Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 15

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-18-2011, 01:41 PM

Posted for Hilderinc - by the way, just so that things are clear, because to me they were not: I am coming from the assumption that Rowenna had not been present in Scarburg during the time after Athanar had taken over, therefore Hilderinc does not know her.

I used the logical conclusion: it seems that those who have ever mentioned Rowenna lately (namely, LMP) have been counting on her not being present in Scarburg in the first place. Likewise, her name had popped up like three times since the coming of Athanar, and one of those (the latest) was in one post of Lommy's, where some character had said, "she is gone now, I don't know where". Before that, there are a few posts of Fea's and one of Lommy's which seem to indicate that Rowenna was present during the first day(s?), but there is no evidence of her being around later. Therefore, my general conclusion would be that game-wise, she probably was there very shortly in the beginning, but then she had left, and during the short time of her stay, most people didn't get the chance to really get to know her. Therefore, Hilderinc, for example, does not remember her.

I am just saying this in hope this does not conflict with anybody else's perception of the situation (in general, I think most people probably won't have more or less any perception of the situation, "out-of-the-game"-speaking, I'd say we had simply forgotten about her earlier completely).

littlemanpoet

10-18-2011, 05:39 PM

You are pretty much correct, Legate. Rowenna left Scarburg shortly after the wedding of Eodwine & Saeryn, returning with Degas to "the Folde". She returned to Scarburg with Eodwine when he came back from Minas Tirith.

Firefoot

10-20-2011, 07:30 PM

Hey all - sorry I've sort of disappeared in the last week but my classes have suddenly gotten very busy... and combined with that I'm not feeling terribly creative. I may have some time to post something tomorrow morning, but if not it probably won't be until Sunday night sometime.

Folwren

10-21-2011, 10:15 PM

Elempi and I wrote that last post together.

littlemanpoet

10-22-2011, 07:59 AM

Hee hee! :D So Foley's other character decides that Saeryn is alright after all. :D

Folwren

10-22-2011, 08:48 AM

I know, I'm biased. I admit it freely. It's really quite bad. But it's all Garreth's fault. If he hadn't put down the Lady Eowyn, perhaps Quin wouldn't have reacted in the opposite direction.

Actually, I think I'm almost entirely unfit to write any male character. :( Excepting Thornden, I guess. I need to get him back into the action.

-- Foley

Galadriel55

10-22-2011, 01:00 PM

I was keeping track of the passions of the Hall for a while now (though I still can’t say that I feel like I know my way around, hehe :D), and recently an idea for a character of my own came up. I hope you don't mind... :Merisu:

Name Ledwyn

Age/Gender/Race/Where from: 26, Female, Eorling, West Emnet (now just over 31)

Appearance: Long light-brown plaited hair and grey eyes. Slightly taller than average. Frail. Prefers plain, practical clothing to delicate and ornamented ones. Slightly pale. During the Hard Winter, suffered from frostbite which left one of the fingers on her left hand permanently blackened.

Personality/Bio: Ledwyn is swayed easily by another’s words, but if she has her own opinion it is a strong one. She is very sensitive and even a small remark can hurt her; she takes life too seriously in general. She rarely speaks openly about her thoughts and feelings, though they are always written plainly on her face. She lacks confidence in herself and acts self-consciously. She is quick to forgive but slow to forget.

After her husband died a year ago in an accident Ledwyn lived with her younger brother. However, after her brother’s marriage life in the small house got rather crowded, and Ledwyn insisted on moving to the Scarburg Mead Hall with her young son because she decided that “it is all her fault”. She would not hear any arguments from her brother and sister-in-law.

Update: Did not change much. Still takes life too seriously and is therefore vulnerable to teasing. With the influence of the other women, she became a bit more independent and a bit more able to hold her own, but is still very easily swayed by those people whom she respects. Overall, she became a tad less serious about everything and even a tad more "girly". However, as she began to befriend and trust the dwellers of the Hall and relax from the state of constant seriousness/concern, she started spending less time with Theolain, and to a degree started worrying less about what goes on with him.

And her son:

Name: Theolain

Age/Gender/Race/Where from: 2, Male, Eorling, West Emnet (now 7)

Appearance: In the middle of growth, clumsy and slightly chubby. The mop of dark blonde hair grows faster than it is cut. The eyes are grey, like Ledwyn’s. They are the only resemblance between mother and son.

Update: all the chubbiness is gone; possibly even leaning towards the skinny side. He is average sized for his age, no remarkable physical traits. He is stronger than he looks, and is a good climber. Still has light-coloured hair that is longer than usual, and still does not resemble Ledwyn.

Personality/Bio: His legs work faster than his mind.

Update: took very long to begin trusting the local people, including children. The one exception is Harreld, who he had taken a liking to early on. Took a long time and a lot of... adventures for him to begin opening up to other children, and even longer for adults. But, as time passed, he started to spend less time with others, but because adults assumed he is just off playing with the other kids and the kids assumed he stayed with the adults, and nothing out of ordinary ever happened to him, no one gave and mind. Also, lately, he stopped being as open to everyone who he was on good terms with before. He became not exactly secretive but rather closed.

Theolain died in the Hard Winter.

------

Linked (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=551131&postcount=2) ~*~ Pio

Folwren

10-22-2011, 01:11 PM

Yay, Galadriel! I am so glad that you decided to join us. I am looking forward eagerly to when you write your characters in. :D

-- Foley

Legate of Amon Lanc

10-22-2011, 04:47 PM

Hi, G55! It's good to see you around here, too :) Hope you're going to stay with us here and "get into it" soon and enjoy posting here, of course. :)

littlemanpoet

10-26-2011, 01:26 PM

Yay G55! Welcome! :)

I posted - moved the dinner along - to a time for music and dance. Hope everybody's okay with that.

Firefoot

10-26-2011, 04:56 PM

Good call, Elempi.

I'm going to try and post for both Scyld and Leof tomorrow.

Folwren

10-26-2011, 10:24 PM

I'm going to try and post for both Scyld and Leof tomorrow.

Question - did you post this before or after your announcement thing on facebook?

Firefoot

10-27-2011, 08:21 AM

Before - but the announcement was delayed to give us a chance to tell friends and family in person.

For those of you I'm not facebook friends with - I got engaged on Saturday. :D

Galadriel55

10-27-2011, 04:49 PM

Congratulations!!! :D

___

Thank you all for the welcome. I think I'll bring the characters in next morning game-time.

Folwren

10-30-2011, 06:37 PM

I think I just resurrected half of the names on the character's list.

Durelin, I did not put Tyrdda into the dance because I did not know where she was.

I also realize that I was very unkind to a lot of people with male characters by sticking in NPC guys to be dancing. :( Well, just have your characters cut in, if you want, I guess. Why not?

Wynflaed, Saeryn, and AEdre aren't dancing. Otherwise, I think I accounted for all the known girls in the post. That's kind of scary. Galadriel55, we will be so excited when you come and join us with your female character. Wow.

Firefoot, I hope Scyld and Aldric are watching while Thornden dances with Rowenna. :p (Now watch Elempi have Rowenna do something I don't expect...)

Firefoot

10-30-2011, 09:28 PM

Does anyone have any thoughts about hos cutting in might be handled in Rohirric culture? ;)

Wink aside, serious question...

littlemanpoet

10-31-2011, 09:32 AM

I'd say just handle it like you would any other western society.

Folwren

10-31-2011, 11:24 AM

Yeah, or wait until the current dance is done and then jump in before they can start dancing again. :D

Galadriel55

10-31-2011, 07:51 PM

Does anyone have any thoughts about hos cutting in might be handled in Rohirric culture? ;)

That depends on how many gallons of beer the man drunk. It may vary from politely telling the other man to get lost, to, without any extra words, punching him straight in the face. :D ;)

Firefoot

10-31-2011, 08:47 PM

Just checking. I'm not even sure if I'm thinking about it for Scyld or Aldric... it just seems like an interesting way to impose one of them upon Rowenna.

littlemanpoet

11-01-2011, 04:45 PM

I'm - er - dragging this out some, I guess. :p

Firefoot

11-01-2011, 08:50 PM

Yeah... I felt a little bad about interrupting you two (and with an NPC... kind of lame) when you just got started.

Also, Galadriel, so glad you're bringing in another female character. It seems nearly all our current ones have lost their writers (though I suppose that goes for a lot of the characters in general). :(

littlemanpoet

11-02-2011, 09:56 AM

I promise, I'll get to this today...

littlemanpoet

11-02-2011, 06:05 PM

Firefoot, I get a kick out of how much trouble you let Scyld get into. :)

Your turn, Firefoot.

Firefoot

11-02-2011, 07:21 PM

It just kind of happens... :rolleyes: :) I feel like I never know what's going to happen in the posts I write for Scyld until I sit down to write them. Leof is much easier/more predictable.

littlemanpoet

11-03-2011, 03:52 AM

Perfect setup, Firefoot. It shouldn't be this fun. :p

littlemanpoet

11-03-2011, 05:18 PM

Firefoot, I put a word on Scyld's lips and gave him some action. Let me know if anything needs altering.

Firefoot

11-04-2011, 10:00 AM

Your post is fine, Elempi. Over to you.

Folwren

11-06-2011, 12:07 AM

This is quite entertaining, this discourse between Nydfara and Rowenna cracks me up. Keep up the good work. :D

Tomorrow, I may find time once again to write something. :)

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

11-06-2011, 04:42 PM

I have to think about Harreld before I can post in response to Lhuna's post.

As always, I'm intrigued, Firefoot, as to Scyld's next move. ;)

Folwren

11-06-2011, 04:46 PM

I hope you feel guilty, Elempi - leaving a lovely girl standing all by herself on a dance floor! Do you have ANY idea how that feels? Awful, that's how. (I'm justing giving you a guilt trip...)

Lhuna, the post was superb. Her feelings and reactions are very realistic and believable.

