Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 14

Nogrod

07-06-2011, 02:33 PM

Hah! I love the way people can make their characters interpret situations in so many ways outside any scope I have or could have...

How is it possible some people write novels on their own without all these totally un-thought-of view-points? Well, maybe that's why great novelists are great when they can do all that alone?

But yes, I'm enjoying all this totally odd interpretation! This is the stuff great stories are told from...

It is great people post from totally different POV's and misunderstand each other's character's intentions, but we should pay heed to the "facts" anyway - however loosely we'll need to define the word 'fact' here.

I have one thing I'd just like to make notice, and it is in the last post where you write as follows:Where do you expect a family like Stigend and Modtryth with their son, or Garstan with his two little ones, to go in the midst of winter?They have no reason to fear for their place or to be uncertain - or to feel unwanted. On the contrary, lord Athanar has a high respect to his craftsmen - he even allowed one more of the old craftmen to be called for if you have forgotten.

Lord Athanar has a great respect for professionals and he is very much happy with the bunch he has there at the Mead Hall, and he has treated them with full respect thinking they are now his men whom he cares and respects. He might have his views about the plans as he is a little bit of an aesthete / architect himself and he will see his will to be done in a tight place - but he is also willing to listen to the professionals and change his plans accordingly.

So I think there should be no fear in the craftsmen that their stature was pending or otherwise insecure at the Mead Hall - not all of them, none, need to like lord Athanar, but none of them should feel insecure or left alone or threathened. No way.

It's okay for me if Saeryn has no knowledge or understanding of how things stand in relation to Athanar and the craftsmen and she speaks just off the truth from her totally misguided understanding of the situation, but if you Foley think Saeryn should be cognizant of how things go around the Mead Hall you might like to edit that part.

Up to you Foley, well up to Saeryn... :)

EDIT: I think I actually said in a post a long time ago that Athanar brought forwards no craftsmen of his own as he was told by king Eomer there were excellent hands at the Mead Hall already... enough for any renovation project.

EDIT2: It just hit me... actully Athanar bringing forth just one master craftsman with him might make a nice possibility for play along the craftsmen... There has been no mention of that person thus far but there has been little posting about the craftsmen anyway, so we could add that one there for sure? Anyone interested in taking that role?

Folwren

07-06-2011, 03:26 PM

lol...Nogrod, I think Saeryn's line there was more in reference to Eodwine saying, "They could've left if they'd wanted to, like Lithor and Erbrand did." And she was more like, "No, they can't. This is their home, even if they don't like the eorl, they have to stay." And both she and I were thinking of the kids, not of the father's profession. :o

I think that in reality, Athanar is doing a fine job as an eorl. Saeryn just has hard feelings about Athanar taking her husband's place, and about Lithor. Apparently she has trouble letting things go. ;)

It'll be interesting to see how Thornden is thinking at this time. I guess I should start deciding on that, shouldn't I?

And, per some comments that Elempi made, I am going to re-vise the ending of that last post a little. I'll let you know when those edits are made.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-06-2011, 05:39 PM

And, per some comments that Elempi made, I am going to re-vise the ending of that last post a little. I'll let you know when those edits are made.

-- FoleyI only picked two nits. Honest! :D

Folwren

07-06-2011, 06:11 PM

I only picked two nits. Honest! :D

It's not a problem, imp, as you well know.

Lhunardawen

07-06-2011, 07:50 PM

Elempi! We've never heard from Garreth since he arrived at the Mead Hall. ;)

Folwren

07-06-2011, 10:49 PM

Okay, I edited my post.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-07-2011, 03:44 AM

Elempi! We've never heard from Garreth since he arrived at the Mead Hall. ;)
Thanks for the reminder. I'm afraid my participation will be spotty at best over the next few days. Traveling.

Nogrod

07-07-2011, 03:20 PM

I think it's better lord Athanar was somewhere else when Saeryn and Eodwine came back downstairs... ;)

Folwren

07-07-2011, 03:53 PM

I think it's better lord Athanar was somewhere else when Saeryn and Eodwine came back downstairs... ;)

Ha! You think? I wonder if Saeryn would even have said that if he were present...

-- Foley

Nogrod

07-07-2011, 04:26 PM

Ha! You think? I wonder if Saeryn would even have said that if he were present...I know... :D And even after Athanar had promised to leave everything to Saeryn's child when the time comes (before there was any hope of Eodwine coming back to life)... if king Eomer was willing, that is. :rolleyes:

Thus are the righteous rewarded, with scorn and scheming... If I were not a kind of feminist myself in RL, I'd say something about the mind of a woman here... :)

But storywise, I love these stubborn characters. What drama would there be if everyone was considerate, good-hearted, reasonable and honourable?

Folwren

07-07-2011, 04:58 PM

Thus are the righteous rewarded, with scorn and scheming... If I were not a kind of feminist myself in RL, I'd say something about the mind of a woman here... :)

There is definitely something to be said about the mind of a woman. lol.

But storywise, I love these stubborn characters. What drama would there be if everyone was considerate, good-hearted, reasonable and honourable?

I like what this is insinuating about Saeryn's character...:p

As I've told Elempi, to be honest, I'm really disliking Saeryn right now. She's just not being very likeable. And poor Eodwine, come back sick and weak and all...doesn't get a moment's rest. I had no idea she'd make such a contentious wife. "Better to sleep on a corner on a roof than to share a house with a quarrelsome wife." I don't know what proverb that is, but it's there. *sigh*

Nogrod

07-07-2011, 05:06 PM

She's just not being very likeable. And poor Eodwine, come back sick and weak and all...doesn't get a moment's rest. I had no idea she'd make such a contentious wife. "Better to sleep on a corner on a roof than to share a house with a quarrelsome wife." I don't know what proverb that is, but it's there. *sigh*:)

I have been reading the Game of Thrones lately and Saeryn surely feels a bit like Cersei Lannister... well not that bad, but something near enough to provoke the comparison. :D

But I do wonder if she was like that before? Interesting "psycho-dynamics" here how seeing Eodwine makes her that hysteric... well, you know some pregnant women can be a bit moody... :confused:

Folwren

07-07-2011, 08:40 PM

Nogrod! What are you trying to do? Get Athanar eaten alive??

I am working on something right now, but once I get it finished, I may be able to post again this evening.

-- Foley

Nogrod

07-07-2011, 09:02 PM

Nogrod! What are you trying to do? Get Athanar eaten alive?? I do think Saeryn is a strong-willed persona who can do a lot, but she will not be cabable of eating Athanar - he's too old and experienced to be bullied that way... :rolleyes: Actually if Saeryn gets mad he would just order her to go to her room - and then report to Eodwine... :rolleyes:

Don't forget that Athanar has seen the world and is not starter to life's little wonders like pregnancies and what they can do to people. He will, if pressed to the edge, treat Saeryn like a child, but hopefully that is not required.

Folwren

07-07-2011, 09:08 PM

Athanar treating her like a child after Eodwine did would probably push Saeryn over the edge and she'd murder someone. ;) Not really....lol....I don't know what to do. For the sake of interest, I'm tempted to do something beyond just her saying, "Nothing, sir. I'm fine," and going into her room. But that's more realistic.

littlemanpoet

07-08-2011, 09:56 AM

Lhuna and I prepared posts at the same time, and hers needed to go ahead of mine, so she messaged it to me and I put hers at the beginning of mine.

By the way, Eegads! What has happened to Saeryn? :eek: ;)

Lhunardawen

07-08-2011, 10:02 AM

I don't know about Elempi, but I found the coincidence delightfully funny.
By the way, Eegads! What has happened to Saeryn? :eek: ;) I could ask exactly the same thing. If I were Athanar I'd probably have her in a straitjacket. :p

littlemanpoet

07-08-2011, 10:12 AM

The scary thing is that Saeryn has not merely stated her opinion to Athanar, but her intention. :eek: If he sees the smallest whiff of her trying to make good on her threat, what then? :eek:

Folwren

07-08-2011, 10:49 AM

Mwahahaha. I love it.

I don't know exactly what's gotten into Saeryn, I just know I enjoy writing in order to provoke the best reactons from other writers.

I actually think what's happened is that she's pent up her feelings of being wronged for, what, a month? And she expected things to be set right when Eodwine returned...and since her expected relief turned out not to be a relief at all, her disapointment cannot being held back, and all her frustration is coming out.

-- Foley

Folwren

07-08-2011, 10:56 AM

I would like writing with Thornden again. Is there anybody in the great hall with whom he can interact? Legate, Lommy, Durelin, and Nogrod probably have characters out there. Any takers?

Firefoot, if you like, I imagine you can bring Leof into the hall, too.

-- Foley

Nogrod

07-08-2011, 04:17 PM

Lord Athanar will treat Saeryn as someone who has just flipped; the pregnancy (it can drive some women crazy), the stress, the fears, the hopes... And he has some confidence in Eodwine being a decent and reasonable person.

So he will not relate what she said to him there in public (aka. he will not talk about it to anyone in public), but he will be a bit troubled by it, saddened and confused (as he thought him promising the place to their child was an offer more generous anyone could have reasonably hoped for - even if he had his own reasons to exit the Mead Hall in fifteen years or so in the first place; but those reasons he has not shared with anyone) and in a fatherly way, he is much worried about her.

Heh, one more thing Athanar and Eodwine should speak on.

I would like writing with Thornden again. Is there anybody in the great hall with whom he can interact? Legate, Lommy, Durelin, and Nogrod probably have characters out there. Any takers?I think lmp's last post is screaming for Thornden to meet Eodwine... and it would be good for those two to meet both in the "believability section" and in the "how things will shape up -section"...

Firefoot

07-08-2011, 04:56 PM

I've been on vacation for the last week... didn't expect this would take off so quickly. :eek: I doubt I'll be able to post before Monday (my cousin's getting married tomorrow and then there's a long drive back on Sunday), but definitely by then I'll get something up. I think it's time to figure out what Scyld's been up to lately, as well... quietly observing things in the background, I imagine.

littlemanpoet

07-09-2011, 08:19 AM

I think it's time to figure out what Scyld's been up to lately, as well... quietly observing things in the background, I imagine.
Anything "Scyld" is eagerly anticipated. :)

Firefoot, has Scyld revealed himself to Scarburgians yet? I'm thinking not, but could be wrong. ???

Firefoot

07-09-2011, 09:26 PM

Nope... he's still Nydfara to them. And the only other person who knows anything (Erbrand, I think) is gone.

littlemanpoet

07-10-2011, 06:48 PM

Nope... he's still Nydfara to them. And the only other person who knows anything (Erbrand, I think) is gone.

I really think Rowenna has to stumble into him somehow. Just feels like it's meant to be.

Legate of Amon Lanc

07-11-2011, 01:29 AM

Oh, that looks just very interesting, but just as I predicted, the storm of events comes just when I am not available... I had barely time to read this, I am now just popping at the computer for literally few hours and it looks like I won't be able to post basically until close to the end of August. Well, let's see how it goes - I can always post just some retrospective evaluation of stuff on Hilderinc's part. However then I should be able to post normally and since by the close of August I'll be spending most of my time with studying for philosophy exam, I surely would use good breaks and could get on some posting spree myself. :)

Durelin

07-11-2011, 11:53 AM

Not that I am in the middle of the action here or anything but wanted to let everyone know that I will be gone from the 14th-19th.

So, Foley, I would really like to have Coen and Thornden interact here just as Eodwine has returned (and Coen is in the hall with the men so it'd make sense) but it'd have to be brief otherwise I'll leave you hanging for a while... I'm sure there will be time later, I won't be gone that long hehe.

Firefoot

07-11-2011, 08:34 PM

I really think Rowenna has to stumble into him somehow. Just feels like it's meant to be. Agreed.

It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to get anything up tonight, but definitely tomorrow I'm going to get posts up for both Leof and Scyld.

