Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[littlemanpoet]

I like it that Frodides was "inattentive". It plays well with the kind of 'wares' this old man trades in. So Frodides need not explain anymore than that she barely noticed the man.

You'll see what I mean with the next post, perhaps.

By the way, now that Rowenna is no longer the villainess of Scarburg, I give much credit to Groin for making Erbrand, shall we say, "difficult to get along with". Funny, I would have expected that role more for Crabannan, but Groin certainly is writing his character most consistently. Well done, Groin!

[Groin Redbeard]

By the way, now that Rowenna is no longer the villainess of Scarburg, I give much credit to Groin for making Erbrand, shall we say, "difficult to get along with". Funny, I would have expected that role more for Crabannan, but Groin certainly is writing his character most consistently. Well done, Groin!I'm flattered LMP!:D Perhaps Rowenna could give Erbrand some pointers on how to be a villain. I never imagined that my character would be the meany of the group, but to be honest it's quite fun!:D

[Nogrod]

Nice to see things moving...

I got totally blocked with the fight and then jammed in front of the TV as they showed Blade Runner there. Luckily I peeked in before going to sleep. I have now set the final match on and Stigend has answered the old man. I'll try to come up with the actual fight tomorrow.

[Lhunardawen]

By the way, now that Rowenna is no longer the villainess of Scarburg...
I'll certainly miss her being that. :( :D

[littlemanpoet]

I'll certainly miss her being that. :( :D
Rowenna can still not get along with Ginna.... ;)

[Lhunardawen]

Rowenna can still not get along with Ginna.... ;)
True. But I think at this point Ginna wouldn't really care much. :p

[Nogrod]

Done at last!

I'll think twice before I promise to write two this kind of games in a row with many individual matches in both... :)

I hope you're satisfied with my decision that lord Eodwine offers Lithor a draw in the end lmp. At that point it just felt to me like something Eodwine would do, that would actually fit his character (at least my feel of him). I'll make them fight it to the end if you wish.

[littlemanpoet]

Nicely turned tale, Noggie!

Eodwine is a bit disappointed that his right hand man Thornden did not win the quarterstaffs, as no doubt he would had he not come to the rescue of his lord.

Think i'll have Eodwine say that to him at some point.... :)

[Folwren]

Oh, it was so close! Very well written, Nogrod! I enjoyed every bout!

I hope Eodwine's not TOO disappointed with Thornden. He was, after all, a little preoccupied.

So...not to seem like I'm rushing it or anything, but I am still anxious and excited about Ginna's dad coming back...are the sword fights next?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

K, I'm dragging this forward, althought there's anything worth dragging here. Gwathy, it's your turn! Oooh, wait...did I promise never to call you that again? Sorry. :p


Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim, Ginna--> GWATHAGOR

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[littlemanpoet]

*Snicker!* :D I've posted up for Eodwine.

Noggie, let me know if I should change any words I've put in the mouth of Stigend. I've also given you opportunity to have Stigend protest that Eodwine is too trusting or generous, or what have you ... if you want to go that route. Or not - let me know and I can change the end of my post.

So now you know, Groin! :) Not a fighter .... exactly. Rather, a wizard. And if any of you wish to object that there were only five Istari, that may very well be, but I insist upon creative license that there cannot be only 5 wizards in all of middle earth - no one said they all have to be angels from Valinor. Some could be extremely long-lived old men who have come across their abilities in ways that are possible in middle earth. :)

[Nogrod]

Stigend is okay by me. He should be something like that; insecure, not knowing what to do / say or how to act etc. That is conveyed nicely in your post - although there is this, I'm not sure how people at that world would have phrased it...
"It ain't natural!"I mean something being "natural" kind of requires the division between natural and un- or supernatural only our scientific culture has brought forwards. But yeah, what could it be then? Odd, weird, confusing...?

And Stigend would not protest to an authority, even less to an authority he admires... :)

So a wizard then... well I thought of that and made my last post accordingly but in a way that was vague enough that if I was wrong it could have been explained just by Stigend being confused. Interesting!


If I'm not able to write a short post leading the stranger to Thornden before you Foley, you should feel free to take that as granted (and if you wish, to write a line or two for Stigend bringing him to Thornden).

I mean Legate is visiting us and now also Aganzir and couple of other Lommy's friends (+ Greenie of course) are here to celebrate the new year and I have first some catering - and then some partying - to do with them. :D

Happy new year everyone!

[littlemanpoet]

... although there is this, I'm not sure how people at that world would have phrased it... It ain't natural!I mean something being "natural" kind of requires the division between natural and un- or supernatural only our scientific culture has brought forwards. But yeah, what could it be then? Odd, weird, confusing...?That's right out of LoR - when Sam is caught by Gandalf eavesdropping, and Sam says, "Please don't turn me into anything unnatural!" ... or something like that? :confused: So I was playing on that. :)

[Nogrod]

That's right out of LoR - when Sam is caught by Gandalf eavesdropping, and Sam says, "Please don't turn me into anything unnatural!" ...Ah, you're right... so it's the prof's problem then. :rolleyes: :D

[Formendacil]

Ah, you're right... so it's the prof's problem then. :rolleyes: :D

Well know... don't be so hasty to give in there, Master Nogrod. For a philosopher, you're most un-Entishly hasty to give up a point. One could argue, after all, that the Shire and Rohan have very different ways of looking at the world, and while Sam might use the word "unnatural" in such a sense, there's no reason to assume the same of Stigend.

Of course, since I can't help arguing both sides of the issue, it seems to me only fair to support Elempi, and point out that by having Stigend use it, from a reader's perspective the parallel to Sam and Gandalf is made immediately more apparent (and, indeed, when this topic came up here, my first thought was of Sam).

;)

[littlemanpoet]

I've adjusted my latest post to show Stigend accepting Eodwine's decision. I would appreciate someone else posting so that I don't double post (champing at the bit). :p

[Folwren]

I posted for you, Elempi - now you won't have to double post. ;)

If I put any false words into anyone's mouth, just let me know. I thought that Eodwemer's answer was like him, though. I could be wrong.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

All right, the post I've been trying to get to is now up. With a twist. ;) Enjoy.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Aww, my own little Saeryn all grown up and not emotionally broken any more...

She appears so much healthier under Foley's charge...

I'll have to ponder this idea another time, and avoid the conclusion that Foley is more emotionally stable than I am. :);)

*watches excitedly*

[littlemanpoet]

Aww, my own little Saeryn all grown up and not emotionally broken any more...

She appears so much healthier under Foley's charge...

I'll have to ponder this idea another time, and avoid the conclusion that Foley is more emotionally stable than I am. :);)

*watches excitedly*
Hah! Nothing of the sort. Messed up is more interesting to write. Right? ;)

[Folwren]

lol! I really have no idea what you two were expecting, or what else she could have said at such a moment, but whatever the case is, I've posted. I hope no one is expecting.

-- Foley

(What WERE you thinking of? Her being embarrassed and running off and not knowing what to answer?)

[Gwathagor]

I hope no one is expecting.




Well, I'd bet Saeryn will be pretty soon. :p

[littlemanpoet]

Actually, Foley, it crossed my mind that you might have Saeryn say that yes, she would marry, but not tonight. But it's better this way. More Eorling, I hope to think.

Well, I'd bet Saeryn will be (expecting) pretty soon. :p
:D Good one Gwath!

Foley, I must request that you add the following in between the whispered words and her pulling away.

For sheer joy Eodwine hed her tight and spun her around in the air, careless of the formalities of court. And just as careless of said social ordinances, he set her on her feet, drew her face toward his, and kissed her on the lips.

"You know I love you!" he cried.

The crowd whooped and applauded.Thanks in advance. :)

But now the order of events for the remainder of the day must be revised, as follows:

Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim, Ginna--> GWATHAGOR

Wedding

Feast

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[Folwren]

Well, I'd bet Saeryn will be pretty soon. :p

That was actually a typo. :o I don't even know what I meant to say. Makes me wonder if I wrote something wrong in my post. *scratches head*

Anyway...Elempi, I'll make those changes.

Is Randver's coming going to change anything? Knock stuff off its track? I'm still thinking about that, as you can see.

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

Haha, thanks for your continued expectation (and I don't mean anything like what Gwath said :D), Foley. I think the only people who will be affected by Randvér's arrival are Ginna and Harreld. Good thing Harreld didn't think of following Eodwine's move, or that will make things more complicated. :eek:

[littlemanpoet]

Haha, thanks for your continued expectation (and I don't mean anything like what Gwath said :D), Foley. I think the only people who will be affected by Randvér's arrival are Ginna and Harreld. Good thing Harreld didn't think of following Eodwine's move, or that will make things more complicated. :eek:
Who's to say it's not on his mind? :D

[Lhunardawen]

Who's to say it's not on his mind? :D

I don't think he will act on the idea so soon, though. :p

[littlemanpoet]

My oh my, Foley, now you've gone and done it. ;) How will Rowenna respond? How does she think the other women will react? Her writer must give this some thought.....

[Thinlómien]

This is getting brilliant. I think I'll post someday this week since I'm back roaming these barrows... if you Kath haven't written by then, I will take the liberty of responding for Frodides along the lines Elempi suggested. :)

[Kath]

Go for it Lommy, I haven't got Frodides in my head at the moment for some reason and I'd love to see what you do with her. :)

[Folwren]

Is Gwathagor about? The sword fighting contests can start soon, right? :D

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

It can start now.

Hey Gwath! It's time for the sword fight! You're up!

Nice bit of tension there Fea - I think that you want the term "envy" rather than "jealousy". You're envious over what you don't have, jealous over what you do and don't want to lose.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

He's a man of Rohan, so he's awesome. He's the son of a lord, so the boy's got skills. He also likes swords. So the boy's got skills.

And he's um... frustrated... right now.

So the boy's got testosterone overload.

So if the sword fights run anything true to how he's feeling, he should either do exceptionally well, or he should make a foolish error in the heat of the moment.

Just throwing that out there...

Edit: Envy. Yes. I'll fix that.

[Folwren]

Nice bit of tension there Fea - I think that you want the term "envy" rather than "jealousy". You're envious over what you don't have, jealous over what you do and don't want to lose.

Really? I never knew that. That's very interesting. Now I understand some verses from the Bible better. Haha.