-- Foley

Lhunardawen

11-06-2011, 07:27 PM

Thanks, Foley. Somehow something tells me I'd been in that kind of situation before. :D

Elempi, this is it. I don't think I'm ready for this conversation (needless to say, Ginna thinks the complete opposite). :p

Folwren

11-06-2011, 08:08 PM

Elempi, this is it. I don't think I'm ready for this conversation (needless to say, Ginna thinks the complete opposite). :p

Now I'm excited to see what's coming!! Ah! I think I can barely wait!

Firefoot

11-07-2011, 10:35 AM

Looks like Scyld's got a little bit of a Gollum moment going on. ;)

littlemanpoet

11-08-2011, 01:55 AM

Whatever could you mean, Lhuna? ;) I'm going to have to take another day before I post for Harreld, but I think I can get something up for Rowenna "post haste".

Folwren

11-08-2011, 03:33 PM

You two are flirting shamelessly! This is hilarious! :D

Still no time to post, but am enjoying the times I get to read very much indeed. :)

-- Foley

Folwren

11-09-2011, 10:12 PM

I'd've written more, only I didn't want to put words into Leof's mouth. I have an idea of where this might go, Firefoot, so hopefully we can make it exciting and not peter out...

Durelin and Legate, what of Tyrdda and Hilderinc?

-- Foley

Firefoot

11-09-2011, 11:35 PM

Haha! I love it, Folwren. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc

11-10-2011, 06:54 AM

Durelin and Legate, what of Tyrdda and Hilderinc?

It's Dury's turn, effectively; even though I must confess that I have been conveniently ignoring the matter whatsoever lately and not pressing it in any way since I've had others stuff on my hands, so I did not mind putting the game aside for a short while.

But does anybody have an idea about Dury? I get the impression she hasn't been around for quite a while.

littlemanpoet

11-10-2011, 05:26 PM

Firefoot, just when I think maybe I've made things a bit hard for you, you raise things to an even higher level. Hats off and a bow. Very impressed.

And I got a kick out of Léof's remembering. :D

Have writers group tonight - will post when I get a chance.

Firefoot

11-12-2011, 09:58 PM

*Bows* Over to you, Elempi.

Folwren

11-13-2011, 08:36 AM

I hope to post tonight. I've been out of town all weekend with no extra time to write. :)

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

11-13-2011, 06:41 PM

Back to you, Firefoot. The ebb and flow of - er - what one dares to say ..... ;)

Folwren

11-14-2011, 09:43 AM

More to come between Saeryn and Thornden later. Tomorrow, maybe. I wasn't expecting that post to be mostly about Thornden thinking about Rowenna and Nydfara.

And Firefoot, as to Leof and Quin, I left it open for Leof to say something to Quin or follow him, or whatever. Elempi suggested they have a little competition trying to get someone to dance with, but I really don't know how I'd start such a thing. Kinda at a loss about how young men tease each other.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

11-14-2011, 06:53 PM

Really quite simple Foley, "Bet you can't get her to dance with you".... "Oh yeah? I'll show you." and so on. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc

11-16-2011, 07:55 AM

*chimes in from the midst of forgottenness*

Although you seem to be having perfectly well enough fun on your own :) I can see Quin going out to look for Tyrdda a good spot for interacting with somebody again. But for that matter, the most interesting probably is the mere fact of poor Quin walking out and finding Tyrdda in discussion with Hilderinc - now that opens so much space for misunderstandings or whatever, so if it comes to that, Foley (or whoever's characters still go out there), don't hold back with anything that might come to your - or Quin's - mind! :)

Folwren

11-16-2011, 09:46 AM

Although you seem to be having perfectly well enough fun on your own :) I can see Quin going out to look for Tyrdda a good spot for interacting with somebody again. But for that matter, the most interesting probably is the mere fact of poor Quin walking out and finding Tyrdda in discussion with Hilderinc - now that opens so much space for misunderstandings or whatever, so if it comes to that, Foley (or whoever's characters still go out there), don't hold back with anything that might come to your - or Quin's - mind! :)

Sounds good, Legate. Do you want us to contact you when it comes to that? Or are you keeping an eye on this?

-- Foley

Legate of Amon Lanc

11-16-2011, 03:31 PM

Sounds good, Legate. Do you want us to contact you when it comes to that? Or are you keeping an eye on this?

-- Foley

Thanks, but I think it won't be necessary, I am more or less keeping an eye on this, even at the moments when I am not exactly reading everything, I at least check the thread if I don't spot the word "Hilderinc" or something else that might be relevant. So I'll keep watch :)

Galadriel55

11-18-2011, 02:46 PM

What a woman.

:D lol.

littlemanpoet

11-19-2011, 02:53 AM

There. That should give Scyld something to think about, as well as Quin when he comes back in to see his new friend dancing with the femme fatale. :D :Merisu:

littlemanpoet

11-20-2011, 07:37 PM

Hmmm... what is Rowenna going to say to Léof? Not sure. I'll have to think about this. Any suggestions?

Galadriel55

11-20-2011, 08:20 PM

Hmmm... what is Rowenna going to say to Léof? Not sure. I'll have to think about this. Any suggestions?

That the weather is great today. :p

There's the obvious "what do you think of Nydfara"... or the beaten up "what do you think of Eodwine's return"... Or, for something more original, you could turn the talk to Thornden and Saeryn. Or Falco. Or the going-ons outside of the Meadhall (Rowenna came from Edoras? Or from Minas Tirith? She could talk about that).

That's my two cents. Hope it gives you some ideas.

littlemanpoet

11-21-2011, 04:57 AM

Thanks, G55! That helps. I'm sure I'll find something out of your helpful list. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc

11-22-2011, 01:18 PM

Okay, so hope I didn't misuse Tyrdda too much and/or embarass/confuse Léof :)

Folwren

11-22-2011, 01:30 PM

Legate? It was Quin who stumbled upon them, not Leof. :)

-- Foley

Legate of Amon Lanc

11-22-2011, 03:20 PM

Legate? It was Quin who stumbled upon them, not Leof. :)

Oops. No idea how that came. Or, okay, I do have an idea how that came, since the two of them hang around with each other all the time ;) But anyway, duly edited :)

The funny thing is, before I started writing that, I checked which one of them that was, since I wasn't sure back then - and apparently still messed it up. Ah, whatever.

littlemanpoet

11-23-2011, 10:52 AM

Had to fix the co-post thusly.

"No more doubts, Ginna. We will do this together, yes?"

Ginna said nothing, choosing instead to return Harreld's embrace. She did not know how many seconds, minutes, or hours they had stayed that way when a thought came to her.

"Harreld?"

Folwren

11-23-2011, 04:32 PM

Well, Harreld and Ginna are happily engaged (congratulations, you two), the conversation and witty sparing between Nydfara and Rowenna appear to be finished...

What else needs to be done before we pass onto the next day? Tomorrow holds some interesting things for us and our characters - G55's characters' introduction, for instance, and Eodwine's redress of the issue concerning Scyrr and his insult. So, I'm excited to move forward.

And Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

11-23-2011, 04:39 PM

What else needs to be done before we pass onto the next day?

Thornden and Saeryn's dance. *hint hint* ;) :D

Happy Thanksgiving to all who give thanks this weekend!

Folwren

11-23-2011, 04:44 PM

Thornden and Saeryn's dance. *hint hint* ;) :D

*sigh* I was hoping ya'll would forget that. :rolleyes:

littlemanpoet

11-24-2011, 08:21 AM

*sigh* I was hoping ya'll would forget that. :rolleyes:
Not a chance. :D

Also, Harreld and Ginna need to make an entrance as beaming dancers that will get everybody else wondering. I intend to write that from Eodwine's point of view (at least for starters). And Léof still has to respond to Rowenna. Not to mention Quin and Hilderinc and Tyrddha (unless that happened and I haven't seen it yet).

Okay, they did. Just as I thought. My turn. Might not be today... Happy Thanksgiving!

littlemanpoet

11-25-2011, 04:07 PM

I'm okay with moving to the next Day. All we have to do is narrate some fitting conclusions to various conversation lines and call it a Night.

Firefoot, how would you feel about Léof telling Rowenna his story might take some time to tell and in the middle of a dance is not the best time, or something like that?

Are there any other plot lines that need to be put to sleep for the Night?

Firefoot

11-25-2011, 04:15 PM

LMP, sounds good. I can wrap up Leof and Rowenna's conversation in my next post. Leof's not terribly forthcoming about his whole story anyway, so that would work well.

Also, how long of a jump do we need to make? I don't know that we necessarily need to go on to the very next day... maybe a week would be better, let things settle out and give characters time to process recent events... unless there are things that actually need to happen on the next day.

littlemanpoet

11-25-2011, 04:22 PM

The only thing that really needs to occur is Eodwine calling for discipline to be applied to Scyrr. If that's it, I'm fine with writing that in retrospect.

Folwren

11-25-2011, 04:25 PM

What Elempi mentioned may be only one thing, but it's better than having nothing to go on, which is probably what we'd have if we skipped a while - besides G55's character coming in. With this Scyrr issue to deal with, we at least have a spring-board for ideas to come from.

Besides, what's the fun of writing stuff after everything's settled down? I think it'd be fun to see writers write their character figuring out what they think of these recent events.

My two cents.

-- Foley

Firefoot

11-26-2011, 10:29 AM

Okay, that's fine with me too. Just thought I'd throw the idea out there.

I wrapped up Leof and Rowenna; I'm ready to move on to the next day.

Folwren

11-26-2011, 10:32 AM

I'm ready for moving on, too. :)

littlemanpoet

11-26-2011, 11:18 AM

Firefoot, I'd like to request a slight adjustment to your post in regard to Rowenna's words.

“Some other time, then, you must tell me,” Rowenna said,

Could you please change this to:"Some other time, then," Rowenna said,

You see, she's very careful about making demands on others.

Firefoot

11-26-2011, 04:42 PM

Ah. Sure, no problem.

Folwren

11-26-2011, 07:57 PM

I will someday find what date it is and put that at the heading of my post...

I don't know if Lhuna is around to take up conversation with Saeryn. Do you know, Elempi?

And I imagine that most of the men won't be up for a while. It's probably something like five o'clock in the morning, and still pitch black outside. I say, skip however many hours as necessary to make the household stir.