Folwren

07-11-2011, 10:11 PM

Durelin, I agree that it'd be fun to do some interaction between Coen and Thornden. If you get a chance to post before I have, go right ahead. I don't know when I'll get to post - this week at camp is really crazy. I wanted to today, but didn't get a chance, and who knows what tomorrow will bring. Maybe if I wake up early and can't get back to sleep, I'll post. Don't hold your breath. Sleep is a precious commodity around here.

EDIT: Never mind all that fuss. I actually just bit the bullet, stayed up past lights-out time, and wrote a post. I have no doubt it is poorly written, and I may revise it in time, but I'd thought I'd through it up so that if you have itme, Durelin, you can post. The conversation is open enough, I figure, Coen can get in somehow. :)

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-12-2011, 09:35 AM

Poorly written my foot.

Obviously, I must identify with Eodwine a lot - Thornden's good thoughts about him just about choked me up. :p

Firefoot - I thought so - starting with post 198 there has already been an exchange between "Nydfara" and Rowenna, and others. Might want to check it out. I will in more depth too.

Folwren

07-12-2011, 04:02 PM

Obviously, I must identify with Eodwine a lot - Thornden's good thoughts about him just about choked me up. :p

Ah, how sweet. :)

Firefoot - I thought so - starting with post 198 there has already been an exchange between "Nydfara" and Rowenna, and others. Might want to check it out. I will in more depth too.

I thought so. I seem to have remembered it quite clearly. Didn't she slap him?

littlemanpoet

07-12-2011, 05:06 PM

Ah yes, I remember the slap. :D How endearing of her. ;)

Nogrod

07-12-2011, 05:17 PM

I just love to see things happening.

Yay for all!

Lord Athanar will be busy looking after the last works on the renovation as the winter is coming (it's like runnnig against time as any day could be the first day of winter), but I think there should be a feast in the honour of Eodwine coming back in the evening ordered by Athanar.

So you can take it for granted he has ordered the people in the kitchen to prepare for it.

I'll try to have time to involve Stigend and Garstan as well. But if anyone sees a natural way to include them with their character meanwhile - or Cnebba & the other kids - please be welcome to do it.

Folwren

07-12-2011, 05:20 PM

It's mid December...December13, I believe. They are about a month into winter, are they not? At least? We've described hard frosts, freezing wind, and snow...

-- Foley

Nogrod

07-12-2011, 05:35 PM

It's mid December...December13, I believe. They are about a month into winter, are they not? At least? We've described hard frosts, freezing wind, and snow...Heh, I thought it was a bit earlier (even if not much), but it comes down to what kind of climate we think Rohan has... I mean if you come to the central or northern Finland, December is more often than not wintertime with snow on the ground "permanently" and temperatures below freezing, but in Helsinki it has not been so for decades (on average - not counting the last two years which have been like back in the seventies) - and if you go to the Central Europe, it's not winter that early as if there is winter at all it is January & February... I don't know how it works in the States though.

But what I mean is, that in up North you will have a Winter where it is snow, ice and below freezing for months - and thus some freezing wind or occasional snow doesn't make a winter. But what is our idea of a Rohanian "winter"? I think we haven't thought about it yet and have our own unreflected ideas about it - and I can see I have myself been too sloppy about it.

Maybe we should exchange some views about the winter of Rohan, just to be on the same page?

Folwren

07-12-2011, 09:43 PM

Ha...I vote for somewhere in between a Canadian or Finlandish winter and Florida/Italy.

I guess I was picturing it with a winter kind of like England or Ireland...not that I know much about winter there, but I do not think it is too severe. Not a great deal of snow, some freezing weather, ice, frost, etc. I dunno.

About my last post - it is clumsily done, Durelin, but I have engaged Coenred in conversation.

Firefoot, Quin is talking with Leof. Feel free to keep that conversation going and use NPCs for more conversation and comments from the men. I'll keep playing Quin with you, too. :)

-- Foley

Firefoot

07-12-2011, 10:24 PM

Folwren - will do.

My thoughts about the weather were pretty similar. My impression is that the Shire doesn't get a whole lot of snow, and Rohan is even further south, though more in the mountains. So definitely cold, with some snow, ice, etc.

Scyld has been brought back into the mix. It took me quite a while to get going with him (a couple hours), but once I got going I found there was quite a bit to say... but it's getting late so I cut the post off. I'm imagining him sticking around in the Great Hall with the soldiers though.

Lhunardawen

07-13-2011, 12:21 AM

Next thing he’d be fluttering and sighing (or crying, as had been the case lately) over the hall romances like the kitchen girls. Ouch. Nothing stays secret in the kitchen, huh? :p

I'm so happy to see Scyld again. :)

littlemanpoet

07-14-2011, 03:24 AM

Tolkien placed Rohan in the same kind of latitude as southern France. The White Mountains serve Eorling climate pretty much the way the Pyrenees and Alps serve southern France. Of course, Rohan has no Mediterranean so the winters might be less temperate.

Thinlómien

07-14-2011, 04:47 PM

Folwren

07-14-2011, 06:06 PM

Hiya all, again sorry for my absence but I have been and will be busy. Anyway, Lhuna and LMP managed to get me to write a pm post with them so I wrote a little something for Modtryth today, and will try to keep up with stuff then (Modtryth seems to have been quite busy while I've been away ;)). Also, next week I will write for Wulfric and/or Wilheard, reveal what became of Wulfric's thoughts to go see Faramund and probably have them return from a hunting trip or something like that to Eodwine's homecoming - and also hopefully write a little something for Cnebba as what I wrote for Modtryth implied the boys have been up to some mischief again... ;)

Excellent. I am excited about everything above, Lommy. I was curious about the boys, too, but didn't feel like coming up with something. It would be amazing if you did write for them. Is Javan amongst the mischief makers?

I am also impatient to see this co-post that keeps being spoken about, between Elempi, Lhuna, and now you! It is a million pages long by now, or are you all just taking your time about writing it?

-- Folwren

Firefoot

07-14-2011, 06:45 PM

I ran out of time while writing my post, but I wanted to get it up... I'm not too clear on how swearing fealty works myself, so if need be I can edit the last few lines of my post if it doesn't make sense in context. Someone who has greater knowledge than me can let me know... :)

Lhunardawen

07-14-2011, 07:50 PM

I am also impatient to see this co-post that keeps being spoken about, between Elempi, Lhuna, and now you! It is a million pages long by now, or are you all just taking your time about writing it?
:o No, it is not long. We've just been busy with other things so not much time has been devoted to writing it. But it's coming. :)

littlemanpoet

07-14-2011, 08:14 PM

Eodwine will soon assure everyone that what he has done is best, and he will restore order, if order must be restored. :D I got a kick out of this. Durelin, you could really have Coen catch Thornden in his words here if you wanted to.... ;)

Actually, "fealty" as such may not be an appropriate concept for the Eorling setting. It automatically means feudal law and relationships. It would be more appropriate to simply say that Eodwine swore an oath of loyalty.

Folwren

07-14-2011, 08:32 PM

Ack. Not fair to take advantage of dialogue written by a sleep-deprived camp-person.

What's so wrong with what he said, anyway?

-- Foley

Folwren

07-14-2011, 08:45 PM

Firefoot, that post was amazing! Your talk among the men was so realistic it made me mad. ;)

I decided Thornden wouldn't sit nearby and let them talk about Saeryn like that, so please work this in between these two paragraphs of your post somehow:

“Hold your tongue,” Thornden said severely. His eyes clapped onto the last soldier who had spoken. “If you cannot speak respectfully of Lady Saeryn, then don’t speak at all.” He glanced about the table, taking them all in. “Another word in a similar thought, and I’ll see the man outside.” After a pause, he turned again to Coenred and they took up their conversation once more.

“Enjoy it better if you weren’t sick,” someone chimed in, and the laughter rose louder. Léof felt distinctly uncomfortable hearing the Lady Saeryn discussed this way, and he wished he had a way of turning the conversation back to Eodwine. Fortunately, someone else did it for him.

“What I’d like to know is, why didn’t Lord Athanar formally accept Eodwine’s pledge? He said they had many things to discuss. That sounds to me like it’s not really over.”

littlemanpoet

07-15-2011, 03:54 AM

Ack. Not fair to take advantage of dialogue written by a sleep-deprived camp-person.

What's so wrong with what he said, anyway?

-- FoleyNothing SO wrong. .... it's just not Eodwine's place to be restoring order - that's the eorl's responsibility.

Lhunardawen

07-15-2011, 08:27 AM

Elempi, do you mind attaching our co-post (with Lommy) before your post for Rowenna? :)

Firefoot

07-15-2011, 08:50 AM

Folwren - paragraph inserted. I like the flow of the post a lot better now - it was really missing that.

I also switched out the word "fealty" for "loyalty."

littlemanpoet

07-15-2011, 10:13 AM

Elempi, do you mind attaching our co-post (with Lommy) before your post for Rowenna? :)

Done. :) Okay, I guess it did get a wee bit long.... :p

Working many hours - will see about a post for Rowenna some time today yet.

Lhunardawen

07-15-2011, 11:04 AM

Done. :) Okay, I guess it did get a wee bit long.... :pHaha, you're right. And at that rate you even left out the last part where Eodwine replies to Modtryth. ;)

Nogrod

07-15-2011, 05:46 PM

it's just not Eodwine's place to be restoring order - that's the eorl's responsibility.Let's see if he hears about it... and when? He's busy with the planning right now as the winter is coming / upon them - and they need to do everything they can when they still can: if there is a cold season coming for good they need to be prepared and many a works are still undone. Expect the craftsmen being called to him - well at least Stigend and Garstan - if someone wishes to bring the smiths to a meeting, feel free to say so. I'll try to make up a post on the issue during the weekend and it would be nice to have company with it.

Folwren

07-15-2011, 07:31 PM

Hopefully there will be no order to restore. Thornden was just sayin' 'what if'. I don't even think we'll have to worry about it. I guess we'll find out when Dury gets back.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-16-2011, 07:09 AM

Haha, you're right. And at that rate you even left out the last part where Eodwine replies to Modtryth. ;)
Oops. Fixed.

Sorry for not posting last night. RL suddenly became very important.

littlemanpoet

07-16-2011, 06:17 PM

I've posted for Rowenna and Eodwine. Next posting opportunities fall to Foley and Lhuna respectively. :)

Folwren

07-17-2011, 07:51 AM

Elempi,

If you would like, you can go ahead and have Saeryn tell Rowenna what has happened, if that will help you further your post. In my post, I considered just going over it very briefly, in a couple of sentences, saying Saeryn told Rowenna what the problem was. If you want to go ahead and have her do that so that Rowenna can more fully answer her, that's fine.

-- Foley

Lhunardawen

07-17-2011, 02:13 PM

Elempi, I have taken quite a few liberties with Eodwine's actions in my post. Feel free to slap my writing hand (lightly please) and make corrections.

littlemanpoet

07-17-2011, 02:32 PM

Not in the least, Lhuna. He's very much in character. Nicely done.

Folwren

07-17-2011, 08:28 PM

The post I just posted is a co-post between Elempi and I. :)

littlemanpoet

07-18-2011, 09:54 AM

Back to you Foley. :)

littlemanpoet

07-19-2011, 06:54 PM

Now we need someone to take up the thoughts of Athanar's group. Oh, I suppose Quin could do that now that the cat's out of the bag. Poor Léof. :D

I have three posts to write. :eek: But not tonight. Bed time soon since I'm working at least 10 hrs a day. Sorry.

Durelin

07-20-2011, 11:51 AM

I got a kick out of this. Durelin, you could really have Coen catch Thornden in his words here if you wanted to....

Yea Coen reacted quite strongly when I read that haha... There still opportunity to respond? I know I've been gone a bit... If so I'll try to asap, running off a few hours sleep atm...

