moved on to later in the day? I'll write a post sometime about Thornden's search parties going into the marshes, and Dury and I will get a post up eventually with Feaghall and the boys and whatnot. I think we can wait a little while after that and see if anyone comes up with anything. But if no one does, I'm thinking we can move along to the end of the day.

Any thoughts?

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

Hiya folks!

Foley, Firefoot and Dury, I love you! Amazing posts. :D

I will post now something for Modtryth and if I get inspired, I will also write for Wulfric, Wilheard and/or Cnebba...

As for moving later to the day, I'm all for it. There's nothing urgent I need to interfere with...

[Thinlómien]

Posted. Durelin, feel free to have Fearghall approach Modtryth. Folwren, feel free to have the children do whatever they will. Actually, anybody feel free to approach my characters. :D Modtryth is on her way to the kitchens with Leodern, Wulfric and Wilheard can be anywhere (but separately) and will both be in a very bad mood. My suspicion is that Will would gladly go riding (or even hunting) after a day like this, and Wulfric, hmm, no idea. Use your creativity. ;)

[Folwren]

Ack. I got sick of school, so I decided to write a post, but then reading all the previous posts and figuring out what to write took too long, so I don't have any more time.

I hope that I get so much of my homework done today that I can post. Keep your fingers crossed, though, 'cause that may just not happen. :(

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I REALLY want to write something on here, but I don't want to do it all by myself. If I post, will anyone else post? Chances are, I can work it so that at least one of my characters runs into your character. Please let me know.

-- Foley

[Mnemosyne]

I could probably manage a post for Wynflaed on or about Thursday (and if not then, by week's end). I've been anxious to keep this going, too.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hilderinc can make a company to somebody, if need be. I think it will be nice to get this going again :)

[Thinlómien]

I can manage something if you approach any of my characters. :)

[Folwren]

Durelin has not been online for a month, so I am going to take the liberty of working with Fearghall and actually bringing the boys back...that way, Modtryth can be engaged with the boy characters.

I will also write a post about the search parties in the marshes.

And Nogrod has responded to a PM I sent him and he said we can work with Athanar to free Wynflaed and Saeryn from that so that we can play with those two characters, Mnemosyne.

All that being said, I will do my best to fulfill those ambitious plans just as soon as I have some free time from homework.

P.S. I would like to add that if anyone wants to post, DON'T wait for me to post first! I have nothing planned, so if you writ something, you won't be ruining anything for me.

[Thinlómien]

Folwren, any free time in the horizon? :)

[Nogrod]

Finally... having time in the horizon.

It took longer I expected but now I really should be in again. Let's see this further.

[Folwren]

Folwren, any free time in the horizon? :)

Potentially, yes. If I handle my time correctly and have motivation, absolutely. :)

What'd'ye want to do?

Nogrod, so glad to see you about. This RPG has been nagging at my mind lately and I'd love to write some.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

So, *bump*? :)

Foley, are you planning still to post something of the things you have mentioned above? And anybody else, are you - are *we* - around? :) It would be nice to continue this further, yet I am not probably the one to move it forward...

Or what are the plans now anyway? Some things happening in the Hall, the parties returning with no discoveries (or at least the marsh-party)? Any instances towards which we are going to move - evening? Some evaluation of the day by Athanar? Everybody knowing about Lithor and Erbrand missing now via rumor, but will there be any "official stance" made? (Well, that's really looking into the future, but just considering it, and sort of recapitulating also what's going on right now, partially for myself :) )

[Folwren]

Oh, gosh. Okay, tell you what, today, during class tonight, when I am bored of the professor's ridiculous jokes, I'll work on a post and get it posted tonight or tomorrow morning. How's that sound? I'll cover the people in the marsh and possibly the kids and Captain Feaghall, if the prof is REALLY boring tonight.

--Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Sounds good to me :) But no worries. If the prof indeed turns out to be boring however, I think I will be very happy, as well as many others :)

[littlemanpoet]

Hello again. I'm back. Looks like you were having lots of fun with the conflict there for a while. Let's see if we can ramp it back up some. :D

[Mnemosyne]

Hello again. I'm back. Looks like you were having lots of fun with the conflict there for a while. Let's see if we can ramp it back up some. :D

Wait, back as in back, or just popping your head in?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Wait, back as in back, or just popping your head in?

Indeed so! A surprise, nice to see you back around at the 'Downs again... But what would be your plans, do you want to stay?

[littlemanpoet]

When Samwise said, "Well, I'm back!", what did he mean? :)

In other words, the answer is 'yes'. Plans? It appears from my scanning of the thread since I went on my little adventure, is that there is a new eorl at Scarburg by the will of the king of the eorlingas. Eodwine will of course obey the king's will. He will also be willing to remain at Scarburg if the new eorl will have him.

Oh, and there's a certain reunion that Eodwine looks forward to in the form of a certain wife....

[Folwren]

Elempi, my heart (almost) truly stopped and then skipped a beat when I saw you had posted. A bright day just got brigther. Welcome back. :D

Post 596 on the game thread gives the clearest idea of Athanar's authority. It appears that, upon hearing of Eodwine's condition and the unlikely chance that he should ever recover, King Eomer gave Athanar possession of Scarburg. Do you think he'd change that if Eodwine were to return?

Eodwine's and Saeryn's reunion will be nice. Will he send word before him, or just come? Never mind. I just read your game post and see that he's sending a letter. :)

And now that Elempi's back, folks, what should we do about this extraordinarily long day? I am currently working on a searching party post and will have it posted within the hour.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I posted. Legate and Firefoot, although I wrote to where Thornden turned around, until everyone has decided to move on, you guys can write posts about your characters during the search.

Elempi, would you like an overview of what has happened, or do you think you got most of it by reading?

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

Hi Elempi! Welcome back. :)

Funny how Elempi's return makes me feel guilty for not posting for a while... ;)

[Folwren]

Lommy, if you want, I can bring the boys back and then you can post. :D

[Thinlómien]

I'll tell you once I've read your post and thought of what to write about... After all, have four characters atm so I don't have to write about Cnebba. :)

[Folwren]

I was thinking perhaps for Modtryth to be able to interact, too....

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Great posting, Foley. I will see if I want to write something about the search itself, I think that unless I want to introduce some dramatic scene about Hilderinc almost drowning in a pool, I will go through that only very briefly... I don't know if Firefoot is around to post for Léof, so only if he wanted to do something...

Maybe I could have Hilderinc have a few remarks to Thornden when they are still on the way, though. There is still the thing about Hilderinc seeing Thornden talking to "the scout" (as he believes). Hope poor Thornden can cope with this threat of being discovered from all sides :)

[Folwren]

Maybe I could have Hilderinc have a few remarks to Thornden when they are still on the way, though. There is still the thing about Hilderinc seeing Thornden talking to "the scout" (as he believes). Hope poor Thornden can cope with this threat of being discovered from all sides :)

Yeah, that sounds great. I'm perfectly willing for that to happen. Thornden can handle the stress. :p

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi, would you like an overview of what has happened, or do you think you got most of it by reading?