-- Foley

Lhunardawen

11-26-2011, 08:18 PM

Yes, Foley, she is around. Barely, but she is. :)

Folwren

11-26-2011, 08:24 PM

Yay! I'm glad of that. :)

Folwren

11-28-2011, 12:03 PM

I think I killed it. :(

littlemanpoet

11-28-2011, 06:08 PM

What do you mean? The thread? I've been busy. I'll get around to it.

Firefoot

11-29-2011, 09:39 AM

Same. I have a ton of papers due the next couple of weeks, so I've been writing like mad... just not writing anything fun.

littlemanpoet

11-29-2011, 11:02 AM

Just today I started thinking about how I'd like to write an Elf - having him visit Scarburg, just passing through on his way to the Sea, taking one last look at what Humans are doing.

Folwren

11-29-2011, 11:28 AM

Oh, that would be cool, Elempi.

Galadriel55

11-29-2011, 09:26 PM

Well, I'm back... I'll start writing something for Ledwyn when time permits...

And and Elf would be fun indeed. :)

Nogrod

12-01-2011, 09:59 AM

It's great to see things are going on around here! Kudos for you all!

I think it is the first time in about three months I've gotten to the 'Downs. It has been a much too tight a fall for my taste. But no can do.

Anyway. I'll try to steal time to read what has happened since I've last contributed (it seems to be about four pages of the actual story) and I do hope - *fingers crossed* - that I might have time to contribute something more steadily once again from a week or two onwards.

If there is anything I should know apart from what has happened in the story itself, I'd be thankful for getting a short briefing about the general ideas flying around...

Folwren

12-01-2011, 10:51 AM

Nogrod, how fortunate to have you back! Apart from what you read on the thread, there's really nothing going on that you need to be briefed on...so far as I know, anyway. Some interesting things happened before the dancing started at the feast, though. :)

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

12-01-2011, 10:53 AM

Welcome back, Nogrod!

Do I need to do a character descrip for this elf? I suppose I will, considering I don't know how long he'll be visiting...?

littlemanpoet

12-03-2011, 11:03 AM

Okay, this may be a bit of a rough draft, but I want to get it up now.

Name Laerdil (song lover)

Age/Gender/Race/Where from: about 7 thousand years old, born in the First Age, of the Nandor (of the Teleri who never crossed the Misty Mountains), has lived long in Loth-lorien.

Appearance very tall, black hair, sad grey eyes, lean and not broad of build, looks very young until one searches his face. He wears an Elven cloak so that he is not seen unless he wants to be. Carries a long knife at his belt and bow and arrows. Also carries a harp and pipe.

Personality/Bio: Laerdil is a lover of songs, and plays and sings. He has lived in Loth-lorien almost his whole life. He has been involved in a few wars and has survived with minimal wounds in any of them. He did take a spouse and they had a son and daughter, but he has outlived them all. His wife was slain by orcs early in the 3rd Age on the edges of Lorien. His son died in the Battle of Dagorlad. His daughter took ship when Amroth drowned in the sea. He stayed so long out of love for Lorien and loyatly to Galadriel. Now the one fades and the other is gone. The Elves are leaving Lorien or they face fading themselves. Laerdil has determined to follow his daughter over the Sea. But having never wandered far during his life, he has decided that he will see what Men are making of Middle Earth. He has left Lorien and has come south into Rohan, traveling mostly at night for love of the stars.

The names of his wife and children will come later as needed. If anyone has questions that may aid me in filling out this description, more, please feel free to ask.

---

Linked (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=551131&postcount=2) ~*~ Pio

littlemanpoet

12-03-2011, 02:56 PM

It's a funny post, Firefoot, and I wouldn't ask you to change it for the world. But did you know that left and right footwear only came to be around 1850? ;)

http://inventors.about.com/od/sstartinventions/a/Shoes.htm

Firefoot

12-03-2011, 03:10 PM

Galadriel55

12-03-2011, 03:33 PM

It occurred to me, but I didn't feel like looking up the dates... maybe the Rohirrim just have technically advanced footwear? ;) :rolleyes:

I'll change it - thinking now, I have something else in mind...

Aww, that was a neat post. Made me laugh. And Elempi's facts are probably from a Shire history book, so it's safe to ignore them... :p

littlemanpoet

12-03-2011, 03:37 PM

Aww, that was a neat post. Made me laugh. And Elempi's facts are probably from a Shire history book, so it's safe to ignore them... :p

:D Funny, G55.

Firefoot

12-03-2011, 04:46 PM

I wouldn't trust anything the Hobbits had to say about shoes anyway. ;)

littlemanpoet

12-03-2011, 05:02 PM

:D Backwards breeches is better! And I like the alliteration. :D

littlemanpoet

12-05-2011, 07:11 PM

It has begun. Whoever wishes to see the Elf first, go ahead and post.

Folwren

12-05-2011, 10:07 PM

Ha! I don't know what to think of this elf, who comes to study the mere humans, with all their foibles and faults and weaknesses, like a scientist might go to an animal's natural habitat to study it. ;)

I am looking forward to further interaction between characters.

By the way, Lhuna has promised to look in on Scarburg, so I won't take Saeryn out just yet. P'raps another character can go spot the elf. If it's sunrise, the men'll be rising soon....well...they should be up by now. Sunrise in winter is laaaaaate. :(

-- Foley

Galadriel55

12-05-2011, 10:21 PM

Just letting you know that I haven't forgotten about Ledwyn, and I have half a post written for her. I was about to write how she sees Laerdil, but I thought it would be rather illogical for her to arrive so early. Considering that she set out early in the morning, but not the middle of the night, and walked at least a mile by foot (and got a lift the rest of the way), I'd say she'd be there sometime after breakfast.

littlemanpoet

12-06-2011, 04:12 AM

littlemanpoet

12-10-2011, 07:24 AM

Foley, how tall do you have Thornden in your mind? ;)

Folwren

12-10-2011, 10:49 AM

Over six feet.

Galadriel55

12-12-2011, 07:25 PM

The big brother is always biggest, except for Dad. :D

Folwren

12-17-2011, 02:57 PM

Yay, Elempi! You posted!

Uh...I think Javan was the one who showed the elf into the great Hall, so in your second paragraph I think it should be that he thanked Javan, not Lady Saeryn. Is that right?

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

12-17-2011, 09:38 PM

Fixed. Hmm.... I wonder what Rowenna thinks of him?

And I haven't heard from Noggie - I think I'm going to have to go ahead and create "a scene" with Scyrr, but not until after he wakes up. I'll have it that Athanar is still asleep and Eodwine prefers not to waken him.

Folwren

12-17-2011, 11:59 PM

Sounds good. The morning is moving along at a goodly pace. The men-at-arms should be up shortly, I imagine.

I'm kind of curious about what Rowenna thinks of the elf, too.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

12-18-2011, 03:48 PM

Okay, posted. Eodwine's and Rowenna's reactions to Laerdil. Let me know if you think I'm overdoing it. It's hard to gauge this kind of thing. Tolkien had a skill for these kinds of comparisons, and all I can do is either copy or imagine, or a mixture of both. :p

Firefoot

12-21-2011, 10:59 AM

Finally posted. I left it wide open for who Scyld might have sat down with, so anyone who wants to get a character back in play is welcome to respond.

Folwren

12-21-2011, 11:22 AM

Awesome!! I'm going to post this afternoon! After breakfast. :D

piosenniel

12-22-2011, 11:38 PM

Hello, players!

There is a new would-be player in the RPG forum - Aragorn (See his post HERE (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=17817)). You'll note I've given him links to the basic rules of Downs' RP'ing.

I have directed him here, since this is the only viable RPG thread at present.

He will need some guidance and mentoring once he introduces himself in this thread. Can someone(s) please step up and give assist.

I'll let Fea and Formy know they could also step in and give him help, too.

Thanks!

~*~ Pio

Folwren

12-23-2011, 09:57 AM

I could give some assistance to the new player. My availability may be spotty come January, so if someone else could join, too, that'd be ideal.

-- Folwren

Folwren

12-30-2011, 09:45 AM

I can't believe nothing has happened on this for so long!

Anyway, Lhuna and I have been writing behind your guys' backs and have created a co-post. However, it goes back at the beginning of the Day for the game, so I'm going to post it here so nobody misses it, and edit it into an earlier post of mine.

I edited this into my post number 1246 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=664158&postcount=1246).

Ginna and Saeryn

Ginna had already filled a basin with water, and together they rinsed the meat first in a bucket and then laid them to soak in the basin.

As they bent over it together, Saeryn said, “I saw you and Harreld dancing last night. I noticed you two seemed. . ." how could she put it? They had been more companiable, happier, even joyful. "As though you were celebrating something."

"Yes, Saeryn. We were finally able to talk last night. It went well."

Ginna tried, she really tried, but she failed to suppress the wide smile that threatened to form in her lips. She knew she was holding much back, and felt a slight pang of guilt for doing so (especially to Saeryn, who had always been there for her!), but Ginna was in such a good mood that she couldn't help being a little mischievous. And, she thought, it would make for better storytelling to give details a little at a time, as they were demanded.

Saeryn waited expectently a moment, and then seeing that Ginna was not going to open up without prodding, said, "So. . .what did you decide?"

"I did not decide on anything," Ginna said as she carefully dropped a strip of meat in the basin. "Well, nothing new, anyway. You know what I wanted to happen all this time. Harreld, on the other hand..." And she stopped there, letting a grin fill out the missing words.

Saeryn stared at her, her eyes wide. "You mean, he changed his mind? He is going to pursue you, despite what your father said?"

"Yes!" Ginna exclaimed, breathless with joy. "Harreld did not tell me what Eodwine had said in its entirety to help sway him, but it seems I owe much of this to your husband. I do not know what I would do without you two. Thank you, Saeryn."

Saeryn almost put her arms about Ginna in an impulsive hug, but she stopped herself from using her cold, wet hands, and instead just flashed a huge smile that said more than words could about how she felt.