Folwren

07-20-2011, 01:08 PM

Yes, there is still time to respond. Thornden and Coenred have not gone anywhere and there are still men talking around the breakfast table.

I look forward to your response.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-20-2011, 05:16 PM

Well, I wasn't sure if I could bring Rowenna round to supporting Saeryn's view on this, ambition or no ambition. Turns out Rowenna's calculating nature may be getting the best of them both. :eek: I hope you're happy, Foley. ;)

Folwren

07-20-2011, 09:33 PM

I really regret holding people up, but I may not be able to post until tomorrow evening. There is a slight possibility I can post within the next thirty minutes, but if that does not happen, don't expect a response for another twenty-four hours or thereabouts. So sorry.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-21-2011, 09:44 AM

Folwren

07-21-2011, 05:58 PM

Hey, Firefoot...I kind of feel bad about having Quin high-tail it out of there like that, but I didn't know what to do. I felt really bad for him and Leof, and ... I lacked inspiration. Maybe I should not have posted at all until I thought more about it....I dunno..........

It occurred to me in a healthy situation, they would have sat and talked it out, but I felt that there would be hostility there that would be better left resting. At least, that's what Quin thought. If you would like to keep other men questioning Leof, I am willing to help you play that out, taking on random NPCs like Scyrr, etc.

-- Folwren

Firefoot

07-21-2011, 07:27 PM

No worries, Folwren - I think that's great. Nothing like a bit of (un)healthy conflict. ;)

Leof probably won't really stick around either, after he realizes just how badly his comment is going over. Or maybe he'll stick it out... this is where it would be good to either have more played soldiers, or more clearly defined NPC's... maybe I'll try making a couple more up.

For reference, here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=622445&postcount=2390)'s Legate's write-up of some the NPC's he made up. Also there's Hylath. I think I made use of three more unnamed soldiers in my last post that involved a number of them.

I don't know. I'll think about it and read up on some of these soldiers and probably write something tomorrow night.

Folwren

07-21-2011, 07:56 PM

That sounds great, Firefoot. I like conflict. :D I figure that's probably pretty obvious.

-- Folwren

Durelin

07-22-2011, 12:20 PM

Hey Firefoot, sorry if I messed with things too much. If I need to edit let me know. But of course feel free to have some of the men stay -- Coen left right away and they might linger or those who don't really have specific duties might feel they can just stay. But I know he wouldn't want them to just keep hanging out there with the conversation going how it has been (not that he's been listening to all/most of it), so he had to say something.

Firefoot

07-22-2011, 06:47 PM

Durelin, your post is fine. Leof's response would have gone a bit differently if Coenred hadn't intervened, but this works too. Instead of getting it all out there, the bad feelings can just simmer for a bit...

littlemanpoet

07-23-2011, 09:41 AM

Firefoot, another amazing piece of writing. I'd rep you but I have to spread it around. :rolleyes:

littlemanpoet

07-23-2011, 08:40 PM

Firefoot, where would Scyld go to work when Coenred gives the order to vacate the Hall?

Foley, where would Quin go?

Folwren

07-23-2011, 09:32 PM

I think he's going to see if there's any manual labor he can do - is there any building going on that day? I think he'll pitch in with that.

-- Foley

Firefoot

07-23-2011, 10:02 PM

Thanks, Elempi.

Scyld would probably also go help out somewhere. I don't really have a good feel for what the day-to-day activities are for the men of the hall, and I'm really not sure what Scyld's going to be doing once the new hall is completed... he doesn't really have a trade.

littlemanpoet

07-24-2011, 12:22 PM

Thanks for your replies. My original thought was that Rowenna might go and find a couple of these men to talk, but I think her approach is going to be more subtle, having to do with meal times and the evening when labors give way to less strenuous and more enjoyable pastimes.

Folwren

07-24-2011, 09:38 PM

I'd like to put out there, for those of you who've read the post already, that I just edited my last post a little, adding something that Elempi wrote and then replying to it.

-- Foley

Folwren

07-24-2011, 09:57 PM

Question for Nogrod: Is Athanar going to talk to Eodwine soon, and is he going to tell him what Saeryn said in the hallway?

Firefoot

07-25-2011, 07:06 PM

Folwren, sorry if it seems like Leof's going in circles... I just realized I left this post in much the same place as the last one. But maybe there's something new in there for Thornden to respond to.

Folwren

07-25-2011, 07:49 PM

No worries, there is. Leof needs to work some stuff out, that's all. :)

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet

07-27-2011, 09:55 AM

I expect to have a chance at some point to post for either Rowenna or Eodwine - Rowenna if Lhuna has no chance to write for Ginna beween now and then.

Lhunardawen

07-27-2011, 10:26 AM

littlemanpoet

07-27-2011, 05:46 PM

Lhuna has been drowning in drugs and will continue to be for the next few days. Anyway, last I looked I thought Eodwine had been called away, or was I just imagining things? I'll get a post up as soon as I can.
Nope, he's still waiting for Ginna to respond. He's getting talked about a lot, but that's it. :p

Nogrod

07-27-2011, 06:11 PM

Question for Nogrod: Is Athanar going to talk to Eodwine soon, and is he going to tell him what Saeryn said in the hallway?Game-terms: he's not in a rush to do that; he has other worries (the coming winter and the preparations for it) + he thinks Eodwine should have time to settle down himself meeting all his friends etc. without him disturbing it. They'd have time to discuss later...

RL-terms: Squatter, Oddwen, Estelyn, Hookbill, Pitchwife, Shasta, Rikae, Macalaure, Kath & Skip are coming to visit us from Saturday onwards so I have little or no possibility of posting in the near future.

The Mead Hall: We'll have a big banquet in the evening (Athanar would have called for that as soon as he heard Eodwine is coming back) so anything preceeding that should be done now - as I see you're admirably doing. And don't hurry... the reunions are an important part of this story I think.

And I still hope to steal time to post for Stigend and Garstan to approach Eodwine as well.

Dury, Firefoot & Lhuna: so great to see you back onboard! Just love it!

Folwren

07-27-2011, 08:56 PM

You're having a regular party at your place come Saturday, aren't you? :D Hope ya'll have fun.

Your plans sound good regarding the Mead Hall.

I have a quiz for you all...is there a guard named Osmond at the Hall?

-- Foley

Firefoot

07-28-2011, 08:35 AM

Osmund, not Osmond. A quick search shows that he's in his young twenties, has a good sense of humor and a bit of a temper, and likes to flirt. He has a friend (another soldier) named Aethelstan, and he was pretty quick to make friends with Athanar's soldiers.

In case it's useful for anyone else, I used the forum archive (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/archive/index.php?t-14745.html)... it's a lot quicker to search through the five pages of that than the 20ish pages of the Meadhall thread.

edit: more like 30ish. Even better.

Folwren

07-28-2011, 12:41 PM

Thanks, Firefoot. I thought I remembered something along those lines.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-30-2011, 08:36 AM

Hmm... seems I'm not getting email notification despite my personal settings. A little has happened and I didn't know. I'll catch up.

Folwren

07-31-2011, 03:25 PM

The internet is fried at my house and at my parents'. I got on today at my brother's house in the hopes to post, but I can't think of anything, Elempi, so I'm really sorry to leave you hanging still.

-- Foley

Folwren

08-01-2011, 08:10 PM

Hey, imp, are you trying to start a cat-fight between these two ladies?

May post tomorrow, I dunno. Internet access is still spotty.

-- Folwren

Firefoot

08-01-2011, 10:40 PM

Nogrod, when you get around to posting (no rush :) ), Leof's sending himself Athanar's way.

littlemanpoet

08-03-2011, 02:44 PM

Hey, imp, are you trying to start a cat-fight between these two ladies?

May post tomorrow, I dunno. Internet access is still spotty.

-- FolwrenNot necessarily. I'm trying to play Rowenna true to character. She's as convinced she's right about how to go about the kind of thing Saeryn is asking help for, as Saeryn that she is right. Nice little mess we have here, eh? :D:D

Folwren

08-03-2011, 04:31 PM

Yeah, pity I can't respond. Internet still acting up and typing is a something of a pain on this particular laptop. I can't figure out how to copy and paste stuff, you can imagine how annoying that can be.

Galadriel55

08-03-2011, 04:58 PM

*sticks head in*

I can't figure out how to copy and paste stuff, you can imagine how annoying that can be.

Try pressing Control+a (for all), to highlight all the text. Then press Control+c (for copy). Go to the post-reply page thingy, click on the box to put the cursor in (or whatever you call it...), and press Control+v (to paste it).

*ducks out*

Folwren

08-03-2011, 05:31 PM

*sticks head in*

Try pressing Control+a (for all), to highlight all the text. Then press Control+c (for copy). Go to the post-reply page thingy, click on the box to put the cursor in (or whatever you call it...), and press Control+v (to paste it).

*ducks out*

That's all very well and good for Microsoft Windows computer, but I'm on an Apple, and those commands don't work at all.

I was rather hoping you were arriving here to say you were joining our game. You may find you like it better than the WW stuff. I do.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

08-03-2011, 05:40 PM

*ducks back in*

That's all very well and good for Microsoft Windows computer, but I'm on an Apple, and those commands don't work at all.

I was rather hoping you were arriving here to say you were joining our game. You may find you like it better than the WW stuff. I do.

-- Folwren

On Apples its some different button instead of Ctrl. Maybe Command. Or one of those on the bottom corners of the keyboard. I haven't been on an Apple for over a year, so I don't remember...

I like the game, and I am reading it. It would be an honour to join, though I don't think I'm quite that level yet. And that reminds me - I have characters in 3 other RPGs that are getting dusty...

*ducks back out again*

Folwren

08-05-2011, 04:03 PM

I posted! Finally! Sorry it took forever - computer troubles, really. I disliked working in that Apple laptop and waited until I was on a desktop/tower computer.

-- Foley

Folwren

08-07-2011, 07:41 PM

I edited something into the end of my last post, Elempi, after copying and pasting your little line from Rowenna.

I feel like we're going in circles with this conversation. Is there anything we can do about that?

-- Foley

Finduilas

08-10-2011, 11:45 AM

Hello all! I am wanting to join the Meadhall in the near future, but as I have not yet finished my character bios I thought I'd introduce myself now, while I continue developing my characters. :)

So, hi, I'm Finduilas. I'm planning on bringing in three characters: a family, with the father/husband as a NPC, and I will take both the mother/wife, and the daughter. I will do my best to get the character bios up in a day or two.

I've done a limited amount of RPGing in the past (several years in the past) so I'm rather a newbie to this.

Firefoot

08-10-2011, 12:50 PM

Welcome, Finduilas! Can't wait to see you character bios. :)

littlemanpoet

08-10-2011, 03:13 PM

Foley, sorry but I must ask you to add yet another line to your previous post.

"First," said Rowenna, "I think you must make peace with him about what happened between you in the Hall, and then persuade him."

littlemanpoet

08-14-2011, 05:44 PM

Posted for Eodwine, Harreld, Falco, and Garreth - with a short aside to Thornden in the middle of it - you'll have to find it and deal with it at your leisure - should you have any non-WW type of leisure in the next little while.... ;)

A thousand pardons if my writing diction seems a little different for said post - just got done reading a Jane Austen novel and I'm afraid it shows a wee bit.... :p

Folwren

08-14-2011, 08:16 PM

The post I just posted is a co-post written by me and Elempi.

-- Foley

Lhunardawen

08-17-2011, 10:12 AM

Elempi, I don't need to tell you I'm very much looking forward to the rest of that conversation. Can't wait to see Eodwine talk his way through all that stubbornness. :D

*goes back to studying*

Folwren

08-17-2011, 11:56 AM

Me, too. It seems to me Eodwine has a lot of stubbornness to wade throgh today.

littlemanpoet

08-17-2011, 06:48 PM

Indeed, to both of you, Foley & Lhuna. ;) But I don't like to double post so somebody needs to write something so I can again.