-- Foley

I'm satisfied with my reading. My thought is that Eodwine will not know what has been going on, and so I don't want to know too well either. That would make it come off more realistic. Of course, I know enough anyway, for example that Athanar has been having a lot of difficulty establishing his authority in spite of King Eomer's writ of proclamation because of Scarburgians' loyalty to a certain previous eorl. :rolleyes: (whistles guiltily)

Funny how Elempi's return makes me feel guilty for not posting for a while... :D

I do need to know how much rpg time has passed. Some help?

[Folwren]

I do need to know how much rpg time has passed. Some help?

Ha. Not much...uh, let me see...Saeryn is something like three months pregnant, maybe? And we're calculating that she conceived immediately after marraige. And this is just the day after Athanar's arrival. Eodwine wouldn't know about her pregnancy, I don't think. But I could be wrong. In fact, I wil check to make certain, because I might easily be wrong.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Just like Foley said, and I could add that it is the 12th November in the game (now finishing the day, actually). You can compare it with the game-time you remember, LMP :) There's been some dispute with these nearby lords and that's why Athanar was appointed, also to sort of bring order and make sure they are really serving their king and not just stuffing their own treasuries and such... I guess that's the main few points from the "global picture"...

P.S. My post for Hilderinc is almost ready :)

[Folwren]

Okay, I was wrong - Eodwine knew about the baby. :)

K, I knocked up a brief outline. Here we are...

August 9, Saery and Eodwine married.
October 9th, Eodwine falls ill.
October 10th, the three significant lords of the Middle Emnet come to Scarburg. They refuse to recognize Saeryn's and Thornden's authority and don't pay taxes, but offer to give a gift so they can survive the next month...how kind. :rolleyes:
November 10, Degas comes back into town. (Post 506)
November 11, Lord Athanar and his entourage comes to Scarburg. (post 509)
And I believe we are now writing about November 12.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Posted. So in the end, I didn't make Hilderinc address Thornden directly, as it would not make any sense in these circumstances, but if Thornden was paying attention, he would be reminded once again now that Hilderinc saw him and Lithor in the morning and that Thornden, if nothing else, had not denied the fact that he has seen this particular person leaving... it could be a matter of time if Hilderinc remembers this, or perhaps Thornden might hope that he will forget it... nonetheless, probably just one more worry to add for Thornden :)

[Folwren]

Posted. So in the end, I didn't make Hilderinc address Thornden directly, as it would not make any sense in these circumstances, but if Thornden was paying attention, he would be reminded once again now that Hilderinc saw him and Lithor in the morning and that Thornden, if nothing else, had not denied the fact that he has seen this particular person leaving... it could be a matter of time if Hilderinc remembers this, or perhaps Thornden might hope that he will forget it... nonetheless, probably just one more worry to add for Thornden :)

I think you're right about Hilderinc probably not addressing Thornden. Little reason to.

And thanks. Thornden needed something extra to worry about. ;)

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Lord Eodwine is getting better!

Yay!

And welcome back lmp!


The obvious question now of course is how soon in real time would you like to get involved with the matters in Scarburg? Looking at the way we have advanced it would take like ten years (RL) to move us forwards for let's say a month or two it might take from lord Eodwine to both get better and to travel to Scarburg... :rolleyes:

I think we could skip some time soonish, but what would be the believable time-frame Eodwine could be back? I mean we'd need to figure out how things went as there clearly is a confrontation ahead with the local landlords. And looking at lord Athanar's character, he would not stay low and wait but take the initiative.

I'm not sure right now if I have made lord Athanar to say this aloud in the thread (or only as PM's to some whose characters we have been discussing), but his idea was that he and the soldiers from Scarburg would visit the landlords one by one - and make sure no messengers could make it between the landlords to warn the others.

That confrontation would need to be written. After that, especially if it ends well on the POV of the Scarburgians we could easily turn the clock onwards. Although we'd have to think a moment, how the new order would have settled then in Scarburg after the more or less succesful submission of the landlords.

So lmp, if you're interested in coming forwards sooner than later, we should try to tie any loose ends there are right now, and then prepare something to carry us to the future.

I can write that confrontation stuff because I have already thought of a few things about it, and after all it's lord Athanar's thing to call and lead that tour. But I'm more than happy with any input from you others concerning it.

[littlemanpoet]

Is Harreld still the blacksmith? Anything known about all that? And what was the name of the young lady he liked? ;)

If so, then I can write Harreld a wee bit while Eodwine waits in the wings. Don't rush into tying up loose strings on my account! I have plenty to do here and there in RL. And I can keep Eodwine's story line running at the Houses of Healing, too.

[Folwren]

Yeah, Harreld is still blacksmith, so far as I know. And Ginna was his girl. :D

Our first step is to finish this day up. Nogrod, what would you like to see happen before we move on?

[Nogrod]

Our first step is to finish this day up. Nogrod, what would you like to see happen before we move on?The searchers should report back - and if no one has a special idea, then we could make it the next day.

The next day lord Athanar would ride off with the soldiers to meet the landlords one by one.

What is your general feeling, would you like to write on that everyone (who has soldier-characters) so that we would make it a kind of "stuff to write" or should we just skip it with one post by me?

Or should we like write one of the meetings together and then let the others to go past by just one post? Maybe getting ready to go there, the first meeting... (This is the option I'd prefer) I mean if we start writing all those confrontations one by one it will take month(s), but I'd like to see you others writing something on that anyway. And we might have a chance to strengthen (or lessen) some dawning friendships there when they face some real trouble together?

Let's not forget that we'd do well to then also write something about how the life gets settled in the Mead Hall after this most urging problem is dealt with and thus should not spend a half a year getting us over the first hurdle.


And lmp, what would you think, in gametime, would it be when Eodwine might make it back - or a messenger could deliver the message that he is coming? That would help us plan for the timetables after the immediate confrontation...

[Mnemosyne]

Only a couple of other things I can think of for the particular day's agenda--getting things ready for the searchers' return, treating the attacked soldier, and Saeryn telling Athanar about the additional desertion. I can help move along the preparations back in the Mead-Hall, but Wynflaed's still so new that she'll want Saeryn's help--both because she knows what's going on and because the household staff trusts her.

We should also probably start thinking, long term, how much of our agenda we newcomers want to have achieved so that when we receive news of Eodwine's recovery there will be enough havoc to deal with. From a story-internal perspective, we could really take our time, but externally I think we should move things along a bit.

I know Athanar and Wynflaed were only planning on staying as long as necessary, but out of game things were supposed to be a good deal more flexible. If we want to extend the conflict into the transition back, about the best thing that I can think of, at the moment, to make Athanar's Scarburgian interests at least a little more long-term, would be to have one of his sons knock up a maid...

I don't know if that's a good or a terrible idea, though, and I don't write any of the parties who would be directly involved.