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

And now I insist the boys must be up to some mischief, at least the younger ones. :D

[Folwren]

Well....Did Thornden win or loose? They could conceivably be squabling over that.

[Lhunardawen]

Really? I never knew that. That's very interesting. Now I understand some verses from the Bible better. Haha.
Ditto. Thanks for that tidbit, Elempi.

Fea, that was a great post. Poor Degas... Hmm, I wonder if there's any way at any time that Linduial could visit Scarburg? I miss Jenny.

Whoa, the swordfight already?! Uh, I mean yeah, finally. :p

Following Fea's lead: Ginna's no Eowyn. At first she didn't even want to learn how to use a sword, but Randver's word is more or less law in his household. Since her father is a good swordsman and she spent quite a lot of time in the past sparring with him, she's pretty competent, though she lacks experience. And by now she's quite rusty.

Poor girl, I never should have let her join, but she insisted. Something about making an impression on Harreld, methinks. ;)

[littlemanpoet]

You're welcome on the tidbit. :)

Eodwine, being of the Eorlingas = Rohirric knight: he is most handy with spear of course, since that was Eorling cavalry mode. However, all Eorlingas know the sword and so Eodwine is a veteran in its use. He has not had much need in the last 15 years (since the War), but he like any other Eorling knows to keep his skills "oiled" through daily sparring and the like. We haven't written any posts like that, but it certainly can come up as if it had occurred on a regular basis. A warlike people don't stop being warlike just because there's no war.... ;)

While we wait for Gwath on the sword fight, let's do some research on Anglo-Saxon wedding cermonies. I won't get a chance today (I don't think), but if there's anybody who wants to beat me to the punch, feel free.

[Folwren]

While we wait for Gwath on the sword fight, let's do some research on Anglo-Saxon wedding cermonies. I won't get a chance today (I don't think), but if there's anybody who wants to beat me to the punch, feel free.

I will, if I have time, but I don't know if I will have any time. We'll see.

By the bye, (is it by the bye, or by the by?) Nogrod or Lommy, what are your thoughts on my suggestion above about the boys being 'up to mischief', as Lommy puts it, over whether or not Thornden lost or won?

-- Foley

[Gwathagor]

Ah, the sword-fight. :) I'll put the screenplay I'm writing on hold and see if I can't make some progress on our final game then.

[Gwathagor]

Is Gwathagor about? The sword fighting contests can start soon, right? :D

-- Foley

Sorry sorry sorry! Yes! Maybe in a couple of days?

[Gwathagor]

So, rather than using the stats as previous folks have done, I'd like everyone who's got a character in the sword fights to give me a short run down on how well their character gets along with swords.

I reckon our swords look generally like the one in this picture (http://www.octavia.net/anglosaxon/Anatomyofasword.htm), but maybe a little, little bit longer since the Eorlings are fighting from horseback and thus might require greater reach.

The contest itself I think will be similar to Nogrod's quarterstaff matches, where you win by striking your opponent a number of times. Does this sound satisfactory? Any suggestions? I'm open to them.

[littlemanpoet]

Nogrod or Lommy, what are your thoughts on my suggestion above about the boys being 'up to mischief', as Lommy puts it, over whether or not Thornden lost or won?
Foley, take initiative.

Gwath, some of us have already posted our characters' sword use. Please look up a couple posts. Best check the chapter, "The Golden Hall" in Two Towers regading Eorling swords. But I think you're right.

Yes, striking one's opponent is the deciding factor. Like fencing only with more options.

[Nogrod]

Foley, take initiative.
Please do if you have ideas. I'll write something on this weekend as well but go on if you're there first.

[Groin Redbeard]

Hey Gwath, just so you know, Erbrand has had no practice with the sword.:) He'll be relying on instincts as usual but he's pretty tuckered out by now, Erbrand has been in almost every game. Feel free to use him however you want.

[Folwren]

Please do if you have ideas. I'll write something on this weekend as well but go on if you're there first.

Okay dokay! The problem is, I don't know if I have time today... If I do have time, I promise I'll post. But, Nogrod or Lommy, if YOU have time to post before me, do so.

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

That was great, Foley. :D (But I have to say I wondered why Garmund is called Garwine half of the time.... ;))

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Lose, Foley, not loose, but otherwise very good. I like it. Reminds me of my brother teaching me to play cards when we were little. Just as I thought I was finally getting the hang of it, and winning, he'd remember a rule he'd previously forgotten which would mean that I couldn't do that move. :rolleyes::)

[Folwren]

Thanks for the heads up, girls. Tomorrow I'll fix the problems. (Lommy, you could not IMAGINE how much trouble I was having remembering that poor boy's name!)

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Great job everyone with progressing the story along, especially LMP and Folwren! That scheme of yours, LMP, added so much vitality to the RPG. I expect to be more active with my posts as soon as the games are over. Speaking of which, are the sword fights happening soon!:D Sorry for bugging you about that Gwath, everyone is looking forward to the explosive conclusion to toDay.

I have a post up with Erbrand asking Kara what is going on. If you could respond to that, Kath, whenever you got the time I would appreciate it.:)

[Kath]

There you go Groin! Answer up.

[Groin Redbeard]

Thanks Kath, I'll get my response up sometime today!:)


Interesting Facts
I found some interesting and cool things about Anglo-Saxon weddings. For instance, did you know that the tradition of tying shoes to cars originated from way back when? In Anglo-Saxon times, the groom would tap the heel of the bride’s shoe to show his authority over her. In later times, people would throw shoes at the couple. Now, thankfully, folks just tie shoes to the new couple’s car.:D I could just picture Harreld throwing a tremendous boot at the couple with a smile on his face!

Dress
Anne of Brittany made the white wedding dress popular in 1499. Before that, a woman Just wore her best dress. It should be noted that a white wedding dress is in no way indicative of The "purity" of the bride-to-be. Indeed, white is not accorded as a symbol of chastity, but of joy.

Something Blue:
In continuing with the discussion of the white wedding dress, it should be noted that – in Biblical days – blue represented purity. Thus the bride and groom would wear a blue band around the bottom of their wedding attire, hence something blue.

Cake
I know that the ancient Romans would bake a cake made of wheat or barley and break it over the bride’s head as a symbol of her fertility (Whether this meant cracking the cake above the bride’s head or actually bonking her on the noggin with it is rather unclear. I'm not sure we want to know…). Over time, it became traditional to stack several cakes atop one another, as tall as possible. The bride and groom would then be charged to kiss over this tower without knocking it over. If they were successful, a lifetime of good fortune was certain for the new couple. Finally, during the reign of King Charles II of England, it became customary for cake to be a palatable palace iced with sugar. I don't know if we are even planning on having a cake, just something interesting in case we do.

The Wedding Ceremony
Items Needed:
The rings
The groom's ancestral sword
A new sword to be given from bride to groom

I'm trying to keep this as concise as possible, but I'm afraid that I can't explain some the terminology from the book. Therefore I'm just going to write this part from it:

Women were seen as very powerful, carriers of the family mægen, and more intimately connected to the kinfetch as well as the Idesa of the clan than men. They served as head of the household, and did many of the chores that ensured the community would survive. Therefore when they left to marry, the family suffered a great loss. To a lesser degree, the handgeld was to reimburse the family for her loss of labour, but in no way should it be seen as a purchasing of a bride. Instead it was an attempt to equalize gift for gift. This gift for gift scenario is seen throughout the ancient marriage process, and was a way of exchanging maegen and hamingja between the couple and their families. It was in essence, fusing members of the two clans into one family. The exchange continued through the wedding ceremony. In various Heathen areas such customs as exchanging rings, swords for keys, mead, and cake are seen. Such customs were very old and dated from at least the time of Taticus' writing of Germania. In it he says that brides were obtained by payment of a dowry by the groom in the form of sword and shield, cattle and bridled horse. On the morning after the wedding, the groom also had to give his new wife a morning gift, the morgengifu. This was hers to keep and use the entirety of her life. Finally, in addition to the groom paying the handgeld and morgengifu, the bride's family had to pay the brýdgifu. This was the bride's dowry, forever hers and untouchable by her husband. It was to ensure, in event of the husband's death or divorce, that her and her children were provided for.

All has been mostly taken care of between Degas and Eodwine so we don't have to worry about that, for the most part. The ceremony is overseen by a prophet/druid in the old days, or by the head of the house, and was called a Weofodthegn (try and pronounce that and not laugh:D). I'm guessing that that was one of the reasons why you brought that wizard to Scarburg Eodwine, or was it just chance?

1) The Wedding Trip

The bride goes to the site of the wedding. She is proceeded by a young kinsman bearing the new sword to be giving to the groom. The groom likewise, bearing his ancestral blade accompanied by the groomsmen goes to the site.

2) Hallowing of the site

The Weofodthegn hallows the site and then makes a brief statement as to why they are gathered that day

3) Exchange of handgeld and brýdgifu

The handgeld and brýdgifu are then exchanged. This may be done with the following words:

Weofodthegn to Groom
"Do you have the handgeld as you oathed to have?"

Groom
"Yes"

Groom to Father of bride:
"I give you this, the handgeld as I oathed to do." A few words may be added describing the handgeld.

Weofodthegn to father of the bride
"Do you have the brýdgifu as you oathed to have?"

Father of bride to bride:
"Yes"

Father of bride to bride:
"I give you this the brýdgifu. It is yours to have and hold all of your days."

Weofodthegn:
"The brýdgifu and handgeld have been gifted and given. The holy oaths given have been held. Now let the bridegroom and bride exchange their oaths"

4) The Exchange of swords

The groom then gives the bride his ancestral sword. Something like the following words should be said:

"I give you this sword to save for our sons to have and to use."

The bride then gives the groom the new sword with something like the following words:

"To keep us safe, you must bear a blade. With this sword keep safe our home."

5) The Exchange of rings, the oaths, and the keys

The couple should then exchange vows and rings. These oaths are best written by the couple and should involve any pre-marital agreements that were made. Both oaths should, but need not have to invoke the goddess Wær (Vár) as keeper of oaths. Both the groom's oath, and the bride's oath should end with something like "With this ring I thee wed," with the placement of the wedding ring upon the other's finger. The bride's ring is offered on the hilt of the new sword symbolizing his trust in her. Finally, all of the groom's keys are given to the bride, as she is now keeper of the household.

