Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Eönwë]

I have ideas about these various characters already. Erbrand has good hand/eye coordination or he wouldn't be a trapper. Same goes for Stigend in carpentry. Harreld too as a smith. The rest excepting Dan can lay claim to marksmanship. So much for accuracy. As for distance, Erbrand and Harreld are no doubt the two strongest in camp, and will be favored.

Dan, well, he used to hunt a lot before he left home. And he's a warrior! *Roar* (or at least he would have been if he hadn't left).
Having lived in a forest (and having to hunt his own food) he has an exceptionally good aim at a close-ish range (say, about up to 20m). He's never had to throw a spear much further, so you never know. He's quite strong, even for a normal sized man (though mabe not like Erbrand and especially Harreld). He has excellent concentration (years of hunting and meditating do pay off). But a lot depends on the size and weight of the spear (he might have good points, but he's just a small man, after all).

And, yes, I have come back to this thread (expect a post from me in the Mead Hall by tomorrow) and have finally caught up.

PS. Sorry about all the brackets (But what am I supposed to do?)

[Lhunardawen]

I was wondering if Ginna could be allowed to join the sword fight event, even if most likely she'll fare poorly compared to the others. :Merisu:

[littlemanpoet]

Why not? :)

[Folwren]

Wow, Thornden didn't do so keenly on the spear throwing. Eh well, maybe he'll do better in the later games.

Good post, Elempi! It was very interesting to read.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Sorry, Foley. That's the roll of the dice. I admit that not everything was totally random, but hey, nobody else offered to write it so I got to choose who would win. :p

[Gwathagor]

I was wondering if Ginna could be allowed to join the sword fight event, even if most likely she'll fare poorly compared to the others. :Merisu:

That would DEFINITELY impress Harreld.

[Lhunardawen]

Why not? :)
Thank you, sir. :)

That would DEFINITELY impress Harreld.
If it wouldn't scare him into thinking twice about continuing to court her. :D

Speaking of whom... Poor Harreld. He was so close to winning.

[littlemanpoet]

Lhuna, didn't you have plans to have Randvér crash the party this Day?

[Lhunardawen]

I was thinking of it, as a matter of fact. The problem is I don't think I'll get the chance to write a post this week. If you can wait until next week, I'll try my best to finally bring Randvér to the Mead Hall.

[Folwren]

That would be amazingly interesting. I hope you can manage.

-- Folwren

[Groin Redbeard]

I was thinking of it, as a matter of fact. The problem is I don't think I'll get the chance to write a post this week. If you can wait until next week, I'll try my best to finally bring Randvér to the Mead Hall.

That would probably be the best time anyway. The games will be pretty much done by then so there should be lots of time for Ginna to steal away from the group. I'm looking forward to it.:)

EDIT: Welcom back Eonwe, we missed you. :D

[littlemanpoet]

Firefoot's next up with the dagger throwing.

In the meantime, character posts are welcome.

Dagger-throwing Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn, Scyld, Wilcred, Matrim--> FIREFOOT

Wrestling Crabannan, Dan, Harreld, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Osmund--> ELEMPI

Sack-fight Harreld, Erbrand, Dan, Javan, Cnebba, Garmund, Stigend, Kara--> NOGROD

Archery Erbrand, Crabannan, Garmund, Cnebba, Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Thornden, Wilcred, Balvir, Matrim --> GRÓIN

Quarterstaff-fight Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Garstan, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> NOGROD

Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim--> GWATHAGOR

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[littlemanpoet]

Hmmm.... sometimes Firefoot is away for days. If she doesn't say "I'm here" by the end of today, I'll do the wrestling post and we'll get back to the dagger throwing when she's ready.

[Folwren]

I was going to write a character post, but then there was nothing pressing for any of my characters to be written about...and unless there's something pressing, when I am short on time, I can't write from scratch...So...that means you all will have to wait until later, for now I have to run off to class.

[littlemanpoet]

Please indicate your character's prowess in wrestling so I have an idea how to write this. I've added Matrim to make it a clean 8 wrestlers. Here's the order

Garstan v Stigend
Matrim v Crabannan
Dan v Harreld
Aethelstan v Osmund

Two of these initial rounds are easy, since Crabannan has a bum leg and Harreld has a huge advantage on Dan ... once he can get his hands on him. :p

The winner of G v S will face the winner of M v C, and D v H will face A v O; then the finish round will be the between the winners of the those two rounds.

[Nogrod]

I think Garstan and Stigend would be fairly evenly matched. Garstan being possibly a bit stronger but Stigend being a bit more agile.

[Eönwë]

Well, Dan could be okay against a normal person, but Harreld is super-strong, and giant compared to him.

[Gwathagor]

Two of these initial rounds are easy, since Crabannan has a bum leg and Harreld has a huge advantage on Dan ... once he can get his hands on him. :p


His leg was bad a month ago, but I think it's basically healed by now.

Otherwise: Crabannan is a tall guy, and his strength is slightly above average. He has extensive experience in all kinds of combat, including wrestling, and this has made him skillful. In a fight, however, his natural fighting instincts tend to take over, and he can become incredibly fierce and tenacious, like a kind of battle-rage. He is more flexible than most people he knows.

Strengths:
-some strength
-large frame
-flexibility
-experience
-high intensity

Weaknesses:
-not compact strength, tall
-undisciplined
-only average agility/quickness
-old wound might unexpectedly cause him problems

[Groin Redbeard]

Well, Dan could be okay against a normal person, but Harreld is super-strong, and giant compared to him.

I'm sure with a bit of winning spirit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKfVH2TUBU&feature=related) Dan could win.;)

[Eönwë]

I'm sure with a bit of winning spirit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKfVH2TUBU&feature=related) Dan could win.;)
;)

You imagine Harreld to look like that? Thankfully I don't.

I feel so attached to Dan now I feel like saying "thanks for the encouragement!"

[littlemanpoet]

Garstan v Stigend
Matrim v Crabannan
Dan v Harreld
Aethelstan v Osmund



Okay, let's get a little creative. There are going to be three characteristics for each wrestler: strength, dexterity, and constitution (how long it takes before your character gets tired).

Let's use a tool similar to intelligence IQ. 10 = average, 18 = genius, 3 = severely lacking in smarts.

So what is your character's strength, dexterity, and constitution rating, on a scale of 3 to 18?

Here's Harreld: Str: 17 Dex: 13 Con: 15.

Have fun. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

You imagine Harreld to look like that? Thankfully I don't. Well sort of. His hair needs to be longer and he needs a beard and to smile a lot more and then he reminds me of Harreld.:p

I feel so attached to Dan now I feel like saying "thanks for the encouragement!"Go gett'm Eonwe!:D

Seriously though, there's a lot to be said for short fighters (look at the Dwarves for example). Being shorter means that you have a greater chance with having more agility and speed than the taller man. Also the taller man [Harreld] would be rather clumsy if Dan is quick enough. Can you tell who I'm rooting for yet!:D

[Eönwë]

Ok, I finally managed to post.

And just in case anybody wanted to know, I completely edited my last post (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=566680&postcount=256)(as in, not the one I just posted now).

[Eönwë]

Str:11.5 Dex:17 Con:17

[Groin Redbeard]

I've posted a response to Dan, the post turned out much longer than I expected for it to be!:eek: One thing brings out another as you might say, sorry if it was all gobble-dee-gook.

[Gwathagor]

Crabannan:
Str: 15
Dex: 15
Con: 15

How does this look? Do I have the right idea, LMP?

[Folwren]

Looks like we've got a lot of remarkable people on our hands.

[Eönwë]

I've posted a response to Dan, the post turned out much longer than I expected for it to be!:eek: One thing brings out another as you might say, sorry if it was all gobble-dee-gook.

It's okay Groin. In fact, I think you did better for Dan than I probably would have been able to (other than the spelling mistakes :p).

Hmm... The Day seems quite fun... I wonder how Dan will cope with the beer though.:smokin:

[piosenniel]

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[littlemanpoet]

I've been on the road for three days and am now settled for about three days at my folks on the eastern seaboard of North America. :p It will be a busy time, but I should be able to squeeze in a wrestling game post. Not to mention character posts.

Fea? Hallooooo? Is Degas going to answer Rowenna?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Fea? Hallooooo? Is Degas going to answer Rowenna?

Erm... hang on, I appear to have missed the memo that he was supposed to... *heading to the game thread...*

[littlemanpoet]

Thanks, Fea. A most sure and brief post that covers all important points. ;) I shall assign str, dex, and con. numbers to all the rest of the wrestlers (hope I get Stigend right), and proceed to put together the matches this evening. Might have this post up soon. Sorry for the delay as this Day is taking forever long to write. :rolleyes:

[Folwren]

Go Harreld, Go! I hope the smith wins. :D

Good posts, Elempi! Can't wait to see the end....

[Groin Redbeard]

Poor Dan, he never had a chance against that giant Harreld. :(

Great post Elempi, but my money is on Crabannan that man is to shifty and determined to lose.:p Looking forward to the ending!

[Gwathagor]

Poor Dan, he never had a chance against that giant Harreld. :(


He really didn't. Harreld is simply too big and strong.

[littlemanpoet]

Thanks, guys. :) I'll get it done tonight. Supper's ready right now so it'll have to wait for a bit. Funny, I started with dice but they didn't really work at all. Then I went with what I knew of the characters, and just sort of went with what I would expect of the characters, and it's been writing itself. Glad I took wrestling in grade school. :)

[Lhunardawen]

Glad I took wrestling in grade school.
Well, that explains it. Those were exciting posts to read, Elempi.

Harreld won! I'm nearly as pleased as Ginna. I could write a character interaction post for this, but I could probably do no more than have Ginna act like a Harreld fangirl. :rolleyes:

Actually, I lied. I can't write a post. There's nothing like schoolwork to sap my creative juices, and I'm still supposed to be writing a post for Randvér! I had a plan several months ago on how to bring Rand to the Mead Hall while everyone was busy with making the place comfortably inhabitable, but I couldn't write then, and I certainly can't use that idea now.

I was thinking that it would probably be likely for Eodwine to summon Rand to his new Mead Hall. For what reason specifically, I cannot think for the Eorl. And beyond that, I'm not sure what could happen. Maybe I should spend an entire week's worth of nights to focus on this. :D

Can anyone please give me a nudge, a push, or a shove? :Merisu:

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Hey Lhunatic-

*shove* :)

[Folwren]

Lhuna, I hope you can find time and creative juice enough soon to write that post with Randver coming back. Will it not be a very interesting meeting? Will he approve of Ginna's attraction to Harreld? Will she tell him about it? Will Harreld approach him and ask if he can marry Ginna? Oh, the possibilities!

I hope you can write it soon.