[Folwren]

Lommy, I posted. I was going to have Modtryth come out of the kitchen and spot them and then I realized that was your privilege, so I didn't.

I have no time to comment on Mnemosyne's and Nogrod's posts and give my own ideas and ask my questions...sorry. I'll try to get on tomorrow sometime, though.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

What is your general feeling, would you like to write on that everyone (who has soldier-characters) so that we would make it a kind of "stuff to write" or should we just skip it with one post by me?
Personally, I think it will be a pity if we just skipped it with one post. I mean, if LMP really does not mind (or can post for other characters meanwhile), I don't think we are in any "hurry hurry" rightaway. And since this meeting the landlords was sort of the "most epic" part, the sort of "epic plot" aside from general hanging around in the Hall (and one of the main reasons why Athanar and his people came, anyway), I think it won't do if we just passed it with "And the next day, they visited the lords, threatened them a bit and came back home". I am, of course, speaking especially for my character(s?) as this is finally the place where the soldiers are supposed to be.

Otherwise: there has not been still any official proclamation on Athanar's part concerning the fugitives; is he going to leave it be (since they haven't been caught) and keep it just for rumors among the folk? Not sure if this is Athanar's style and probably not any lord's style, anyway. So perhaps now that the parties return and report, Athanar might want to put some "official position" forwards? (This is probably to Foley and Dury, but depends if they want to write about Thornden and Coen reporting, or if Nog can make it with one post and write about how Athanar reacted.) This is probably also related to Wynflaed, like Mnemo said, and all these various points of view can meet...

Likewise, the "common folk" (including both peasants and soldiers) can still react to Erbrand and Lithor's disappearance and the fact that they haven't been found, and also to react if Athanar makes any official proclamation (that will sort of give the basic impulse from which it will be easy to write). Or even if he tries to hush it up for some reason...
I think the point is that here we have good chances to shape our characters, and there are still so many unsolved things, the old-new Scarburg thing a bit brought forth by this again, old friendships Erbrand had, etc, etc...

Anyway, this looks like it could be a lot of things, but I think it depends only on how fast we post, like, it can be done as fast as in one day RL, with let's say two posts from each person. (That's not supposed to be hurrying people up, that is more like encouraging in case it started to seem to somebody that we have million posts in front of ourselves and we cannot possibly ever finish doing that. There used to be times when we'd write such a thing in day or two just on a rather random basis, I think, without having too much illusions, that we could do it over a week...)

Or should we like write one of the meetings together and then let the others to go past by just one post? Maybe getting ready to go there, the first meeting... (This is the option I'd prefer) I mean if we start writing all those confrontations one by one it will take month(s), but I'd like to see you others writing something on that anyway. And we might have a chance to strengthen (or lessen) some dawning friendships there when they face some real trouble together?
I think one meeting is fine - unless somebody gets a brilliant idea about doing something different in different meetings. But basically, just like you say. Let us see once we are there...

[Folwren]

Hm. I just had an idea. Elempi, what would you think of taking the part(s) of one or two or all three of the landlords that they visit? Then you would be involved, plus we'd have another angle from which to view the story.

Otherwise: there has not been still any official proclamation on Athanar's part concerning the fugitives; is he going to leave it be (since they haven't been caught) and keep it just for rumors among the folk? Not sure if this is Athanar's style and probably not any lord's style, anyway. So perhaps now that the parties return and report, Athanar might want to put some "official position" forwards? (This is probably to Foley and Dury, but depends if they want to write about Thornden and Coen reporting, or if Nog can make it with one post and write about how Athanar reacted.) This is probably also related to Wynflaed, like Mnemo said, and all these various points of view can meet...

I, too, would like to see how this whole Erbrand and Lithor desertion thing works out. I put Thornden's neck out for him and would be rather disappointed if nothing came of it. :p (Am I not SO kind to my character?)

[Mnemosyne]

I, too, would like to see how this whole Erbrand and Lithor desertion thing works out. I put Thornden's neck out for him and would be rather disappointed if nothing came of it. :p (Am I not SO kind to my character?)

Didn't we decide that Saeryn should tell Athanar that Thornden knew? (It's clearly been a while, but the more people talk about it the more comes back to me.)

I am utterly too busy today to make any sort of progress, but hopefully come Saturday, if there's something I can do to get things moving forward-ish, I'll be able to. Let me know if any of you have any ideas.

[Folwren]

Didn't we decide that Saeryn should tell Athanar that Thornden knew? (It's clearly been a while, but the more people talk about it the more comes back to me.)

That would be brilliant, but no...Saeryn didn't know that Thornden knew. Let's see...the ones who have the potential of knowing are Hilderinc, Leof, and I think one other, but I don't recall...I'll have to look and see.

I am utterly too busy today to make any sort of progress, but hopefully come Saturday, if there's something I can do to get things moving forward-ish, I'll be able to. Let me know if any of you have any ideas.

I'll try to think of something and let you know if I do. I, too, am exremely busy today and tomorrow...and I may not even be able to post this weekend.

[Nogrod]

I think lord Athanar would wish not to pursue the fugitives any more himself right now as he needs all the men available for the visits to the landlords, but he'd probably send one man to Edoras to announce the outlaws to the king. And he'd have to leave a few men to guard the Mead Hall just in case the two were murderous and still around. (Remember, he doesn't know them!)

We'll have to check this "Saeryn knew" stuff. If it is that way, then it should be that way.


Heh, a good idea Foley! So if you lmp wish to play for the landlords (one or some of them), it would be great fun!

In that case, we should probably PM something about them as to how we see their situation in respect of the new Mead Hall - and what kind of people they are - so that we work on the same premises. And which one of them would you like to play... so as to decide which encounter we'd be writing all of us?

[littlemanpoet]

Heh, a good idea Foley! So if you lmp wish to play for the landlords (one or some of them), it would be great fun!

In that case, we should probably PM something about them as to how we see their situation in respect of the new Mead Hall - and what kind of people they are - so that we work on the same premises. And which one of them would you like to play... so as to decide which encounter we'd be writing all of us?

I'm willing. The PM idea is good. I don't have oodles of time to really concentrate on the last 6 or so pages of this thread, so any summaries you can offer in that regard would be most helpful.

Allow me to share my opinion in regard to rushing some parts of the story: if there's a writer on this rpg who really wants to write something for a given scenario, and can get some time in to do it, let him/her have a go. The rest of us I would think would be willing to give the writer a couple days.

[littlemanpoet]

Sorry, I should have answered another question sooner. Someone asked about timing in regard to news of Eodwine. According to Barbara Strachey's maps, it took the Rohirrim 5 days to get from Edoras to Minas Tirith. They weren't moving slowly. Postal service/messenger service would run probably about the same pace. So Scarburg will get the news of Eodwine's recovery 5 days after it occurs.