Folwren

08-17-2011, 06:52 PM

Oh! Why you! It's a bribe, or at least a threat! Sneaky, sneaky.

-- Folwren

Folwren

08-20-2011, 11:35 AM

littlemanpoet

08-20-2011, 01:51 PM

Woah, Elempi, you double posted. I really did mean to post. I honestly haven't been writing unless forced recently, because I don't have that much sit-down time. I maybe can post later this afternoon, though.

-- FolwrenWell, a 3 day wait was long enough. It's Saturday, I actually have more time ... and we'll have to see about Garreth's new "issues".

Folwren

08-20-2011, 02:32 PM

Yeah, I know, I feel bad about the three day wait. :o

littlemanpoet

08-20-2011, 03:50 PM

You should. You're a bad bad person. And you're a bad bad co-rpg writer. :D You owe me bunches of posts. :p

Lhunardawen

08-20-2011, 08:06 PM

I thought I could feel some frustration seeping out from the monitor as I read that second post... :p

I love it, Elempi. Eodwine, you rock.

littlemanpoet

08-21-2011, 07:32 AM

I thought I could feel some frustration seeping out from the monitor as I read that second post... :p

I love it, Elempi. Eodwine, you rock.Thanks, Lhuna. Eodwine thanks you, too. ;) Whose frustration, if I may ask, was doing the seeping?

Folwren

08-21-2011, 08:01 AM

You should. You're a bad bad person. And you're a bad bad co-rpg writer. :D You owe me bunches of posts. :p

Bunches of posts? What bunches of posts would that be?

Thanks, Lhuna. Eodwine thanks you, too. Whose frustration, if I may ask, was doing the seeping?

Garreth's. He needs some girl to come knock him over the head for dissing their entire sex so thoroughly. Not really, but he sure is embittered towards them.

Folwren

08-21-2011, 09:05 AM

The problem is, I don't know what to post. Anybody want to interract with any of my characters?

littlemanpoet

08-21-2011, 01:10 PM

Bunches of posts? What bunches of posts would that be?
Just one, really. :D
The problem is, I don't know what to post. Anybody want to interract with any of my characters?
Hmm.... I am detecting a sort of apartheid of the sexes at Scarburg, or else the men and women characters would be interacting more readily. How did this happen?

Folwren

08-21-2011, 08:45 PM

Hmm.... I am detecting a sort of apartheid of the sexes at Scarburg, or else the men and women characters would be interacting more readily. How did this happen?

what do you mean?

littlemanpoet

08-22-2011, 04:02 AM

what do you mean?

I mean that Eodwine and Thornden are the only two male characters that have had anything to say/do with the female characters in the last who knows how many posts. There used to be a lot of interaction between male and female characters - now it's rare.

Lhunardawen

08-22-2011, 08:42 AM

Thanks, Lhuna. Eodwine thanks you, too. Me? What does he have to thank me for?

Edit: OH. Right. You're both welcome. I'm sorry, I've been a teeny bit slow on the uptake the whole day. (A doctor even grabbed me by the arms and rocked me back and forth a few times this afternoon for asking a rather stupid question. :o)

Whose frustration, if I may ask, was doing the seeping?
Yours. :p I could imagine you thinking as you posted, "I can't believe these writers have let me down and allowed me to double post." :D

Hmm.... I am detecting a sort of apartheid of the sexes at Scarburg, or else the men and women characters would be interacting more readily. How did this happen?
Actually... I don't know why, but I think Ginna wants to talk to Garreth. I swear, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what goes on in the mind of that crazy woman.

Edit: Ginna wants to clarify. She doesn't really want to talk talk, but she thinks it would be interesting if they had a chance encounter and got to talk to each other a bit.

littlemanpoet

08-22-2011, 09:55 AM

I could imagine you thinking as you posted, "I can't believe these writers have let me down and allowed me to double post." Ohhhhh, I can imagine it all right. :rolleyes: :D

Actually... I don't know why, but I think Ginna wants to talk to Garreth. I swear, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what goes on in the mind of that crazy woman.

Edit: Ginna wants to clarify. She doesn't really want to talk talk, but she thinks it would be interesting if they had a chance encounter and got to talk to each other a bit.Elempi would like that. :)

Folwren

08-22-2011, 12:07 PM

Elempi would like that. :)

You two should definitely do that. It'd be fun.

Gwathagor

08-23-2011, 07:08 PM

LMP, this is from your last post:

"Hear hear!" said Frodo, raising his pipe as if it were a pint of mead.

Does anyone else see the problem here?

littlemanpoet

08-23-2011, 07:10 PM

And to think I reread that post, too! Oops. I'll fix. Wow. Gotta be really careful when reading BD posts via email - I actually unsubscribed by accident. Shee!

Fixed. And to think that I was even picturing Falco when I wrote "Frodo"! :eek:

Gwathagor

08-23-2011, 07:13 PM

Two out of four letters isn't bad, really.

littlemanpoet

08-24-2011, 02:33 AM

Two out of four letters isn't bad, really.
Hee hee!

Good to see you back in it, Gwath. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-24-2011, 02:35 AM

Whoa, I see people have indeed been busy. I see I need to catch up with what has been happening... but nonetheless, I am saying this just to mark that I should be able to participate again, so just as soon as I catch up with the situation, I can join the fray... (unless somebody wanted to give me a short short version so that I know what's going on right now, but I think I'll want to read stuff by myself anyway)

But it's nice that - it seems to me - several people who haven't been around for a while have returned here as well, that's great! (Hi there, Gwath, Lhuna!)

Folwren

08-24-2011, 07:47 AM

Wow, Gwathagor! You're back. :D I'm glad to see you've returned.

Hi, Legate, I'm excited to see you back in the writing mood again. I could tell you what has transpired, but I'm not sure where you left. I'll look into that and then let you know, if I have any computer time today.

Elempi, I'm aware you told my sister last night or something that I still owe you a post....sorry...still haven't got any ideas about what to write. :(

And I didn't notice that Frodo made an unexpected appearance in Scarburg. That could've been fun.

-- Folwren

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-24-2011, 08:06 AM

Hi, Legate, I'm excited to see you back in the writing mood again. I could tell you what has transpired, but I'm not sure where you left. I'll look into that and then let you know, if I have any computer time today.

That's very kind of you, but you don't have to, Foley :) I basically need to catch up with everything since Eodwine and Saeryn met when he was arriving, but I am starting with it just now... let's see how much I manage in one reading... so more like, I might be interested if there are any hidden agendas brewing in the background, something that won't be apparent from the game thread itself...

Firefoot

08-24-2011, 08:44 AM

I need to get Scyld back into action as well... time for him to go stir something up with someone, I guess. Anyone interested?

littlemanpoet

08-24-2011, 09:45 AM

I can see Crabannan and Garreth developing a gruff amicability...
I need to get Scyld back into action as well... time for him to go stir something up with someone, I guess. Anyone interested?
I s'pose there's always Rowenna, but we may want to save that for later.

Gwathagor

08-24-2011, 09:50 AM

I can see Crabannan and Garreth developing a gruff amicability...

Yeah, I could see that.

Also, conflict! More conflict!

Gwathagor

08-24-2011, 10:13 AM

let's see how much I manage in one reading... so more like, I might be interested if there are any hidden agendas brewing in the background, something that won't be apparent from the game thread itself...

Crabannan may have deserted from the Rohirrim (under what circumstances, I can't recall) and he also seems to think he recognizes Hilderinc from that period.

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-24-2011, 04:37 PM

I need to get Scyld back into action as well... time for him to go stir something up with someone, I guess. Anyone interested?
If there's nobody better, Hilderinc could possibly serve that purpose as well. Maybe also him being the quieter type, Scyld won't be as much afraid of exposing himself, as he seems to with most people (to be honest, I don't have much of a clear picture of Scyld's character, but then I think I got the main point and anyway, maybe I don't need to know more than my characters do. Or if I do, I can always be informed by you or something).

That said, I am still only a bit more than halfway through of what had happened since Eodwine's arrival, but it seems to be very entertatining this far :) And unless there comes something totally groundbreaking in the last couple of posts, I think Hilderinc will be ready to face anybody approaching him or whatever. (And if nobody wants to approach him after all, then I will probably post for him myself anyway, after I finish reading the rest of the posts, hopefully by tomorrow.)

Crabannan may have deserted from the Rohirrim (under what circumstances, I can't recall) and he also seems to think he recognizes Hilderinc from that period.

Oh yes, I see. I recall Crabannan thinking some stuff about his past earlier and somesuch (Hilderinc himself considers Crabannan rather mysterious, as much as I recall, and Crabannan seemed to avoid discussion with him several times, even though it might have been just a set of coincidences). Whatever - if you ever wish to elaborate on that, though, we can just double-check that you are not "off" of Hilderinc's past timeline or such (I can brief you more about that, if need be). But it's no big matter, I assume. And of course in case of conflict of data we can always say that memory is faulty, or that it wasn't Hilderinc at all whom Crabannan remembers.

Actually, my question was not exactly aimed at this, really, as I posted it before I have read the thread, it was more like a preemptive question in case some event or clash or whatever was expected or debated in the discussion thread, yet not mentioned on the game thread itself (as I am not really planning to go through all the discussion posts I've missed) - just so that I won't be surprised if something important happened.

Gwathagor

08-24-2011, 04:46 PM

Yeah, I don't know whether or not it will turn into anything. But there it is.

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-24-2011, 05:00 PM

Yeah, I don't know whether or not it will turn into anything. But there it is.

Yes, that's what it more or less seemed to me as well. So whether, whenever, it's all up to you.

I'm still rather amused at the dramas taking place in Scarburg as I read the thread, getting just better and better :) I pity I haven't been present when it all was happening.

Firefoot

08-25-2011, 09:14 AM

Legate - here's a rundown on Scyld for you:

I originally created him for an RPG called Abduction in Edoras (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=12824), which was a side-RPG to the original Eorling Meadhall thread in which one of the Meadhall characters, Linduial, was abducted because of her status as Gondorian nobility. Her abductor was a man named Sorn, who was the original landholder of the Scarburg lands. Scyld was a lackey of his, you might say - sort of a jack-of-all-trades servingman, and one of Linduial's jailors.

Scyld had a tough life - his father basically sold him to Sorn because of debt, and Sorn wasn't a terribly nice person. Understandably, he had (has) some trust issues and a fairly large collection of unsavory skills, but Linduial won him over enough that Scyld ended up helping her escape. Although she promised him pardon for his role in her kidnapping, he didn't trust the Rohan authorities enough to go with her.

But when he found out that the Eorl's seat was moving from Edoras to the newly-named Scarburg, his curiosity got the best of him to find out just what these people were like that Linduial was so fond of. So he took on an assumed name (since he didn't know if Linduial may have mentioned him at some point) and has been living at Scarburg for... five months maybe? He arrived shortly after the hall moved to Scarburg.

So you can see why he'd be pretty reluctant to let his true identity be known, being a fugitive and all that. ;) Hope this helps.

I'm not sure what work still needs doing at the hall, but maybe Scyld and one or more of the other characters looking for interaction (Hilderinc, Quin, Crabannan) could get involved in the same task?

Folwren

08-25-2011, 11:53 AM

I'm not sure what work still needs doing at the hall, but maybe Scyld and one or more of the other characters looking for interaction (Hilderinc, Quin, Crabannan) could get involved in the same task?

Good thought. I had an idea that we might write some about some building project going on, but I didn't know what stuff of interest would happen there.

-- Folwren

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-26-2011, 04:12 AM

Thanks for the info on Scyld, Firefoot! :) That was very helpful. And so now I assume everyone knows him only as this "Nydfara", right?

And as for the idea of making people interact during some task, I agree.