-- Folwren

[Lhunardawen]

Hey Lhunatic-

*shove* :)
*stumble*

Ouch. :p

Lhuna, I hope you can find time and creative juice enough soon to write that post with Randver coming back. Will it not be a very interesting meeting? Will he approve of Ginna's attraction to Harreld? Will she tell him about it? Will Harreld approach him and ask if he can marry Ginna? Oh, the possibilities!
Thanks, Foley. I've actually thought about that as soon as Harreld started making moves, so to speak. It won't be easy, but it will be very interesting to write.

I would never think of acting as a stumbling block to your obedience, Elempi, but I am going to need you for this. I can never write for Harreld by myself. :(

[Groin Redbeard]

Lhuna, I hope you can find time and creative juice enough soon to write that post with Randver coming back. Will it not be a very interesting meeting? Will he approve of Ginna's attraction to Harreld? Will she tell him about it? Will Harreld approach him and ask if he can marry Ginna? Oh, the possibilities!

Yes, not to mention all the excitement it will cause for the other characters!:D We get to be judgmental of the situation! :cool:

[littlemanpoet]

I would never think of acting as a stumbling block to your obedience, Elempi, but I am going to need you for this. I can never write for Harreld by myself. :(I'll write Harreld for this Day, and now that the other rpg that I'm still in has apparently started up again, well, let's just say, we'll see about beyond that.

As for getting Randvér to Scarburg, that seems simple enough, even without a summons from Eodwine: word spreads like wildfire when there's news to tell, and surely it is news that the Eorl of the new Middle Emnet has moved from Edoras to Scarburg. Rand will surely be curious and want to visit, both to see what is happening for his friend Eodwine, as well as how his daughter is doing.

By the way, when I had Crabannan and Harreld in that momentary deadlock, I decided that I didn't care who won, and so I simply rolled the dice three times for each: once for strength, once for dexterity, and once for endurance. Crabannan's roll for dexterity was the only one that failed. I wrote accordingly, and suggested as much through Harreld saying there was luck involved.

[littlemanpoet]

Next is either Firefoot's dagger throwing competition, or Nogrod's sack fight. Whoever gets the post up first. Let's keep it going.

[littlemanpoet]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't wait for the dance and riddles. So let's open it up for the rest of these competitions. Whoever wants to write one, go ahead and do it, and let's not worry about who's turn it is.

In about one week, we will move to the dance and riddle stage of this prolonged Day, and if there are any games that have not been written by then, they will be summarized.

Please let's keep this going.

[Groin Redbeard]

It might take me some time, but I'll get the archery contest up as soon as possible.

[Firefoot]

Yikes, it's been a while...

Sorry all, I've been frightfully busy and have no idea what's going on in the RPG right now... nor am I sure when I'll be able to write the dagger-throwing post... Owie. But I'll try.

But it looks like we've got Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn, Scyld, Wilcred, and Matrim entered. What are you all thinking about your characters' strengths in this contest? Anyone particularly good at this skill?

This is Scyld's forte; he's not particularly skilled at any other physical activity but he's got a serious edge on the competition here.

[Groin Redbeard]

The archery game is up! Sorry about it being so long at the end, I kept getting doubles with my dice!:D

[littlemanpoet]

Groin, that was a most entertaining post.... .except that Eodwine didn't win after all. :( ;)

For daggers:

Rowenna is going to be more adept at dagger throwing than expected. Write that how you like.

Eodwine will be average.

Harreld will be pretty good at it since he has excellent hand-eye coordination and has to use it all the time. His only problem will be to focus down his rather great strength to something as fine as a dagger.

[Folwren]

I think Saeryn is pretty much average, but she tends to surprise me sometimes, so she may be better than just 'average'. I doubt it, but you call the shots.

[littlemanpoet]

I think Saeryn is pretty much average, but she tends to surprise me sometimes, so she may be better than just 'average'. I doubt it, but you call the shots.

She keeps surprising Eodwine too. ;)

[littlemanpoet]

Here's what's left. Anybody who wants to jump in with their competition, please do so.

Dagger-throwing Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn, Scyld, Wilcred, Matrim--> FIREFOOT

Sack-fight Harreld, Erbrand, Dan, Javan, Cnebba, Garmund, Stigend, Kara--> NOGROD

Quarterstaff-fight Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Garstan, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> NOGROD

Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim--> GWATHAGOR

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[Folwren]

I just got a chance to read the archery contest. It was well done, Groin! I was a little disappointed with Javan missing the target at first, but I can't complain with Thornden doing so well, can I? :D

I hope to post in the near future. That means...Sunday, hopefully...because tomorrow and Saturday are looking full for me.

[littlemanpoet]

Fea, Eodwine has dropped a bit of a bomb in Degas' lap, so to speak. Please read and write at your earliest convenience..... :)

[Nogrod]

I've been rushed with pretty much RL stuff and a heck of a WW-game (by Fea, so you know what it means... :rolleyes:).

But I have peeked in every now and then. This goes nicely even if slowly.

So I'm on after Firefoot - with two games... :eek:

Just inform me about your characters agility, balance, strength & cunning for the sack fight - and whether they are used to the qurterstaff or are especially good or bad with it.

[Firefoot]

The dagger throwing post is mostly written - should be up tomorrow.

[Lhunardawen]

Sorry I've disappeared from the face of the Downs, loves, but the internet connection in my boarding house is not working. I'll take advantage of the fact that I have a lab report to hand over near the end of the week, and sneak in writing an RPG post while doing that. :D

Does anyone else think it seems too easy if I have Randvér run into Eodwine and Degas as they finish their conversation or something like that? Right now I really can't think of anything more...creative. *sigh*

[littlemanpoet]

Does anyone else think it seems too easy if I have Randvér run into Eodwine and Degas as they finish their conversation or something like that? Right now I really can't think of anything more...creative. *sigh*
I think that would be just right. :)

I was kind of wondering if shaggydog might want to have his character drop in on Eodwine and Degas too, but now I wonder if shaggydog is even with us anymore?

As to you WW'ers, it would be considerate if you guys would let the rest of us know when you have a WW game going, as it would help explain the sudden deadness here. No doubt Fea's PM box is too full to yell "hey you, you made a commitment to this thing!"

I'm tempted to just can the rest of the games since you WW'rs have made it plain by your uncommunicative absence that you have other things you'd rather be doing.

So it's six of you. No wonder. :rolleyes:

[Nogrod]

you WW'rs have made it plain by your uncommunicative absence that you have other things you'd rather be doing.
Sorry people, I should have made a notice earlier... But had it been only WW I would have had a lot of time to post in here as well. Sadly the last few weeks have been such that I have left home to work early mornings and come back mostly late in the evenings and still finding out that I need to do this and that thing for work. And writing stories demands both creativity & a fresh mind - both things I have really felt lacking lately...

But it looks much better now. And it's snowing outside! :)

[Thinlómien]

I admit I've not been follwoing this thread too closely lately. :( It's just that school has kept me busy and all my 'downs time has been taken by the megalomaniac ww game and getting me & Groin's little RPG started. :) I should have plenty of time to concentrate on this RPG next week, though. Meanwhile, have a look at the weird dream (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=575082&postcount=1489) of mine I had about this RPG. Interesting, isn't it? :Merisu:

[littlemanpoet]

Meanwhile, have a look at the weird dream (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=575082&postcount=1489) of mine I had about this RPG. Interesting, isn't it? :Merisu:I was actually thinking of suggesting to you all that you jump at least 6 months if not a year. Such a character as Branwen might be quite interesting. As to the Merisu with the tear, I haven't a clue as to what that might mean. ;)

[Folwren]

Heh. I second all that Elempi says about WW....:eek:

[Lhunardawen]

I think that would be just right. :)

No, I actually got a better idea. I would need the sword fighting event for that, though. Because I feel like sharing, please check your PM box, Elempi. :)

(Or no, actually there's no need for that. I'm sure you'll get to read my PM before you even read this post. :D)

[littlemanpoet]

(Or no, actually there's no need for that. I'm sure you'll get to read my PM before you even read this post. :D)Hah! You were right. Go for it; should be quite .... er..... fun :eek: ;)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Elempi, I have read your post, but I do not know how to respond. I do not know what a fair arrangement might consist of, and for the next few days, my internet is mind-numbingly slow, so the idea of spending hours of page-loading time trying to find a simple answer to Eodwine's question is rather daunting. If you can wait until, say, Friday, it shouldn't take me more than an hour. Or if somebody knows off the top of their head what a good response would be, that could work as well.

As a side note, the only person I attempted to bribe and berate into playing this Werewolf game politely declined. I don't make anybody devote their time to my projects.

[Groin Redbeard]

Well done on the Dagger-throwing Firefoot. This will make your character, Scyld, stand out more in Scarburg.:)

Nogrod, for the sack-fight, I think that Erbrand will fair quite badly in it. He's tall and not too flexible, his sense of balance would be completely destroyed due to his height. For the quarterstaff, Erbrand would not have used one for fighting purposes, though I'm sure he could grasp the concept very fast, especially if he watched someone fight first.

I'm really anxious for Erbrand to go up against Crabannan in either the sword fight or the quarterstaff. If you wouldn't mind, Nogrod, I'd like Erbrand to face Crabannan off in the quarterstaff, seeing as Erbrand would have a better chance with that weapon.

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being extremely weak and 10 being exceptionally strong, I'll rate the abilities that you wanted: strength= 8, agility= 4; balance= 5.

[Nogrod]

I'm really anxious for Erbrand to go up against Crabannan in either the sword fight or the quarterstaff. If you wouldn't mind, Nogrod, I'd like Erbrand to face Crabannan off in the quarterstaffYou just got yourself a deal (and Gwath as well - unless he protests mightily). I had pondered whether I should make just a full lottery for "who meets who" but that I think settles it for you guys. Any other favourites?


Also I'd like to hear more about the sack-fight as well; Harreld, Dan, Javan, Kara?

I should have ample time on the few days to come so I might start writing and maybe posting the sack-fight on let's say thursday (if that isn't too rushed that is). But I'd like to have a few points about the participators before I start doing it.

And as you are with it, just give the points on their quarterstaff-abilities as well - and how you anticipate them to fare in that.

[Gwathagor]

You just got yourself a deal (and Gwath as well - unless he protests mightily).

Bring it on.

[Gwathagor]

Exactly what stats would you like, Nogrod, for the quarterstaff fight?

[Nogrod]

Bring it on.That's the spirit!

Any "values" like Groin offered for my dices, or do I decide on them myself? It's your chance to affect the outcome now... :)

Gah, X'd with Gwath...

Yeah, the sack-fight is the harder (more factors in it) one I suppose...