6) Pronouncement

The Weofodthegn witnessing the vows then pronounces the couple werman and wife and states whatever else is prescribed by his state or nation for a legal wedding.

I tried to write this in the strictest sense of an Anglos-Saxon wedding, we don't have to use everything that they did back then. I'm sure Folwren and LMP might have some ideas of their own.

EDIT: Sorry, I won't be able to post today. I've got to get some chores done outside and it will last well past dark.

[littlemanpoet]

Wow, Groin! That was excellent! I'd rep you if I could. :) Much can be used of that. I'll have to think what Eodwine will and won't do in that regard....

[littlemanpoet]

So as not to drag even more than this is, if Gwath has not (been able to) post(ed) the swordfight by Saturday January 17, we will move on and the swordfight will have to appear as a reminscence. So it was said, so let it be done. ;)

[Nogrod]

So, rather than using the stats as previous folks have done, I'd like everyone who's got a character in the sword fights to give me a short run down on how well their character gets along with swords.Stigend has had military training in his youth as is said, so he shouldn't be a complete stranger to swordplay but surely his skills have rusted during the years even if he has used one a few times after the training years. But he is clearly more comfortable with a spear than with a sword.

Garstan shouldn't be a swordsman as such but his rugged life and many adventures surely have thought him a thing or two about surviving...

if Gwath has not (been able to) post(ed) the swordfight by Saturday January 17, we will move on and the swordfight will have to appear as a reminscence.Sounds fair to me. Let us hear from you Gwath! Let the swords ring! :)

[Nogrod]

I'm not so sure the boys will be too happy about the publicity their little fight is arousing... :D

At least Thornden, Stigend and Garstan are rushing to the place but feel free to intervene with your chracters as well if you feel like it.

[Folwren]

Hilarious post, Nogrod! I greatly enjoyed it. Javan is NOT going to take well to being called an 'oath breaker'. Ooooooh, them's fightin' words, buddy.

Will you alter the description of Thornden's exclamation from anguish to worry? I think that would be fitting. Thanks!

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Will you alter the description of Thornden's exclamation from anguish to worry? I think that would be fitting. Thanks!Done.

Javan is NOT going to take well to being called an 'oath breaker'. Ooooooh, them's fightin' words, buddy.That was the kind of intention... :)

Even if I do think those guys should be friends in the end (some distant future) we should not make it too easy. ;)

[Folwren]

That was the kind of intention... :)

Even if I do think those guys should be friends in the end (some distant future) we should not make it too easy. ;)

Oh, I agree entirely. Hehehehehee

-- Foley

[Gwathagor]

Sounds fair to me. Let us hear from you Gwath! Let the swords ring! :)

Ok, I'm going to try to write it tonight and tomorrow. We'll see what happens.

[Gwathagor]

Look, I am very sorry, but something much more important came up and I wasn't able to write the swordfight. I don't know if you all want to give me the chance to write it tomorrow, on Saturday?

By the way (and if you decide to give me a day extension), I could use suggestions as to how to format the sword-fight. There are a lot of people competing, and I'm not sure how to get through them all without waxing epic - like Nogrod's magnificent quarterstaff matches.

[Folwren]

I, for one, am willing to extend the deadline for you, but it's Elempi's call. I hope whatever came up is important in a good way and not in a bad one.

As for the way you write it, well, I can't say I'm the best one to give advice, but you asked for it.

Might you, instead of giving us a play by play, kind of give a general description? Sort of, illustrate at the beginning of the post how the overall game looked, put intenseness into it, and then, later in the post, more gloss over the couples' matches. And then, for one or two of the competitions, perhaps go into greater detail and have something of interest happen. This way, it will be shorter, but still interesting.

-- Folwren

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I really think Elempi doesn't mind us making calls for ourselves at this point, especially since he doesn't intend to be around much longer.

So Gwath, I have nothing against you posting a bit late and my recommendation for formatting is actually dead the same as Foley's.

You don't need every detail, just a few highlights.

[Gwathagor]

Yes, I was thinking of doing something rather like that, only with more emphasis on the final match perhaps.

[littlemanpoet]

No prob Gwath, thanks for speaking up. We can wait. It helps when people show up and at least say they can't post. It's the glaring silence that leaves me wondering, and impatient to keep things moving.

[Gwathagor]

Uh, Garmund and Stigend are signed up for the sword-fight, but they're both occupied with their sons right now. Should I drop them from the contest?

[Nogrod]

Uh, Garmund and Stigend are signed up for the sword-fight, but they're both occupied with their sons right now. Should I drop them from the contest?Let's hope Garmund is not, his father Garstan wouldn't agree on him taking part! :D

But to the actual problem: just ignore it. You can write how the sword-fights went with Garstan and Stigend (and Thornden, is he in?) and Foley, Lommy or I can write what happened with the kids later if no one can make it earlier.

So just keep them in the fights and don't worry. We'll worry about how they got there and what happened before the swordfights began.

[Gwathagor]

Let's hope Garmund is not, his father Garstan wouldn't agree on him taking part! :D



HA! You're right.

[Lhunardawen]

I'm alive and desperately wanting to post, but at the present I'm more than a little distracted. Goodness, I really hope I can manage to post for Randvér. Well, I must. I'll just ask for a little patience. Thanks. :)

[littlemanpoet]

I just noticed post # 401 for the first time this morning! Be assured that if I had noticed it before now, I would have posted in response to it long ago! It's been ten days! :eek:

I'm wondering whether to ask Foley to add Rowenna's response to the end of that post, or to include it in a new one?

Edit Never mind, I've taken care of it.

Gwath, if I am not mistaken, Thornden should also be part of the sword fights, and you may have to change things. Perhaps I might make a suggestion, that you take Ginna's fight with Degas from the second round to the first, and also replace Degas' name with Thornden in Degas' first round fight?

[Gwathagor]

Gwath, if I am not mistaken, Thornden should also be part of the sword fights, and you may have to change things. Perhaps I might make a suggestion, that you take Ginna's fight with Degas from the second round to the first, and also replace Degas' name with Thornden in Degas' first round fight?

I think you may be mistaken, actually. He's never been in any of the official game rosters.

[Gwathagor]

:p Phew. That was epic. I hope I represented Eodwine and Degas well, LMP and Fea.

If you'd like Thornden to be included, LMP, I could try to go back and edit him into the earlier fights somehow. Just let me know.

[Folwren]

Heck, why not? Go ahead and add him. I never did add his name to list - I thought that we had an even number of people for the game, so I didn't want to mess things up. But in your post it said it was odd, so to make it an even match, go ahead and add him! He should be in it anyway. :)

-- Foley

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

That was fantastic. Great writing, Gwath!

I was gasping when the limp proved to be feigned - "He was faking it!"

I never once felt like Degas wasn't very much himself, and that's an impressive feat, to take somebody's character and render them so well that the writer and creator feels like it's totally natural.

Great job. Loved it.

[Gwathagor]

Thanks, I'm glad Degas was true to life.

I just read the post straight through for the first time and found that it's really quite exciting!

[littlemanpoet]

That was quite handily done, Gwath! :) Thanks for taking time out from your busy drama producing schedule to do it. And you handled Eodwine's personality quite well, especially at the end. Now, flush from having his head removed from his neck --- at least so it would have been if it had been in earnest :D (pardon the pun) --- he is ready to have his widowerhood removed and let the nuptials begin!

As to that, I like all 6 points of Groin's wedding info post - they'll just have to be adapted to Eorling and Scarburg circumstances. I'll bet Harreld has a sword he can "sell" or offer to Degas and Saeryn that will serve as the gift sword. In fact, that might be a fun couple of posts to write, getting that all situated.

Consider this: Saeryn has not yet even thought of bride price and dowry concerns, and I'm expecting her to think of them at some point quite soon...

[Folwren]

Consider this: Saeryn has not yet even thought of bride price and dowry concerns, and I'm expecting her to think of them at some point quite soon...

Hm. I guess I need to think of them first. lol. When I have a moment - today is surprisingly full of necessary responsibilities. I do want to post, though, so maybe this afternoon I'll write something.

-- folwren

[Gwathagor]

That was quite handily done, Gwath! :) Thanks for taking time out from your busy drama producing schedule to do it. And you handled Eodwine's personality quite well, especially at the end.


Ok, good. I'm always concerned that I'll misrepresent someone's character.

And, honestly, that post was a HECK of a lot of fun to write. I wasn't sure at all how it would go - I just sat down and started writing out the fight, blow by blow, and, man, did it turn out to be exciting! I felt like I was one (or all?) of the characters, I felt all their adrenaline and surprise and everything. And since I was writing straight through from scratch (which took about two and a half hours), the excitement kept me from getting bored or having to get up and take a break.

[Groin Redbeard]

Gwath, that was an exciting ending for an exciting game to conclude a perfect day! Well done.:)


As to that, I like all 6 points of Groin's wedding info post - they'll just have to be adapted to Eorling and Scarburg circumstances. I'll bet Harreld has a sword he can "sell" or offer to Degas and Saeryn that will serve as the gift sword. In fact, that might be a fun couple of posts to write, getting that all situated. I'm glad that you liked it. If you would like, I have a couple of the soldiers getting ready right now to be the eorl's honor guard.;)

[Folwren]

And, honestly, that post was a HECK of a lot of fun to write. I wasn't sure at all how it would go - I just sat down and started writing out the fight, blow by blow, and, man, did it turn out to be exciting! I felt like I was one (or all?) of the characters, I felt all their adrenaline and surprise and everything. And since I was writing straight through from scratch (which took about two and a half hours), the excitement kept me from getting bored or having to get up and take a break.

It is so much fun when that happens! It was very enjoyable to read. :D

[Thinlómien]

Gwath, I loved your post, the end especially. Brilliant. And Groin, I loved your post too - but that might be partly because I just love Matrim, regardless of who's writing him he's always awesome. :D (And I can rep neither of you right now, because I've been spreading so much reputation lately...)

I'll try to write for Modtryth and/or Cnebba sometime this week.

[littlemanpoet]

"....fowl play.... So, Groin, he thinks birds were involved? :D I think you want foul. ;)

I hope Lhuna posts soon for Randvér, because any altercations involving he and Ginna ought to occur before the wedding.