Good thought. I had an idea that we might write some about some building project going on, but I didn't know what stuff of interest would happen there.

-- Folwren

Didn't somebody just mention (as I was reading through the thread, this "just" could mean more than a month ago, but anyway) that there isn't a place for the sheep in Scarburg? Maybe that's something that could be done (especially with winter coming).

Firefoot

08-26-2011, 07:50 AM

Yep, Scyld's only known as Nydfara.

A sheep shelter sounds good to me. I'll try to work on a post later on today.

Firefoot

08-27-2011, 09:23 AM

Post up. :) Scyld's directly addressed Quin, but, Legate, feel free to interrupt...

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-29-2011, 02:07 PM

Since Foley hadn't posted, I "chimed in". Anybody can pick up on where I left the conversation (be it Quin, or Scyld again, or whatever... I think I have left something to which people can react).

Folwren

08-29-2011, 02:32 PM

Thanks, Legate. I'm glad you posted. I've been too busy to write much. :) I hope that now, in the next 30 minutes before class starts, I can write a post.

-- Foley

Folwren

08-29-2011, 02:44 PM

Eodwine, I put some words in Rowenna's mouth. Let me know if I should change anything.

Almost class time, I must run. I'll post for Quin later, either tonight or tomorrow, hopefully.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet

08-29-2011, 04:21 PM

Eodwine, I put some words in Rowenna's mouth. Let me know if I should change anything.I am LMP or Elempi, Foley. ;)

Funny post. :D I'll wait a while before I write one to follow it. I need the time to think through how Eodwine would perceive her strange behavior.

Legate of Amon Lanc

08-29-2011, 05:03 PM

I am LMP or Elempi, Foley. ;)

Didn't this happen before, actually? Wasn't it even Folwren who did that? ;)

littlemanpoet

08-31-2011, 09:52 AM

Your turn Saeryn. ;)

Yes, that's on purpose. :D

Folwren

09-01-2011, 12:50 PM

And she had better not insist that we talk right here, he thought.

Okay, so what's really funny about this line is that when I first read the post, I didn't see this part, but my first thought was, "Ooooh, what if she doesn't want to go and tries to make him stay and talk it out there?" So, when I got back on today and checked the post again and I saw the last line, I said to myself, "Did he edit that in after reading my mind?"

Anyway...post comin' up.

-- Foley

Folwren

09-01-2011, 03:13 PM

Your turn Saeryn. ;)

Yes, that's on purpose.

And I didn't even notice until the third or fourth time reading it. :rolleyes:

Okay, I posted. I won't bother to apologize about it being rough and all because you'll just say "It's fine", but I think it's lame. Anyway, the important thing is that she said what I wanted her to say. Eodwine sure does know his wife. :eek:

Elempi, if you respond tonight or tomorrow morning, I should be able to post before too late tomorrow afternoon, but this weekend my internet will be spotty.

-- Folwren

P.S. I want to add, in case you're wondering and thinking about it: as the writer, I personally do not want them to stick around with Rowenna. I'd much rather write it between Eodwine and Saeryn alone. I just wrote what I did because that's most like Saeryn........So I guess that means you'll have to write what's most like Eodwine. Never mind.

littlemanpoet

09-01-2011, 07:43 PM

Exactly who is this Quin fellow? Seems to me he's channeling Thornden. ;)

There's no rush. I need to think about how Eodwine would react to that. Kind of funny how Saeryn's lumping her husband in with men. :D

Firefoot

09-02-2011, 08:38 AM

I love that the story is picking up steam again. Nice writing, everybody. :)

Folwren

09-02-2011, 09:28 AM

Firefoot - I would rep you on your last post if I could. That was hilarious.

Elempi, I'll see if I can get a post up before leaving this afternoon.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet

09-02-2011, 09:50 AM

Folwren

09-02-2011, 10:36 AM

I must say, I can really appreciate Léof's perspective on this little Mead-Hall situation. :D Apparently, Saeryn doesn't understand that her husband is not the type to force his will on her. We shall see how this goes, eh? :D

I think she knows that for real, but right now she doesn't see it. As I was writing my last post, I wanted to find a way to say somehow that she's unwittingly comparing him to other men she's dealt with - her brother, Athanar, the landlords - who are much more likely to force their wills on her than Eodwine. However, that was impossible because she wouldn't see it for herself, so I couldn't write it as part of her reflections or thoughts.

So now you know what at least I am thinking. :)

-- Folwren

Legate of Amon Lanc

09-02-2011, 05:02 PM

Gwath, that was a nice bit of spice to indeed "stir" the dialogue (the word "kick" would have been better). My initial reaction was that Hilderinc would probably hit Crabannan with something :)

I think anybody can pick up on that... on anything that's happened, anyway... I think the people can't be oblivious to such outbursts from two people in a row at least inside their heads :)

Gwathagor

09-02-2011, 05:05 PM

I've always had a bit of difficulty finding things for Crabannan to do, since he's such an outsider. May as well throw him into arguments with angry men with axes.

Legate of Amon Lanc

09-02-2011, 05:08 PM

I've always had a bit of difficulty finding things for Crabannan to do, since he's such an outsider. May as well throw him into arguments with angry men with axes.

Well, if there isn't anything better? I mean, I had a similar problem in some way, Hilderinc is also by design a quiet character. But he has certain tasks to do, which forces him to interact with people, and so he does. I think it works quite well that way.

Gwathagor

09-02-2011, 05:11 PM

Legate of Amon Lanc

09-02-2011, 05:38 PM

Good point. That's the issue with Crabannan: he has literally nothing to do. Also, he has no friends and very few ideals, and with nothing to care about, it's difficult to find motivation for him to engage in conflict - which is what story is all about, in the end.

Yes... but I think you might be able to find something for him, some "hobby", or let him stumble upon something and get tangled into some problem he might not even want to be part of. Or let him be "dragged into" something by others. If you let him involve in a dialogue or two - let's say with a character who keeps talking to him or asking him about something - he will have to react (if only by responding). And then he might form his opinions on somebody, and he can e.g. start liking or hating some character(s) and then he can start reacting or react more strongly whenever they are around... So other players can help you a lot with making him a more active person, if you want it, I am sure.

Gwathagor

09-02-2011, 05:57 PM

That's exactly right.

Folwren

09-03-2011, 10:39 PM

I edited my last post to incorporate some stuff Elempi asked me to add.

-- Folwren

piosenniel

09-06-2011, 03:19 PM

Just a reminder:

Please remember to remove signatures from all posts to the Meadhall RPG thread.

Thanks!

~*~ Pio

Gwathagor

09-06-2011, 04:27 PM

Thanks. I've been forgetting to do that.

littlemanpoet

09-08-2011, 10:09 AM

Is fun to see Scyld prodding Crabannan. :D

I've started a co-post with Foley for the Saeryn/Eodwine conversation.

Gwathagor

09-09-2011, 10:18 AM

I love the little remarks on Anglo-Saxon vs Latinate etymology, LMP. :D

Legate of Amon Lanc

09-09-2011, 10:25 AM

I love the little remarks on Anglo-Saxon vs Latinate etymology, LMP. :D

Even though he still uses the word "mixed" ;) Anyway, I think it is practically impossible to use a completely "pure Anglo-Saxon" language. After all, English contains a lot of Latin since the time of Caesar and company. But yes, there are more and less obvious words, for sure.

Gwathagor

09-09-2011, 10:27 AM

For sure.

Folwren

09-09-2011, 11:03 AM

Eodwine is back, but he'll never be eorl again...barring disaster."

When I read this, after my first initial thought (which I won't post), my second thougt was, "Oh, why do I have such evil ideas?" I hereby promise I will not try to arrange some disaster.

-- Foley

Gwathagor

09-09-2011, 11:10 AM

Anything could happen...

littlemanpoet

09-09-2011, 02:29 PM

I love the little remarks on Anglo-Saxon vs Latinate etymology, LMP. :D
Thanks. :) I have fun with it. I certainly don't mean any criticisms toward anyone else by it. It's just something I learned about and love knowing, and enjoy playing with it.
I hereby promise I will not try to arrange some disaster. :D How funny, Foley!

littlemanpoet

09-10-2011, 09:01 AM

I will be on vacation until 9/19 with no internet access. I hope to see some more on the thread when I get back. :)

Firefoot

09-11-2011, 10:06 PM

I'm not totally happy with my post for Scyld, but I wanted to keep the conversation moving. I thought about continuing it longer but realized I wasn't totally sure how the others would respond to a (somewhat inappropriate?) jest on Scyld's part, so I let it hang... if it's too difficult a hook to work with I can add more in.

Folwren

09-18-2011, 07:59 PM

I'm back from the weekend retreat thing I went to. What needs to happen next to get something rolling again?

Legate of Amon Lanc

09-19-2011, 03:10 AM

I'm back from the weekend retreat thing I went to. What needs to happen next to get something rolling again?

I hope the only thing that needs to be done is to gather people up again :) I have been busy with a lot of exams, but now I am free again. I will look into the stuff... I don't know if we wish to make the chat of the men during the building process any longer, or if we want to move one with stuff? Maybe we could also kick the events a bit with some, hmm, "action". Like, something slightly dynamic. I will think about it.

littlemanpoet

09-19-2011, 02:54 PM

There needs to be some kind of reply to Javan from one of the men working.

Other than that, I'm ready for a change in time of day.

Folwren

09-19-2011, 04:32 PM

I hope the only thing that needs to be done is to gather people up again :) I have been busy with a lot of exams, but now I am free again. I will look into the stuff... I don't know if we wish to make the chat of the men during the building process any longer, or if we want to move one with stuff? Maybe we could also kick the events a bit with some, hmm, "action". Like, something slightly dynamic. I will think about it.

How dynamic do you mean? Nothing as dynamic as a 'disaster', like Crabannan suggested (or was it Scyld?), I hope. I don't really want Athanar to go.

btw, Lhuna and Elempi, is Randver going to send another letter now that Eodwine has come back?

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet

09-19-2011, 07:44 PM

btw, Lhuna and Elempi, is Randver going to send another letter now that Eodwine has come back? I hadn't thought about it. Randver doesn't know Eodwine's back. Why would Randver send another letter? Would he maybe just show up? I don't know, just thinking "out loud"... :confused:

Firefoot

09-19-2011, 09:05 PM

I'd be down with finishing up the conversation at the sheep pen and then moving time forward a bit.

Folwren

09-20-2011, 07:51 PM

Good post, Firefoot. I'm good with how that ended, it seemed to wrap it up pretty well.

So, where do we want to launch forward to?

-- Folwren

Firefoot

09-20-2011, 08:55 PM

I know there was supposed to be a feast to celebrate Eodwine's returning - do we want to do anything with that?

I for one am looking forward to some Scyld/Rowenna interaction - I don't want to jump too far ahead without that... Elempi? Thoughts?

As a side note, I sent a pm to Nogrod about two weeks ago and he never responded, and it's been a month since he posted on the Downs... kind of unfortunate, since Athanar was sort of centrally featured in all this drama. I guess I'll go forth with Leof as if he had his conversation with Athanar and it went well.

littlemanpoet

09-21-2011, 10:01 AM

That was a hilarious post, Firefoot! Loved it. :)

As to Scyld/Rowenna, that would be great. Mid-day meal may be one way. On the other hand, she has no real duties as of yet, it being her first day back. I'll think about this. I am a bit busy for the next two days, so I won't post until Friday and the earliest.

Lhunardawen

09-21-2011, 11:16 AM

btw, Lhuna and Elempi, is Randver going to send another letter now that Eodwine has come back?

Rand has no reason to, from his perspective. He has nothing more to say on the matter of Ginna's romantic pursuits, and he is unaware that his letter had caused chaos. He does have a good reason to drop by, though. Unfortunately, his writer is about to start a toxic month-long rotation (oh, make that two) and most likely would hardly have any time to write. But in case you really need her for some reason, you know how to reach her. ;)

Folwren

09-23-2011, 07:52 AM

I jumped time forward to the evening for the feast.