[Gwathagor]

For Crabannan:
Agility=7
Balance=6
Strength=7
Cunning=7

[Nogrod]

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being extremely weak and 10 being exceptionally strong, I'll rate the abilities that you wanted: strength= 8, agility= 4; balance= 5.
For Crabannan:
Agility=7
Balance=6
Strength=7
Cunning=7So you got to pick the later? :D


Anyway, if you don't feel like it I don't need as exact numbers from all of you - some guidelines would help though; like Dan is extremely clumsy but powerful and obstinate or Javan is agile but not so powerful... or whatever you think...

I'll make some believable "scores" for our NPC -soldiers making them believably good but not downright easy winners... and the dices will then roll.

[Gwathagor]

So you got to pick the later? :D

Yeees. If they seem inordinately high, I ought to point out that fighting is what Crabannan does best by nature and by nurture.

[Eönwë]

Ok, Nogrod.

Which event/s do you need it for?

[Nogrod]

Ok, Nogrod.

Which event/s do you need it for?Well, the sack-fight is first and the quarterstaff-fight will follow...

[littlemanpoet]

Fea, I'll have to get back to you on Eodwine's question for Degas. I did some research before I wrote the post, but it's late.

Harreld in the sack fight: strength 9, agility 7, balance, 4

Harreld in the quarterstaff fight: str 9, agility 7, stamina 6

Is that enough info?

[Gwathagor]

I guess stamina stats would be a good idea.

Crabannan:
Stamina=7
Strength=7
Agility=7
Balance=6
Cunning=7

[Kath]

Kara in the sack fight:
Strength 3 - there's some there from hefting things about but not much.
Agility 7 - she's light on her feet and used to dodging around things in the kitchen.
Balance 7 - again pretty fair.

Maybe you should put her up against Erbrand, Nog, see how he reacts. :D

[Lhunardawen]

Maybe you should put her up against Erbrand, Nog, see how he reacts. :D

Mean, Kath, really mean. :p

Yes, Noggie, please do. :D

[Groin Redbeard]

Maybe you should put her up against Erbrand, Nog, see how he reacts.

I think that he'll faint if anything.:D That would be cruel!:D

Bring it on.
Thanks for accepting Gwathagor. You are going down now!:p

[Folwren]

Well, I haven't time now to decide ANYTHING for my characters, but I wanted to plead that you not continue with the events quite yet...until I get a chance to catch up.

Sorry I've been so scarce lately - life has been hectic of late. I am home tomorrow and have hope of being able to post.

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Sorry I missed the this, the stamina part should give my character a boost.:)
Stamina=9/8
Strength= 8
Agility= 4
Balance= 5

[Gwathagor]

Yeah, Erbrand's gonna need all the help he can get.

[Folwren]

Alrighty, I've caught up on reading the posts on this thread. I'm not going to use numbers to describe my characters - I don't think that's fair: of course I want my characters to win. ;)

So, for the sack fight: Javan is short, as you all know. He has good balance and agility. However, he is aggressive AND impuslive, so I can totally see him taking a rash swing at someone with the sack and falling off the log because he throws himself off balance when his stroke doesn't do what it's supposed to - does that make sense? Use it as you will. I'd say he has a chance, but he has his draw backs.

For the quarterstaff fight - Thornden is tall and strong and liable to be overbearing if necessary. He is skilled in this form of fighting, being swift with both his eyes and his actions so that he can parry and strike with precision and knowledge.
Please don't have anyone TOO hurt in this. ;)

Will that do?

[littlemanpoet]

For the quarterstaff fight - Thornden is tall and strong and liable to be overbearing if necessary. He is skilled in this form of fighting, being swift with both his eyes and his actions so that he can parry and strike with precision and knowledge.
Please don't have anyone TOO hurt in this. ;)

Will that do?Sounds to me like this is the one Thornden should win. ;)

[Folwren]

Sounds to me like this is the one Thornden should win. ;)

Well, I could be more modest if you wish it, but I just thought... Thornden is a trained soldier, after all, so he can be good at it.

[Nogrod]

So, for the sack fight: Javan is short, as you all know. He has good balance and agility. However, he is aggressive AND impuslive, so I can totally see him taking a rash swing at someone with the sack and falling off the log because he throws himself off balance when his stroke doesn't do what it's supposed to - does that make sense? Use it as you will.I was actually thinking that should happen to someone... :)

I'm trying to post the sackfight tomorrow.

Well, I could be more modest if you wish it, but I just thought... Thornden is a trained soldier, after all, so he can be good at it.I'm having Thornden one of the favourites in my papers. He's the highest ranking soldier around anyway so he should be quite accomplished in soldiering...

[Eönwë]

For Dan:

Stamina=9
Strength=4
Agility=7
Balance=9

[Thinlómien]

I have finally managed to read the posts I've missed - and I must say it even wasn't a big job. I should just always read the posts as they come, however busy I am. :rolleyes: Anyway, great job everybody - I like it that people are interacting so much and the posts have been well-written, as always. :)

I will try to write something for Modtryth and/or Cnebba soon. I think they, especially Cnebba himself, would be excited by Cnebba's late performance in archery. :D

[littlemanpoet]

Thanks to Lommy ;) for reminding me about this topic, for which Fea requested assistance. Just to make things clear in my mind as well:

Bride price = that which is owed by the suitor for the woman's hand in marriage. This is NOT actually "buying the woman", but paying her family for two things: (1) the loss of the good things she was and did as part of the household; (2) her security once widowhood arrives.

Part 2 was typical in pre-modern times because women tended to marry much younger than men, who generally had to establish themselves economically (with a trade or actual wealth) before they could start thinking about marriage, and so the man was quite likely to die before she did.

Scarburg itself cannot be the bride price, since that is given by the king the Eorl of Middle Emnet, and if there is an eldest son, it should go to him, depending upon the king's blessing.

Condition number 1 (above) is rather subjective in Saeryn's case, and that's a matter of agreement between Degas and Eodwine. Condition number 2 has to do with making it the husband's responsibility to care for his wife after his death, rather than making it his childrens' responsibility. Of course, that would mean that Degas' family would be held responsible to take Saeryn back to the Folde, should she wish to go there, since that's where the bride price was paid to. Then again, she could request the bride price be paid to her after Eodwine's death, and she could remain at Scarburg with her children.

The bride price could be coin, or it could be cattle, horses, you name it; could even be a "tithe" of the next five years' harvest in grain, or some such. We could be very creative about it.

Then there's the dowry. The whole idea here is that the family of the bride hopes to enrich the bride and her husband's fresh start by giving them something to bank against the immediate future.

So the dowry has to do with "start-up", and the bride price has more to do with the bride's security in the long term.

Hope that helps.

[Thinlómien]

Hey, LMP, I never understood the exact meaning of those two terms - thanks for educating me. :D

I've posted now and I must admit it didn't take that much effort... Matrim is soon becoming my favourite NPC*, I think. :D (*Btw is he technically an NPC or just Nerindel's forgotten character?)

Kath, if you want to write a post for Frodides, make her reply Modtryth, but if you don't, just say it on this thread and I may as well carry on from where I left it. :)

[Folwren]

No, I actually got a better idea. I would need the sword fighting event for that, though. Because I feel like sharing, please check your PM box, Elempi. :)

(Or no, actually there's no need for that. I'm sure you'll get to read my PM before you even read this post. :D)

Hah! You were right. Go for it; should be quite .... er..... fun:eek:

This has been 'bothering' me ever since you two said this! Please don't keep me guessing for long about what the plan is, Lhuna! I keep coming up with ... interesting and 'fun' scenerios in my head.

But, then, I guess that you're really waiting for the sword fighting, huh? I guess I'll have to be patient. *starts gnawing on fingernails with impatience*

[Kath]

I will try to get a reply up later toDay Lommy. :)

[Nogrod]

My first sack-fight post is a waay too long. I hope you forgive me as Cnebba and Garmund are characters of which one is mine (well shared with Lommy) and the other I have written a lot of as well, so that match is a bit overdone in length. I'll promise to be a bit shorter in the future...

The next part is coming in soonish.

PS. Foley: I hope that's alright with Javan. I can edit out the "inner thoughts" of him if you think I should. I'm happy to do that if I've portrayed that young man incorrectly.

[Nogrod]

:rolleyes:
Like I was able to write short posts...


Okay. Have your reactions or let the other "out-of-the-games" things go forwards. I'll try to make the semifinals and the final of the sack-fight tomorrow. Now it's 2.20 AM and I'm to bed.

[Kath]

Ok, reply to Modtryth is there Lommy and I've put in a short conversation between Kara and Erbrand. If I've put words in anyones mouths that they don't like please let me know. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Hey, LMP, I never understood the exact meaning of those two terms - thanks for educating me. :DYou're welcome. I have to admit that the distinction of dowry as "start up money" is a logical conclusion I reached without support of evidence.

is Matrim technically an NPC or just Nerindel's forgotten character?I'd say the correct appallation of Matrim is that he is Nerindel's *minor* character. In her absence he becomes an NPC.

Sorry, Foley, I'm following Lhuna's lead on this one, and she's waiting for the sword fight.

Now that things are happening around here, I've stopped being so antsy trying to move things along to the end of the games. But let's please keep things going once Nogrod's finished with the sack fight!

It's late. I'll write a post to catch up Harreld & Rowenna in the morning.

[Groin Redbeard]

Ok, reply to Modtryth is there Lommy and I've put in a short conversation between Kara and Erbrand. If I've put words in anyones mouths that they don't like please let me know. :)
Looks great Kath!:D

[Folwren]

Nogrod, you did great! Javan's stuff in the post is excellent and I have no complaints. :D

Don't worry about it, Elempi. I am just voicing my impatient curiosity to let you both know that it didn't fall on deaf ears - at least in this quarter. ;)

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

Ok, reply to Modtryth is there Lommy and I've put in a short conversation between Kara and Erbrand. If I've put words in anyones mouths that they don't like please let me know.It's fine for me too. :) And it's nice - have I said it somewhere or can you read my thoughts? :eek:;) - I've always thought Modtryth would be a good storyteller!

[Kath]

Haha clearly I'm just psychic. :D No it just made sense to me so I'm glad you're good with it.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Writing a paper (taking a mini break), so I can't really post for real at the moment, but here's what I'm thinking:

""You have blessed me with knowing your desire that Saeryn become my wife, for which I thank you. But we have not spoken, you and I, of bride price and dowery. Now that you are head of your house, and Saeryn is your sister, what would you have from me in plight for the good of your sister, both while we live, but more to the point, for her security in widowhoood?"" (Eodwine to Degas)

Saeryn would have had a dowery in place already, yes? Presumably? But would Crazy-Fenrir have left it alone, particularly once she fell from favor? To the point: can I assume that Saer already has a dowery containing dowery-stuff, or does the rather prodigal Degas need to come up with a new one from the wreckage of his long-avoided home?

And I'm now definitely thinking of bride-price as 'retirement fund.'

Also, I'm thinking, Saeryn hasn't really been a part of the Folde for quite some time now, so handing over stuff to make up for what the Folde will be losing isn't quite like if she'd been living at home being the sole weaver or something.