[Groin Redbeard]

"....fowl play.... So, Groin, he thinks birds were involved? :D I think you want foul.Uh oh, it must have been the bird that I ate last night. Sorry about that.:o All fixed.

I hope Lhuna posts soon for Randvér, because any altercations involving he and Ginna ought to occur before the wedding. I didn't know if we agreed on him making an appearance today.:eek: This will be fun to watch, some more drama. Perhaps this will finally give Harreld the spunk he needs to ask Ginna to marry him!

[littlemanpoet]

I didn't know if we agreed on Randvér making an appearance today.:eek: This will be fun to watch, some more drama. Perhaps this will finally give Harreld the spunk he needs to ask Ginna to marry him!Or not.... a lot of this depends on Rand... ;) Before the 20th century, and in some parts of the world to this day, parents OWNED their children.

[Folwren]

Oh, please LET'S have it today! Please, please, please!

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Or not.... a lot of this depends on Rand... ;) Before the 20th century, and in some parts of the world to this day, parents OWNED their children.

Then let's bump the old man off! I'm sure Gwath wouldn't mind having Crabannan doing that, would Gwath?:rolleyes:

[Gwathagor]

Then let's bump the old man off! I'm sure Gwath wouldn't mind having Crabannan doing that, would Gwath?:rolleyes:

:smokin:

Not in the least.

[littlemanpoet]

Oh, please LET'S have it today! Please, please, please!

-- Foley
Well, "today" came and went. Lhuna?

Lucky for Crabannan and Erbrand that you guys are joking.... ;)

[Lhunardawen]

Goodness, I'm so sorry guys. I've honestly been trying to craft a post, but this had been a really crazy week (and it's not yet over). Will you give me until Monday? Please please?

[Gwathagor]

Then let's bump the old man off! I'm sure Gwath wouldn't mind having Crabannan doing that, would Gwath?:rolleyes:


Why not actually have it come to blows and have Crabannan be justified in delivering a thrashing? That would be an interesting twist - the redemption of Crabannan's brawling nature. Well, I'll have to at least keep that in mind for the future.

[Folwren]

Okay! I put up a post that Nogrod and I wrote about the boys and the fathers (and older brother).

Nogrod, if you want anything changed, let me know. As you see, I kind of mixed things up in the beginning, putting stuff you had written intermixed with what I had first written. Tell me if I got anything wrong.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Nogrod, if you want anything changed, let me know. As you see, I kind of mixed things up in the beginning, putting stuff you had written intermixed with what I had first written. Tell me if I got anything wrong.
Nothing to complain! On the contrary, you did good job emerging those initial versions together and I liked the way you managed to leave the ending without any clear conclusion so there's lot to go for after that post! :)

Let's then continue, with the wedding I presume? Anyone feeling like writing the ceremonies? Maybe someone involved in the actual wedding?

[Folwren]

I believe we're waiting to give Lhuna a chance to write something. She asked for until Monday. :) I am anxious to see if Randver returns.

[Nogrod]

Sorry, my mistake... :(

I am anxious to see if Randver returns.It would be interesting indeed... Let's see what will come out of it!

[Folwren]

Sorry, my mistake... :(

Ha! Don't apologize! I almost said the same thing as you, but more...annoyingly, earlier today. You're all good. :smokin:

[Lhunardawen]

I'm really, really sorry to keep you all waiting, but I might not make it to my Monday deadline. :( I had three papers to write over the weekend all due today (it's already Tuesday here), and I'm drained. Maybe I'll celebrate tonight by finally writing that post.

[Folwren]

Woah. Where do you live where it's already Tuesday? It's only Monday for me. :D :eek:

Whatever works for me. I'm willing to wait - but I just posted and so can't really speak for others who may be impatient to write.

Hey, Nogrod, since the sword fights have already taken place, in theory, you could write something concerning the boys. As you said, it is open ended and can be continued. Should be - if the grown ups are really interested in knowing what the bet was.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

Somewhere to the left of the Pacific Ocean, Foley. ;)

If people want to post ahead, it's alright. Anyway, my post concerning Randver will have to go back all the way to when Ginna and Degas were still fighting. Ooh, time problems. Will that work?

Oh, and Gwath - please have Crabannan ready to be approached while watching that match. :)

[Gwathagor]

Oh, and Gwath - please have Crabannan ready to be approached while watching that match. :)


I am interested to see where this is going. :cool:

[Folwren]

Okay...well...I'm sorry to be a nudge, but something needs to happen. Nogrod or Lommy? Do you want to kill more time and do more stuff with the boys? I'm game if you are.

-- Ellie

[littlemanpoet]

Normally I would say "let's let Lhuna post as soon as she can, retrospectively, and let's go ahead with the story," but I think what Rand does is going to be too pivotal, so I just feel that we have to wait. Sorry.

[Folwren]

Normally I would say "let's let Lhuna post as soon as she can, retrospectively, and let's go ahead with the story," but I think what Rand does is going to be too pivotal, so I just feel that we have to wait. Sorry.

Don't apologize. I've been waiting long enough for this, I don't mind waiting longer! I was worried that you'd be getting impatient, is all. :)

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

I was REALLY worried you would be impatient, too, Elempi. But here it is. Finally. Well, after I post it. :D

By the way, I hope you don't mind if I put words into Harreld's mouth. Let me know if it needs to be changed, please.

[Folwren]

Great! That was a wonderful post, Lhuna! This is exciting. :D

I thought you'd appreciate being told that you twice said 'her daughter' instead of 'his daughter' when talking about Ginna. In the first sentence of the second paragraph, and the last sentence in the third. :)

Does this mean that you'll be around more often a bit? *hopeful grin*

I won't be able to post for the next two days, but I doubt my characters will be called upon much, unless it were Saeryn.

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

Great! That was a wonderful post, Lhuna! This is exciting. :D

I thought you'd appreciate being told that you twice said 'her daughter' instead of 'his daughter' when talking about Ginna. In the first sentence of the second paragraph, and the last sentence in the third. :)

Does this mean that you'll be around more often a bit? *hopeful grin*

Thanks, Foley!

*facedesk* I guess that shows how haggard I was while writing that post. I shall go edit.

Of course I want always to be around, but it's not easy to find time for that lately. Perhaps once things pick up, I'll find that when there's a will, there's a way. ;)

[Lhunardawen]

Oh, and in case I had been way too vague, that was Crabannan whom Randvér approached. Gwath, you're up! ;)

[Gwathagor]

Oh, ok.

[Gwathagor]

Back to you, Lhuna.

[littlemanpoet]

I'm stuck. I want to post but can't until Lhuna does....again. Tedium is setting in.

LHUNA!!

[Lhunardawen]

I'm really sorry, I have 6 lab reports and 2 oral reports to work on for this week. I didn't think I could manage a post, but it was the all caps that did it. Thanks for the pressure, Elempi. And no, I'm not being sarcastic or biting or anything negative - I mean it. At least I know now that I really work well under pressure. :D

Anyway, I know my post veered away from what I told you before, but my original plan no longer fits the circumstances: Randvér would not talk to another person to point the smith out to him; it seems to me that there wouldn't be enough time anyway, as it didn't seem like a long match; and Ginna and Harreld's exchange would seem out of place if it followed a conversation between Harreld and Randvér. But don't worry, I still intend to have Randvér corner Harreld eventually before Ginna realises that he's around. How, I'm not yet quite sure.

[littlemanpoet]

Glad to have aided you, Lhuna. :p ;)

You have a "her daughter" where you want a "his daughter".

[Folwren]

Maybe Randver is Ginna's Mom in disguise. :p (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

-- Folwren

[Groin Redbeard]

Kath, just incase you haven't seen the post, Erbrand has asked Kara to dance with him. Whenever you are ready, you may post a reply.:)

[Lhunardawen]

I think Ginna's mum just can't shut up in her grave and keeps on channelling her baser motherly feelings towards her husband.

This was posted while finishing lab report number 5 and almost starting on oral report number 1, both of which are due in 5.5 hours. Writer just woke up from a nap and is still very sleepy.

Oh, quite needless to say, my brain's turned to mush right now so even if I would really really love to have Rand respond right at this moment, I can't. Please wait with me until a bit of my sanity returns. :Merisu:

[Kath]

Oh sorry Groin! (Ha, nearly called you Erbrand there. :p) I did see that but forgot in the meantime. I will try to get a reply up tonight or tomorrow. :)

[Thinlómien]

I've been neglecting this thread for a while (and if it comforts you guys, I have been neglecting all my other RPG commitments as well :rolleyes: ) but now I'm back and it all looks great. I'll see if there's anything interesting I can come up with for Modtryth, or if I can/want to continue with the boys&co. :)

[Folwren]

Okedokie! Lommy and Lhuna? Are you going to post? Please, please, please, please, please?

[littlemanpoet]

Lhuna asked me if she and I should do a PM built post, and I was fine with whatever she felt she needed. I haven't heard back yet. So we're waiting there.

[Folwren]

Oh, that sounds fun. I always like PM built posts.

[Lhunardawen]

Sorry, I got stuck with surprise work a while ago when I was supposed to think on it. I'm replying to your PM, Elempi. (Again, useless to say this here. :D)

EDIT: So what happened is that I've decided not to PM-build a post because that will take much longer than when we post straight to the thread, and I don't want to risk you all getting impatient.

[littlemanpoet]

I'll post for Eodwine later today. No time now.

[littlemanpoet]

Funny post, Foley. Just one problem: Eodwine has already introduced Rand and Saeryn to each other in my last post. I can either change that or you will need to alter your post ... unless you want Saeryn to have sudden short term memory loss...... ;)

[Folwren]

I had read your post. Really, I had. I got the impression that all he did was walk up to her and say to Rand, "I'm robbing the cradle." I thought Eodwine was just having a lapse of manners 'cause he was so excited. I guess I'll go back and read it again...

EDIT:

Ooooohhh! I see it now! That's funny, because when I first read your post, I saw it. And then when I re-read it to write a reply, I missed it and wrote according to my second reading. Bah humbug. I'll fix it.

[Thinlómien]

:( I haven't managed to do anything and now it looks like I'm going to be busy again... blah... I will try to take time for this RPG because I feel stupid since I'm being so inactive.