"Eodwine's return will set to right many things, I hope," she said. "I am so happy for you, Ginna! Will you write your father? When. . .did you talk about when you might marry?"

The smile did not leave Ginna's face, but she felt that her happiness was tempered by a sense of sobriety. "We have not gone that far. I guess we are taking things a step at a time. But you are right, I do have to tell my father about this."

Saeryn gave her an encouraging smile. "I think your father will understand, especially if Eodwine sends a letter to tell your father that Harreld is a noble young man and that he approves of your choice."

"He does not have to do that," Ginna replied. "Eodwine has already done so much for us. I shall inform my father myself. Whether or not he understands, Harreld and I have already decided and it will not change."

Saeryn looked admiringly at her, but also with a little sadness. It would not be easy on Ginna if her father did not change his mind. His disapproval could cause the marriage to go forward with difficulty, or perhaps not at all.

They finished putting the meat they needed to soak and as they washed their hands together, Saeryn said, "I will still have Eodwine write. I think it will be best."

Galadriel55

12-30-2011, 10:13 AM

Great post!

I can't believe nothing has happened on this for so long!

I'm waiting for breakfast to be over and everyone to start their work so that I can interrupt everything. :D

(Real reason is that I think it would make sense with the timing, if Ledwyn walked a few miles that day...)

Folwren

12-30-2011, 11:27 AM

Sounds like a reasonable plan, Galadriel. Maybe I can rouse up a bit of action so you can finally get started.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

01-14-2012, 11:26 AM

Hulloooooo?

Galadriel55

01-14-2012, 11:47 AM

'Ello.

I guess I'll just post today, and not wait till breakfast is over, if there are no objections.

Firefoot

01-14-2012, 05:18 PM

I keep meaning to post... I'll get to it soon. Tonight. Come after me with a big stick if I don't.

Galadriel55

01-14-2012, 08:46 PM

Posted! :D

I didn't specify who the man was. Could be a character or just a random unimportant nameless man.

littlemanpoet

01-15-2012, 06:16 AM

Sorry, G55. I feel like we let you down. I got indescribably busy for a while there. Glad you took the initiative.

If you want, G55, I can have Harreld my blacksmith be the one who has just finished breakfast, but he doesn't hurry. Or, more interestingly, she could find herself surprised to have run into an unhurrying hobbit.... these would require minor changes in the end of your post. Or - - Foley could handle it and it could be Thornden.

Let us know what you want to do.

Galadriel55

01-15-2012, 08:28 AM

Let us know what you want to do.

Actually, I am much less initiative than you think. I was hoping that one of you would decide on that. :D:o

But I could edit my post for either of your characters or Thornden. I didn't have anyone specific in mind when I wrote the post. Which encounter would you prefer to write, one with Harreld or with Falco? (Foley, do you want it to be Thornden?)

Folwren

01-15-2012, 10:27 AM

I have not read your post yet, but Thornden HAS gotten up from breakfast, so he would be available.

And I am sorry I didn't let you all know before I left, but I just got back from a week and a half vacation. I should be active now.

-- Foley

EDIT: K, I read it. If it's Thornden, I'd ask you to alter the post a little... He wouldn't be hurrying any place, and he won't look confused when she asks for Athanar - possible hesitant would be a better word.

Galadriel55

01-15-2012, 10:50 AM

EDIT: K, I read it. If it's Thornden, I'd ask you to alter the post a little... He wouldn't be hurrying any place, and he won't look confused when she asks for Athanar - possible hesitant would be a better word.

Done!

Folwren

01-15-2012, 10:56 AM

Great, then I guess I'd better post, huh? ;)

Folwren

01-15-2012, 11:29 AM

Wow, that took me forever to write that post.

Okay, Elempi and G55, there's opportunity for both of you to write something, I've no doubt.

Folwren

01-16-2012, 04:59 PM

Galadriel, I do intend to have Saeryn sit down in just a moment with your character. She just got distracted for a minute, is all. Sorry.

And, if there are any mis-spelled words, it is because I have no program on this new laptop that has a spell-checker, and some words, I just can't spell, so...I hope you'll forgive them until I buy a word processing program that I like.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

01-26-2012, 04:09 AM

Thought provoking pair of posts, Firefoot. I'm mulling what to have my characters say and do. Hope to post soon.

Folwren

01-26-2012, 08:42 AM

Hi, I aim to post today, too. Sickness, school, and work opportunities have been keeping me busy. Sorry about the delay.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

01-30-2012, 05:15 PM

Kath, Lhuna, are you around?

I don't want to start a conversation with characters whose writers are unable to write.

I could just skip the talk, or put it off until later, and find something to do for Ledwyn in the kitchen. Or, alternatively, get Theolain to do something.

What do you think?

Folwren

01-30-2012, 05:39 PM

I'd definitely say get Theolain to do something. :D There are other kids around somewhere, maybe he'll run into them. Except...Lommy's not around writing, and I'm really the only one who'd write for the kids.

Galadriel55

01-30-2012, 06:47 PM

There are other kids around somewhere, maybe he'll run into them.

Or he'll run into other things first. :D I'm not gonna spoil it, in case you read this before I write my post for the game thread. ^.^

But that's certainly a possibility. I'm going to leave my post open for anyone to begin interaction.

Folwren

01-30-2012, 09:35 PM

Or he'll run into other things first. :D I'm not gonna spoil it, in case you read this before I write my post for the game thread. ^.^

But that's certainly a possibility. I'm going to leave my post open for anyone to begin interaction.

Haha! Good post. I will leave my characters out, unless no one else interrupts. I'd like to see you and your characters interact with other players and their people.

-- Foley

Galadriel55

01-30-2012, 10:01 PM

Haha! Good post.

Thanks! :) I was certainly naughty enough with it... :Merisu:

I will leave my characters out, unless no one else interrupts. I'd like to see you and your characters interact with other players and their people.

Good idea.

Folwren

02-01-2012, 11:44 PM

Any takers to address the angry, burned little boy?

Firefoot

02-02-2012, 11:00 AM

I'm going to try and post tonight.

Firefoot

02-04-2012, 04:01 PM

If anyone else wants to get involved by having their character be the mysterious pail-bearer, feel free... it just seemed weird to leave the post off with Leof and Theolain sitting there having a conversation. I mean, that's what I always do after a painful injury. :rolleyes:

Galadriel55

02-04-2012, 04:13 PM

I'll wait a bit before writing a post to give an opportunity to other characters to react, or get involved, as Firefoot said. :)

Folwren

02-04-2012, 08:51 PM

Haha, yes, Firefoot, but people do stop and chat with little two year olds after they get hurt...

Firefoot

02-16-2012, 04:19 PM

I promise I haven't forgotten this. It's been a pretty lousy week... but it's looking up, so look for a post in the next day or so. :)

littlemanpoet

02-25-2012, 02:28 AM

It just occurred to me that Laerdil would offer his aid for the healing of the burned hand. He has something stowed away for healing properties. Some leaf or other.

If the mother and boy are still near the hearth, I could start a conversation to that effect, but I won't be able to until Monday.

Galadriel55

02-25-2012, 08:43 AM

Yeah, they are still near the fireplace, with the bucket. (Incidentally, do you know for how long you hold the burn in water? I never had any serious burns, so I've got no clue about the procedure I'm writing about)

Folwren

02-25-2012, 03:52 PM

The kid probably won't be seriously burned, to begin with. He might have a blister or two, but it won't be anything terrible, terrible.

As for how long to hold the hand under water - as long as the little chap will be content just sitting there, I guess. Water feels good and it doesn't harm anything. :)

I'm sorry I haven't posted recently. Student teaching has been somewhat...not so great.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

02-28-2012, 06:16 AM

Elempi, Leof isn't there anymore. He's at the kitchen. It's just Ledwyn there. And Theolain, of course. :)

littlemanpoet

02-28-2012, 10:53 AM

Elempi, Leof isn't there anymore. He's at the kitchen. It's just Ledwyn there. And Theolain, of course. :)

fixed.

Galadriel55

02-28-2012, 09:27 PM

An appetizer for the most *cough*un*cough*pleasant conversation... juicy sweet! :D

Galadriel55

02-29-2012, 09:07 PM

I promise I'll post a reply soon, Friday the latest.

littlemanpoet

03-09-2012, 07:19 PM

How do you folks feel about Theolain's hand being healed when he pulls it out of the water?

Galadriel55

03-09-2012, 07:27 PM

How do you folks feel about Theolain's hand being healed when he pulls it out of the water?

MAGIC?!?!

:p

Well, it's your call, I guess. If Elrond could heal Frodo, I can't see why a common Elf couldn't heal a simple burn.

Folwren

03-23-2012, 06:15 PM

Woah...I haven't visited here for more than two weeks and no one has done anything? That's sad, folks.

What needs to happen next?

littlemanpoet

03-24-2012, 06:59 PM

Sorry, inordinately busy lately, and I expect it to stay that way for at least another week. I'll see what I can do.

Seems I could write that post with the "magic" in it...

Galadriel55

03-24-2012, 07:58 PM

I also have been quite busy the past couple weeks. A bit less now, but still lots of things to do.

Also, I'd like to warn you that I am going to be away the second week of April. There's still lots of time to write before then, but if there's anything important to be finished that involves Ledwyn/Theolain I think it's be best if it's done in advance.

Galadriel55

04-01-2012, 09:28 PM

In the next few days I'm thinking of rounding up the burnt hand issue. I'm going away for a week, in a week. I thought I shouldn't leave my characters in the thick of things. I could use a few suggestions of how to tuck them away, though. Especially the tyke; Ledwyn could just continue working in the kitchen.

Galadriel55

04-06-2012, 08:44 AM

I still can't think of a way to resolve the burnt-hand-thing-issue without getting other's characters in. I have 2 more days before I leave, though.