Also, though- would it be appropriate for Degas to go home and see what his lands need before naming a bride price? Or is this a conversation that must be settled 'now' regardless of the current state of the Folde?

[littlemanpoet]

I think that Degas' and Eodwine's combined situation is rather unique. Both are relatively poor lords in start-up phase. Eodwine has very little to offer Degas in bride price, and Degas has very little to offer Eodwine in dowry because no doubt stoopid crazy brother sabotaged it. So I think that the two of them are likely to come to one of two decisions:

1) "let's settle this when we're both a bit more settled". This has the negative for Eodwine of nothing new for start-up, but it's a positive for Degas, obviously; and Saeryn's bride price/retirement fund is unaffected.

2) Bride price and dowry are combined in a pact of life-long alliance, aid, and friendship, as long as two of the three individuals shall live. This has the negative of no real boost to any of them in the start-up phase, but the long term rewards would of course be huge for all involved.

Can anybody think of a 3)?

[Lhunardawen]

I am just voicing my impatient curiosity to let you both know that it didn't fall on deaf ears - at least in this quarter. ;)

-- Foley

I'm sorry, Foley, and thanks. Now that you've expressed your 'excitement,' I feel a bit more pressured to do a good job on writing what I've been planning. *gnaws on fingernails nervously*

I really have to wait for the sword fight, though. I'm just hoping I can write when it finally comes...

[Folwren]

Well, which game is next? The quarterstaff fight, right? And then what - the sword fight? Who's writing that?

I am very excited to see what's stewing. I am guessing, but whether or not I'm guessing correctly, we shall see. I see that Harreld and Ginna are getting rather warm with each other. lol! :D

[Nogrod]

Well, which game is next? The quarterstaff fight, right? We still need the final for the sack-fight. Then there will be the quarterstaff-stuff... :D

[Thinlómien]

:D:D Now I'm pretty sure Kara's going to win the whole sack-fight!!! ;)

[Lhunardawen]

If my memory serves me well, Foley, it's Gwath who will be writing the sword fight. Gwath, please don't forget to include Ginna in the player list! Thanks. :)

[littlemanpoet]

The spelling of "dowery" was bugging me so I looked it up and sure enough, I've been spelling it wrong. It's dowry. It's the root word for "endowment". Not sure that clarifies anything.

[Thinlómien]

The spelling of "dowery" was bugging me so I looked it up and sure enough, I've been spelling it wrong. It's dowry. It's the root word for "endowment". Not sure that clarifies anything.Haha, LMP, I trust you rather blindly - you know, when you spelt it as "dowery" I was like "isn't it "dowry"? Oh, I guess "dowery" is just an alternative spelling..." :D;)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Oh, I guess "dowery" is just an alternative spelling..." :D;)

That was totally what I thought too.

[Nogrod]

The sack-fight is packed.

It will take me a few days before I have time to start thinking about the quarterstaff-game. But it will come soonish. So please go on writing and use the interval for some interaction.

[Eönwë]

Underhand tactics, I say :p

[Folwren]

Is it too late for me to add Thornden to the list for sword fighting? With Ginna added to the list, it makes an odd number of contestants, so I was thinking that Thornden would make it even. Would that be alright?

For my own sake and for anyone else who's sake is saved, I'm bringing this forward.

Quarterstaff-fight Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Garstan, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> NOGROD

Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim, Ginna--> GWATHAGOR

Dancing

Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[Folwren]

Nogrod or Lommy, Javan has addressed Cnebba and Garmund with a wager. I thought you'd like to know so you can have either of them answer as you will. :)

[littlemanpoet]

Will you look at that? The peasants get to hug each other while the socially hire ranking tradesman and land holder's daughter dare no more than to stand arm in arm; but the lord and lady, compared to that, may do no more than bow and curtsy or sit near each other. Ah me, ah well. Such is the price of nobility. :p

Fun posts, everyone! Fea and I are in the midst of building a PM post so that poor Fea doesn't have to wrack her brains all alone how Degas would reply to Eodwine. Hope to post it soon - maybe tonight or tomorrow. Then the quarterstaff fights can begin..... :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Will you look at that? The peasants get to hug each other while the socially hire ranking tradesman and land holder's daughter dare no more than to stand arm in arm; but the lord and lady, compared to that, may do no more than bow and curtsy or sit near each other. Ah me, ah well. Such is the price of nobility. :pAh, the joys of being the lower class.;)

Is our goal to get the games done by the end of this week, or are we all set now that people are posting?

[Folwren]

One thing, Groin - Thornden did not help Erbrand up. Others were there before him. He helped Kara down. :)

Hey, Elempi, funny you shouldn't notice that. I didn't, but it's so true. lol!

[littlemanpoet]

Groin, as long as there are people posting, it's okay if the games don't get done in a hurry. However, let's not drag our heels either.

Fea and I have finished our PM post. I'll post it up as soon as I'm at a computer that can copy and paste. :rolleyes:

[Thinlómien]

Nogrod or Lommy, Javan has addressed Cnebba and Garmund with a wager. I thought you'd like to know so you can have either of them answer as you will. :)At least I won't have time to post today but we'll try to have one of us doing it soon... :)

[littlemanpoet]

I have edited post # 336 on the Scarburg thread with the continuation from Fea's and my PM built post.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod or Lommy, Javan has addressed Cnebba and Garmund with a wager. I thought you'd like to know so you can have either of them answer as you will. :)
we'll try to have one of us doing it soon...
That looks like a nice one Foley!

I could try to give it a go later today if our little recording session for Brinn doesn't take the whole evening.

[Folwren]

Elempi, there's one problem...and I spotted it Sunday when I wrote my post. Eodwine seems to be away during the dagger throwing (at least, if we go by where your post is positioned right before the competition), and yet, he takes part in it in Firefoot's post.

May I propose that posts be shuffled a bit, somehow?

Cross posted in Nogrod...

Whenever either of you get a chance to post, that's fine! My school week runs from Monday through Wednesday, so until Thursday, I really don't have much time to post in any games.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Rather than shuffling posts, Fea and I can in our next posts for Degas and Eodwine, respectively, simply describe returning to the games just in time for the dagger throwing contest. Make sense?

[Folwren]

Sure! It makes sense. :) Sorry if I was sticking my nose into business that wasn't mine. :o

-- Foley

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Sorry if I was sticking my nose into business that wasn't mine.

Psh. None of that now- I'd just about kill for a few people in my advanced writing class to be more willing to point out potential flaws and errors. I think they're all afraid of me, so I'll know perfectly well something I've written needs work yet nobody will speak up and tell me what I've screwed up. :rolleyes:

Critics are downright useful, so please please please don't stop.

[Folwren]

Psh. None of that now- I'd just about kill for a few people in my advanced writing class to be more willing to point out potential flaws and errors. I think they're all afraid of me, so I'll know perfectly well something I've written needs work yet nobody will speak up and tell me what I've screwed up. :rolleyes:

*Foley trembling in her boots* Ooookay, Mrs. Fea. Sorry for being a trouble by apologizing to be a trouble. I'll keep that in mind.

;)

Critics are downright useful, so please please please don't stop.

Yeah, I know, but it can really be troublesome to have someone be a critic when you don't want to be critiqued.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Yeah, I know, but it can really be troublesome to have someone be a critic when you don't want to be critiqued.

Haha! Most definitely true. I try to just think about it in terms of either you want to get better or you don't and if you don't want to improve yourself and your skills, you deserve all the criticism you get. :cool:

[Groin Redbeard]

One thing, Groin - Thornden did not help Erbrand up. Others were there before him. He helped Kara down. What?! why is he doing that? Hands off Thornden, if Erbrand didn't know Thornden would beat him to a pulp he would give that soldier a piece of his mind!:D I'm going to have to keep my eye on your character Folwren.:)

Excellent editing with your post Elempi! My hat's off to you and Fea for your work.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

My hat's off to you and Fea for your work.

I give him the credit. I've been in meltdown stress mode and wouldn't have come up with dust if he hadn't helped me along with it.

I'm merely concerned Degas will snuff it and Eodwine and Saeryn will need help. Of course I don't intend for him to snuff it, I intend for him to get married and produce little redheads. He needs to learn how to plow a field properly. Boy's been spoiled.

Of course I also don't intend to actually write any of these events, I intend to follow him to the edges of his lands and leave him there with the promise of a future, thence retiring from his story and getting to work on a novel that's been incubating since summer.

[Thinlómien]

Nog - would you have time to write the post for the boys? I'm going to be awfully busy this week...

[Nogrod]

Quarterstaff-fight Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Garstan, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir
Anyone wishing to join one's character here? One more would be nice for then we would have 12 contestants. If no one wishes to enter her/his character in I will use one of the NPC's then.

As we have 12 participants just duelling them would leave us with six going through... and then three... If you do not make loud and reasonable objections I'm going to make the first-round games trio-fights - and only the "last man standing" will advance forwards. On the second round there wil be two duels and then a final.


Also, if someone still wishes to give me a take on her/his character's capabilites, strengths and weaknesses in a quarterstaf fight, please give one. It can be like some have done a numerical judgement of some key stats or just a short verbal description like some others did.

Nog - would you have time to write the post for the boys? I'm going to be awfully busy this week...I'll see to it.

[Thinlómien]

I'll see to it.
Thanks. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Anyone wishing to join one's character here? One more would be nice for then we would have 12 contestants. If no one wishes to enter her/his character in I will use one of the NPC's then.If nobody wants to use their character in the fight, if you want to, just add use Lithor.:) I've been thinking that the day has been pretty boring for him if he doesn't take part in some the activity, after all he is a soldier.

[Nogrod]

If nobody wants to use their character in the fight, if you want to, just add use Lithor.:) I've been thinking that the day has been pretty boring for him if he doesn't take part in some the activity, after all he is a soldier.That's a good idea indeed. Let's make it a deal. If no one voices a wish to bring her/his character forwards in let's say a few days from now I'll use Lithor.

[Thinlómien]

That's a good idea indeed. Let's make it a deal. If no one voices a wish to bring her/his character forwards in let's say a few days from now I'll use Lithor.Or if someone wants to bring in their character, we may always have him/her and Lithor and some NPC?

[Nogrod]

I thought of writing the answer to your post Foley but then realised this:
“Ha! Did you hear that?” Javan asked, turning with a bright grin toward Cnebba and Garmund. “My brother’s in that! I’ll bet you anything you name that he’ll win!”So would there be something that Javan owns - and which Garmund and Cnebba might crave for? Would he have something like a very neat dagger / knife, a nice toy, something? I guess both Garmund and Cnebba would have at least some nice toys made by their fathers which they would have to put in risk to counter the bet then...

Or do you think the bet should be immaterial, like "you'll be our servant for a week" or something? That might be fun as well.