I haven't nailed down exactly when he recovers - I just wrote the thing the day I decided to come back. So I could back date the thing and Scarburg could find out any day we choose. Or we could figure on a full five days, whatever seems best. The news will be accompanied by a request for Saeryn to come immediately to Minas Tirith since Eodwine is a long way from being strong enough to travel.

[Nogrod]

I'm willing. The PM idea is good. I don't have oodles of time to really concentrate on the last 6 or so pages of this thread, so any summaries you can offer in that regard would be most helpful. I'll PM you on Sunday (Lommy and Greenie are with me this weekend)

And as you -and Legate - said, let's not be too hasty.

[Nogrod]

Or we could figure on a full five days, whatever seems best. The news will be accompanied by a request for Saeryn to come immediately to Minas Tirith since Eodwine is a long way from being strong enough to travel. We should go for the full five days...

Any one with a tally of when Eodwine left? I mean are we even as far as when Eodwine might "wake up" on Minas Tirith?

[Folwren]

Yeah, he left October 9 from the Mead Hall. He was in Edoras for some time, but we're not sure how long, I would guess two weeks, maybe? Because in that time Saeryn went to Edoras, told the King the trouble, the king made the decision to put a new eorl at Scarburg, and the healer there decided they couldn't do anything for Eodwine. So, then he was shipped off to Minas Tirith, we'll say around October 23rd and got there maybe November 1st (is that too slow?). And now it's November 12. So Saeryn will get word on the 17th, which will be after, I presume, Athanar has made his rounds with the lords.

[Folwren]

Allow me to share my opinion in regard to rushing some parts of the story: if there's a writer on this rpg who really wants to write something for a given scenario, and can get some time in to do it, let him/her have a go. The rest of us I would think would be willing to give the writer a couple days.

That's a good idea, but unfortunately, any fun scenerio takes two people, usually, and it's so crazy for everyone, nothing seems to be moving forward. I'll brainstorm tomorrow and see what I can figure out to get this train back on the rails and moving again.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

The searchers should come back to the Mead Hall? We could make a couple of short posts on it and then turn on the next Day - unless someone has an idea willing to write on something for the ongoing day still.

We are doing some background planning on the landlords so in a few days (RL) we should be able move forwards to meet them - and sure, people should write on the morning, the feelings of the soldiers getting on a mission...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

The searchers should come back to the Mead Hall? We could make a couple of short posts on it and then turn on the next Day - unless someone has an idea willing to write on something for the ongoing day still.

I guess that's it, and I guess it's up to the Captains, or we can just pass it by with some description ("so they have returned, reported everything and that was it..."). I think that depends on Foley and Dury. And Nog, I am not sure if you have taken into account what I have said several times or if you take it as part of this "couple of short posts" you mention here, but is Athanar not going to give any "official announcement" or "official position" about Erbrand and Lithor? Like announcing "Erbrand and Lithor are henceforth labelled deserters, whoever finds them should bring them to the justice... and btw hope nobody of you is going to do some similar stupid thing" or something like that?

[Nogrod]

And Nog, I am not sure if you have taken into account what I have said several times or if you take it as part of this "couple of short posts" you mention here, but is Athanar not going to give any "official announcement" or "official position" about Erbrand and Lithor? Like announcing "Erbrand and Lithor are henceforth labelled deserters, whoever finds them should bring them to the justice... and btw hope nobody of you is going to do some similar stupid thing" or something like that?Well I did say this...
he'd probably send one man to Edoras to announce the outlaws to the king. And he'd have to leave a few men to guard the Mead Hall just in case the two were murderous and still around. (Remember, he doesn't know them!)
And that would surely contain what you said there, eg. an announcement. What do you think, is there is a shared evening meal (what is the time the searching parties come back)? Or how much buzzing the place would have after that incident?

Okay, making that last question actually answered my question... yes it should be in the evening the announcement is made. :)

[Folwren]

You know, it would be a really good idea for Athanar to tell the household this night that the next day (or soon) he plans to go out and confront the other landlords. I think once the people have something to work for together some of their problems will dissipate.

I've no time to write anything right now, another class is beggining even as I type. Gotta run.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I wrote a post, nudging us even closer to the end of the day. I suggest that if people want to continue some of the conversations or events that could have happened earlier in the day (i.e. conversation between Wynflaed, Saeryn, and Athanar, or the confrontation between Modtryth and the boys) then by all means do so. However, if no one does that in the next day or two, I humbly submit that Nogrod should post a post about Athanar speaking there at the evening meal about what happened during the day, the results of the searches and what that means for everybody, and what is going to happen next (that is, we're going to go and get the king's taxes out of the stubborn land owners).

I do hope everyone is cool with what I wrote.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

Legate, I think it's pretty funny that you have Aflorgad (or however you spell his name) smitten with the healer. Very good way to slip Matrim in there. That was great.

Hey, while falling asleep last night, it occurred to me that what might potentially happen in this issue with Thornden is that Hilderinc could mention to Coenred that he saw a scout being sent out that morning. Coenred would of course say that there was no scout and Hilderinc would possibly tell him that Thornden knew about the man's departure, and this would probably awaken more misgivings in Coenred, who had some sneaking suspicion earlier that Thornden knew something he wasn't saying (you remember when Thornden and Coenred were talking to Athanar about where to send the search parties? I remembered it last night while trying to think of who all knows a little about Thornden's cover-up and it came back to me that he let something slip and Coenred suspects him of knowing something). It wouldn't take much for Coen to put two and two together, and then he could either confront Thornden on it, or go straight to Athanar. I personally hope he comes to Thornden first, but that would be Dury's call.

Does anyone know where Durelin might be, by the way? I don't think she's been on here for quite some time.

I have to go finish getting ready for work. See ya'll later.

P.S. Oh! And it just came to me - Mnemosyne, what Saeryn wanted to tell Athanar was that Lithor left with Erbrand, too, so they no longer have to wonder if he went somewhere else or what. She didn't know Thornden saw them go.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Foley, thanks :) The ideas sort of came to me randomly and during the course of writing the post, but it was sort of natural... it all originally came simply from that I wanted Áforglaed visit Scyrr, which seemed to imply that he would likely encounter the healer there, then it occured to me that Matrim could be near her... and only then I have realised that it was actually him who was in the original fight with Áforgaled the day before. The course of things which comes unplanned is sometimes even better than if it was planned :)

As for your idea about Hilderinc telling Coen, I think it's good. You just seem to come up with possibly more and more ways to put Thornden into more and more unpleasant position :D I can make Hilderinc mention it during the dinner, for example, or after it; I think it would be fitting, since the topic of the unsuccessful hunt for the fugitives will be sort of "on the table".

I am wondering about Dury too. Does anybody know about a way to contact her otherwise? I can, of course, just write a bit about Hilderinc without her and then we could wrap the matter up in some way by Coen addressing Thornden, but it would be probably far better if she can be here to actually decide for Coen herself.

[Folwren]

As for your idea about Hilderinc telling Coen, I think it's good. You just seem to come up with possibly more and more ways to put Thornden into more and more unpleasant position :D I can make Hilderinc mention it during the dinner, for example, or after it; I think it would be fitting, since the topic of the unsuccessful hunt for the fugitives will be sort of "on the table".