[Thinlómien]

Hey, Foley and LMP,

would it occur to Saeryn or Eodwine to charge Modtryth with some arrangements?

After all, she's been some jack-of-all-trades household organiser and she is not needed in the kitchens like the other women are.

If you drag her into this mess somehow ;) I will be forced to write for her. Otherwise I can always excuse myself by saying "I'm busy and the Mead Hall can do without Modtryth for a while". :rolleyes:

[Folwren]

Sure! It'll occur to one of them. :D We really want you to post. :p

[Groin Redbeard]

Perhaps Lithor could use her to help in the ceremonial stuff like carrying a standard, sword, or something along those lines. I'll look into what else needs to be done for the wedding. If any of y'all come up with a better idea you can post. I'm just thinking out loud here. :smokin: I'll get back to you on this.

[littlemanpoet]

We could make Modtryth the wedding organizer! :) Put her in charge! ... at least, of the women's side of it. This actually makes sense because Modtryth is probably the only woman in Scarburg who has been through a marriage. Rowenna is hopelessly uninformed as to what is involved on the women's side for marriage, so there you have it.

[Thinlómien]

Aieeeeeeeee :eek::D

Okay, you just have to inform me which customs you've picked... ;)

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, here's my take on this Eorling wedding.

Dress - whatever Saeryn has available will have to do on short notice.

Something blue - both Saeryn and Eodwine have blue eyes ( I think )- that will have to suffice. :p

Cake - Eodwine wouldn't put Frodides through such a battle on short notice, so whatever Frodides chooses to do on her own initiative must suffice.

Rings - Eodwine has presented a ring to Saeryn already. What Saeryn wishes to do about this is up to her.

Grooms' ancestral sword - Never really thought about Eodwine's sword, but since he is of the Eorlingas (a knight), he would have one from his father's father's father's (etc.). So we can work with that.

New sword - Eodwine intends to speak of this with Saeryn and see what Harreld either has available or can do; it need not be on short notice - Harreld can smith a new sword that may be ready in a month's time or something.

Wedding trip - Um, we're there already. :p

Hallowing of the site - we will keep to Tolkien's precedent and keep religious references out of it.

Exchange of handgeld and bridegift (otherwise known as dowry and brideprice) - This has already been decided upon and will be announced at the wedding with appropriate oaths spoken.

Wedding Oath - this is something that can be worked out here - other writers are quite welcome to make suggestions.

keys - as there is no door nor lock - only tents as of yet - there cannot be keys, at least for the rite - but they will be taken care of later when house and home are built.

relations of the bride & groom - Degas will give Saeryn away. There is no mother of bride nor groom at Scarburg, but Modtryth could stand in for mother of the bride. We can forego parents for the eorl.

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Feel free to add your two cents (or more).

[Lhunardawen]

It's my fault for disappearing again, but I need a little favour, Elempi. Do you mind if you take Randvér with Eodwine when he goes to see Harreld, instead of letting him look for Ginna? I was hoping to let Rand and Harreld talk that way. ;)

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, Rand will stick with Eodwine for a while. I'll fix my last post.

Post edited, with a smidgeon of heightened tension. ;)

[Lhunardawen]

Thanks, Elempi. :)

Ooh, I'm so tempted to post with Randvér saying something like, "Indeed? And what must I know about this Harreld?" while in truth he's thinking How come you never mentioned him, Eodwine? But I think I'll just let him go straight to the smith. Better that way; Harreld gets no warning whatsoever. :D

[Folwren]

Ha! There, I've posted, and brought it right up to the point of conflict (or at least where conflict can begin). Not to mention, I've brought Modtryth's name into the mix, so we're preparing to drag Lommy into the preparations.

[Gwathagor]

Poor Harreld! I know exactly how he feels. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Lhuna!

Hey Lhuna!

Oh LooooOOOOOOOna!

It's your turn. Please take it soon. Like real soon.

Is that enough pressure? :p

Or would it help if I threaten to write Rand for you and make him be intimidated by Harreld and take a liking to him and offer his daughter to be Harreld's bride? :D

[Folwren]

Or would it help if I threaten to write Rand for you and make him be intimidated by Harreld and take a liking to him and offer his daughter to be Harreld's bride? :D

Oh, that would be SO not fun! I hope you can post soon, Lhuna. :D

[Groin Redbeard]

If it is alright, I'll have a post up for Lithor and his gang later tonight. They can get started with putting up all the stuff for the wedding. Unless there are any objections, I'll have the gang turn to Modryth for directions.;)

[Thinlómien]

Aiee you guys truly are dragging me into this. :D The only problem is that I can't write anything now (and I've been terribly busy with... partying :D since school's ending - in a way, a long thing to explain) and I'm going to a summer cottage tomorrow to lock myself up to stufy for my final exams... but I'll be back for the weekend so I can write on Friday or Saturday. I hope that's not too late. :)

PS. Nog says you'll hear from him in a day or two.

[littlemanpoet]

If it is alright, I'll have a post up for Lithor and his gang later tonight. They can get started with putting up all the stuff for the wedding. Unless there are any objections, I'll have the gang turn to Modryth for directions.;)
Perfect, Groin! :) And you can put words in Modtryth's mouth unless Lommy posts before you do. :p

[Lhunardawen]

Really no pressure there, Elempi. :p

I'm really sorry, I'm having crazy weeks left until graduation, what with med school interviews and thesis and lots of lab reports and other things I would not enumerate for your sake. I'll try to post before this week ends. No promises, but I'll do my best. Sorry guys.

[Kath]

Sorry for the delay there Groin! RL struck.

[Groin Redbeard]

Sorry for the delay there Groin! RL struck.

That dratted RL. Thankfully, RL has no precedence in the land of the dead!:D

I have gotten a post up for Lithor, but not yet for Erbrand. I will try and get his up as soon as possible Kath.:)

[Thinlómien]

Just letting you know I'm here and I'll post now during the weekend. :)

But before that it would be helpful if you LMP (and Folwren) would brief me about which traditions you've picked and what you want the Rohanian wedding to consist of. :)

[littlemanpoet]

But before that it would be helpful if you LMP (and Folwren) would brief me about which traditions you've picked and what you want the Rohanian wedding to consist of. :)Please see post # 1380 for my 2 cents.

[Thinlómien]

Please see post # 1380 for my 2 cents.Sorry LMP - somehow I just missed that post. :( My bad. I'll get familiar with it now. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

I'll be gone for the next two days on a weekend hiking trip. Lommy, I will get a response up for Lithor and the boys as soon as I come back. That is, of course, if you have posted.;) I will also get a post up for Erbrand. I'm sorry Kath, my turn to not to write.:(

[Groin Redbeard]

I edited the beginning of my RPG post for Erbrand's response to Kara.:)

[Thinlómien]

I hope that what I wrote is ok. If it's not, you can ignore the un-ok parts and I can edit once I come back, ie next weekend. :)

[Kath]

Found your post Groin and replied to it. :)

[Folwren]

I posted, but it is a rather ambiguous post. I didn't want to put any words or ideas into Modtryth's or Eodwine's mouths, and hence I said very little. :confused:

And so, I decided I should put my ideas here so that people can add to them or modify them at will!

The lantern idea I had Saeryn mention was something like this:

I can picture the lanters being set up on tall poles (about four to five feet high). They can either be arranged in rows, making aisles that go up and down, where (in a modern wedding) the bride might walk up between them. Or, they could be in a circle and the ceremony and the witnesses/guests/spectators (what are they called at weddings?) would stand within the ring of lanterns. Then we can have torches born by some of the men in a half circle around Eodwine and Saeryn as they exchange their vows.

I think both Saeryn and Rowenna should wear veils. I have no idea if it would be appropriate in Rohan, but I have heard (and I rather like the legend) that the bride and her bridesmaids would wear veils so that the fairies and evil spirits wouldn't know which woman was the bride, so they couldn't spirit her away!

This might be silly, but after the hand-fasting, as they walk back up through the people, can all the men at arms unsheath their swords and form an arch or a lane over the newly weds?

Should the people have rice or something to throw at them as they run back through?

After the celebration and feast and when all the dancing and fun is over, can Eodwine and Saeryn ride off somewhere? I just like the idea of galloping off in the middle of the night on horseback.

That's all I can think of at this point.

I still don't know what to do about a ring for Eodwine.

[Groin Redbeard]

Nice work on your post Kath! If it is alright with you, I am going to have Erbrand and Kara (almost wrote Kath:rolleyes:) involved in a conversation with LMP's new character. Perhaps they can discover some new facts about him. I will get a post up for Erbrand, plus Lithor and his boys, tomorrow.

Should the people have rice or something to throw at them as they run back through?
Funny you should mention that, Folwren. In Anglo Saxon culture, it was the tradition to throw grain at the wedded couple as a sign of fertility.

I like your ideas, Folwren. You're becoming very romantic in your writing.;)

[Folwren]

I like your ideas, Folwren. You're becoming very romantic in your writing.;)

I'm a young, unmarried woman, aint I? Of course I'm romantic! :p
Just be glad I didn't put down ALL I thought when I said I liked the idea of them riding off after the celebration. :Merisu: (Now you all probably have terrible thoughts about me - just forget I said anything.)

[Groin Redbeard]

Just be glad I didn't put down ALL I thought when I said I liked the idea of them riding off after the celebration. :Merisu: (Now you all probably have terrible thoughts about me - just forget I said anything.)Darn it! If Eodwine had brought forward his proposal a few hours earlier Saeryn and him could have ridden off into the sunset!:D

[Folwren]

Darn it! If Eodwine had brought forward his proposal a few hours earlier Saeryn and him could have ridden off into the sunset!:D

I thought about that, too. :D No such luck.

[littlemanpoet]

I like every one of your ideas for the wedding, Foley - just let's make it grain instead of rice, ok?

And my new character, Eodwemer, can serve as the wedding solemnizer, being the eldest person present.

One question - do you want the riding romp (in which the wedding pair have to outrace everybody else) to happen before or after the dancing and riddling? By the by, if the chasers can be on horseback for the chase, then the best man and best woman must serve as rearguard. This could be fun! :D

EDIT: Oh, and let's make it a circle as they didn't have churches with aisles. ;)

[Folwren]

I like every one of your ideas for the wedding, Foley - just let's make it grain instead of rice, ok?

Fine by me! I wasn't sure what it'd be.