[Folwren]

What?! why is he doing that? Hands off Thornden, if Erbrand didn't know Thornden would beat him to a pulp he would give that soldier a piece of his mind!:D I'm going to have to keep my eye on your character Folwren.:)

Haha! That's funny. Thornden wouldn't beat him to a pulp at all...not even half way there. ;)
As a matter of fact, it would be extremely interesting if you wanted to make a deal out of this and have Erbrand say something. I think it could be fun.
But, really, Thornden was just being a gentleman like he always is.

So would there be something that Javan owns - and which Garmund and Cnebba might crave for? Would he have something like a very neat dagger / knife, a nice toy, something? I guess both Garmund and Cnebba would have at least some nice toys made by their fathers which they would have to put in risk to counter the bet then...

Or do you think the bet should be immaterial, like "you'll be our servant for a week" or something? That might be fun as well.

Oh, I have no idea. The only posession that Javan has that either of them would want would possibly be a knife of some sort (if he's allowed to have one). He owns really very little. He has his horse, but that may be a bit extreme, and I guess he might be said to own his own bow, but the boys probably have their own, too.

The idea of the servant for a week (or whatever else you come up with) sounds interesting and fun. Either that or the knife, I guess. Or if you come up with some other toy or something, then do it. I'll probably be happy with whatever you come up with.

This make reading the game and seeing how Thornden does even more interesting for me!

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Haha! That's funny. Thornden wouldn't beat him to a pulp at all...not even half way there. ;)
As a matter of fact, it would be extremely interesting if you wanted to make a deal out of this and have Erbrand say something. I think it could be fun.
But, really, Thornden was just being a gentleman like he always is.That might not be a bad idea, Folwren. Just like with Crabannan, Erbrand can get overly defensive with Thornden. I think I'll run with that idea, thanks Folwren!:D

[Folwren]

Cool! Are you going to edit your post again, or write another one? :D

This should be fun!

[littlemanpoet]

thence retiring from his story and getting to work on a novel that's been incubating since summer.
You simply MUST let me read some of that when you have it written. I LOVE reading new stuff and also (watch out) LOVE offering advice and encouragement. :p

Sorry to rain on your game, Noggie, but the three way quarterstaff fight seems unworkable to me. I suggest a play-in round by non-soldiers and less experienced soldiers instead. Up to you, of course.

[Folwren]

You simply MUST let me read some of that when you have it written. I LOVE reading new stuff and also (watch out) LOVE offering advice and encouragement. :p

Hm. I'll have to remember that if I ever write one of my incubating novels. ;)

Sorry to rain on your game, Noggie, but the three way quarterstaff fight seems unworkable to me. I suggest a play-in round by non-soldiers and less experienced soldiers instead. Up to you, of course.

It definitely would be interesting, Nogrod, but something savage, I would guess. Just think...two decide to take one out, so they're fighting him, and then one gets more caught up in the fight than the other, and the other who is not really fighting at all, decides to put out his short-term ally...

I can picture it in my mind but I can't put it on paper. It just seems like a whole arena for treason and back whacking (opposed to back stabbing, you know ;) )

-- Foley

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

You simply MUST let me read some of that when you have it written. I LOVE reading new stuff and also (watch out) LOVE offering advice and encouragement. :p

Hm... Perhaps I should send you the pieces of unfinished projects I've been ignoring for a while and you can give me ideas on how to finish them. :cool:

[Groin Redbeard]

Cool! Are you going to edit your post again, or write another one? :D

This should be fun!

I think write another one, hopefully by tonight!:D

[Nogrod]

Foley, I have made the younger boys to answer Javan's bet.

Feel free to make Javan bargain a better deal for him.
(btw. the discrepancy is intentional: Cnebba suggested Javan would be a slave for a week but Garmund raised it to two as he knew they were negotiating there... Feel free to hit on that fex.)


I'm probably able to send the first rounds of the quarterstaff-fight on Sunday. So you'll all have time at least until then to post for things before the fight.

[Gwathagor]

Groin, I've noticed that about 50% of the time, you spell my character's name "Crabanna" rather than "Crabannan." You might want to look into it.

[Groin Redbeard]

Groin, I've noticed that about 50% of the time, you spell my character's name "Crabanna" rather than "Crabannan." You might want to look into it.

Why is that?:confused: Anyway, the mistake is corrected Gwathago!:p;)

[Folwren]

Groin...that was absolutely hilarious... I had to have Thornden laugh at least once or twice, because I was laughing myself. Quite an awkward, hilarious situation. Oh dear me. Have him answer however you will, I am really open to any sort of scene you want to make out of this.

Nogrod, I have posted for Javan.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Hope this isn't too late.

Harreld is a little out of his element in the quarterstaff fight. He's a tradesman, not an warrior. Whereas his dexterity is above average, he has little experience with a quarterstaff, so does not know tricks and moves. It will all be instinct for him, which means he's at a disadvantage. His strength will not help him much.

Eodwine is a soldier by profession and has had training in quarterstaff. He is above average in dexterity, but not much. Quarterstaff is not something he keeps in practice with, but he knows the skills. He might be perhaps a half step slower than the young guys due to his age.

[Groin Redbeard]

Groin...that was absolutely hilarious... I had to have Thornden laugh at least once or twice, because I was laughing myself. Quite an awkward, hilarious situation. Oh dear me. Have him answer however you will, I am really open to any sort of scene you want to make out of this.
I thought about Erbrand resorting to physical violence but that would be carrying it too far.:rolleyes: I've got my response up for Erbrand, he's behaving quite selfishly so feel free to respond in whatever way you deem fit!:D Thornden is handling this quite well so far, let's see if he can keep his cool for long. ;)

[Folwren]

Haha! I am really getting a kick out of this one.

Thornden's kept his cool, mostly. I have doubt about Erbrand, though, unless he listens up. People could have an unexpected competition on their hands, wot wot? And Eodwine's gone, which makes it even more humorous because no one's really there to stop it (I mean, they can, and should, if it escalates to a fight, but no one of authority is there). But he's due back any moment.
Yes, indeed, this could be very interesting. *grins and rubs hands together with gleeful anticipation*

And, by the way, you left the 'n' off of Crabbannan again.

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Whoa, you sure told me off, Folwren, what a post!:eek: I'm going to have to think about Erbrand's response, I want it to be justified, however slight that might be, in his eyes on why he confronted Thornden. This is so much fun, I'll be back with a response as soon as I come up with one.:D


And, by the way, you left the 'n' off of Crabbannan again.I'll never learn!:mad:

[Folwren]

Whoa, you sure told me off, Folwren, what a post!:eek: I'm going to have to think about Erbrand's response, I want it to be justified, however slight that might be, in his eyes on why he confronted Thornden. This is so much fun, I'll be back with a response as soon as I come up with one.:D


Yeah, sorry about that. Just remember - Thornden told Erbrand off, I didn't do so to you. I often take my character's stuff personally, too, so I may understand what you're feeling. ;)

But it is fun.

[Thinlómien]

Oh, Groin and Foley, you're being incredibly funny. :D But I must admit I'm on Thornden's side... ;)

[Kath]

Aww come on, Erbrand's all het up after his fight. His blood is boiling and then another man seems to be making moves on 'his' woman? I'd hate it but I'd understand it.

[Folwren]

lol. I'm glad to see we're amusing people. :D

I guess I kind of see Erbrand's side, but I'm still fully on Thornden's side and believe firmly in what I had him last say. ;)

Looking with excitement to Groin's next post....

[littlemanpoet]

And Eodwine's gone, which makes it even more humorous because no one's really there to stop it (I mean, they can, and should, if it escalates to a fight, but no one of authority is there). But he's due back any moment.On the contrary, Eodwine and Degas have been back since before the dagger throwing contest; they just haven't said or done much. Eodwine is not far, and he will take action if and when he chooses to. ;)

[Folwren]

On the contrary, Eodwine and Degas have been back since before the dagger throwing contest; they just haven't said or done much. Eodwine is not far, and he will take action if and when he chooses to. ;)

Oh. I didn't realize that. Okay, that's alright. :smokin:

[littlemanpoet]

Regardless, Thornden is Eodwine's second command and therefore IS AN AUTHORITY in Scarburg. Erbrand should by now know this, and should also know that (even he forgets for the moment :D ) that to pick a fight with Thornden is tantamount to insubordination, and therefore punishable as the Eorl sees fit. ;)

[Folwren]

Regardless, Thornden is Eodwine's second command and therefore IS AN AUTHORITY in Scarburg. Erbrand should by now know this, and should also know that (even he forgets for the moment :D ) that to pick a fight with Thornden is tantamount to insubordination, and therefore punishable as the Eorl sees fit. ;)

Elempi! Don't scare 'im! I'd be fine if it were me, 'cause I'd go ahead and have my character do my worst just to see what would happen. (You know the whole deal about curiosity killing the cat?) But I don't know about Groin...he might be more timid than I. ;)

[littlemanpoet]

:D I think Groin's confident enough to have Erbrand do what fits Erbrand's character. Besides, Eodwine doesn't run a "police state". This is a pretty easy going group of people in general, and Eodwine likes it that way.

I personally would be interested for Groin to reveal how Erbrand became such a broken person. I mean, someone that capable and strong, so lacking in basic confidence! This guy's history would be an interesting thing to learn about. ;) (hint hint)

Incidentally, seems like Saeryn's been pretty quiet lately. Wouldn't mind reading some of her refreshing personality at work. hint hint

[Groin Redbeard]

I'm glad that our posts are amusing everyone Folwren!:D Erbrand won't strike at Thornden, as he very well might Crabannan (ha, spelled it right, I think:p). I won't spoil the rest of what I have in mind, but those few posts have unleashed a dam of possibilities for me.:D

I'll see what I can do this evening.

[Folwren]

Groin, I am definitely looking forward to your post to see just what Erbrand does.

Elempi, I've posted for Saeryn. That might amuse you.

This certain has turned into a courtship story....seriously....:rolleyes:

-- Folwren

[Kath]

In her mind’s eye she saw Erbrand and Kara embracing, and Harreld and Kara watching at a little distance, holding hands.
Folwren, unless Erbrand has yet another rival, that second Kara maybe ought to be Ginna? :)

[Folwren]

Hahahaha! Thanks! I GREATLY appreciate that!

Oh, the hought is hillarious!

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

Folwren, unless Erbrand has yet another rival, that second Kara maybe ought to be Ginna? :)
Hahaha! Ouch, I'm taking that hit for Ginna. So much for friendship. :p

[Groin Redbeard]

Sorry that I wasn't able to get my post up yesterday. It was game night with the Boy Scouts and we took longer than I thought. Y'all will be happy to know that I borrowed several ideas for the games from toDay. The sack-fight was hit, no one could refrain from doing it a second time!:D

Folwren, unless Erbrand has yet another rival, that second Kara maybe ought to be Ginna?