Yeah, I'm good at getting myself and my characters into scrapes. :p I enjoy immense amount of conflict in my stories.

I am wondering about Dury too. Does anybody know about a way to contact her otherwise? I can, of course, just write a bit about Hilderinc without her and then we could wrap the matter up in some way by Coen addressing Thornden, but it would be probably far better if she can be here to actually decide for Coen herself.

I sent her a message on facebook, hopefully she'll get that.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Foley: I'm in the middle of some chaos right now, but made a short post to get things moving. If you can make a reply to my last, then great. I'll post for lord Athanar speaking to the Mead Hall about the day and tomorrow (in game), hopefully tomorrow (RL).

Let's hope Dury is found as well...

[Durelin]

Hey all. I'm in the midst of a busy semester, and haven't had the energy or interest to really try to stay active or involved in this...I apologize. It always seems to work out that when I do have the time and interest, everyone else (except Foley, who is always around!) is busy. Not that I am ever consistent.....ever....

I've been lurking off-and-on but...it's hard to come back right now... I'm not sure what time I can dedicate until the end of this semester, but I'll see what I can do.

[Folwren]

I've been lurking off-and-on but...it's hard to come back right now... I'm not sure what time I can dedicate until the end of this semester, but I'll see what I can do.

Dury, if you can't come back right now and don't think you'll be able to participate for a couple months yet (that is, till the end of hte semester), could you possibly tell us how you think your character would act in the ideas and situation that Legate and I talk about in the above posts?

I know what it's like being in the midst of a crazy semester! And don't think I'm always around...heh...a couple weeks ago, I was skipping a week at time. I felt pretty bad about it, but as no one else was posting, I just let it slide.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Give us some thoughts about Coen, if you have time Dury. And all the best for the semester!

Foley: I just threw you one back as I haphazardly ran into your post at the right time. If you have time, make a line or two (or more of course). I need to get to sleep now and will try to make something more tomorrow in the form of lord Athanar addressing all the people.

Meanwhile, keep up posting anyone who have anything in mind...

[Nogrod]

Btw. Foley, I hope we share the same idea - that Athanar is speaking with Thornden and Coenred more or less in private here (in the hall but not publicly) - so it's not like everyone's listening... I thought it was that way - but if you thought otherwise... :)

[Folwren]

Nope, I had the same idea. Like they're standing together in a little knot or something. :)

I'm off to read the new posts and then likely going to bed. I likely won't have time to post again this evening...but if I do, I'll go ahead and knock something up.

-- Foley

P.S. Yay, Elempi! You're bringing Harreld's brother back in! I liked that fellow. He was quite entertaining. :)

And I did get a few lines up after all. Have at it, Nogrod.

[Lhunardawen]

Elempi, you're committing the same mistake I used to commit. Harreld's twin is named Garreth. ;)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hey, lovely to see these things going, seems that we are on the move once again :) Great posts, people... and great to have also different characters on the stage... that's how it's supposed to be :)

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi, you're committing the same mistake I used to commit. Harreld's twin is named Garreth. ;)

Lhuna! You're around! Good to "see ya"! I might not have written a little for Ginna if I'd known. Did I do okay on Ginna?

(I'll fix my little Garreth error.) :rolleyes:

[Nogrod]

Sorry. It was a more hectic day I had imagined and I only got home around 11PM. I have made Athanar to answer Thornden and send the two back to their seats. I'll write the (hopefully shortish) speech tomorrow. Meanwhile, do post on any issues.

lmp: I'll try to come up with a solution to our background discussion tomorrow. PM'ing you tomorrow as well.

[Folwren]

Nogrod, the line in your post about an 'inpassionate old man teaching an young man about passion' cracked me up because Thornden has never struck me as a very passionate young man...so it was just funny that Athanar would ask such a thing. Were Thornden as clueless about that sort of thing as some of the engineer students I know, that whole episode would have gone clear over his head. :p

[Nogrod]

Lord Athanar has spoken! :)

If you wonder about the congenial mood I have depicted let me tell you my train of thought...

After all the mixed emotions - and especially with the soldiers, a long day of utterly mix-feeling manhunting - getting food and an ale, and receiving these messages both sides want, combined with the arousal of a common "enemy" - any studies of mass-psychology would tell people would probably react that way. And I left there an opening for anyone disagreeing with the common feel-good -factor to write them doing so.

Also I think that as most people more or less believe lord Eodwine is dead (they don't know "the Creator of lord Eodwine" is back), they also think in the back of their heads that they'll have to get used to this state of affairs and thus this peace-making attitude would sound good in their ears.

Foley & Dury: if there is anything wrong with Thornden and/or Coen, let me know.

lmp: I need to postpone my PM to you for tomorrow, sorry, but it's absolutely too late now to start writing that (3.30am).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Looks great, Nog! I absolutely agree with what you wrote. I will probably write something regarding closer reactions of the soldiers soon, too...

[Lhunardawen]

Lhuna! You're around! Good to "see ya"! I might not have written a little for Ginna if I'd known. Did I do okay on Ginna?
I was in the area and I thought I'd drop by. :D It's good to see you back here, too! Imagine my surprise when I saw you post...

You did great. Hard to unlearn old fears, indeed. I have a couple more weeks of freedom before classes resume. Do you want to write a little something for Harreld and Ginna? ;) (Advanced warning: Lhuna is rusty.)

[Folwren]

Lhuna, we'd LOVE it if you wrote something. :D It'll feel like the whole family is back in one place again. ;)

Nogrod, your post was good. I feel that if we wanted to, we could move on soon. Perhaps we should wait for another word from Durelin, but if we don't hear from her, we can move to the next day.

One problem: I really have no idea who Thornden would choose. I'll have to peruse the list of soldiers that are being played. Any suggestions for anyone? It would be a BAD idea to send Matrim and Aflorgad (or however you spell his name) off together. I actually think that Thornden wouldn't pick Matrim anyway, I just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Lhunardawen]

Foley: :)

For the sake of putting things in context, if ever, do you mind giving me a quick summary of everything that's happened since Eodwine and Saeryn got married? The only things I picked up from my browsing are that Eodwine got sick and is now in the Houses of Healing, Athanar's the new eorl, and Erbrand (joined by Lithor) fled when he (accidentally?) killed one of his men. I'm sure I missed a lot of important stuff.

[littlemanpoet]

I have a couple more weeks of freedom before classes resume. Do you want to write a little something for Harreld and Ginna? ;) (Advanced warning: Lhuna is rusty.)Go for it, rusty or not! I like it better when you write for Ginna instead of me.

Edit: Lhuna, would you like me to change my posts a little bit, or do you want to add something to it? Feel free to tell me, or PM a change, or however you want to handle it... Also, didn't Harreld and Ginna become betrothed the day of Eodwine and Saeryn's wedding? I s'pose we had better think about that, as well as timing for a marriage if that's what will happen? And Ginna's father is not likely to warm to it either, come to think of it....