And my new character, Eodwemer, can serve as the wedding solemnizer, being the eldest person present.

Great...I guess...Ha. I don't know. If that's the custom. My only hesitance is the fact that nobody knows him.

One question - do you want the riding romp (in which the wedding pair have to outrace everybody else) to happen before or after the dancing and riddling? By the by, if the chasers can be on horseback for the chase, then the best man and best woman must serve as rearguard. This could be fun! :D

Oh, I LOVE it! You're brilliant, Elempi!

How 'bout before the dancing and riddling. What if right after they ceremony (I'm calling it that for conveniences sake - I've no idea if it will be called that in the story), in the mad dash through the blinding grain, Eodwine and Saeryn run to where Leof has their horses. They mount, and then someone shouts, "To your horses everyone!" And everyone runs to a horse and leaps on (bareback?) Eodwine and Saeryn should share a mount. This way, their horse will be slowed. But they'll have a head start, and everyone else will be bareback, which may make things more chaotic and fun, and maybe make some of them less capable of riding quickly? Anyway, the goal is to catch them and bring them back for their feast and the rest of the evening festivities.

What d'ye think of that? It was just an idea that popped into my head when you said your bit, Elempi - we don't have to do it by any means.

Edit: Oh, and yeah, a ring is great. I liked that idea better myself.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Great...I guess...Ha. I don't know. If that's the custom. My only hesitance is the fact that nobody knows him.Wise men usually had such honor. I'll have to post more for him to bring out the "wise man" side of him, though "wizard" sort of does that anyway.

How 'bout before the dancing and riddling. What if right after they ceremony (I'm calling it that for conveniences sake - I've no idea if it will be called that in the story), in the mad dash through the blinding grain, Eodwine and Saeryn run to where Leof has their horses. They mount, and then someone shouts, "To your horses everyone!" And everyone runs to a horse and leaps on (bareback?) Eodwine and Saeryn should share a mount. This way, their horse will be slowed. But they'll have a head start, and everyone else will be bareback, which may make things more chaotic and fun, and maybe make some of them less capable of riding quickly? Anyway, the goal is to catch them and bring them back for their feast and the rest of the evening festivities.

What d'ye think of that? It was just an idea that popped into my head when you said your bit, Elempi - we don't have to do it by any means.Perfect! :)

[Gwathagor]

You guys are having so much fun. :) It's nice to watch.

[littlemanpoet]

Looking over the post quoted below as well as feedback since, here's how it seems to be shaping up:

Up to and including the rite

Eodwine and Saeryn check in with Frodides to discuss expectations, namely that Frodides is not expected to make a cake on short notice, she may do whatever she wishes.
Modtryth and other will decorate the area chosen for the handfasting.
Eodwine, Saeryn, Degas, Thornden, and Rowenna will plan the rite.
Eodwine, being the groom, will decide that it's impossible for him to preside over his own handfasting, and casting about for a likely fellow will settle on the wizard as presider. Not much will be expected of him except requesting oaths, symbols (including the symbolic kiss), and announcement.
Rite
The people gather in the circle
Eodwine welcomes the people
Eodwemer calls for the bride
Saeryn and Rowenna come into the circle, Saeryn on Degas' arm and Rowenna on Thornden's, the women veiled and flowered.
Ring oath spoken and symbols exchanged
Handgeld and bridegift oaths spoken
Sword oath spoken & swords exchanged
Symbolic "jump" over the .... rope?
symbolic kiss
union announcedAfter the rite

Ride-romp
feast with Lithor presiding
dance
riddles
rite of crossing the thresholdThere, did I miss anything?

Okay, here's my take on this Eorling wedding.

Dress - whatever Saeryn has available will have to do on short notice.

Something blue - both Saeryn and Eodwine have blue eyes ( I think )- that will have to suffice. :p

Cake - Eodwine wouldn't put Frodides through such a battle on short notice, so whatever Frodides chooses to do on her own initiative must suffice.

Rings - Eodwine has presented a ring to Saeryn already. What Saeryn wishes to do about this is up to her.

Grooms' ancestral sword - Never really thought about Eodwine's sword, but since he is of the Eorlingas (a knight), he would have one from his father's father's father's (etc.). So we can work with that.

New sword - Eodwine intends to speak of this with Saeryn and see what Harreld either has available or can do; it need not be on short notice - Harreld can smith a new sword that may be ready in a month's time or something.

Wedding trip - Um, we're there already. :p

Exchange of handgeld and bridegift (otherwise known as dowry and brideprice) - This has already been decided upon and will be announced at the wedding with appropriate oaths spoken.

Wedding Oath - this is something that can be worked out here - other writers are quite welcome to make suggestions.

keys - as there is no door nor lock - only tents as of yet - there cannot be keys, at least for the rite - but they will be taken care of later when house and home are built.

relations of the bride & groom - Degas will give Saeryn away. There is no mother of bride nor groom at Scarburg, but Modtryth could stand in for mother of the bride. We can forego parents for the eorl.

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Feel free to add your two cents (or more).

[Folwren]

Sounds fine, Elempi. I guess we still have to wait on Lhuna before we can really continue with the evening, right? It's probably just as well - I am swamped with school that I've been unintentionally procrastinating on. :eek:

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I agree, Foley. Not that the situation between Rand and Ginna and Harreld needs to be resolved quickly. Rather, it needs to gain some kind of focus and a point at which it can remain in tension while the wedding ensues. Make sense?

LOOOOOONA!

[littlemanpoet]

I hate to say it but we may have to go ahead with things and let the Rand-Ginna-Harreld bit be posted retrospectively. Carry on!

[Folwren]

I hate to say it but we may have to go ahead with things and let the Rand-Ginna-Harreld bit be posted retrospectively. Carry on!

That's fine. But too bad. Well, I posted last, so someone else take a turn.

[Folwren]

I hope to make a reply tomorrow, Elempi. That's if I can find a lull in my school work.

[littlemanpoet]

Looks like Eodwemer is being conversed with. :) I will post a response as soon as opportunity allows.

[Thinlómien]

Sorry, I've been terribly busy with final exams but I should be able to post next weekend at the latest... :)

[littlemanpoet]

In the words of "Pink",

"Is anybody out there

out there

out there

out there....?"

[Folwren]

I am. I didn't figure I should post, though. Is Kath about to post for Frodides? Or Lommy? Well, Lommy said she'd be back as soon as finals were over, so I guess she'll be returning sometime soon...

What about Lhuna? Spring break is coming up for a lot of people - maybe that'll give us some slack to work with.

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

I'll get a post up soon for Erbrand in response to Eodwemer.

[Lhunardawen]

What about Lhuna? Spring break is coming up for a lot of people - maybe that'll give us some slack to work with.

-- Foley

Lhuna is trying to graduate on time so as not to waste her slot in med school. For the meantime, please carry on without her. :(

[Thinlómien]

I'll post for Modtryth this weekend - unless Groin posts first or has objections, I will have the soldiers coming back from their little plant-gathering trip. :)

[Kath]

Posted! Randomly but I was around. Hope it's alright.

[Formendacil]

Posted! Randomly but I was around. Hope it's alright.

Ooooh!

Not to steal Erbrand from Groin, but I seem to recall that he's not a big fan of the last jack-of-all-trades to show up at Scarburg (Crabannan). Jumping to bad conclusions with funny consequences, p'raps?:p

*disappears back to the hideout from whence he came*

[Groin Redbeard]

Ooooh!

Not to steal Erbrand from Groin, but I seem to recall that he's not a big fan of the last jack-of-all-trades to show up at Scarburg (Crabannan). Jumping to bad conclusions with funny consequences, p'raps?

*disappears back to the hideout from whence he came*Haha!:D I thought of that when Eodwemer started making those "advances";) towards Kara. I'll definitely get a post up! Absolutely thrilling!:D

[Groin Redbeard]

I got a post up for Erbrand and Lithor. I did it in a rush so I'm sure I could have done a better job if I waited. Still, better to get something up than nothing at all. That reminds me, nice post Lommy.:) Good to see you back in action

[Folwren]

Keep Thornden single! Poor man! Actually, he doesn't seem to mind too much. :D That post cracked me up, Groin.

Well, things seem to be getting down to the time. When do we do the wedding?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'm trying to build a PM built post with Lhuna. Basically, I've written a lot of stuff for Rand, Harreld, and Ginna, but I want her to see it before I post it. Still waiting.... After that I'm ready to go. Give me a day or two.

[Folwren]

I'm trying to build a PM built post with Lhuna. Basically, I've written a lot of stuff for Rand, Harreld, and Ginna, but I want her to see it before I post it. Still waiting.... After that I'm ready to go. Give me a day or two.

No rush. I'm not impatient, really. Just want to make sure that things do stall and so long as someone is working on something, it's not stalling. :)

I will be leaving Friday and not coming back until Monday the 30th, and I doubt I'll be able to post at all during that time.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Well, Lhuna approved of at least the first half of it. She provided Ginna's reply to Rand. I'm guilty of everything else. :p

Now at last I feel like I can move on with the wedding .... except that Rand may have other ideas. :rolleyes: :D

[Thinlómien]

LMP, that post was seriously cute. :D

[Groin Redbeard]

except that Rand may have other ideas. :DWell no wedding is perfect. All the marriages that last seem to have something go wrong with wedding. Perhaps a little arson would be appropriate!:D

Seriously though, wonderful post LMP.:)

[Lhunardawen]

Well no wedding is perfect. All the marriages that last seem to have something go wrong with wedding. Perhaps a little arson would be appropriate!:D
If that DOES happen, it wouldn't be Randvér's fault, just so we're clear. :p

I love love love it, Elempi. If I didn't know better I would hand Rand over to you. ;) I can't wait to be free from these crazy requirements and start really writing again.

[littlemanpoet]

Not sure what "seriously cute" means, but I'll accept the compliment. :D

I'm very happy Lhuna that you're okay with it.

Hmmm.... how is it that so many of my characters get 'hitched'? ;)

[Gwathagor]

Hmmm.... how is it that so many of my characters get 'hitched'? ;)

Hitched or dead...now that's interesting.