One war at a time, please!:D

My post is up. Although the two have not resorted to blows with fists, I dealt a few venomous blows with words at your character, Folwren, please don't take them as if I was directing them at you, just your character.:) Also, please note that the last sentence that Erbrand says is not one of mock, he really knows that Thornden is superior to him in fighting and knows that he will probably fall under Thornden's staff. I hope the post is what you wanted, I certainly enjoyed writing it.

[Folwren]

:eek:Oh my goodness! :eek:

Nogrod, this certainly confuses matters. I'll PM you.

Groin, that's quite a post! Poor Thornden! Poor Erbrand! Such a misunderstanding! And he stormed off, so Thornden doesn't have a chance to answer!

No worries, I took absolutely nothing personally.

Okay, I guess that's all that can be said at this point. I might post once more before the quarterstaff fight, but it looks like we're ready for you, Noggy.
Cheers.

-- Folwren

[Groin Redbeard]

Groin, that's quite a post! Poor Thornden! Poor Erbrand! Such a misunderstanding! And he stormed off, so Thornden doesn't have a chance to answer!
Did you want to post?:eek: I'm sorry, the reason I ended the discussion was because I remembered Nogrod saying he'll get the game posted today. Tell you what I'll take out the last sentence in my post so that Thornden may respond if he wishes, and if Nogrod posts the game I'll simply edit my post.:)

[Nogrod]

if Nogrod posts the game I'll simply edit my post.:)No need to rush people. Lommy and Greenie just went to their mother's place and I'm starting to pick up the pieces for the Q-staff -thing. It will anyway take a few posts - which also means a few days - to have it done.

Sorry to rain on your game, Noggie, but the three way quarterstaff fight seems unworkable to me. I suggest a play-in round by non-soldiers and less experienced soldiers instead. Up to you, of course. The problem with the latter is that it calls for 11 matches of quarterstaff fighting... I'm afraid I'll run out ideas before it's completed - and it takes hours to write and read. :confused:

But I'm working on a concept right now and here's a few I've been entertaining myself with thus far. If anyone is around, please comment:

1. Totally anarchic three way fight, everyone against the two others. Short-lived alliances, treachery, cunning "back-whacking" (thanks for the term Foley!).

2. A litle more ordered three way fight where at any time there are only two fighting each other but either one can call the third one to the fray in their place by fex. touching them with the staff or something.

3. A team fight (teams of two or three). The teams might be something naturallish like "resident craftsmen", "newcomers", "household staff"... whatever, depending mostly on whether there would be teams of two or three.

4. Other?


I'll be online for a few hours so please feek free to come forwards with your opinions.

[Nogrod]

I think I'm going to make it a team event after all. After looking at the contestants and considering the amount of writing (and reading for you... :rolleyes:) it's the easier way still promising nice opportunities to come up with fun suprises and stuff like that. There's ample room for all kinds of teamplay and mayhem but it could be held together better than the anarchic three way fight.

Now I'm just asking for your opinions on the following line-ups eg. whether it should be a two-man teams or three-man -teams game.


My suggestions for the teams would be as follows.

Pair-game:

Eodwine 43
Thornden 25
*easy, the leaders*

Balvir 40+
Lithor 49
*elderly soldiers*

Aethelstan 23
Osmund 21
*soldiers, were already together in the wood-mission*

Garstan 35
Stigend 30
*the craftsman-duo*

Harreld 35
Erbrand 28
*both are craftsmen as well*

Dan 24
Crabannan 38
*the newcomers who are not craftsmen*

Three-man teams:

Eodwine
Thornden
Balvir
*leaders*

Lithor
Aethelstan
Osmund
*soldiers*

Garstan
Stigend
Harreld
*resident craftsmen*

Erbrand
Dan
Crabannan
*newcomers*


If you wish, we can make the winning team members fight it out in the end to find out the single champion... but I'm not sure how good an idea it would be.

Also, if you strongly protest against a team-game or the line-ups I've suggested * I'll promise to reconsider this.


* the line-ups could be made via lottery as well...


PS. A pair-game would be nice but it has some logistical problems as it leads to six games and thence for three winners... but using lmp's suggestion of a "play-in" might solve that; but who should be the two pairs that could just relax the first round, the leaders and the elderly soldiers? That might be plausible.

[Folwren]

So, the teams would be fighting against each other? For instances, Thornden and Eodwine would fight against Balvir and Lithor? That might be interesting. In a sense, it would at first be like two individual bouts going on. And then, once one contestant on one team was knocked down, it would be two against one, and that person would quickly be overcome. Is this right? It sounds interesting. People could have all sorts of opportunity to come up with strategies or something.

I think if you'd rather do that and can't think of any other quick way that you could write it, then I wouldn't mind. I'm just speaking for myself. :)

By the way, thanks for your help on the issue I PMed you about.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

And then, once one contestant on one team was knocked down, it would be two against one, and that person would quickly be overcome. Is this right? Possibly... there might be room for some heroism as well... we'd need to see what the dices say. :)

But you got the idea right.

can't think of any other quick way that you could write it
There are no quick ways for me... only less gigantic ones. :rolleyes:

[Nogrod]

Wilcred has taken over the leading of the Q-staff game from Lithor and announced the general rules.

You have something like 24 hours to post before the first matches. Unless I'm more busy tomorrow I hope I am at the moment. But I should be able to post the first matches tomorrow around this time.

Meanwhile I'm (sleeping & going to work) awaiting for your suggestions for the mechanics of the game.

[Folwren]

Groin, don't bother editing. I'll post something, but Thornden doesn't have to say anything more to Erbrand. He's got plently to think about which I can write on. :D

It was a great post.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Groin, don't bother editing. I'll post something, but Thornden doesn't have to say anything more to Erbrand. He's got plently to think about which I can write on. :D

It was a great post.

-- Foley

Harreld could not quite stay out of it. Let's assume that he heard Erbrand's final jibe - er - I mean words. Feel free, Foley, to write some appropriate words for Harreld if you want to have him for Thornden to talk to.

[Folwren]

Oh! He's alreayd edited! I see! I see! Excellent. This is even more fun. I am definitely deriving FAR too much pleasure from this.

I'll post tonight.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

I think I like what you've had Harreld say, Foley. I was considering asking you to change it so that Harreld demands an apology from Erbrand for Thornden's sake, but upon consideration, that's something Eodwine would do, not Harreld. So it's just right how it is. I like how Thornden stays above it. Hee hee! I like the good cop/bad cop action here. :D

[Folwren]

Great. I was a little worried that I handled things wrong.

Groin, what about your character? Did I do alright by him?

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

Foley and Groin! :D *dies laughing*

[Nogrod]

Looking at the latest developements I must say this quartestaff-fight will become quite a game indeed. Just look up above and see that I had planned Erbrand and Harreld to be a pair in the fight!!! :eek:

I will be letting an unbalanced lottery to decide the outcomes but it is very well possible that if Erbrand and Harreld will go through they might meet Thornden and Eodwine as well... Quite a nice situation. Should I unbalance the dices a bit more to assure that actually happens? :D

Okay, I won't push it. But we'll see.

If you people have any ideas how your characters would react to those possible scenarios, please let me know. First it would be a question of how Harreld and Erbrand would fight together as a team?

[Nogrod]

PS. (this time meaning "pro-scriptum") If you wish not to spoil the fight, read the actual thread first... ;)


But to all those wishing to have a sneak-view behind the scenes of the first match here's the deal.

1. AH
2. OH
3. AH
4. DH
5. OH
6. CH
7. CH
8. CK
9. AH
10. AH
11. CFH
12. CH
13. CH
14. DK
15. DH
16. OK
17. AH
18. AH
19. AFH
20. OH
21. OH
22. AH
23. CH
24. DH
25. CH
26. OH
27. AH
28. AFH
29. AH
30. AH
31. DH
32. OH
33. OFH
34. OFH
35. CFH
36. AH
37. OH
38. DH
39. CH
40. AK
41. OH
42. DFH
43. DH
44. CH
45. AFH
46. OFH
47. DH
48. OH
49. DH
50. CFH
51. OH
52. AFH

:)

I only managed to advance to the 11th. step. Both Dan and Osmund would have had some nice moves just coming... But this really ended quickly - and just the way it should have if one looks at how it went... Scary :eek:

So what is it?

XH is X gives a hit to someone
XFH is X gives a forceful hit to someone eg. makes a great performance
XK is X makes a winning move against someone

*

The number of hits given to any person involved is in proportion to their stamina and energy, the number of forceful hits is in proportion to their strengtht, superior agility or balance gives one the possibility of ducking a hit etc... And all that was run through a randomiser (this (http://www.random.org) is just plain wonderful site!) giving me this result. You'll see it verbalised in the thread.

I may upgrade my system for the next round actually adding some "outstanding saving manouvers" there as well so that it's not only the number of hits coming first to determine the result. Well, it was not so much of that this time but I can see it might go that way pretty easily, with less outstanding luck.


And if Harreld and Erbrand have issues, those need to take precedence. So what do you think elempi and Groin?


* Of course A means Aethelstan, O means Osmund, D is for Dan and C for Crabannan...

[Nogrod]

Gwath and Eonwë

I made a short dialogue between your characters in the beginning of my post and I dared to enter Crabannan's mind in the latter part of the post. Please let me know if it's okay or if I should change something.

[Groin Redbeard]

Excellent job Nogrod, you did a wonderful job with capturing the action!

Foley, you did fine with Erbrand. That's probably what I would've written as well.;)

You paired Harreld and Erbrand up? This will be awkward!:eek: I think that this will mean that they will act less like a team and more like individuals. What do you think Elempi?

The posting button isn't working for me on the Scarburg Hall so I'm going to post Erbrand's response here. If one of y'all could post it for me in the RPG I will be very grateful. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

“That is what I wished in the first place, but if you will not seek me out in the games I will seek you out and force you to fight against me!”

Erbrand’s temper had cooled since his outburst against Thornden’s first scolding, and with the coming of Harreld his temper lessened. Nevertheless, he was agitated by the smith’s prying about his private quarrel with Harreld.

“As for you master blacksmith,” Erbrand said, “I did not know that this matter concerned you.”

“This matter concerns my friend, you best be getting ready now.”

The smith was stern in his speech, and it wounded Erbrand again being told what to do.
For two long years Erbrand had been pitied or rejected for his solitude. This was not what he wanted and his temper had become hotter and his attitude colder towards his prying neighbors of Aldburg, Harreld sounded just like them and it brought those unpleasant memories. His fists were clenched as if ready to strike and resist the familiar words of rebuke. Erbrand was tired of being shoved around, but he still had the wits to see that he could only make matters worse by staying, so with a slight nod he left both of them.