About the letter, I remember talking about Rand hearing about Eodwine's return, so once he knows for certain that Saeryn isn't going to try to get Thornden (or however you want to look at it), he might try to suggest to Thornden to marry Ginna.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

09-25-2011, 11:09 AM

I want to do a post featuring Rowenna and Aldric, but I don't know anything about Aldric except for what's been written about him lately. Any help would be great. :)

Firefoot

09-25-2011, 11:52 AM

The previous scene that I referenced with Aldric was this one, where Eodwine was being discussed: “He has had a long journey,” chided another soldier. “Besides, now he’s got that pretty young wife of his to care for him. I’d get sick too if I could get in on some of that.” A round of laughter followed this comment.

“Enjoy it better if you weren’t sick,” someone chimed in, and the laughter rose louder. He could be either of those two soldiers. I'm imagining him as the sort who thinks himself quite the ladies' man, but is pretty rough around the edges (especially when he's only in the company of other soldiers/men). Basically... he really likes women, and he's not afraid to risk rejection. He's also not real particular, but the prettier the better.

There's a lot of room for you to work with, Elempi - he's not very developed at all and I just created him for the sake of having someone to bounce dialog off of. Have fun. :) ;)

Also, Folwren, I think that what Leof does now is going to be dependent a bit on what Quin's up to. If Leof thinks that Quin is going to feel at all uncomfortable being around him because of their earlier conversation, he'll sit somewhere else. Let the awkwardness ensue...

Folwren

09-25-2011, 12:07 PM

Aw! I hope Leof doesn't think Quin's being stand-off-ish! I like Quin's and Leof's seeming friendship. I think maybe I'll post. We could make this very uncomfortable for no reason whatsoever...kind of like the play 'Much Ado About Nothing.' Haha.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

09-25-2011, 01:14 PM

Thanks for the help, Firefoot. Rowenna :Merisu: appreciates it. ;)

Firefoot

09-25-2011, 01:27 PM

Hahaha. This should be good.

littlemanpoet

09-25-2011, 07:27 PM

Firefoot, I'd like to set things up so that Rowenna sees from a distance that Nydfara and Aldric are talking, so that she can wonder if Nydfara put Aldric up to "coming on" to her. This would then turn to suspicion that he had, and getting angry in a hurry, she determines to confront him, which she will do as the story makes convenient (or not :D ) - what do you think?

Firefoot

09-26-2011, 10:10 AM

Elempi, that sounds perfect and very much in line with what I was thinking.

I should have posts up for both Leof and Scyld sometime today.

Nogrod

09-26-2011, 02:56 PM

Hi there good people.

I'm very sorry I haven't checked on the 'Downs for ages.

The real life hasn't been too good to me (all my personal health problems after the operation & the situation with my mom & her later life's partner) - or at times it has been too good (the Barrow-Downs moot in Finland) or just plain busy (new year at school with all the stuff from the end of last semester undone etc.). And like I think you all know, the working-field is ever more competitive, every day more so (where will this all lead to, to Chinese working hours?)

But I have not totally forgotten this one. I have just been afraid to check in to learn what I would be supposed to do while the RL has cast it's obstacles in front of me. :(

But if and when you can still go on (I see a lot of discussion of late), please do so, and if lmp wishes to get the hosting back to him - please let's arrange it thus if it helps things go forwards. I feel a wretched host right now.

I'm going to be still quite busy with the RL at least for a week or two from now so anything required of Athanar would have to wait - unless someone PM'd me a shortcut to what is going on and where he should react to in a short way; so that I could just react to make things go forwards. To that I think I could steal the time for.

If there is anything to say on my behalf for my inattentiviness, it's probably only that I have not had time to take part in any other threads either (not even ww - if there has been any of late) - and even on Facebook I have probably more action in others tagging photos of me than me really saying anything...

But I'll be back. Hopefully sooner than later.

Firefoot

09-26-2011, 03:13 PM

Thanks for the update, Nogrod. I hope things work themselves out for you. :)

littlemanpoet

09-26-2011, 05:59 PM

Nogrod, you and yours have my sympathy and prayers.

Are you resolved in regard to modding? I certainly appreciate your kind regard in offering it to me, but I hope this is not brought on only by feeling. You're in a tough spot right now. so please let us know if you think this would be truly best for the rpg. I'd appreciate it if others would speak before any decisions are made. Something like this ought to be a group decision, I think.

Firefoot, that was too funny! :D

Durelin

09-26-2011, 08:06 PM

Firefoot

09-27-2011, 10:56 AM

I think you hit on a lot of good points, Durelin.

I also think that it can be really easy for people to look around at the characters who are actively posting and say, "Well, I don't see why my character would interact with any of the available characters" and then not post (I'm guilty of this too). And it can happen for a variety of reasons: the character as created is just kind of a loner, or there's no one else available in the character's age group, or all the writers of the character's previous compadres have gone AWOL.

Rather than not posting at that point, I think what needs to happen is that we all make a greater effort to be aware of what other characters aren't busy, and make them interact for some reason. Like what we did with building the sheep pen.

As for writers who have gone missing a bit (Mnemo and Lommy were mentioned) - Mnemo has at least been around the Downs, and Lommy, I would imagine, is somewhere in the same boat as Nogrod... Can we bring people back in?

As for leadership in the hall, I'd agree with Elempi. Everyone goes through tough spots in RL and I don't think anyone on the Downs would expect you to prioritize us over that. If you want to come back, I'm perfectly happy to wait for you.

Folwren

09-27-2011, 12:25 PM

I have enjoyed Nogrod's mod-ship of the game, and I think that it wouldn't be the same if someone other than Nogrod took Athanar's character. So I, too, kind of feel we shouldn't remove him as mod and eorl-player. I think that if there are strong characters and players who are consistent (Elempi, Firefoot, Legate, and I are pretty consistent) it's not a terrible thing if Nogrod isn't ALWAYS about.

I wish we could find a way, though, that would make the new-er players who were integrated with the mod-change feel more comfortable and at home. It is really interesting to me how the occurrences in the story-line are mirrored somewhat here in RL.

Possibly we could take Durelin's suggestion and have someone temporarily take Athanar's character? Just so he can have a presence in the hall, and so forth? I feel confident that in the given scenario, with the formal feast and all, his actions will be straight forward and predictable. (Haha...that's funny..."predictable"...I can never predict Athanar.) I guess so long as no one else does anything out of the ordinary, he'll be predictable. :p

No other thoughts to offer right now.

-- Foley

Legate of Amon Lanc

09-27-2011, 02:53 PM

I've been missing writing for this but I've found it hard to do so for a while. Mostly it's just been life, but also there seems to be a disconnect between those 'native' to this thread and those not. And I don't mean that offensively; it's only natural anyway. And it hasn't been helped of course by the fact that Nogrod has been busy, and really there's not been much action from any of the characters surrounding Athanar besides Legate's Hilderinc.

Anyway, still my own fault for not posting. I would like the storyline to continue from both sides of this new Eorl thing. Though sometimes I feel like there might be too many characters and players involved to keep up with haha...(that is, when everyone's posting)

As for Nogrod being unable to post -- from an OOC point of view it doesn't really matter who's 'mod' to me! But what do you think we should do with Athanar? Should someone else play him for the time being? But then we also have Lommy and Mnemo pretty much missing? (I mean, I have been pretty much gone myself, as well, so I am definitely not complaining just wondering)

I'm not sure what direction the thread should head in I guess is what I'm saying. We've switched back in activity to having far more characters active from the 'native Scarburg/Eorling Mead Hall' characters than 'new Eorl' characters. Obviously not a bad thing, but maybe should dictate how the thread moves forward.

I'm really in no position to make any suggestions or anything, but I just wanted to post my observations.

/rambling
I agree with Dury's points raised earlier, and while I think that it's a pity that e.g. Nogrod is not posting, I would say that it is not such a big deal. I mean, this has been just some time - barely, say, a couple of months. Generally speaking, RL-busy times (or other reasons) happen, and actually rather many people of those now active have been away for a long time before. So I would not really be that concerned about that - the game can keep moving on and focus on other stuff. Sure, Athanar is a rather central character now, but as some have pointed out, it can be amended.

Indeed I have to confess that maybe I could have been a bit more active, though probably all of us could, but after all, we are here to have fun and it's not "obligatory" to post in the end (and let's face it, we are all guilty of the crime). I agree with Firefoot that the good "medicine" is to make characters involved in some get-together general tasks, like the sheep pen thing was. It is easier for the "old" characters to have separate conversations with each other, since they have old "relationship issues" and stuff, but I think another good thing to do would be possibly to somehow make the "new" characters somehow involved in that... I think the "old" characters' players could contribute here as well, though the activity from the "new" characters would be more naturally put-in (let's say a character overhearing a conversation, leading to them talking to one of the sides later on... actually, now as I am writing this, a few "evil plans" have formed in my head... let's see, I'll think about this.... ;) ). Anyway, I think if the "old" characters' discussions are being made a bit more "public", and the "new" characters get a bit more, hmm, involved, it might do the trick (I thought I could actually possibly take some of the NPC soldiers of Athanar's and make them a bit more of semi-characters of mine, as I operate them most often anyway, and they are rather more talkative than Hilderinc and thus I could use them at least as "catalysers" - I am thinking e.g. Áforglaed).

Anyway, as for the "lack of players": I don't know about e.g. Mnemo, but at least when it comes to Lommy, I know that she has had a really busy RL time now (after the summer 'Downer-moot during which she also didn't have time to post, as neither of us who participated did), and she simply had decided not to get involved on the 'Downs since it would be unmanageably time-consuming; however, I believe (and that's what she actually has told me) that she should have more time on her hands from now on, and she said that maybe in the horizont of two weeks, or a couple of weeks anyway, she might return here and catch up with Scarburg. And so, if we get Wulfric and Wilheard on the scene... with the matter of Eodwine back... I think we won't be bored. More like, Béma save us.

I have enjoyed Nogrod's mod-ship of the game, and I think that it wouldn't be the same if someone other than Nogrod took Athanar's character. So I, too, kind of feel we shouldn't remove him as mod and eorl-player. I think that if there are strong characters and players who are consistent (Elempi, Firefoot, Legate, and I are pretty consistent) it's not a terrible thing if Nogrod isn't ALWAYS about.

I wish we could find a way, though, that would make the new-er players who were integrated with the mod-change feel more comfortable and at home. It is really interesting to me how the occurrences in the story-line are mirrored somewhat here in RL.

Possibly we could take Durelin's suggestion and have someone temporarily take Athanar's character? Just so he can have a presence in the hall, and so forth? I feel confident that in the given scenario, with the formal feast and all, his actions will be straight forward and predictable. (Haha...that's funny..."predictable"...I can never predict Athanar.) I guess so long as no one else does anything out of the ordinary, he'll be predictable. :p
Depending how badly we need Athanar, of course. I mean, the inner-relationship dramas can work without him, of course. Saeryn's concerns might need Athanar, but that is a kind of thing which would probably really need Nogrod. Perhaps then, in an inventive way, we (or the players whose characters it concerns, anyway) could come up with some pressing issue (I don't necessarily mean war coming to Scarburg, it can be something related to the one or two characters in question) that would sort of push the thing into the background until Nog returns. If we have the need for an evening meal where Eodwine is supposed to be "officially welcome back/introduced to the Hall", it can be a short speech which, in the worst case, can be just mentioned in narration (as in "...then, Athanar rose up and told them all that...") in order to avoid direct speech, if we want to avoid it; or Athanar sits in the background and says "we welcome Eodwine back... my good and trusted friend of old..." then he hesitates about mentioning personally the fact that Eodwine has sworn loyalty to him, but Eodwine himself could say it, maybe? - thus the ball would be on LMP's side (that is, if Eodwine still feels the same even after his talk to Saeryn). For example. Or something like that. And then we can see.