If you want to use Ledwyn while I'm away, she'd just be the shy, easily convinced person. Theolain would be whatever you want him to be. Feel free to use them. :)

Elempi? A new PT? 'Grats! :D Gonna take some time getting used to. :)

littlemanpoet

04-08-2012, 08:54 AM

Elempi? A new PT? 'Grats! :D Gonna take some time getting used to. :)

Huh? PT? What's that about? What have you heard, and where?

littlemanpoet

04-09-2012, 04:52 PM

I have introduced the lord and lady of Scarburg to the hall. Since our fearless leader is fraught with too much RL, might we take it upon our selves to put carefully considered words in his mouth and continue the storyline?

Folwren

05-12-2012, 10:20 PM

Sorry for my very long absence. I think I am back...

Elempi, sounds good. I need to write Nogrod and tell him what's going on here. I promised him something like two months ago that I would.

-- Folwren

P.S. Yeah - how did you get a new PT?

littlemanpoet

05-18-2012, 10:58 AM

Yeah - how did you get a new PT?I humbly asked for it.

Have you contacted Nogrod?

Folwren

05-18-2012, 12:01 PM

I did, but he hasn't responded, so I'm not sure if he's been around anywhere on the internet.

Galadriel55

05-18-2012, 08:32 PM

I did, but he hasn't responded, so I'm not sure if he's been around anywhere on the internet.

He's in the Phantasy Football game (though he wasn't very active lately), so I'll slip him a note the next time he'll appear there.

Nogrod

05-20-2012, 11:30 AM

Hi there!

I got Foley's "PM" on FB about what is going on in the SMH a few days ago and appreaciated it very much. Being absent a long time makes one quite at loss as to what is going on if one is simultaneously very busy... :(

But I should now have an idea what is going on.

Yes, my last month or two have been ridiculous... now I've just come back home from my choir's weekend rehersals (we were two days outside town in a camp-center to concentrate on singing only as we have a big concert the next weekend), and need to see tomorrow's school-bussiness before going to sleep. But I will be trying to see through the thread today and do something soon enough - if not today, then tomorrow.

Yeah, I'm very sorry about my absence - and my days will be quite mad the coming two weeks until the summer vacation begins. But I should at least have time to comment on the few issues in a short while. Hopefully more then when the day-to-day pressure lifts off.

And thank's Galadriel for poking. That was a good idea. :cool: (if you have a little time you can post something into a thread you know where things are standing)

So with you in a moment.

Nogrod

05-20-2012, 11:49 AM

Just two quick ones...

1) Athanar will probably bid the elf welcome and even ask him to join his table to share a discussion... so elempi, do you have any ideas how we should proceed with it? I could write a shortish intro to it today or tomorrow, but should we then try to collaborate a post or would you like to write that post as you'd probably know better what Athanar might ask or react than I can say about this new character? (Eodwine should probably sit at the same table as well - as all the nobility around; so we have many possibilities as to who says and what)

2) Does anyone remember, whether it was Scyrr who was wounded by Groin's characters' escape back then? I mean if he was, that would add an interesting twist into that sub-plot.

Galadriel55

05-20-2012, 12:19 PM

2) Does anyone remember, whether it was Scyrr who was wounded by Groin's characters' escape back then? I mean if he was, that would add an interesting twist into that sub-plot.

Scyrr was injured by Erbrand, methinks.

Nogrod

05-20-2012, 01:50 PM

Scyrr was injured by Erbrand, methinks.That's what I thought... So if people loyal to Eodwine jumped on him that gravely, then he'd have his grudge and reason not to look at Eodwine too highly...

And Athanar knows Scyrr is not the nicest man of his guard but he feels the wrong Scyrr was done (I think it was actually quite a severe wound he got) and remembers that Scyrr is one of his veteran soldiers to be sure. But it will be hard to defend his action either - and Athanar doesn't exactly love him as a person... but then again he can't afford to be seen as abandoning his man in this kind of a situation.

So quite a nice nut to crack. :rolleyes:

Galadriel55

05-20-2012, 03:25 PM

That's what I thought... So if people loyal to Eodwine jumped on him that gravely, then he'd have his grudge and reason not to look at Eodwine too highly...

And Athanar knows Scyrr is not the nicest man of his guard but he feels the wrong Scyrr was done (I think it was actually quite a severe wound he got) and remembers that Scyrr is one of his veteran soldiers to be sure. But it will be hard to defend his action either - and Athanar doesn't exactly love him as a person... but then again he can't afford to be seen as abandoning his man in this kind of a situation.

So quite a nice nut to crack. :rolleyes:

And Scyrr also had his conflict the night before with Saeryn and Eodwine. So this will be quite an interesting issue indeed.

littlemanpoet

05-26-2012, 04:15 PM

Athanar will probably bid the elf welcome and even ask him to join his table to share a discussion... so elempi, do you have any ideas how we should proceed with it? I could write a shortish intro to it today or tomorrow, but should we then try to collaborate a post or would you like to write that post as you'd probably know better what Athanar might ask or react than I can say about this new character? (Eodwine should probably sit at the same table as well - as all the nobility around; so we have many possibilities as to who says and what)

Please forgive my unreasonable delay. Since I have absconded with the time you had available to commit, Nogrod, I will take it upon myself to generate something at least passable this weekend.

Nogrod

05-26-2012, 04:52 PM

Please forgive my unreasonable delay. Haha... I don't think you are the person who should say that. :rolleyes:

I'll try to bring something on tomorrow, although I'm not too sure if there are any plans you others might have. If yes, then let me know about them, like for instance how pressing this Scyrr-bussiness is? Or is the elf having something to break in storywise or is he just a character we'll see how he will then affect the overall situation if anything? (I mean that last post by lmp kind of ended in a situation where there are no open ends to pick up as such)

And feel free to post today and get things forwards: my "tomorrow" means evening aka something like 20 hours from now...

PS. I'm going to bee quite busy yet one week or so, but then I'm having a vacation and more time in my hands.

Galadriel55

05-26-2012, 05:08 PM

Tree with legs!!!... *sniggers* :D

The comparison made me laugh. Good one, LMP!

I'm still thinking about how I could busy Ledwyn and the little troublemaker for the moment. Make use of them if you want.

Oh! I just had an idea! Maybe she will notice some "magic" healing going on with Theolain's burn, but more... casually?... She could then "talk it over" with Laerdil later on, when he's not preoccupied with the high and mighty... ;) How does that sound?

Nogrod

05-27-2012, 02:23 PM

Okay. I had time to eye through the thread (not to read it with thought - it's still one week I'll be crazily busy) and realised that the fact that Athanar did not in any way come forwards with all the things going on in the evening in the hall was just impossible, looking at it from the POV of Athanar. Had he been thare he would have really made his mark over what happened and stood out. After all it is his hall and that kind of things wouldn't have gone unnoticed by him - or he wouldn't have just stood back not taking a stance on something like that.

So I had to come up with a reason why he actually was not there when things got more openly heated... and it is funny how these thing go, like how explanations present themselves... so my explanation is: he has migraine and had an attack just then and there and had to go back to his quarters. An interesting feature for a character to carry along after this (and a real nuisance for any real person, I know a few who have it and I have myself had occasional bursts of pain that are not too unlike it even if I have never been diagnosed).

But anyway, let's then see what happens.

littlemanpoet

05-27-2012, 04:36 PM

Tree with legs!!!... *sniggers* :D

The comparison made me laugh. Good one, LMP!Glad you liked it, G55. :)
Oh! I just had an idea! Maybe she will notice some "magic" healing going on with Theolain's burn, but more... casually?... She could then "talk it over" with Laerdil later on, when he's not preoccupied with the high and mighty... ;) How does that sound?

Sounds good!

Nogrod, I like your idea about migraines for Athanar, poor bugger. But it could come in handy now and then - but sparingly.

littlemanpoet

05-31-2012, 10:46 AM

Hi everyone, I want to do a post featuring Eodwine becoming suddenly aware of Laerdil reading his mind, and see where that goes. But I want to wait until someone else posts first. Any takers?

Folwren

06-03-2012, 10:24 PM

O-oh! Tempted to have Saeryn somehow involved in this. Don't know how or why...

I don't think I'll have time to post - I'm not at home at present - but I am enjoying reading posts as they come up. :)

I am so glad you're back and active, Nogrod.

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

06-04-2012, 03:22 PM

Please excuse me from the story construction for a couple days - father is in hospice and I am far from home, my time is not my own. I will post a for Eodwine in a couple days.

Nogrod

06-04-2012, 03:52 PM

I'm in no position to judge anyone being off a day or two. And you seem to have more than a good reason for being absent. There is time for fictional characters to the end of the world but not to the real ones.

All my well-wishes to you and your dad. Against the call of Dylan Thomas I do hope he goes gently into that good night.

Galadriel55

06-04-2012, 07:09 PM

What Nogrod said. There is no hurry to post, and this should be the last thing on your mind at a time like this. And you know that you have our well-wishes and support, as small as it is, all the time.

littlemanpoet

06-05-2012, 06:53 AM

Thanks so much for the good thoughts and words, friends. :)

Galadriel55

06-16-2012, 08:51 PM

I've been meaning to ask if any of the writers for other women who would be in the kitchen are around and feel like writing. I thought it would be nice if someone actually pressed Ledwyn into telling her story.

And since the last post was about Harreld, I had a random idea that Theolain could follow Harreld around - without the need for his knowledge or consent, at least at first. I don't know what exactly happens next, but I have all the worst intentions for him. :D Are you ok with that, Elempi? If you have other plans for Harreld, I could stalk another character, or just "go exploring".

littlemanpoet

06-17-2012, 07:00 PM

Stalk as it please you, G55. :)

I was wondering if there might be anyone who takes exception to my license with a Human being able to do a limited form of osanwe, but nobody has said anything yet.

At any rate, my thought is that Harreld being especially introspective, is able to communicate inside his own mind if an Elf shows up there, but that's his limit. Sound okay?