[Formendacil]

Hmmm.... how is it that so many of my characters get 'hitched'? ;)

Clearly, Elempi, you are a latter-day Shakespeare, writing comedies, and as we draw to the end of your story, you feel need to "pair the spares." If we let you, you'd probably end up wedding everyone in one fell swoop--or at least one mass troth-taking.:p

[littlemanpoet]

Clearly, Elempi, you are a latter-day Shakespeare, writing comedies, and as we draw to the end of your story, you feel need to "pair the spares." If we let you, you'd probably end up wedding everyone in one fell swoop--or at least one mass troth-taking.
Now that .... might be fun! :D But Shakespeare! :eek: You speak too well of my humble talents. Honest. But thanks. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, I've put words in the mouths of three characters not my own, Kath, Foley, and Lhuna. Please let me know if anything needs changing.

And Foley, Eodwine has posed a question to Saeryn, which makes it your turn.

[Kath]

Works for me! :)

[Lhunardawen]

Seriously Elempi, that was such an insensitive comment, coming from a "friend." :p

I'd hate to be Randvér just now. I think he's about to blow an artery. :eek:

[littlemanpoet]

Ever notice how people can be so full of their own happiness they can't even relate to someone else's problems? That's Eodwine right now. Everything looks bright and sunny to him, so he just assumes everyone else is as happy as he; and if not, then he'll do his best to be as sunny as possible to help them become so. The only thing that could change it would be some tragic catastrophe. Which I'm NOT suggesting...., so do not feel compelled to go there! :)

I can write more of Rand if you like, Lhuna, or maybe Foley can if she cares to.

[Folwren]

Woah! I'm glad I checked this when I did! Tomorrow, I'm leaving on a camping trip, lasting until Thursday, and you all know what that means.

That post was very funny, Elempi! You had me laughing out loud, seriously.

I will do my best to post something tonight, but I can not promise absolutely. Poor Rand.

-- Folwren

P.S. By the bye, I don't know if I'll write for Rand. He's not even remotely my character, whereas he is remotely yours, Elempi. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Hello?



...... empty chamber echoes ......

[Nogrod]

Hello?

...... empty chamber echoes ......So true.

I have been really pressed by reality the last month - and just as I would have had more time a totally insane WW-game sucked me in for the last week (wondering about my avatar, blame Sally and her game...).

But now that is ending and I'll be back in the fray.

Even though I must say that as Stigend I have no major role to play in the general plot. Having a character who is just a plain modest carpenter relatively new to the household is not likely to lead scenarios like weddings... :)

But I'll come up with something minor anyway.

[littlemanpoet]

I would have had more time a totally insane WW-game sucked me in for the last week I knew it. Without even taking a peek. I just knew it. No biggy, I'm back to doing my own writing so it's nice not to be using up my creative energies here so much.... ;)

[Folwren]

I knew it. Without even taking a peek. I just knew it. No biggy, I'm back to doing my own writing so it's nice not to be using up my creative energies here so much.... ;)

Well, that's not my excuse. I've been 800 miles from home for the past week and a half and camping half that time...

And now I'm plunged back, behind in school and with a test coming tomorrow.

will post as soon as possible.

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Well, that's not my excuse. I've been 800 miles from home for the past week and a half and camping half that time...Sweet, I love doing that stuff!:D

I'll get a post up for Lithor and possibly Erbrand as well. Do not be surprised if I don't get it up until Monday.;)

[Lhunardawen]

I, on the other hand, am struggling horribly with thesis, with the minute possibility of not graduating on time looming in the distance - not that I'm considering the idea.

[littlemanpoet]

Double posted.

[Folwren]

Uh-oh. I guess that means we're all far behind.

I'll buckle down and write something today - I promise. Need to do about two hours worth of studying first, and then I'll do it.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

I guess that qualifies as a post. A right fiery one, too.

Elempi (and Lhuna, if you're anywhere around), let me know if I stepped out of any bounds.

That was fun to write. :)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Yeeeowtch! :D Saeryn's personality has most certainly changed. :D Which is not a problem. Write it down to knowing where she belongs in the world.

Eodwine not think before he speaks?!? Maybe not on this his wedding day - so much - but if that's what Saeryn thinks of him, they are in for one interesting marriage. :D

I'm tempted to post a "Rand, buddy, what my future wife means to say is..." But I think I need to figure out what Rand thinks now first, unless Lhuna would like to do that instead? I'll wait a few days.

By the way, I've taken a second job which calls me away on Thursday and Friday nights and the best part of Saturdays - 18 hours a week. This of course cuts into my fun time etc., so that is part of why I too have been somewhat scarce of late. Don't know how long this will last, but one must pay the bills and all that....

[Folwren]

Yeeeowtch! :D Saeryn's personality has most certainly changed. :D Which is not a problem. Write it down to knowing where she belongs in the world.

Oh, had she? Whoops. I thought I had a grasp of her character, but I keep messing up. I thought she was quick tempered like this sometimes...? I don't know.

Eodwine not think before he speaks?!? Maybe not on this his wedding day - so much - but if that's what Saeryn thinks of him, they are in for one interesting marriage.

Well, it seemed to me that Eodwine hadn't thought before saying "Wonderful match". I mean, honestly...Rand was just furious, and it was obvious.
Too bad you won't stick around to see if their marriage IS interesting. I sure hope it is.

By the way, I've taken a second job which calls me away on Thursday and Friday nights and the best part of Saturdays - 18 hours a week. This of course cuts into my fun time etc., so that is part of why I too have been somewhat scarce of late. Don't know how long this will last, but one must pay the bills and all that....

K. We understand. And if we didn't, we'd have no room to complain, seeing as none of us have posted much recently anyway. :o

[littlemanpoet]

Oh, had she? Whoops. I thought I had a grasp of her character, but I keep messing up. I thought she was quick tempered like this sometimes...? I don't know.That's not what I meant. Quick tempered she can sometimes be. But the subject matter is different; and it's okay. If you beat yourself up I will kill off Eodwine. So don't you dare.

Well, it seemed to me that Eodwine hadn't thought before saying "Wonderful match". I mean, honestly...Rand was just furious, and it was obvious. Too bad you won't stick around to see if their marriage IS interesting. I sure hope it is. Eodwine is saying exactly what he thinks. ;) He doesn't mind if it sets Rand on his heels, because he thinks Rand OUGHT to be set on his heels; except that it's funny, Saeryn almost apologizing for Eodwine, then proceeding to not merely set Rand on his heels but virtually throw him on his keester! :D

K. We understand. And if we didn't, we'd have no room to complain, seeing as none of us have posted much recently anyway. :oDon't feel bad. Instead, post!

[Gwathagor]

If you beat yourself up I will kill off Eodwine. So don't you dare.



Ha ha. He will, too!

[Formendacil]

I don't know... I'm enough of a fan of tragic stories that Eodwine suffering a massive heart attack and dying on his wedding night strikes me as preciously ripe story matter--and what better way for Elempi to not be tempted to return to the Mead Hall once he moves on? Oh yes, this plan has potential.:p

[Gwathagor]

Assassinated by Scyld!

[Folwren]

:eek:

I don't know... I'm enough of a fan of tragic stories that Eodwine suffering a massive heart attack and dying on his wedding night strikes me as preciously ripe story matter--and what better way for Elempi to not be tempted to return to the Mead Hall once he moves on? Oh yes, this plan has potential.

What are you saying? No! No! Elempi, I promise I'll never beat myself up over Saeryn's character ever again! Please don't kill Eodwine!

[littlemanpoet]

:eek: What are you saying? No! No! Elempi, I promise I'll never beat myself up over Saeryn's character ever again! Please don't kill Eodwine!Snicker. :) I would, too, so I'll hold you to that. Thanks guys for your imaginative assistance. :D

EDIT: Nogrod: just a nicety of the English language: "hanged" is something that happens to someone, with a rope around one's neck, to the death. "hung" is a more generic term that can be used accuratley when referring to someone having "hung around".

[Firefoot]

Assassinated by Scyld!:eek: I wonder what would have to happen to tip that off...

[Nogrod]

EDIT: Nogrod: just a nicety of the English language: "hanged" is something that happens to someone, with a rope around one's neck, to the death. "hung" is a more generic term that can be used accuratley when referring to someone having "hung around".Oops... let's not speculate about killing any more people... :) I'll go change that.

[Lhunardawen]

Okay, so this girl is definitely graduating and should be back on board, if you still want her. Please give her some time to re-acclimatise herself to the Mead Hall, though.

[Folwren]

Okay, so this girl is definitely graduating and should be back on board, if you still want her. Please give her some time to re-acclimatise herself to the Mead Hall, though.

Oh, yes, we still want you! The more the merrier! There's been some interesting stuff going on lately...

When is graduation?

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

When is graduation?

-- Folwren

The 26th. :)

[Nogrod]

Congrats Lhuna!

That's something worth celebrating indeed!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Sigh... Everybody graduates before me...

But Lhuna: I totally told you so. :p

[Folwren]

Sigh... Everybody graduates before me...


I bet you'll graduate before me. :D

[Lhunardawen]

Congrats Lhuna!

That's something worth celebrating indeed!
Thanks, Nogrod! :)

Sigh... Everybody graduates before me...
It's just the geographical-cultural difference; within the country, my university is probably the last to hold its graduation ceremonies. Anyway I'm sure that for the next phase of our respective academic lives, you'll graduate before I do. ;)

But Lhuna: I totally told you so.
Yes, yes, you did. Thanks for the encouragement. :)


PS. Now you should graduate on time, Fea. Remember our deal?

[Thinlómien]

Seems like everything is progressing nicely. I'll write something for Modtryth or Cnebba within a week. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Double posted again.

[Groin Redbeard]

Alright, I have a dilemma with RL that is very pressing at the moment. However, I have noticed that none of my characters have any pressing matters at the moment and that writing for them would simply be for fun. However, I have something planned for the toMorrow; if we can get to that soon I will have a purpose for posting.;) Should we start the wedding soon, or should we keep up with the Harreld thing (loving his whole drama as well)?:D

[Thinlómien]

Cnebba and Garmund are looking for trouble again. :smokin:

Anyone, feel free to be the approaching trouble and continue as you will. :D

[Lhunardawen]

So now that I'm caught up, I'm trying to figure out how to dive back in. Hmmm, Ginna and Harreld can't be too far away not to hear Cnebba and Garmund's mischief. I'll try to write something about that - tomorrow.