Random remark to something that's been sort of mentioned by some above as well: I don't know how it seems to others, but *I*, for one, don't feel myself being any less interested in the thread because I am not an "original" player. From the point I actually entered the game, it started to be my game, and the only reason why e.g. I am not always around is that I had a lot more stuff on my hands in general. So let me echo Hilderinc and say that I don't think there are really any differences between "old" and "new" players in this aspect. I mean, aside from Foley, the "old" players haven't really been around consistently for a long time until Eodwine came back, either (Foley is basically the only one "fully consistent all-time poster" I know of). So that's just to say, I don't think the "problem" is really in that some people would be less interested or feeling less involved in the story as a whole. (And like I said, in fact I think there is no problem at all. It just sort of coincided that many people from the "new squad" have been busy.)

Whoops... Sorry for the novels. :)

littlemanpoet

09-28-2011, 09:49 AM

I think Legate has done a great job of suggesting a good direction for a lot of things.

Eodwine will have more to do with Athanar's men once he has settled in. It was inevitable that he would greet and make re-acquaintance with those most familiar to him. After the feast and once he has recovered more of his strength, I see Eodwine having a lot to do with the "new" players' characters.

And my smiths can already have somewhat to do with various and sundry, especially Garreth.

Firefoot

09-28-2011, 01:32 PM

littlemanpoet

09-28-2011, 04:29 PM

Elempi, are you thinking that Rowenna's going to hold off a while yet before confronting Scyld? If so, Scyld is open for interacting with other players for a while... as fun as Aldric is, it'll get dull really fast if nobody else joins in (or Scyld could excuse himself to go somewhere else if something catches his eye...).
Yeah, Rowenna will choose the time most advantageous to her. ;)

I've put Harreld and Garreth and the same table with Quin and Léof, and two unnamed others (not Scyld or Aldric, sorry). But there's room for more at the table, no doubt. And who the other two are already there, is still up for grabs.

Firefoot

09-28-2011, 04:40 PM

Hahaha, okay. Just checking.

I also put Stigend and Garstan as sitting at that table in my last post for Leof.

littlemanpoet

09-28-2011, 04:43 PM

Oops - if I had paid better attention I would have noticed that. I'll go fix that in my last post. :)

.... watch out for the prowling Rowenna .... she will pounce on Nydfara unawares and have him for din din. :D Meeeeowwwwww!

Gwathagor

09-28-2011, 05:00 PM

Yikes. :eek:

Nogrod

10-01-2011, 03:06 PM

Hi there.

And a good coincidence I happened to read this just as lmp had wrote things on Athanar.

Sadly I hadn't time enough to check all the other posts, but I'd like you lmp to make the following changes concerning lord Athanar... (just swap this into your post there in place of the original part, I suppose?)

"Men and women of Scarburg! Today we welcome Eodwine back among us." Applause followed and died away after a moment. "Eodwine has been your capable leader, but fell sick. Many of you thought that he would not live – and so did our good king. But now he stands back with us, even if in kindling health." More applause. "King Eomer has charged Eodwine to return to Scarburg to return to his wife and to give me his full support in making the Scarburg Mead Hall the great hall it should be. I thank our king for this. As soon as he has regained his health, he will take back a central role in Scarburg Mead Hall. May his health return in full quickly and let the Scarburg Mead Hall flourish, like we showed it should in dealing with the local lords opposing king's justice and all fairness as rohanites... with lord Eodwine we're even stronger! Cheers for our good lord to have come back!”

There were loud cheers from all the corners of the hall. People were excited.

“Today we celebrate his return with a feast, held in his honor. Three cheers for Eodwine, Counselor to the Eorl of Scarburg!"

The three cheers were given, each one louder than the last. And so they sat down to feast.

Okay. I can live with the term "counselor" - as I don't just now come up with any better Athanar would have used in that place.

The changes are not big ones, but ones of Athanar being a bit more verbiose person and maybe making some specially pointed utterances; like giving something for the soldiers (old and new) to celebrate as to what they achieved together - and to remind the "earlier folk" about the king's role in this whole business...

Hoping to be with you more in as near a future as possible... and coming to the more general issues as well then.

PS. lmp: I think you can see the ambivalences and hints I have written in there in my new version of what lord Athanar says. I tried to keep them open enough to any interpretations... but also letting him make some points he would like to have made on that occasion (like using it to try and bring the "old & new" even more together by applauding their joint effort with the local lords etc.).

littlemanpoet

10-01-2011, 07:42 PM

Changes happily made, Nogrod. I'm happy you can find the time to participate and hope it does not cost you too much to do so. I've used the word "Eorling" in the place of "Rohanite". Hope you don't mind.

Folwren

10-02-2011, 09:03 PM

Firefoot, Quin will not answer Garreth, so I think I'll let you post next on that.

And I will post for Saeryn sometime in the relatively near future, I think. :)

-- Foley

Firefoot

10-03-2011, 11:02 AM

Hay-filling, hay-filled newt, is it? :mad: ;)

Good stuff, Legate. :)

coolguy17

10-03-2011, 06:44 PM

Can i join???

Durelin

10-04-2011, 01:04 PM

Haha, I love Scyrr. Great writing Legate. Sorry for the 'filler' post but I didn't feel like Coen should interrupt yet, and Legate writes Scyrr so well I didn't want to move the 'argument' forward...

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-04-2011, 01:47 PM

Haha, I love Scyrr. Great writing Legate. Sorry for the 'filler' post but I didn't feel like Coen should interrupt yet, and Legate writes Scyrr so well I didn't want to move the 'argument' forward...

Well it sort of made me stop a bit, I've been actually exactly thinking just before that that maybe one good way to get Scyrr out of the way would be to make Coen come up to him and I was thinking that maybe I could ask you about it, but seems you basically beat me to it :) For further reference, in any case, feel free to interrupt at any point, if you wished to interfere.

Anyway, right now I am most curious what becomes of this :) And, of course, what Scyrr will do next (if anything) will depend on that.

Durelin

10-04-2011, 01:57 PM

If you'd like me to edit and have Coen talk to Scyrr immediately I certainly can. When I started writing the post I thought I might do that, but then it felt kind of right for Coen to wait to try to avoid embarrassing Scyrr (more than Scyrr has already embarrassed himself). He likes Scyrr, and being a sort of "man's man" for lack of better phrasing, he understands Scyrr's blustering nature and forgives him more readily for it than others. If that makes sense? Haha.

Edit: Duh! You already posted. Great post again! You carry all the NPC soldiers and make them all so real to me. Though I feel like I need to pick up the slack sometimes so you don't have to deal with them all haha.

Also, here's a new character:

Name: Tyrdda

Age/Gender/Race/Where from: Around 17 or so, Female, from Scarburg

Appearance: Light brown hair, brown eyes, just over five feet tall. She is larger framed than some women but with significant curves. She has a roundish, soft face with large, sharp eyes. She almost always keeps her hair wrapped up under a kerchief of sorts.

Personality/Bio: Tyrdda is not one to mess with. She always held her own with her elder brothers and helped take care of her younger siblings as soon as she could take care of herself. She grew up on a farm around Scarburg and served in the hall since Eodwine first arrived. She enjoys the company of the riders as well as of the other serving women. She scoffs at the gossipy women but usually listens in to their talks.

Linked ~*~ Pio (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=551131&postcount=2)

Folwren

10-04-2011, 02:32 PM

I'm excited about a new female character, Durelin! I'm glad there's so much posting in the Hall. Things are getting exciting!

Coolguy17 - I think that you can join according to the rules, but I think that possibly it would be easier if you joined the Golden Perch thread. Nothing is happening there, but we can change that. Once people start posting, others will come back to it. The Golden Perch is a better place to get your feet wet in RPGing here on the Downs.

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-05-2011, 04:49 PM

Your new character looks really interesting, Dury! Hope that it means we will be seeing more of you posting :)

I have posted for Scyrr... Scyrr had spoken :D and also a bit for Hilderinc... by the way, if anybody felt like engaging him as a night-walker, having a small chat or something, that's also a possibility... open for grabs, as they say... that's especially for those who might not be engaged in the inside-scene... Anyway, I am interested to see how will that one develop (I think it might be possibly coming near to an end... depends on the behavior of all people, however :) )

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-05-2011, 05:45 PM

Whoops... Foley, the last sentence of Scyrr's was still supposed to be addressing Léof, he was only pointing at Quin to make it clear (also to Quin, of course) that if Léof wants them all gone, than includes also Quin. The "kid" remark was still aimed at Léof.

Durelin

10-05-2011, 06:12 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and have Coen intervene because now it's just me delaying and not Coen ;p (Unless you're already working on a post Legate)

I'll not mention anything specific regarding the last bit of dialogue in case Foley decides to make changes.

Folwren

10-05-2011, 06:33 PM

Oh. Okay. I edited my post to reflect your clarification, Legate.

Durelin

10-05-2011, 06:44 PM

Let me know if I need to edit anything!

Legate - Tylda has harassed...erm, I mean, addressed Hilderinc

Also I feel really stupid. I've been trying to figure out forever what the best term is to refer to the 'soldiers' (because soldiers doesn't feel right to me) and finally I realized...durr, riders. Cause this is Rohan....

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-06-2011, 04:51 AM

Great posts, both of ye! :) Nice one, Foley, and great save from Coen, Dury. I will get a post up sometime later today...

Let me know if I need to edit anything!

Legate - Tylda has harassed...erm, I mean, addressed Hilderinc

Also I feel really stupid. I've been trying to figure out forever what the best term is to refer to the 'soldiers' (because soldiers doesn't feel right to me) and finally I realized...durr, riders. Cause this is Rohan....

That's actually not funny at all, I feel similarly stupid because I think neither of us had thought of it before. It just might be that we are all the time in situations when the people are on foot, therefore, they really don't seem like "riders" in the situation... but of course. How stupid.

I'll definitely have Hilderinc reply in my next post...

Technical question, however, Dury - so what is the name? It seems to be Tylda according to your RP post and this post, only in your original character-info post, you wrote Tyrdda, so curious... ;)

Durelin

10-06-2011, 08:46 AM

Haha, woops! Speaking of stupid...thanks, Legate. I originally put it as Tylda and then changed it to Tyrdda... >< Editing my post, it's Tyrdda, I promise.

littlemanpoet

10-06-2011, 10:02 AM

Also I feel really stupid. I've been trying to figure out forever what the best term is to refer to the 'soldiers' (because soldiers doesn't feel right to me) and finally I realized...durr, riders. Cause this is Rohan....I've struggled with the same issue and settled on "warriors". "Riders" is better, so I guess that makes me stupider than you, Dury. :p

Firefoot

10-06-2011, 12:54 PM

Durelin, can't wait for Coen to try and "have a word" with Leof (and Quin) later. Could get really interesting, depending on how Coen approaches it... ;)

Folwren

10-06-2011, 03:00 PM

Durelin, can't wait for Coen to try and "have a word" with Leof (and Quin) later. Could get really interesting, depending on how Coen approaches it... ;)

I second that sentiment. Let's not forget this.

-- Foley

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-06-2011, 06:32 PM

I second that sentiment. Let's not forget this.

Exactly. I would love to see that too.

Posted for Hilderinc. Not sure how much of a chatty person is he, but that's a good start, I would say. I don't know whether Tyrdda will try to pursue the dialogue into any striking lengths, but she surely can pick up on anything he had just said. But that's up to you, Dury :)

Folwren

10-06-2011, 06:35 PM

Exactly. I would love to see that too.

I can just see Leof getting upset with Coen about calling him 'lad' again and all, and Quin in the background just being like, "No, no, no!" Haha.