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Foley: :)

For the sake of putting things in context, if ever, do you mind giving me a quick summary of everything that's happened since Eodwine and Saeryn got married? The only things I picked up from my browsing are that Eodwine got sick and is now in the Houses of Healing, Athanar's the new eorl, and Erbrand (joined by Lithor) fled when he (accidentally?) killed one of his men. I'm sure I missed a lot of important stuff.

He didn't kill him, but he thought he killed him, and he fled. It was an unfortunate set of coincidences, basically leading the men to start fighting each other when nobody else was around. The man (certain soldier called Scyrr) is now being cared of by the healer (he was badly wounded, but not dead). The next step (and the main reason why Athanar came anyway) is to deal with the local landlords who seemed not to be very keen on the eorl-less Mead Hall sticking its nose into their private "realms". Otherwise, I think you have listed the rest correctly. I don't know much anything about pre-Athanar events, so perhaps somebody else can tell you, although I assume there wasn't much.


One problem: I really have no idea who Thornden would choose. I'll have to peruse the list of soldiers that are being played. Any suggestions for anyone? It would be a BAD idea to send Matrim and Aflorgad (or however you spell his name) off together. I actually think that Thornden wouldn't pick Matrim anyway, I just thought I'd throw that out there.
But wouldn't that be hilarious if Áforglaed (that's the name ;) ) went with Matrim? But no, I think it can be anybody. But if we plan to write for these two fellows as well, then it would be nice if the other one was somebody's specific character, so that there can be some nice dialogue on the way. Or we just treat it as NPC-trip and say "well, they went there and came back".

[Nogrod]

But wouldn't that be hilarious if Áforglaed (that's the name ;) ) went with Matrim? But no, I think it can be anybody. But if we plan to write for these two fellows as well, then it would be nice if the other one was somebody's specific character, so that there can be some nice dialogue on the way. Or we just treat it as NPC-trip and say "well, they went there and came back".I think it depends wholly on that latter question. If someone wants to write for the trip - together, or alone with an NPC - then we should choose it thus. If we want to just tell they went there and came back, then it could be any two NPC-soldiers (preferably not someone we like to write about and could thus be used with the others meeting the lords).

So anyone willing to write about the trip?

And hey Foley, lord Athanar actually meant what he said; that he'd like to see two people chosen who have strongly opposing views. That is the whole point. He will send a letter to king Eomer about the fugitives, but he will also add that Eomer should ask the messengers about why what happened did happen... (and he's not going to tell the messengers that the king will be asking their views on the matter) :rolleyes:

So he's telling the king how things are without whining about his troubles himself. :)

And thinking of two soldiers on a mission - even if totally on different POV, or even in hate or anger - they just would need to see the task done and to come back without killing each other, unless they wished to share the fate of Lithor... So yes, lord Athanar is quite confident nothing bad will happen between the two.



On other issues...

Great to see you Lhuna! And I like lmp's Harreld, the way he takes the issue.

Abour changing the day:

I'd like to write a short post after we decide on the messengers, but that is not a must. I can write it also as a view back in the morning - like Athanar thinking about the last night when he sent the messengers, or anything.

If you Lhuna wish to put something in for the late evening, please do. And naturally everyone else.

Should we say that we'd start the next day on Monday (RL)? Before that everyone is free to make posts for the evening or night. Also, as I'm not sure about my Monday scheduals (it can be either a relaxed day or a hectic one), then I'd say that anyone coming to the thread on Monday (his or her timezone) could open the new day. What do you think?

And if that is okay, then let's try to decide on the messengers before Monday...

[Folwren]

Lhuna, here is the timeline I put up after Elempi came back:

August 9, Saery and Eodwine married.
October 9th, Eodwine falls ill.
October 10th, the three significant lords of the Middle Emnet come to Scarburg. They refuse to recognize Saeryn's and Thornden's authority and don't pay taxes, but offer to give a gift so they can survive the next month...how kind.
November 10, Degas comes back into town. (Post 506)
November 11, Lord Athanar and his entourage comes to Scarburg. (post 509)

On November 12, Erbrand gets into a fight with Scyrr, thinks he kills him (but doesn't quite) and flees. Lithor meets him on his way out and decides to go with him, and so deserts. The rest of the day was spent looking for them, and now that they haven't been found, Athanar is sending word to King Eomer and in the mean time, is going to go and deal with the stiff-necked landlords.

Is that too brief? I can put more detail to things if you want, but I think it's pretty clear cut. Except, what's not so clear, is that people really clashed that first day that Athanar arrived. Two fights broke out, one between Matrim and Aforglead and one between Javan and Aedre (Lord Athanar's daughter), Saeryn was ousted from her place of lady of the hall by Athanar's wife Wynflaed, Athanar proclaimed his eorlship by providing a paper showing the king's decree, and Lithor managed to insult Athanar by a comic speech that Athanar did not approve of. So, yeah, that day of their arrival was really busy and didn't work out too smoothly.

[Folwren]

Nogrod, I'd rather not put a time line on when we start the new day. We'll see if we're ready by Monday, but if not, I'd say we shouldn't rush it. But that's just my opinion and there are a lot of other players here now.

[Mnemosyne]

When we're ready to move on to the next day, I've got a little something for Wynflaed drummed up so that I can cover what happened for the rest of this day from her POV. I think it'd make for a good transition, but I'd rather not post it until we're ready to move on.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod, I'd rather not put a time line on when we start the new day. We'll see if we're ready by Monday, but if not, I'd say we shouldn't rush it. I have no reason to hurry either... I just caught a feel from some posting (especially yours Foley! :rolleyes:) that people were anxious to change the day.

But we should probably make a deal that those who wish to contribute to the day we're on should voice their wish to do so.

[Lhunardawen]

Thank you, Legate and Foley. :)

Lhuna, would you like me to change my posts a little bit, or do you want to add something to it? Feel free to tell me, or PM a change, or however you want to handle it... Also, didn't Harreld and Ginna become betrothed the day of Eodwine and Saeryn's wedding? I s'pose we had better think about that, as well as timing for a marriage if that's what will happen? And Ginna's father is not likely to warm to it either, come to think of it....
I sent you a PM. (I'm guessing it would be useless to say this. :D)

[Folwren]

I have no reason to hurry either... I just caught a feel from some posting (especially yours Foley! :rolleyes:) that people were anxious to change the day.

*blush* Yeah, sorry about that. I do often come across as impatient. Although I'm ready to move on, I'd like others to have plenty of time to post....I also really want to hear from Dury again.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I went through all the soldiers that had players and couldn't find any that fit Athanar's bill, so I went to see what kind of NPC characters we had...none that would do that I could find in the little time I had, but I remembered that some soldiers had been played way at the beginning days of the Mead Hall, so I looked that old thread up and found Garwine. I believe he's a fairly mild chap, but I didn't want to create a whole new NPC who'd never been mentioned before -that just seemed wrong for some reason - so I grabbed him. :|

Too bad Crabannan isn't a soldier. I'd have chosen him in a heartbeat.