By the way, I was patently surprised by Rand's outburst in your post, Foley, but it's fine - you had him tell the truth, after all. I'm looking forward to the chance to expound on that after the wedding.

[Nogrod]

Haha! That was fun Lommy.

It would be more fun if someone else than me or Lommy answered to that post - like Lhuna if you can. It would mean more interaction.

Groin: feel free to write about the soldiers working with Garstan and Stigend with the platform. I'll answer your post if you make one - unless we're hurrying up with the generals proceedings that is.

[Folwren]

By the way, I was patently surprised by Rand's outburst in your post, Foley, but it's fine - you had him tell the truth, after all. I'm looking forward to the chance to expound on that after the wedding.

Sorry. I can't say any more than that or Elempi (almost called him Eodwine) will get on me for beating myself up and will kill his character.

I can change it, just like I would for anyone else's character that I mishandled.

-- Folwren

[Groin Redbeard]

Groin: feel free to write about the soldiers working with Garstan and Stigend with the platform. I'll answer your post if you make one - unless we're hurrying up with the generals proceedings that is.Thanks Nogrod, I put a post up for Erbrand and Lithor. It was self centered for the most part, but I hope that it will put a new twist on the whole Kara & Erbrand situation.:D You are up, Nogrod!

[Thinlómien]

Oh, things are going on nicely. I may write for lil' Cnebster soon, unless big ol' Nogster insists on doing it. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Oh, things are going on nicely. I may write for lil' Cnebster soon, unless big ol' Nogster insists on doing it. :)

Wait a minute, I called for the Nogster first!:D:p

[Thinlómien]

Wait a minute, I called for the Nogster first!:D:pNo problem, I'd prefer to write for Cnebba myself, so you can have him unless he protests... ;)

[Thinlómien]

I felt like writing, so I took Mr Nogster's right to interfere away from him and continued... I don't think he'll be too grieved.

My post is short because I didn't want to put too much words to Ginna's mouth, and also, I'd prefer to see what her real writer will make her say/do now, or what Harreld's real writer will interfere with... looking forward to it. ;)

[Nogrod]

No problem, I'd prefer to write for Cnebba myself, so you can have him unless he protests... ;)No protests... I'll write something tomorrow for Stigend & co.

Quite a challenging situation you got Stigend in, Groin! :)

But that's appreciated!

[Nogrod]

I should never promise anything definitive in the RPG's... It looks like everytime I make a definitive promise I'm forced to eat my words... :(

But my net-access failed yesterday and today I have been busy from early morning up to now - and it's bedtime. I'll come back to this "in a few days" (I hope that is vague enough). Sorry.

[littlemanpoet]

Your turn Foley.

[Thinlómien]

LMP, let me know if I've mishandled Eodwemer or if you want me to change some of his sayings to more "Old English-ish" form and I'll be happy to edit... :)

What is there to write anymore before we can move on to the actual wedding ceremony? Foley's reply to LMP and Nog's reply to Groin? Anything else?

[littlemanpoet]

LMP, let me know if I've mishandled Eodwemer or if you want me to change some of his sayings to more "Old English-ish" form and I'll be happy to edit... :)

What is there to write anymore before we can move on to the actual wedding ceremony? Foley's reply to LMP and Nog's reply to Groin? Anything else?

Great post, Lommy! I wouldn't change a thing.

And yes, I think you have the rights of it on what needs to happen now.

..... and then the riddle game! :)

[Nogrod]

What is there to write anymore before we can move on to the actual wedding ceremony? Foley's reply to LMP and Nog's reply to Groin? Anything else?I'll try to have mine done today. Not that Stigend would know much about courting... but he needs to answer anyway.

[Folwren]

What is there to write anymore before we can move on to the actual wedding ceremony? Foley's reply to LMP and Nog's reply to Groin? Anything else?

I'll get my post up as soon as I have a spare moment. Not had many of those lately....

[littlemanpoet]

That's a looooong time not to have a spare moment.

It's been more than a week since someone posted. If someone doesn't post by the next time (at least a day) I have a chance to check, I'm going to do a summarizing post for the wedding, chase, dance, supper, riddles, and Day, all in one fell swoop. You have been warned.

[Groin Redbeard]

That's a looooong time not to have a spare moment.

It's been more than a week since someone posted. If someone doesn't post by the next time (at least a day) I have a chance to check, I'm going to do a summarizing post for the wedding, chase, dance, supper, riddles, and Day, all in one fell swoop. You have been warned.

I'm finishing up my term paper tonight and then I get my Latin final test finished on Friday. After that I am all yours!:D I will get a post up for Erbrand, possibly tonight.

[Thinlómien]

It looks like Foley has just been delayed, nothing criminal in that, I should think.

And everybody else seems to be waiting for her.

As for my characters - it would be pointless to continue from where I left Modtryth before something happens, and I don't think there's anything in Cnebba's story that needs to be written, in fact, I think it's better as it is before Harreld talks with his parents.

[Nogrod]

That's a looooong time not to have a spare moment.

It's been more than a week since someone posted. If someone doesn't post by the next time (at least a day) I have a chance to check, I'm going to do a summarizing post for the wedding, chase, dance, supper, riddles, and Day, all in one fell swoop. You have been warned.That's a bit hard way to handle this even if I can both understand and share your disapproval of the slow pace this thread has taken of late.

But it's after all a question of waiting for one post while we others have little to say that would make any sense or further the general plot.

Sure we could start building up new things and plotlines but those would then hinder the progress as we should have to wait for them to unfold before we can advance with this after Foley's post is in.

Oh and sorry, no pressure Foley! :)

But really, we're just in a sticky situation where Foley seemingly has a lot to do and unfortunately we need to wait for her to post before advancing.

Or could we use a "save" there and fill it afterwards and then get going with the storyline as planned.

The problem with at least me and Lommy is that our characters are such minor players in the story that they will not be naturally triggering new things - at least in a situation where everyone is waiting for certain things to happen. Were the future open to anything we might come up with we could bring in however silly ideas or new twists to disrupt the smooth going of things but now I'm afraid is not the time for it as we all wish to make this party together.

EDIT: (werewolf-style instinct) X'posted with Lommy... and agreed!

[littlemanpoet]

The problem with at least me and Lommy is that our characters are such minor players in the story that they will not be naturally triggering new things - at least in a situation where everyone is waiting for certain things to happen. Were the future open to anything we might come up with we could bring in however silly ideas or new twists to disrupt the smooth going of things but now I'm afraid is not the time for it as we all wish to make this party together.Come now. You make it sound like an accident that your characters are not being put forward by their writers because "there's nothing to write at this point". Gobtwiddle I say! If you wanted to, you could come up with something.

But you all really do take me a bit too seriously sometimes.... :D

I sort of never really intended to fulflil my threat. Actually, I would have written the post and then retracted it .... just for the fun of it. I was actually angling for a reaction, just to spark things up. You may all smooth your ruffled feathers now..... :p

[Folwren]

To quote my favorite professor:

"I'm sorry! Love me?"

No, really, I haven't had a spare moment. I mean, no, I have. *scratches head* Just not a spare moment while on the computer. Even now I haven't a spare moment. I have to go to bed now.

The pressure is on, I know, even if you all didn't mean it. Tell you what, I promise to get up a post this Sunday, AT THE LATEST! I will strive hard to get one up sooner. Next time I'm tempted to watch a Hogan's Heros I will post something on the Meadhall thread first.

Bye!

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

The wife and I are off to Kentucky for a week's vacation and I do not foresee having computer access. I expect to be back Saturday night. Carry on!

[littlemanpoet]

I'm back.

And I have double posted.

I am frankly astounded by that.

Maybe I shouldn't be.

Why has nothing happened in the last 7 days?

I'm beginning to think that no one is really interested in this and it might as well not continue.

So is this still worth the time and energy I'm putting into it?

If so, please prove it to me.

You know how.

[Folwren]

Did you remove your double post, because I don't see it?

And that is really very ungenerous of you to suggest the lack of interest. I DO understand your frustration, but at the same time I do wish you'd have more understanding for us poor college people who aren't out of school yet and happen to have some... never mind. Life's been hard, that's all.

I posted something. I wrote it last night, actually, between 12 and 12:30 a.m. Not a good thing, but it came to me then, and I didn't want to forget it. Have fun with it.

Did you and the Mrs. have fun, by the way? Kentucky is a beautiful place, I've driven through it a few times. Did you get to ride any horses? If I ever got to Kentucky, that's what I want to do.

-- Folwren

[Groin Redbeard]

I just read my post over and I realized that the ending might be a little misleading. I don't want any of y'all to get the impression that my post is starting the ceremony.:) The characters are simply getting ready, so everyone still has time before the wedding begins. Besides, I'm pretty sure LMP would like to be the one to start things.;)

[Folwren]

Lommy or Nogrod, I posted something for Javan and it requires a response from Cnebba and probably Garmund.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Lommy or Nogrod, I posted something for Javan and it requires a response from Cnebba and probably Garmund.I hope Lommy could do it.

I have now a two weeks of utter chaos ahead of me. Like gazillions of things to do with no time to use on anything other than the next deadline: philosophy Olympiad -organisation for 150 people around the world starting on Thursday this week (and lasting for five days), the exam-week and reading the essays before May 28th, my daughter's (Lommy :)) matriculation festivities, the renovation of the windows in our house (a block of flats), the teachers' band's rehearsals and performance in the end of the school-year, the end of the school-year festivities where I have a few roles in our school... :(

I will be able to post in the beginning of June the earliest I'm afraid. But then again, the summer is good time for me and I probably can be a lot more active than I can be during these last days of the spring-sememster.

[Nogrod]

Why has nothing happened in the last 7 days?

I'm beginning to think that no one is really interested in this and it might as well not continue.

So is this still worth the time and energy I'm putting into it?

If so, please prove it to me.

You know how.Maybe my earlier post already answered some of that from my part (this has been going on for the last few weeks already)

But come June / July I'm ready to write (and to plot) a lot more. Indeed a lot as I think I have a few ideas then - depending on your ideas lmp to be sure. But we should discuss them in a few weeks time as now I just have no time for any lengthier discussion.

I can see your frustration lmp but I just had no chance of writing anything last week even if I wanted to. Too much work. Like it always turns out to be in May.