Galadriel55

06-17-2012, 08:10 PM

Actually, I'm really excited to hear more of this osanwe. When I read your post I thought that it would be a totally awesome loop to add to the story - which it already is. I was coming up with possible reasons for why it is there - ranging from "Harreld is just an introspective person" (which is what lmp says) to "he is an indirect (and unknowing) descendant of an Elf, probably Mithrellas, but perhaps of Luthien-through Numenor, so he has more potential than other Humans"... And all kind of crazy combinations in between... :D

So, in other words, I really like the osanwe discovery. And your post, btw. :)

I'll write up a post for Theolain today.

piosenniel

06-17-2012, 11:22 PM

I was wondering if there might be anyone who takes exception to my license with a Human being able to do a limited form of osanwe, but nobody has said anything yet.

There has already been an RPG that Mithadan and I and Child of the 7th Age wrote in where a Human was able to do some osanwe. I have no doubt you'll handle your osanwe venture well.

~*~ Pio
:)

littlemanpoet

06-18-2012, 11:06 AM

There has already been an RPG that Mithadan and I and Child of the 7th Age wrote in where a Human was able to do some osanwe. I have no doubt you'll handle your osanwe venture well.

~*~ Pio
:)Well, good! :) And thanks! Nice to know it's not an original notion with me. :p

littlemanpoet

06-18-2012, 05:43 PM

G55: Is that literally head over heels? If so, he takes a spill....?

Galadriel55

06-18-2012, 06:02 PM

G55: Is that literally head over heels? If so, he takes a spill....?

Yes, "head over heels" in all of its meanings. :) (I didn't really mention it specifically, but I think he would fall more than once in his haste)

littlemanpoet

06-18-2012, 06:37 PM

Hee hee! That'll garner some attention.

Folwren

06-19-2012, 05:33 PM

Okay, having been home a week now, I finally feel like getting back into the writing business. I'll write a post tonight after catching up on all the reading.

Folwren

06-19-2012, 07:19 PM

Galadriel55

06-19-2012, 07:48 PM

Heh, the truth to that is that I forgot that there is a "Middle Emnet" when I was writing the bio, since I used a Third Age map for reference... :rolleyes::p Gonna drum something up.

Would Saeryn be curious enough to ask what happened to Theolain? :Merisu:

LMP, I'll post for Theolain too soon. I think it won't be today, but hopefully tomorrow.

Folwren

06-19-2012, 07:59 PM

Yes, she will, once she notices he is missing. I wanted to give us a chance to chat before the mother was off worrying about her son. :p

I edited my post, because Elempi kindly pointed out that my character was sitting at the table with Athanar and Eodwine. The end is in essence the same, so you can carry on as before.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

06-19-2012, 09:06 PM

Well, couldn't refuse an excuse to stay up later, so I wrote and posted for both my characters. :)

littlemanpoet

06-21-2012, 07:06 PM

Robin? Hmmmm..... where I come from (Michigan) you don't see robins until March, but Rohan is kinda more like France or Missouri for latitude, I suppose. Yeah, I can go with that. ;)

Galadriel55

06-21-2012, 07:21 PM

Robin? Hmmmm..... where I come from (Michigan) you don't see robins until March, but Rohan is kinda more like France or Missouri for latitude, I suppose. Yeah, I can go with that. ;)

I'm no expert. What kind of bird would be around in cold just-before-it-snows weather? I could change it to a finch or a sparrow or whatever you think best.

Edit: yeah, I checked and it seems I've mixed up all me birds. I think I was thinking of a finch or some such. So I'll change that.

littlemanpoet

06-21-2012, 07:58 PM

Gold finches or sparrows would work. So would chickadees. Of course, this is Europe 6,000 years ago, so who knows?

Galadriel55

06-21-2012, 08:04 PM

All done. :)

littlemanpoet

06-22-2012, 04:09 PM

G55, would you please change your post a wee bit? I was planning on precisely the kind of thing as you describe ..... up until he sets him down. There was something I wanted to have happen before he sets him down. If you could just cut away that ending, I'd appreciate it.

Galadriel55

06-22-2012, 04:57 PM

Sure thing, Elempi. :) I'm curious about what that something is...

littlemanpoet

06-23-2012, 01:54 PM

Thanks! :D Hope you like it.

Folwren

06-24-2012, 12:05 AM

Great post, Nogrod.

Elempi, your post cracked me up, too, with the brothers. Haha. And, yeah, catching the little tyke will be slightly harder this time, I am thinking....

I hope to post tomorrow, but no promises. It's looking like another busy day.

By the way, in my post when Saeryn is sitting with the lords and ladies at the table, there is a line there I meant to have her THINK something and not say it aloud, but it may have been taken that she actually said it out loud. She didn't...and I edited it to reflect that. Just...wanted to shoot that out there. (I just now re-read my post, which is why I brought this up.)...(I need to go to bed and stop babbling.)

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

06-24-2012, 07:58 AM

Aww, poor Harreld!

I'm afraid Foley's right, though; Theolain will be harder to catch, but then I have something in mind for him... ;)

Nog, Athanar's stance on Saeryn reminds me very much of someone I know... well, some two people that I know - one for Athanar and one for Saeryn...

Folwren

06-24-2012, 04:52 PM

By the way, I'm really excited about when Athanar tries to tell Saeryn not to do the housework anymore. Hahahaha!

Nogrod

06-24-2012, 05:11 PM

By the way, I'm really excited about when Athanar tries to tell Saeryn not to do the housework anymore. Hahahaha!Well, he will... and he will also try to persuade Eodwine to come to his side on the issue. :)

If nothing else works, then he will be making a point about her pregnancy fitting ill with working.

Folwren

06-24-2012, 05:42 PM

Love it. We need to get a move on. I'm looking forward to Thornden coming into play soon.

Galadriel55

06-24-2012, 07:40 PM

By the way, I'm really excited about when Athanar tries to tell Saeryn not to do the housework anymore. Hahahaha!

:D:D

Elempi, tell me if you planned for Harreld to approach differently. (For future posts, basically Theolain will keep at that exact distance for a while - even if he follows Harreld around, I think, unless you have something else in mind).

Galadriel55

06-27-2012, 12:08 PM

I want to say two things. Firstly, I have reached the end of my quest of reading the SMH game thread from its very beginning until the most recent post. Secondly, YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!!

Folwren

06-27-2012, 02:01 PM

Wow. That's quite a feat. Yeah, we really wrote a lot, and there were several (many) interesting things that occured. I commend you on reading all of it.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55

06-27-2012, 02:16 PM

Why thank you, Foley! :) It really was time well spent, at least if you ask me (and don't ask my mother), and much enjoyed! You lot are amazing writers. :D

littlemanpoet

06-28-2012, 10:46 AM

Sorry, email notifications seem to be spotty again and I haven't checked for a couple days. I'll write when I get a chance.

By the way, thanks G55 for your compliment. It's been a fun thread to write for.

And the "dance" between Harreld and Theolain is quite fine. :D

Galadriel55

06-30-2012, 09:57 AM

Urgh - I'll be out of town for a few days, so I won't be able to post. I thought I'd have some time today to write, but it turns out I don't. Sorry. :(

Nogrod

06-30-2012, 07:35 PM

Okay.

I'm building up a sit around at the lord's table before the next meal hoping as many contributors to this thread would be able to participate as possible.

It may take place (RL) this week, next week, two weeks from now, a month from now... however busy the other storylines are. There's no hurry.

I can send PM's to Legate, Durelin and Mnemosyne to call them to read what is going on. Legate probably reads it quite soon, about Durelin or Mnemosyne I wouldn't be that optimist.

Then who'd wish to take Scyrr? I think it would be good for someone who is a long time writer of the Mead Hall, like lmp or Folwren (or anyone who has written things about Scyrr) to take him and to feel him. Basically he has been a loyal soldier of Athanar - and a good and trusted one - and then one of these people affiliating himself to the "original Mead Hall" had tried to kill him - and ran away. Scyrr understandably was not happy with it, not to mention he is a bit rash and proud in the first place.

But would it be time to partly overcome "the parties" here in general? So someone of the "old Mead Hall" -writers could be writing for the newcomer-characters as well (not those who have "just arrived", but those who belong to Athanar's retinue) and the newer writers could take an older characters long away or not mentioned?

The latter case of course is a more subtle one as there are some issues with characters written years ago by someone, like Degas whose place it would be in the table as there is this discussion about Scyrr, but if Fëa is not attending, then why write him there anyway as that is a major character?

But we could invent some of these older character, or rather pick on those who are just named like years ago but not actually played by anyone. We do have a host of characters inactive right now if we just look at all the characters that are named or written about.

What do you think?

Folwren

06-30-2012, 09:33 PM

Great, Nogrod. Glad to see this moving forward.

There's a lot to think about, though, and right now I'm falling asleep, so can't really focus. I will be able to think better tomorrow, but I won't be on until later in the afternoon. So you'll probably hear from me then. :)

--Folwren

Folwren

07-01-2012, 02:39 PM

Athanar requested a member of the household who could represent the older set of Scarburgians, so he doesn't have to be even a soldier. What if Stigend or Garstan came? They have been around since before they came to Scarburg and have had families there and everything. Stigend is your character, Nogrod, and Garstan has been bequeathed to all of us, and I feel Nogrod, Elempi, or I would be quite comfortable writing for him.

As for who to play Scyrr - Legate and I have both handled him most recently. Eorl of Rohan took Scyrr's character up for a while and I wish she were around - I was really excited about her getting into the game, but I don't think she is around. During the trial, I almost think it would be most fun if Legate took him, as I will be playing Saeryn who is rather upset with the situation, so having someone to play off of would be good. But I'd like to know your thoughts on that, Legate, because if you don't want to play him, I can do it.

So, the whole group will be Athanar, Wynflaed, Eodwine, Saeryn, Thornden, Coen, Hilderinc, one other (Stigend or Garstan are my suggestions), and Scyrr. Does Athanar want all these folks just to get a clear understanding of what occurred?

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet

07-02-2012, 10:57 AM

I'm game for whatever.

Once this storyline is wrapped up, I'd like to see us have a new storyline that is plot based instead of character based. Some event with implications for Scarburg.

Thoughts?

Nogrod

07-02-2012, 01:49 PM

Haha. In my last post I had written lord Athanar in two places where there should have read lord Eodwine... :o I've corrected that in the thread now.