-- Foley

Folwren

10-07-2011, 06:27 AM

I've got a post in the works for Saeryn, it'll be up a little later today.

littlemanpoet

10-07-2011, 09:39 AM

I can just see Leof getting upset with Coen about calling him 'lad' again and all, and Quin in the background just being like, "No, no, no!" Haha.

-- Foley
Aren't Athanar's sons the same general age as Léof and Quin? What if Lommy could be gotten to write a little bit of some kind of interruption? :eek:

Looking forward to some "sauce" aimed Hildrinc's way, too, Dury! :D

Durelin

10-07-2011, 08:48 PM

I honestly don't see what the big deal is with the word 'lad,' lol. And Coen won't either. Of course age doesn't matter with Athanar's sons, they're lordlings (also the one is a bit older anyway)! But Leof is a stablehand, and quite a bit younger than Coen...thus lad. :p (He is around 16, right? I know that's not as young for a man in Rohan as in 'modern RL,' but still, enough younger than Coen to be a lad!)

Quin's a little older than Leof, so maybe he's not a lad. But maybe he is...again, just because of the age difference. They're so young in Coen's eyes! ;)

Firefoot

10-07-2011, 11:20 PM

For Leof, it's not so much the word itself as the way a lot of the soldiers are using it/treating him (aka he's super sensitive right now). Because under Eodwine, he was treated as the "stablemaster," and now the riders have all relegated him to "stableboy." The way he sees it, they don't respect him just because he's young even though he's totally competent. So any hint of that is likely to set him off. He probably wouldn't feel the same way, though, if Eodwine called him lad.

And Leof was 16 eight game months ago when I wrote his bio... so he's 16-17 now.

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-08-2011, 04:37 AM

For Leof, it's not so much the word itself as the way a lot of the soldiers are using it/treating him (aka he's super sensitive right now). Because under Eodwine, he was treated as the "stablemaster," and now the riders have all relegated him to "stableboy."

Except for Hilderinc, though, mind you. He keeps calling him "stablemaster" very purposefully since the very first day, since that was the first way he had heard people speaking about him (in fact, he had been directed to find the "stablemaster" and when the "stablemaster" came to him, he was surprised to see a... well, a boy :) ). It is, therefore, a bit of a private joke for him, too, but it might not be visible on the outside, so it is just up to Léof how he interpretates it, whether he sees it as genuine or whether he suspects Hilderinc of actually just being ironic about it or something like that. But Hilderinc certainly keeps a straight face when calling him that way, it's not like he's sniggering under his breath.

And Gwath, Crabannan is great - I mean, I hate him. :D If there was anyone trying to smoothen over the division between the "old" and "new" Scarburgians, Crabannan's generalising would probably make him wail in frustration.

Firefoot

10-08-2011, 10:32 AM

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-08-2011, 06:01 PM

Righto, Legate. It could well be that Leof's woes are as much imagined as real. It's hard to get this across when writing from a limited perspective, but Leof's still not totally secure in his position at the hall (though he hasn't really realized it). There's part of him that still feels that this is all too good to be true (since he ran away from a bad situation at home). When he came to Eodwine looking for help, he really wasn't expecting anything more than a very low level position - and then he got put in charge of the stables, so he's worked really hard to live up to that.

I think I took Hilderinc's attitude and sort of projected it onto the other soldiers, and then assumed not all of them would be quite so tactful about it. On top of that, a lot of the soldiers tend to their own horses a fair bit, so Leof feels like he's being cut out and he's not really in charge of "his domain" anymore.

Rightly done, as I really think quite many will have the attitude "look, a little boy..." - of course again, maybe they wouldn't have minded that much had it been "at home", but with the general "we have arrived, we are not liked by the locals, this place literally sucks, and what's that, boys for stablemasters?"

Anyway, the situation outside seems to be funny - I don't have time to post right at this very moment, but I think I will check around some twelve hours from now, and if Dury does not post anything for Tyrdda in response to Hilderinc, or if she does not object, I think it would be logical for Hilderinc and Tyrdda to overhear Scyrr and Saeryn outside (in case Dury would post then we could of course even still have a part of Hilderinc-Tyrdda dialogue, "as if" it happened before Scyrr and Saeryn came outside, but otherwise, I think it would be logical for those two to overhear them soon...).

Durelin

10-08-2011, 06:27 PM

Ah, I didn't think he would be a 'stablemaster' for one thing, and not really sure what that means or entails. Like I don't know if that would have extra status in Rohan? But it's still about age to me (well, for Coen), and I don't think any of the riders owe even the 'stablemaster' a special degree of respect. I mean he's still a 'common' man like them and just has a particular position in the hall like them (he's not an equerry or the like). And as for the riders taking care of their own mounts, well, I always figured that's what riders of Rohan would do. That it would be typical, because they'd have a special relationship with their mounts. Not that they'd do all their maintenance or of course the dirty work unless they were ordered to ;p

Sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative, just like discussing this. Partly because it seems to keep happening in this RP that I find characters getting upset for reasons I don't understand/I have a different understanding of the circumstances and nature of the culture and such. If that makes sense? But no big deal obviously, I just don't want to be too far off on the wrong page when interacting with other's characters. You know, I don't want Coen to look like a jerk because everyone agrees it's wrong for him to call Leof a lad ;) Not that in-character misunderstandings are a problem!

Btw, about Scyrr...is he ever going to stop being picked on? (I mean, made to look like a complete fool/jerk all of the time?) Speaking of looking for a fight...*cough*Saeryn*cough*...haha

littlemanpoet

10-08-2011, 06:39 PM

It just occurred to me that we used to call Léof the "ostler", which was correct when the "Eorl of Middle Emnet's" Hall was "The White Horse Inn". Now, at Scarburg, he would of course be called "stablemaster", since ostlers are associated with inns and "hotels" or "hostels", as they used to be called. An ostler's job is quite different from a stablemaster's. An ostler is caring for the mounts of guests, whereas a Meadhall stablemaster is in charge of the stables, and therefore of the care of the horses in the stables. Well, perhaps not so different, but different enough; has a more military sense about it, I guess, instead of the market driven sense. It looks to me that some of Léof's issues derive from this very change, what?

Foley, what on earth does Saeryn think she's doing? :D

Folwren

10-08-2011, 06:53 PM

Sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative, just like discussing this. Partly because it seems to keep happening in this RP that I find characters getting upset for reasons I don't understand/I have a different understanding of the circumstances and nature of the culture and such. If that makes sense? But no big deal obviously, I just don't want to be too far off on the wrong page when interacting with other's characters. You know, I don't want Coen to look like a jerk because everyone agrees it's wrong for him to call Leof a lad ;) Not that in-character misunderstandings are a problem!

I think a lot of characters are over-reacting. Saeyrn, for one, definitely is. Leof seems REALLY sensitive right now about being called a boy or considered one.

As for the culture, I actually think a stablemaster would get some special respect. No MORE than the riders, certainly, but some, just becaues of the manner in which they treated their horses.

Btw, about Scyrr...is he ever going to stop being picked on? (I mean, made to look like a complete fool/jerk all of the time?) Speaking of looking for a fight...*cough*Saeryn*cough*...haha

Nope, he's never going to stop being picked on. And yep, Saeryn is definitely scrapping for a fight.

Foley, what on earth does Saeryn think she's doing?

Being brave and standing up for her men. What does it look like? :p

Firefoot

10-08-2011, 11:39 PM

Durelin, it makes total sense that the riders would take care of their own mounts, but like lmp said, it just represents a shift from what Leof was used to and he's not quite sure what it means or whether he likes it. Before, the stables were sort of like his private domain (others came and went, of course, but he was much more in charge), but now a much larger number of people are spending a significant more amount of time there, so that Leof no longer feels like he's the one running things. He'd gotten used to being treated more or less like an equal by others at the hall, and now he feels like he's been downgraded. So, yeah, he's overreacting. I don't think that Coen's been acting unrealistically at all. He's just coming from a very different viewpoint than Leof, and obviously he wouldn't know just what an adjustment that Leof's having to make, because he wasn't around before.

I feel like a new pair of acronyms are needed, BA and AA (before Athanar and after Athanar). ;)

littlemanpoet

10-09-2011, 04:47 AM

I feel like a new pair of acronyms are needed, BA and AA (before Athanar and after Athanar). ;)Or if we follow the Latinate for Anno Domine, AA = "In the Year of Our Athanar". :p

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-09-2011, 05:02 AM

I think a lot of characters are over-reacting.
I would rather put it this way: I would like to see one character who is not over-reacting. Okay, there might be one or three.

Nope, he's never going to stop being picked on. And yep, Saeryn is definitely scrapping for a fight.
Oh my, being a jerk and drunk as he is, Scyrr is not going to hit a woman! Well, also because of one reason: it would put him too "low", I think he might even enjoy the fact and in fact humiliate Saeryn by not hitting her.

I feel like a new pair of acronyms are needed, BA and AA (before Athanar and after Athanar).

Sounds good :)

By the way, a random remark about Scyrr. It seems he is constantly being portraited as a jerk, but I think he is more like "the" jerk, because he tends to get into trouble the most. But maybe just for counter-balance, I would like to point out that even he is, after all, only a man.

I don't think he is being "purposefully evil" or anything like that, he is just the most grudg-y person around, most annoyed with stuff, and not having the restraints to express it (especially when being drunk); on top of everything, he is just stubborn so that he's unwilling to listen to the others and get convinced that things are not as he projects them to be. Since the beginning it's been like that. He arrived with the idea "we are moving somewhere to the middle of nowhere, that sucks". After his arrival, he was proved right: it is the middle of nowhere. People around there are disliking the new people. They want Eodwine back. Ergo, Eodwine wants to get back to power. And kick Athanar out. A simple train of thought, the problem with Scyrr is that unless something really powerful proves him wrong, he is going to stay with his opinion and interpretate everything through the lens of it. Circular reasoning, if you wish. :)

Anyway, on Foley's request I posted, but we will keep the Saeryn-Scyrr/Tyrdda-Hilderinc stuff separate for a while yet, so that there is time to unfold the dialogues a bit more. Then, if things really get out of hand somewhere, there can be intervention.

Folwren

10-09-2011, 07:02 AM

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-09-2011, 05:38 PM

Legate, good post. I like playing with different people because they make characters react in ways that maybe I wouldn't have it. This definitely turned the tables on Saeryn and for a minute I didn't know how she'd respond. I almost had her walk away, but I thought I'd give you another chance of saying something.

You're welcome. :) Now I posted, and seems we also got one question from Scyrr's past answered - i.e., how he got to Athanar's service in the first place.

Also, for further reference, if anything happens outside (now I don't know how likely it is, but still counting on that possibility), if Falco and/or Scyld want to rush in, then I think it would be funny (but absolutely logical) if Hilderinc/Tyrdda did the same at the same point (so, just for further reference, in case such a thing happened and LMP or somebody were to post, you could write your post counting on that happening).

P.S. I'm pretty sure there are some characters who aren't over-reacting. I don't think Thornden has over-reacted about anything recently, and Eodwine seems pretty calm with things...Athanar's been cool lately, too. Coenred is a pretty level headed chap...so, yeah, I'd say we have quite a few characters that aren't. The only problem is, it's the over-reacting ones that we hear about. :D

Yes, well, but then again, that's where the "action" comes from, right? ;)

Of the "overreacting" people, I think Hilderinc in general isn't overreacting either - except for that one thing with the sheep-pen. I think he is more like, hmm, I wouldn't call that overreacting, but approaching stuff from wrong angles, so to say. Very often misinterpreting stuff (remembering even the initial fiasco when he kept thinking - actually, I think he had never been corrected on that issue - that it was Erbrand and not - whichever one it was - Matrim - who caused the brawl on the day of Athanar's arrival. What a pity this won't probably get to show at any point anymore).