All that to say, I've posted and I think that we can move on if everyone wants to.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I think this is going nicely... and I have nothing against moving on. I am just popping in here mainly to say that I won't be around until Sunday, so that if anybody required me to post, or had any question during that time, don't expect the answer until then :) I think I might have something to post during the expedition to the foreign lords, but I am sure it can be inserted if need be, or if you moved so far forward...

And in case Dury appears, or even if she does not and we consider whom to send to Edoras (although that could also be inserted, if it came to that, as it is not so important if there are just NPCs going), Áforglaed might be a good idea still, at least if Coen has also noticed that he is not quite okay with Scyrr being wounded now... In fact, if Athanar wants the soldiers to have both-sided account of events to Éomer, then Áforglaed is probably the man to send.

[Folwren]

I personally thought that when Nogrod wrote the post, Áforglaed would be perfect to send, too.

[Firefoot]

Things have gotten busy here! And welcome back, Elempi. :)

I've been lurking on and off but have been too busy to try and make things happen... (this semester has been terrible in terms of workload). However, now that things are going on I'm definitely going to make an effort to keep with it. I have a lot to do this afternoon but hopefully by the weekend I should be able to get a post up.

[Lhunardawen]

Nogrod, in case you were waiting, I have nothing to put in for this day (game time). I'm just waiting for the next day - albeit still unprepared for it. :rolleyes:

[Nogrod]

Nogrod, in case you were waiting, I have nothing to put in for this day (game time). I'm just waiting for the next day - albeit still unprepared for it. :rolleyes:I'd say anyone willing should post for the next morning now as it seems no one has anything to add in to the evening.

I'll make a post as well for the next day tomorrow or the day after, but do not wait for me. Any posts on the new day are good.


Mnemo, go on posting if you have something in your mind - and if you need any help from me in regards Athanar, just PM!

lmp - trying to PM you back tomorrow... (too late now).


So the next day should be dawning!

[littlemanpoet]

It's great to be back, Firefoot! :)

And it's great to have a new day to write in. A couple of us have been discussing a great new mess of a plot development that I'm more than eager to get started on. Not telling yet, you'll have to see it unfold. :rubs hands eagerly: :D :D

EDIT: Foley, let me know if any of the words I put in Thornden's mouth need to be changed.

[Folwren]

Okay, Elempi...at first I thought maybe Thornden wouldn't mention that he stank, but then it occurred to me, maybe, if he knew him well enough. Then I thought, "No, probably not" but then I thought, "Well, it'll make what we have planned even better if we make it out that Thornden and Harreld are on very familiar terms with each other." So, keep it.

BUT I don't think Thornden is actually going. I think he is sending Garwine. I wish Thornden were going, but I don't think Athanar will allow it. Nogrod? Am I right? Harreld can ask if the messengers can drop by Garreth's place.

Mnemosyne, I know your probably writing a post for the previous day. Go ahead and finish, if you're still planning on writing it and we'll work it in either at the end of my last post or beginning of Elempi's new day post.

And I think that's all I've got. I may try posting this evening, but I doubt I'll manage it.

-- Foley

[Mnemosyne]

Post is up; how do we want to work it in to the narrative?

Nog, let me know if I got Athanar wrong in any way, or if there are any other "behind the scenes" duties that I should have slipped in, or anything.

[Nogrod]

Mnemo: that was very good indeed! And I don't think we need to change anything timewise either - one or two posts on both sides of the night shouldn't be a problem.

Foley: you're quite right, lord Athanar would not let Thornden go as he needs him - but he would probably be okay with the messengers stopping by at Garreth's.

Adding more twists to the mess... well surely! Go on lmp!

[littlemanpoet]

Thornden staying - fixed. I'm glad you were okay with the "you stink" part. Guys will talk like that to their friends.

[Durelin]

So I posted a sort of general reflection/catch up post for Coen.

As for him finding out about Thornden hiding something...well, he suspected Thornden at least of wanting to protect Erbrand (and Lithor), but he had a fairly high opinion of Thornden at first so doesn't really want to think he's hiding something very specific, other than that he has a lot of sympathy for the two and thinks they have been mistreated. Which is enough to make Coen angry!

I suppose he does suspect him hiding something, though he doesn't want to. Apparently he's a strange combination of idealistic and bitter. Or rather he decides what he thinks about someone within a couple moments interaction and then it takes him months or years to change that image of someone even if it's wrong.

Anyway I'm rambling. So if Hilderinc or someone else spoke to Coen about it and got his suspicions going...well, if it was Hilderinc he might go straight to Athanar cause he trusts him so much. If it was someone else he doesn't trust as much, he'd go confront Thornden. But he also might feel he needs to confront Thornden and make *him* tell Athanar. Kind of like dragging a kid who's done something bad to apologize.

Er...anyway...I guess those are my thoughts. I see that you wanted to try to fit the reveal in possibly to the dinner the previous evening... I suppose Hilderinc could find Coen in the stables and inform him? That is if you both want to go through with that. It is up to you, Legate and Foley. Or we can hold off and keep building whatever tensions...

[Folwren]

Durelin, I'm so excited that you came and posted! Your post was really good. I like Coenred a lot.

It makes little difference that Coen and Hilderinc didn't talk the previous night. It can happen whenever. It happening this morning would be fine, or later. Legate, what do you think?

I wish I could post something tonight, but I can't. Besides that, I don't even know what I'd post about. Maybe Thornden asking Athanar if the messengers can stop by Garreth's smithy, but we've already said that'd be fine here on the discussion thread so I thought that maybe would be superfluous. But if others think not, maybe I'll post that. I dunno.

Anyway, I'll see about things in the morning. G'night, all.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Nice posts!

But I noticed a problem... Looking at the situation, lord Athanar would have wished to send the messengers to Edoras asap, meaning sending them into the back of the night (which I indeed wrote there in the thread), but now it seems people are asking about who goes and where in the morning!

The whole idea was that the messengers should go as soon as possible. What kind of a lord is that which gives the outlaws 12 more hours head-start?
"Tell them to meet me here in one and half hour to pick my letter to the king - and as I know anyone would be reluctant to go riding through the night, especially after this kind of a day, tell them they will have a day free tomorrow in Edoras and they will have to report to me they're back only in the evening meal of the day after tomorrow. That clear?"

So how about you lmp & Foley changed the time-setting of your posts making them meet in the late evening, like before going to sleep? That would also make Mnemo's post in it's due place... Dury's post I think would be unaffected.

It's a kind of a logic issue. If Athanar says in the evening "let them come here in one and half hour" - and we start to think who they are and what they would do the next morning...

EDIT: I thought of writing a short post for Athanar but will now withold it for a moment until you answer to my proposal so as not to write anything I'd need to edit heavily afterwards...