So, the whole group will be Athanar, Wynflaed, Eodwine, Saeryn, Thornden, Coen, Hilderinc, one other (Stigend or Garstan are my suggestions), and Scyrr.With Laerdil the elf (and Degas should be there but I think it more complicated to get him there than just to ignore him and bring him in the hall when Fea actually shows interest). Also, Stigend or Garstan would be fine - I can write Stigend there if there is a shortage of writers there. Does Athanar want all these folks just to get a clear understanding of what occurred?More or less that, but there are other considerations he has in mind as well. The last time he had a need to give a verdict he decided to go public with it so as to bring about trust to his justice, but as we all remember, it went pretty bad... So he has learned his lesson thus far and will not make it a public hearing this time in case some old wounds might be opened, but he wishes to know the truth - or to come as near to it as possible - and to hear especially Eodwine's opinion on the matter of sanctions (and there are many reasons for the last point).

Once this storyline is wrapped up, I'd like to see us have a new storyline that is plot based instead of character based. Some event with implications for Scarburg.Agreed. It's been a long time we've had plot-driven things going on. The issue with the local landlords was probably the last one. And I do not think that has been emptied either. But if you lmp have something particular in mind, I'm all game for it.

Galadriel55

07-07-2012, 11:35 AM

Once this storyline is wrapped up, I'd like to see us have a new storyline that is plot based instead of character based. Some event with implications for Scarburg.

I was thinking about the possibilities for such an event. I have had two ideas I thought worth throwing out there, but then they're just that - ideas.

1) Skip to Saeryn's labour (incidentally, how long does she still have?). Nicking off from A. Ripley's Scarlett, it could happen at a kind of time when no one is around, and the local doctors can't help, and you have to send for someone else, or do it yourself, or all the messy complications. But if the day is months off still, it might be too early to go to that.

2) King Eomer sends a message to Athanar saying that there are outlaws/bandits/criminals/you-name-it hiding somewhere near Scarburg, and he charges Athanar to do something about that. Alternatively, Athanar could get word about the outlaws from a more local source and take the initiative himself... These options could give plenty of adventure, mystery, and, well, plot.

There is still the day to finish before anything happens, though, so there's still time to think and come up with stuff.

Folwren

07-07-2012, 01:59 PM

I forget how far along Saeryn is...at least 3 months, I think...

Both those ideas are good, but I kind of think the labor thing might be a lot of character plot stuff, too, won't it? It will happen in time, so I don't have any preference if it's what we do next or later.

I'll see if I can think of any plot ideas.

For now, what needs to happen? Can we cut to the meeting with Athanar and all the others?

-- Folwren

Legate of Amon Lanc

07-08-2012, 04:47 AM

Hello everyone, I feel forced to say after being, ahem, a little bit neglecting the happenings here for some time... until now Nog poked me to pay a visit here again.

That said, I certainly consider that a good thing and I would be very happy if that sort of restarted my presence here. Even though, I hasten to add, my performance during summer, at least in the beginning, might be somewhat scattered due to my constant appearances and disappearances between working in the city and staying in wilderness with no electricity and related devices. :smokin: Anyway, I think scanty performance is better than none. Perhaps.

I had been following the thread from time to time, but I have only very vague ideas on what has been happening recently, or, say, since I have last been active. I have very briefly reviewed some stuff that seems to be happening here now, but I must confess I probably still don't grasp all the implications of what is happening and why. "So there apparently came some elf" is what I would tell you if you asked me to recall what's been happening between my last post and the current events.

Therefore, I have been thinking, maybe someone could briefly (really really briefly is enough) bring me up to speed since... eh... well about since the time Eodwine returned? The last thing I recall being a part of was the celebration evening after that. So, from that point on... most of all, if there were any major events (or you can start with the elf).

As for taking Scyrr and other things, I think I will respond on it once I get my thoughts sorted first :)

littlemanpoet

07-08-2012, 05:53 AM

Ugh. I have seen all together too many 'giving birth' scenes on tv. They're all the same. Sorry. :p

I was thinking more along the lines of outlawry, but on a bigger scale. I realize it's early in the 4th age, but I find it quite interesting that Tolkien imagined youths "playing orc" and such....

Galadriel55

07-08-2012, 08:35 AM

Therefore, I have been thinking, maybe someone could briefly (really really briefly is enough) bring me up to speed since... eh... well about since the time Eodwine returned? The last thing I recall being a part of was the celebration evening after that. So, from that point on... most of all, if there were any major events (or you can start with the elf).

I'll try to recall the main events from the last two days.

Eodwine returns and swears an oath to Athanar. Athanar makes him Counsellor.
Ginna and Harreld are engaged.
Rowenna and Scyld decide to exchange their stories.
And the big one, Scyrr insulting Saeryn and Eodwine in front of everyone.

This morning, Eodwine talks to Scyrr, but the man is stubborn and insults him further.
Laerdil the Elf arrives. He plays the harp.
Athanar asks Eodwine and Laerdil about how they think Scyrr should be punished.
Ledwyn and Theolain arrive. Theolain promptly burns his hand, but Laerdil uses a *coughmagiccough* herb to cure it. Theolain is now playing outside with Harreld and Ledwyn is wondering where is he.
Athanar decides to hold a largish council, made up of people from the new and old Scarburg, as well as the Elf.

Did I miss something?

Legate of Amon Lanc

07-08-2012, 08:57 AM

Thanks very much, Gal! I am just in the process of (at least partially) rereading the game thread since the Scyrr incident (now I remember, that was a nice "event"), so if something important is missing, hopefully I will notice.

As for the question that has been raised here - if someone should "take" Scyrr, I wouldn't mind that, but I think Foley could also manage it pretty well; and then of course if there was anybody else really interested in it...

Scyrr was originally mostly "my creature" of sorts, but like I said, my appearances here may be somewhat random during the summer, so if he is supposed to be the central persona of this hearing, maybe it would be better if Foley took him. It depends a lot on the timeframe (RL time) in which you want to write this.

Folwren

07-08-2012, 06:40 PM

Honestly, I'd rather keep him a character that floats, rather than me being put in charge of him. I can see Legate and I taking him as need or opportunity allows, as well as anyone else who'd like to.

Elempi, you crack me up. Too many dramatized labor scenes! haha!

Okay, so outlaws and bandits? Or ... youths playing orcs? What?

Galadriel - did Ginna and Harreld get engaged? I'd forgotten. I wish Lhuna could come back and write.

Nothing of immportance to add, I'm afraid, and too tired to write anything tonight.

Galadriel55

07-08-2012, 09:17 PM

Galadriel - did Ginna and Harreld get engaged?

Well Harreld said yes and Ginna said yes, and then they danced together, and in the morning Ginna told Saeryn that they will get married but they have not talked in detail about it yet, and that she still has to tell her father. Saeryn decided that she'll ask Eodwine to write a letter to Randver.

EDIT: here are the posts of their "engagement":

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=663459&postcount=1216
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=663692&postcount=1221
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=663966&postcount=1237

And the talk with Saeryn:

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=664158&postcount=1246

Folwren

07-09-2012, 12:31 PM

Ah. Thank you very much, Galadriel.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet

07-10-2012, 10:49 AM

Elempi, you crack me up. Too many dramatized labor scenes! haha!They're so predictable. I know there are the ooh and aww people who love the result, which is fine. But spare me the screaming, heaving, rip the husband's lips off drama.

Okay, so outlaws and bandits? Or ... youths playing orcs? What?It was just a thought. I'd like to see something a bit more major. I don't know what would be realistic within the feigned history Tolkien has left us. A Dunlending uprising? Those petty lords in the Middle Emnet rebelling? I'm kind of interested in actual battling and political stuff, I suppose - and I hope we can put the in-fighting at Scarburg behind us once and for all. Not my favorite story line. :p

Galadriel55

07-11-2012, 08:31 PM

They're so predictable. I know there are the ooh and aww people who love the result, which is fine. But spare me the screaming, heaving, rip the husband's lips off drama.

What about if it's something real, for a change?

Though even that might not be necessary to boost up some plot/character stuff by the time it comes.

It was just a thought. I'd like to see something a bit more major. I don't know what would be realistic within the feigned history Tolkien has left us. A Dunlending uprising? Those petty lords in the Middle Emnet rebelling? I'm kind of interested in actual battling and political stuff, I suppose - and I hope we can put the in-fighting at Scarburg behind us once and for all. Not my favorite story line. :p

Well outlaws could either come from Dunland, or from upriver Anduin (though those would have to get through the whole East Emnet first), or -- have some Rohirrim rebell. Possibly one of the petty lords you speak of. Or it can be as vague as a dead/injured man discovered in Scarburg vicinities and an investigation being made. Perhaps a man of relative importance should be the victim, to bring out the political side of the issue...

...I'm not the politics kind of person, so I can't think of political issues that could arise that would involve fighting. :/

littlemanpoet

07-12-2012, 08:11 AM

...I'm not the politics kind of person, so I can't think of political issues that could arise that would involve fighting. :/

Shoot. If only this was set in - like - 50 4th age instead 14 4th age - then we could play with the generational change of a whole generation that has no appreciation for the War of the Ring. It could start with the Red Eye being painted on walls, and blow up into a cultural phenomenon with violence and ugliness. Sort of what Tolkien foresaw... but then, he felt it wasn't worth writing. Hmm..

Folwren

07-12-2012, 08:30 PM

Yes, but we ARE in year 14, so we can't. Would there be any roving orcs still? Dunlendings seem a potential people to use, too - one that the Eorlings are used to distrusting. Hey - Wormtongue was a Rohanian. What if there were others like him that had fallen prey to Saruman and decided to cause some trouble? I don't know how feasible that is, and it would probably take a long time to develop in order for it to be of any use to us.

If it had not been that Javan had been improving, I would put him up for a possible plot twister - make him steal something and run. But he has been improving and I don't want to make him digress.

Nothing else now. Maybe I'll think of something.