[Nogrod]

Should that post for Erbrand be attached to the end of Foley's last post rather than after the first Q-staff fight? I'm happy with how it is now - and thanks Kath for acting on it. But storywise it would fit better before the fight as they should watch out the first game and concentrate on their match...

Not a big deal, that is, just a suggestion...

[Folwren]

I can put it at the end of mine if no one else has posted it. :)

Does that mean that Erbrand and Thornden have to fight now? I mean, if he's officially asked him to...or something...

I have to get back to class. I'll see if someone else posted Groin's post, and if not, I'll do so, and then I'm out of here.

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Does that mean that Erbrand and Thornden have to fight now? I mean, if he's officially asked him to...or something...Ha ha, I could imagine the two chasing each other around the ring, Thornden trying to get away and Erbrand trying to brain him with a staff!:D Erbrand really wants to fight Thornden and has insisted on it, so I'm sure there would be no disgrace if Thornden accepts the challenge. However, if he declines... *rubs his hands in anticipation*:D

[Folwren]

Ha ha, I could imagine the two chasing each other around the ring, Thornden trying to get away and Erbrand trying to brain him with a staff! :D Erbrand really wants to fight Thornden and has insisted on it, so I'm sure there would be no disgrace if Thornden accepts the challenge. However, if he declines... *rubs his hands in anticipation*:D

Woah! Wrong picture! Wrong picture!

Quite humorous, mayhap, but Thornden won't run. He's not a coward, for goodness' sake! He'll ask not to fight, but if it comes out that they have to, he'll fight him.

As for a later challenge...well...I WAS going to tell you what Thornden would do, but I'm going to let you wait and see.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

And in any case Erbrand and Harreld have to pull it together enough to beat Garstan and Stigend first before Erbrand can start thinking about meeting Thornden in a fight... :)

[Nogrod]

A question on people's priorities.

I seem to have quite a rush on the rest of the week + the weekend so which one would you prefer? That you get more detailed Q-staff fights even if the last one would then come sometime next week (I might be able to write a couple of them between now and Monday and the last ones would then be written sometime next week) or that we'll get done away with the Q-staff fight a.s.a.p. when I could write them off before Monday but they would be a lot less detailed and kind of general descriptions of how the fights went?

If you have enough interaction between you going on I'd prefer the first one but if you feel you'd like to move forwards more quickly the second option is okay to me as well.

In any case I think Erbrand should answer Harreld before I go on writing the fight with Erbrand and Harreld involved...

[Nogrod]

I think it best if I took on the more nimbler of our opponents while you take on the stouter fighter.Should I read this that Erbrand wishes to go for Stigend and suggests Harreld should take on Garstan? I mean that was the exact way I thought Stigend and Garstan would think about their "division of labour"; Stigend going for Erbrand and Garstan trying to handle Harreld... :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Should I read this that Erbrand wishes to go for Stigend and suggests Harreld should take on Garstan? I mean that was the exact way I thought Stigend and Garstan would think about their "division of labour"; Stigend going for Erbrand and Garstan trying to handle Harreld...
If Stigend is the nimbler of the two, yes you read it correctly.:)

Woah! Wrong picture! Wrong picture!Would it be funnier if Thornden chased Erbrand around?:rolleyes::D

[Folwren]

Would it be funnier if Thornden chased Erbrand around?:rolleyes:

Anything could scarcely be funnier but it might be more appropriate. ;) I'm kidding! I don't mean to indicate any lack of bravery on Erbrand's side!

Nogrod, I love your detailed posts. At the same time, I'm terribly impatient. So I'm not a good person to ask if either you should write longer posts and take a longer time or if you should get it all over with but with less detail. I'd be happy either way. That does not help, does it? :rolleyes:

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Nogrod, when you write your post for Erbrand and Harreld in the quarterstaff fight, you may begin it with Harreld agreeing to Erbrand's idea.

I am quite busy lately, and can manage to wait a bit so if you want to write the detailed kind of fight, I'm okay with it.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod, when you write your post for Erbrand and Harreld in the quarterstaff fight, you may begin it with Harreld agreeing to Erbrand's idea.That will be done. I'll try to make later today (after I've done some essay-reading...).

[Folwren]

Well, to pass the time of day, I have written a post for Saeryn.

I have two things to say. One, it is very interesting writing about one character talking so about another of my characters... And two, I have been reading far too much Jane Austen lately, clearly.

-- Foley

[Lhunardawen]

"But just between you and me, I think that if our smith had not gotten such a fire lit in his heart for Ginna, I would have expected that she'd make a good match for our Thornden. What think you?"

Oh my goodness. :D I guess this means you guessed correctly? You know, I really wanted Ginna and Thornden to be an item from the very beginning, but Harreld won even ME over. :D It would have been interesting, though. Don't you think so, Foley?

Hahaha, suddenly I can't wait to bring Randvér to the Hall. :p

[Folwren]

Oh my goodness. :D I guess this means you guessed correctly? You know, I really wanted Ginna and Thornden to be an item from the very beginning, but Harreld won even ME over. :D It would have been interesting, though. Don't you think so, Foley?

Hahaha, suddenly I can't wait to bring Randvér to the Hall. :p

Don't I think...? What? lol! Caught even ME off guard there! I didn't know it was an option. That's hilarious. I guess it could've been a go, but I don't know what's going to happen once Randver comes, so I won't say anything at all about whether it'll be possible in the future at all...

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

:D Amusing post, Foley. At first when you had Saeryn and Rowenna look at each other, I thought they were silently reading each others' minds the way matchmaking women sometimes seem to do. :p But since you didn't go that way, I think I'll have Rowenna be stupendously dense as to Saeryn's thoughts this time; precisely because Rowenna, literally, cannot (as in incapable of it) imagine matching up with Thornden. It would simply never occur to her. ;)

[Folwren]

:D Amusing post, Foley. At first when you had Saeryn and Rowenna look at each other, I thought they were silently reading each others' minds the way matchmaking women sometimes seem to do. :p But since you didn't go that way, I think I'll have Rowenna be stupendously dense as to Saeryn's thoughts this time; precisely because Rowenna, literally, cannot (as in incapable of it) imagine matching up with Thornden. It would simply never occur to her.

Oh, you can make Rowenna think whatever she likes! I think Saeryn was just looking at her because she was thinking so hard about her and Thornden. ;)

-- Foley

P.S. It is slightly amusing, slightly annoying, that this board only allows three smiley faces per post. I'm on another board where you can do as many as you like, and I tell you....some people go bonkers with them. It's mostly the women who do that.

[Thinlómien]

P.S. It is slightly amusing, slightly annoying, that this board only allows three smiley faces per post. I'm on another board where you can do as many as you like, and I tell you....some people go bonkers with them. It's mostly the women who do that.You could have removed the smileys from LMP's quote... ;)

Don't I think...? What? lol! Caught even ME off guard there! I didn't know it was an option. That's hilarious. I guess it could've been a go, but I don't know what's going to happen once Randver comes, so I won't say anything at all about whether it'll be possible in the future at all...I already gloated in Lhuna's LJ, but I'll gloat again: I did guess that... ;)

[Folwren]

You could have removed the smileys from LMP's quote... ;)

What! And change it from a direct quote! I did, actually. I took his last smiley out.

I already gloated in Lhuna's LJ, but I'll gloat again: I did guess that... ;)

Eh...stop your gloating and write a post for Cnebba and Garmund. ;) What's an LJ? Little joke?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

What's an LJ? Little joke?

Livejournal, typically. Or Laura Jones. You've no idea how confused I get when people abbreviate their blogs around me...

[Nogrod]

The second Q-staff fight is finally up.

It was interesting indeed as the randomiser gave me the outline where Erbrand first evades beautifully, then performs in a great manner only to be denied by Stigend's evasion and followed by a total beating by Stigend against Erbrand. The first thing concerning Harreld vs. Garstan came up on slot 10.!

But then the randomiser went on making Garstan champion over Harreld and there I stopped. We need to see the Erbrand vs. Thornden fight! So I deviated from the randomiser and made Erbrand & Harreld win in the end.

Without throwing a dice I now suggest that Erbrand and Harreld should meet Eodwine & Thornden in the semifinal. There is too much risk in making E & H meet Dan & Crabannan and losing - and I wouldn't like to stray from the randomiser again and I really think Erbrand and Thornden need to go for it, whatever way it turns out.

I mean if you randomise something and then decide you don't like the outcome you then make it again... and how if you don't like that either? Try the third time? Or the fourth? So what's the status of randomness anymore?

---

So Foley and Groin, give me both your thoughts on how your characters would react to hearing the news that they will be set against each other in the fight and how do you see the relative strenghts of them?

And lmp as well, if you think Eodwine or Harreld would like to block the possibility of those two fighting each other by insisting on fighting the other of them, let me hear it.

Or whatever you think yourt characters would think about the situation...

[Nogrod]

Btw. Groin please do not think there is anything like moral high-ground in there. Had the situation been reversed I would have surely written the things in the same manner.

So if you unbalance your opponent and he falls backwards he can see you and what you do and thence is still dangerous and you should go for the eliminating blow - but if you manage to throw your opponent face forwards to the ground (and manage to hit him while he falls) he will be out of the game for a moment and unable to parry so there you can think of a wish to not mutilate him if it's a fight for fun and not for life and death...

As we talked in the PM's, I do hope this gives you even more possibilities to play with your character! He surely is in a pressing spot now! :) Not to say that he needs to meet Thornden right away! Some pressure indeed!

Also lmp and Lhuna; I hope the "go of it" serves the romance in one way or the other... whatever you decide. :rolleyes:


And like always, if anything needs to be changed just point it to me and I'll do it.

[Gwathagor]

I'm really enjoying the quarter-staff fights, Nogrod.

[Groin Redbeard]

Awesome fight description Nogrod. Thanks for having Erbrand move to the next round, although either way would have been entertaining this is just too cool!:D

So Foley and Groin, give me both your thoughts on how your characters would react to hearing the news that they will be set against each other in the fight and how do you see the relative strenghts of them? Erbrand will have a mixed feeling of anger at himself for losing, but he'll be glad that he will have a chance to fight Thornden. Foley, I'm coming for you!:)

Well Thornden has got the upper-hand, that is clear to see. However, what Erbrand doesn't have in experience he has in instinct. Having been an experienced hunter, he can be stealthy and quick witted, but he is not (as I have said before) incredibly nimble. However, Erbrand is almost as strong and Harreld (I saw that from a post, I can't remember who posted it).

Perhaps if I have time, I'll post something to show how Erbrand is feeling, but I very much doubt that I have time today. You're doing a wonderful job, Nogrod, I absolutely love your fight posts. :)

[littlemanpoet]

I may regret this, but I thought I'd try WISYWIG, or whatever it's called, just to see what it makes available. If anything.