[Folwren]

Oooh. I missed that. For some reason I though tthey were leaving the next morning. Okay. Should I just delete my post, as it's set in the morning? It'd be just as easy to write a whole new one as rewrite this one.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

It'd be just as easy to write a whole new one as rewrite this one.Well, there are two of you posting about the morning, so I'd think just changing the setting into the late evening would be easier... but whichever you think is done with less effort... I mean I have no problem with the posts as such (they're nice indeed!), only the timing of them goes contrary to what should have happened. :)

[Folwren]

I actually think that what would be more likely is if Harreld didn't know that the messengers were going that night and he missed them entirely. But that's Elempi's call...plus, if Harreld misses this chance of sending a message, it'd be tough to come up with a reason to send a third rider to Edoras. UNLESS Harreld decides to take a holiday while the men-at-arms are off tax-collecting and he goes to Edoras himself.

[littlemanpoet]

I'll fix my post to come at night. I can alter Harreld's motivation a bit to account for him not knowing the messengers are going out that night - that he's just lucky this once. :P

EDIT: Okay, I've altered my post to come late that night. There are quite a few changes, so Foley you'll need to read it to see how to change yours. Let me know if anything doesn't work.

2nd EDIT: But now I've read Foley's post (didn't before) and I see that I've kind of messed her up. Do you think it would be best for Harreld to appear before Athanar too?

[Folwren]

Elempi, don't worry about anything. I'll just re-do my post to correspond what you wrote. As I said, it would be easier for me to re-write than edit a previous post.

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I rewrote the post and I think it's much better this way.

Nogrod, let me know if I handled Athanar right. I just figured that as we were in the editing stage, it would be much easier and more reasonable for me to just write it out myself and not try to do a back and forth. Particularly since you'd said it'd be alright with Athanar. :)

So, we're ready for this next day. Yay!

Firefoot, I am glad to see you around and posting. Does Leof get to ride with us?

[littlemanpoet]

Nice post Foley. Now I'm wondering if we want to wait until Garwine and friend bring back word from Edoras, including a certain letter from Ginna's father? Or do we want a separate messenger to deliver that note on THIS day? What do you think, Foley & Lhuna?

[Nogrod]

Foley: would you put this in your last post, like to the beginning of it (before Thornden meets Athanar)? I feel lord Athanar would need to have this to say before the messengers went off.


--- * ----

Lord Athanr looked at the empty parchment and wrote the words My King, to begin the letter. It felt preposterous and not himself. He took the parchment and folded it in parts, sending it to the fire.

My lord. He began the next one. He looked at the paper for a while and thought it would have to suffice.


I need to make a call for a tanner named Erbrand and a soldier named Lithor. This Erbrand tried to kill one of my men, Scyrr, if you remember the old warhorse; and Lithor joined Erbrand in escape after having been judged for trying to revolt against your rule. The two are armed and dangerous. Although I find it sad to call after them as they seemed like good men.

They ran away before noon this day and I sent men to go after them as soon as their desertion caught my ears. Neither was found around the premises within ten miles.

Do ask the two messengers I sent you with this message, why there were these troubles. You'll get the picture from there.

Yours truly,

lord Athanar


He eyed the parchment once more and then rolled it to a tube pressing his seal of wax on it.

Coming downstairs he met Aforglaed and Garwine waiting for him in the hall.

"So it is you two to carry the message?" Both of the men nodded. "Good..."

"Give this letter to the king - and do not let all the soothsayers get in front of you. Say it is important news from the Scarburg Mead Hall."

Lord Athanar gave the parchement to Garwine and stood back. "Go with my best wishes and come back later... and use your free time in Edoras well..." he smiled to the two and winked an eye to them.

"I'm waiting to hear your report the day after tomorrow.... Now ride as like the ghosts would pursue you... the earlier the king learns of your news the better chances there are getting these two caught."

[Lhunardawen]

Nice post Foley. Now I'm wondering if we want to wait until Garwine and friend bring back word from Edoras, including a certain letter from Ginna's father? Or do we want a separate messenger to deliver that note on THIS day? What do you think, Foley & Lhuna?

I'm for using the same messenger going back...for fun. Or whichever works for our purposes. (Foley: ;))

Also I'm hit with a really bad case of writer's block (told ya I'm rusty :rolleyes: ) and will be internetless for today and tomorrow. I hope that serves as a cure somehow.

[Folwren]

Foley: would you put this in your last post, like to the beginning of it (before Thornden meets Athanar)?

Done and done. :)

Lhuna, I hope you break your writer's block soon. Remember, Elempi offered you his help, and I'm sure if he isn't available, I'd be willing to help, too. ;)

-- Fols

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

So if Hilderinc or someone else spoke to Coen about it and got his suspicions going...well, if it was Hilderinc he might go straight to Athanar cause he trusts him so much. If it was someone else he doesn't trust as much, he'd go confront Thornden. But he also might feel he needs to confront Thornden and make *him* tell Athanar. Kind of like dragging a kid who's done something bad to apologize.

Er...anyway...I guess those are my thoughts. I see that you wanted to try to fit the reveal in possibly to the dinner the previous evening... I suppose Hilderinc could find Coen in the stables and inform him? That is if you both want to go through with that. It is up to you, Legate and Foley. Or we can hold off and keep building whatever tensions...
It makes little difference that Coen and Hilderinc didn't talk the previous night. It can happen whenever. It happening this morning would be fine, or later. Legate, what do you think?
I think I can make it happen like you said, Coen and Hilderinc meeting in the stables. Indeed I originally wanted to write about it as part of the previous evening dinner-talk, but then I decided that the course of events was a bit, hmm, rushed for that, with the messengers being sent and stuff. But I think I can post it now - as it's getting late here, I am probably going to post sometime tomorrow my time.

But it really looks like you all did a wonderful job here, and I like all the posts, and looking forward to see what comes further :)

[Firefoot]

For clarification - are the Scarburg folk riding out to the homesteads of the local lords, or are the local lords coming to Scarburg again? I feel like I missed something.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

For clarification - are the Scarburg folk riding out to the homesteads of the local lords, or are the local lords coming to Scarburg again? I feel like I missed something.

I was under the impression that we are going after them, to their own homesteads.

And I have posted, seems at last it is out. Dury, let me know if I have handled Coen incorrectly, or if you want me to edit in some way his words - I wanted to post only as much as I needed to keep the conversation running the way it should. I have ended my post with the assumption that Coen will also figure out what had happened (or at least part of it, that is, that Hilderinc saw either Lithor or Erbrand or both riding away), and I made Hilderinc realise it himself too (as I wrote it, I thought that it seemed logical, it would be pretty dumb of Hilderinc not to realise at least the basic possibility). If there is a different way you want the things to unfold, or, more like if Coen reacts in some unusual way or does not react at all, I can edit the ending...

That said, I think it is not so bad yet, and in fact, the subject is already outdated, but this is upon Coen to handle now...