Hmm.. do I owe Saeryn a response from Eodwine? *goes to take a look*

Nope, it's just a matter of whether Saeryn wants to reply to Rowenna about her plans. Foley?

[Firefoot]

Umm... WISYWIG?

[piosenniel]

WYSIWYG :

What You See Is What You Get

HERE's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG)some info.

[Nogrod]

Thanks Pio!

And nice to see you hanging around. Somehow you're just so invisible otherwise. We should probably make more of these enigmatic statements to get you more involved... :)


Anyway. If someone thinks the Q-staff fights are becoming a bit too violent, Wilcred will call for easier fighting anyway in the next match as he's worried as well. We'll just need to see how the two can hold themselves back. :D

[Nogrod]

And lmp as well, if you think Eodwine or Harreld would like to block the possibility of those two fighting each other by insisting on fighting the other of them, let me hear it.

Or whatever you think yourt characters would think about the situation...Just reminding of this. I'm not sure I'm able to write that match between Harreld & Erbrand vs. Eodwine & Thornden tomorrow but it is coming... Meanwhile you could give me instructions to affect the fight. Otherwise I will go with my own hunches about the situation and then look at the randomizer...

And sorry Gwath and Eonwë but your characters had no chance in that last one... Well they were professional soldiers anyway up against those two and even if Crabannan made it a fight a war-veteran should do he was just outmatched... and outnumbered...

[Folwren]

I'll reply for Saeryn tomorrow, very probably. Sorry I haven't done it sooner - I've been a distracted mess these past two or so days.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

WYSIWYG is ok. It doesn't really make much of a difference. I was hoping to be able to do REAL formatting. Oh well.

[piosenniel]

Thanks Pio!

And nice to see you hanging around. Somehow you're just so invisible otherwise. We should probably make more of these enigmatic statements to get you more involved...:)

Oh, I'm always 'hanging around' here in the RPG fora.....actually, I generally read every post to them..... :cool:

~*~ Pio

[littlemanpoet]

Foley:

First, would Saeryn speak so freely to Rowenna, with Eodwine sitting at her left (I think), about that which has not yet been spoken of except in general terms? I speak, of course, of the expected union of S & E.

Second, if Rowenna were to stay at Scarburg (not saying she will), who would write her in my extended absence? I fear I am going to be quite picky about how Rowenna is handled, as I have drawn her more carefully and exactly than any other character I have here, and I wouldn't like her to change, even inadvertently, except for such changes as come through the rigors of time and circumstance.

[Folwren]

Foley:

First, would Saeryn speak so freely to Rowenna, with Eodwine sitting at her left (I think), about that which has not yet been spoken of except in general terms? I speak, of course, of the expected union of S & E.

Elempi! I thought Eodwine was off fighting! No, Saeryn wouldn't talk like that with him sitting there. She's talking with Rowenna like two girl friends would talk about up coming possibilities.

Second, if Rowenna were to stay at Scarburg (not saying she will), who would write her in my extended absence? I fear I am going to be quite picky about how Rowenna is handled, as I have drawn her more carefully and exactly than any other character I have here, and I wouldn't like her to change, even inadvertently, except for such changes as come through the rigors of time and circumstance.

Oh. Well, if that's the case, perhaps I can. I can't promise doing her justice, but I think I have an idea of her character, and that's a start. The most difficult thing I see at this point with her character is just how much has she changed this day with the different things that have happened? She's been softened, sure, but how much? She's lost her main goal (Eodwine), but does that mean she won't set another goal and try to reach it?

She doesn't have to stay - Saeryn is just hoping she does and trying to suggest a way to make it possible.

If that post is inccorect and in ways inappropriate, I can remove it. When writing it, I was really uncertain of it myself...

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

I love it how Folwren takes over and saves all the abandoned, interesting characters... ;)

And guess what people? I know I haven't written anything in ages, but I'm rather busy, and I have the feeling I'm not actually needed currently, so that's why I'm being so silent. If I have spare time and I'm not dead tired some day soon, I'll write something just to keep an appearance, so to speak. :rolleyes::)

[littlemanpoet]

If that post is inccorect and in ways inappropriate, I can remove it. When writing it, I was really uncertain of it myself...
Let's assume Eodwine isn't near. Just leave the post as it is. It's fine.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

I am sorry to bother you and ask for such a slight alteration but in your post, could you change this:

"Rowenna! No, I don't mean anything like-"

To, "No, Rowenna, you mistake me!"

Thanks. :)

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

A very sensible alteration. Consider it done.

However, your little OOC comment in your last post really must go. ;)

[Folwren]

A very sensible alteration. Consider it done.

However, your little OOC comment in your last post really must go. ;)

lol! Consider that done, too! It was purely a joke, and now that the proper recipiant has seen it, I'll take it out. I hope it made you chuckle.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

lol! Consider that done, too! It was purely a joke, and now that the proper recipiant has seen it, I'll take it out. I hope it made you chuckle.

-- FoleyYes, there was a chuckle. :)

Perhaps, if you are willing, you can add Rowenna's happy assent to the end of your post, to watch the quarterstaff fights; with appropriate wording.

[Folwren]

Perhaps, if you are willing, you can add Rowenna's happy assent to the end of your post, to watch the quarterstaff fights; with appropriate wording.

Sure! When I have more time, I'll do that. My last final is today, so I need to study now, though. :)

-- Foley

[Folwren]

K, Elempi, I edited my post, let me know if that works.

[Nogrod]

I've been overpowered by reality and have not been able to give a single thought to this but happily there seems to be at least something going on! Good to see you on it lmp and Foley!

I'll try to come up with the second semifinal and the final asap.

[Gwathagor]

Who's this, LMP?

[littlemanpoet]

Who's this, LMP?Um, I don't know.... ;) We'll find out as events unfold. :cool: I'll say this much: he's not an Istari.

[Gwathagor]

Hee hee. Are you prepared to kill him?

[Folwren]

lol! I guess Elempi was bored. :p

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Interesting indeed... Santa Claus? :D

[Groin Redbeard]

Interesting indeed... Santa Claus? :D

Or Oeric perhaps?:)

[Eönwë]

Or Oeric perhaps?:)

I have my suspicions...;)

[littlemanpoet]

Your suspicion is incorrect, Eonwe. ;)

Oeric is not my character to write.

Nor is Santa Claus. :p

Bored? Yes, I suppose that had something to do with it, but the character had been on my mind for at least a week prior to the post.

Kill him? I don't think that would be too easy... ;)

[Eönwë]

What about "the wandereing spirit of Elempi"? :p

[Groin Redbeard]

Kill him? I don't think that would be too easy... ;) Well LMP has already given us this first clue: he's a fighter. Hmm... I'm guessing that he's the long lost brother of Eodwine who he use to lockup in the wine cellar and has now come to act his revenge upon Eodwine and his subjects. Am I on the right path?:cool:

[littlemanpoet]

Well LMP has already given us this first clue: he's a fighter. Hmm... I'm guessing that he's the long lost brother of Eodwine who he use to lockup in the wine cellar and has now come to act his revenge upon Eodwine and his subjects. Am I on the right path?:cool:Nope, wrong, Groin. Where did you get "fighter" from? Not saying you're wrong, not saying you're right; just curious.

You all might find out more by interacting with the character than making guesses here. Kapeesh? ;)

[Groin Redbeard]

Nope, wrong, Groin. Where did you get "fighter" from? Not saying you're wrong, not saying you're right; just curious. From you when you replied to Gwathagor.

Hee hee. Are you prepared to kill him?
Kill him? I don't think that would be too easy...
Oh well, I guess I'll find out who he is soon enough.

You all might find out more by interacting with the character than making guesses here. Kapeesh? ;)I plan to!:) Unfortunately my character is tangled up with the staff fights.:(

[Eönwë]

Hmm... Intriguing, LMP!

*Is intrigued*

[Folwren]

Has Nogrod disappeared? I am dying to see how the quarterstaff fight goes and who beats whom between Erbrand and Thornden and whether or not one or the other loses his temper....and all that fun stuff. :D

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Has Nogrod disappeared? I am dying to see how the quarterstaff fight goes and who beats whom between Erbrand and Thornden and whether or not one or the other loses his temper....and all that fun stuff. :DSeconded!:D

[Nogrod]

I've not disappeared but even we non-belivers celebrate Christmas / Yule with our families and relatives... :)

I'm going to try and write the next one today - I have indeed made the randomization already so I only need to turn that piece of data into a narrative. Sorry about the slowness but sometimes RL takes precedence. :rolleyes:

[Folwren]

Yes, I figured Christmas had bogged everyone down, but I'd been waiting so long that my patience ran out and I decided to give it a slight nudge. ;)

I am glad to hear that you think you'll be able to write something soon.

-- Foley

[Thinlómien]

I'll post something today or tomorrow... :)

[Nogrod]

Sorry it took time but I have been trying to tidy up in my place as Legate is coming to a visit... :)

And like normally, please let me know if I have used your characters in a way you think does not seem fit. I have only followed my instincts about them - and the randomiser... I'll be happy to change anything you think should be changed.

But as it went I think it leaves nice open possibilities for Thornden and Erbrand to either reconciliate or to go on continuing the row - as you wish.

The final will be between Eodwine and Thornden against their veteran captains. It will be up here tomorrow (in 24 hours).

[Nogrod]

lmp you gave a hard one as I think many of the writers are either engaged with the QS fights or not in a position to go on questioning strangers... Cnebba would have loved to go on asking but he has a role in looking at the flags at the fights so I then decided to make Stigend approach the old man.

So feel free to write and use Stigend as you wish, or PM me if you have any special ideas... or maybe we should build a post together for it? Depending on what you have in mind. I will be around the next day or two before Legate comes so feel free to PM me about any possible ideas / conversation...

[Folwren]

Great posts, Nogrod! I'm glad Elempie's old fellow is finally engaged in conversation!

The fighting was great. I've posted, Groin, as you see, to engage in conversation to see just where Erbrand is right now. You may continue the row, as Noggy puts it, if you wish. :D

Cheers!

-- Ellie

[Thinlómien]

Alright, Kath, now you have to come up with a reason for Frodides not to have paid proper attention to the stranger... ;)

[Kath]

Um ... because her writer skim read the post and didn't realise her character could have had a nice chat? :o Guess not.

I'll have a think and get back to you with a reply tomorrow hopefully. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Nice fighting Nogrod, though I am sad that my character lost.:(;) I'm looking forward to the final fight.


The fighting was great. I've posted, Groin, as you see, to engage in conversation to see just where Erbrand is right now. You may continue the row, as Noggy puts it, if you wish.Hmmm... I don't know yet. I'll get my post up right now.

EDIT: I thought that since the fight had just ended and his temper is at it's height that Erbrand would refuse Thornden's offer of help. Sorry Folwren, but perhaps it will make for some interesting events later on.