Galadriel55

07-13-2012, 06:20 AM

Theolain can run away. :smokin:

littlemanpoet

07-13-2012, 08:10 AM

The land is called The Mark.
The people of the land are called Eorlings. ;)

Gondorians call it Rohan and the people living there the Rohirrim; but never "Rohannians". :p

Theolain running away? He wouldn't get far on those little legs unless he was abducted, but that's already been done.

Orcs don't go where the risk is too great compared to the reward.

Maybe I'm ready for an adventure in which Eodwine or someone leaves Scarburg with the expectation of coming back.

Nogrod

07-13-2012, 01:57 PM

I think both orcs and Dunledings are a bit far fetched - and I think the Mead Hall has had it's due of renegades and outlaws.

But how about the local lords and the peasants / basic farmers?

It seems the local lords have had it their way before the Mead Hall was introduced at Mid-Emnet and round 1 has been taken place just "recently". But things seem quite far from settled in any way. I could check back for those lords during the weekend to look for scenarios...

Also, I would think there should be locals hating the way their lords have conducted their ways and maybe they have had their fill? A kind of local rebellion might be an interesting idea, especially when Athanar and Eodwine need to stand for order while they probably also understand the claims of the rebels to be justified?

One added scenario could be that the local farmers take the Mead Hall as just one extra-load of the "twisted lords"?

I think there is a wealth of opportunities.

littlemanpoet

07-13-2012, 03:33 PM

These seem like good ideas. I think that Eodwine and Athanar may have conflict erupt between them as to how to handle rebellions. This could be interesting.

Nogrod

07-13-2012, 05:56 PM

If the main problem would be whether to, in shorthand, "call for law and order" or to "understand the possible rebels", I think the roles are pretty much given between Athanar and Eodwine, not probably so much because of their personalities (even if there probably is something of that there too), but especially because of their status: Athanar has the official position and is responsible to his king as the lord of the Mead Hall, a representative of the king and the realm, whilst Eodwine can take his stance more freely not being in charge officially or judicially.

But if that is about the scenario we'll start building I'd suggest we make the rebels do something relatively serious as otherwise it might be a real pain to write Athanar demanding law and order in the face of probably quite righteous claims of the rebels (heh, I'd hate to be on the "wrong side" all the time - even if writing for a person who is not like you yourself is always rewarding in other ways...;)).

I'll try to check the local lords for any ideas how they could fit in during the weekend as I said, but just as food for thought to everyone let me recount them as my memory serves me.

There's this "great lord" who was I think Eodwine's and Athanar's superior in the great war: a great soldier and commander who has grown somewhat greedy as a lord amongst "nobodies" and is very mindful of his stature. I wouldn't say he is evil, but maybe thinks himself superior (in many cases that might be true) and takes his new luxury-"retirement" as given.

Then there's this one I'd call the "evil one". An intelligent, mindful lord who's not talking or doing openly even half of what he actually thinks and does. To him I'd be willing to give some really nasty motivations - or at least egoistical ends he'd be ruthlessly pursuing. An obvious central-plotter for us - or the obvious target of the rebellion?

The third is actually third and fourth. There is this old lord who was fighting at the Pelennor Fields and was at least known by A & E (needs to check), and it seems he has stayed true over the years - as was seen in the first confrontation where he saved the day by overriding his son.

But he has given the lordship to his son who is reckless, hot-headed and wants to show-off to the other two lords. The last time we left them the situation was quite delicate between the father and the son, so maybe it should be revisited and we should decide how matters went after Athanar and his soldiers left?

But it seems they all (except perhaps the third one) have misused their status by levying taxes or tax-like payments, making partisan judgements in the absence of a Mead Hall to speak the law, and basically taking advantage of the local people.

Folwren

07-13-2012, 08:22 PM

Hm. An uprising sounds very interesting. That would case a lot of rippling effects in Scarburg that would grow immensely. I see great potential.

What, Elempi, don't like 'Rohanians'?

I KNEW something wasn't right in what I was writing the other night, but I didn't care enough to figure it out. Thank you, kind sir, for correcting me. :P

If it came to a disagreement between Athanar and Eodwine, wouldn't Eodwine give in? I mean, he's there to support Athanar and counsel him, but if Athanar chooses another course, Eodwine's duty would be to stand behind him. They could disagree in private, and all, but surely they'd show a strong front in public. I don't know how much Eodwine is similar to Thornden, but that seems to be what Thornden would do.

Speaking of, I want to write him again. Are we going to move forward with this Scyrr thing? I do want to see that story-line wrapped up.

littlemanpoet

07-14-2012, 01:35 PM

Nogrod

07-14-2012, 03:19 PM

Folwren is right. If there is no justification, no inkling of rectitude to be found in the rebellion at all, then Eodwine will simply support his lord, and that's that. And that would be boring, to me. If, however, there was something justifiable in the rebels' motivations, even in their own minds, then there might/would be contention between A & E. The greater the seeming justification, the greater the confrontation, even to the point of being open before the folk of Scarburg. That would not be boring to me.

But if that is about the scenario we'll start building I'd suggest we make the rebels do something relatively serious as otherwise it might be a real pain to write Athanar demanding law and order in the face of probably quite righteous claims of the rebels
That's exactly what I was talking about - only adding the other dimension of the scene. So there has to be a decent justification on the rebels' part (which should not be hard to come by), but there should also be some drastic action on their behalf so that it is not easy to take "your side".

I'd hope to find a storyline where anyone of us as ourselves, the writers, would honestly find it hard to say what is right or wrong - then we should adopt positions to our characters and see what comes out of it.

That would be challenging and interesting at the same time. If one of the sides is clearly right and the other wrong there is nothing interesting to write for.

I have a few preliminary ideas about the lords but let me think about them & check a few "facts" before coming open with them for you to have your say, hopefully tomorrow...

Nogrod

07-14-2012, 03:23 PM

Are we going to move forward with this Scyrr thing? I do want to see that story-line wrapped up.Good point. :rolleyes:

I have been waiting for the writers of those characters involved to kind of say "hi I'm in for this", but well, it seems we just have to go forwards without many of the character-writers involved.

Let's wrap it up pretty fast, shall we?

I can post a short one making Athanar wist to hear Scyrr on his part first. Then whoever (Legate, Folwren, lmp) can make Scyrr's POV. Then maybe a few POV's of others and Athanar makes the decision... Okay?

Who wishes to take Scyrr?

Legate of Amon Lanc

07-14-2012, 04:04 PM

Good point. :rolleyes:

I have been waiting for the writers of those characters involved to kind of say "hi I'm in for this", but well, it seems we just have to go forwards without many of the character-writers involved.

Let's wrap it up pretty fast, shall we?

I can post a short one making Athanar wist to hear Scyrr on his part first. Then whoever (Legate, Folwren, lmp) can make Scyrr's POV. Then maybe a few POV's of others and Athanar makes the decision... Okay?

Who wishes to take Scyrr?

Just a remark since I happen to be around now... however I won't be around at least in several upcoming days, so I cannot write at that time (though if I randomly happened to be around, I can write for Hilderinc. But probably not Scyrr).

Nogrod

07-14-2012, 04:26 PM

The stage is set for Scyrr...

I'm a bit off as to what happened between him and Saeryn / Eodwine, so I would appreciate if someone else took him. If you are insecure as to what kind of person he is, then let me say this (which is kind of my view on him).

Scyrr is a tough and battle-hardened soldier to the bone - in a long line of descent. And he is proud of his lineage: not of lords but of warriors; soldiers, tough guys, those who devote their lives to their lords.

Aside his devotion and total submission to his lord he's pretty hard one to handle for anyone else. He never fails his lord and any lord could trust their lives in men like him, but there is this downside of him being rough and ready for a brawl whenever a situation presents itself. He also gets drunk more often than would be advisable and gets even more troublesome when under the influence of mead or wine. He might be a loyal friend to those colleagues of his he has learned to appreciate through years but would be highly distrustful of any new acquintances...

PS. Legate: do fill in a few lines for Hilderinc. And please tell me if there is something I should add to my post dealing Hilderinc as well...

PS2. I'd say Scyrr is old enough to have been fighting in the Pelennor fields (alongside his father who would have been there with Athanar's father's retinue), but he would have been a youngster back then and maybe not performing as well he would have done had he had the experience he has these days... so he would be a thirty-something? Like five to ten+ years younger than Athanar and Eodwine, but not a "boy" in any sense of the word.

littlemanpoet

07-15-2012, 12:46 PM

I have an idea for a rebellion.

The three lords abide by the letter of the law and are letting time pass, but take advantage of whatever the letter of the law allows, having "dragon-fever", as it were (monetary greed). But in doing this they are scrupulous in making sure that they cross no line that would rouse a law and order Eorl of Middle Emnet to bring down the law upon them. And while they behave thus, they intrigue very much against the spirit of the law, preparing for overthrow.

Meanwhile, some of their primary men, such as the honorable Stedford in Friduhelm's hall, catch wind of it and do their own intriguing between the three lords, and gather a rebel force and together attempt to overthrow the one they think weakest. They say they do this because they know the hands of the Eorl are tied to protect the office of these lords even though they do and prepare evil. And they also say they do this to bring these plotting lords to justice, and establish a better man to be their lord.

This cuts things a little finer, turning things on its head, as it were.

I realize this might make Athanar's position rather difficult, and it would certainly pull at Eodwine to support the rebels for their justice as opposed to the lords for their rights; leaving him caught between the oath he swore to his lord and to the justice any man is owed.

littlemanpoet

07-15-2012, 12:59 PM

Okay, for the heck of it I took a stab at Scyrr. Tell me to withdraw and I will. Should I make him more aggressive?

Nogrod

07-15-2012, 02:04 PM

Okay, for the heck of it I took a stab at Scyrr. Tell me to withdraw and I will. Should I make him more aggressive?I think it was fine. I mean Scyrr can't be a totally evil person or a baddie rotten all through for then he would not be here and a sergeant of Athanar's guard. That said he clearly has an attitude-problem - and the situation at the Mead Hall doesn't exactly help as he is partly trying to keep the side of those he thinks his own against those who to him seem to try and unjustifiably force the lordship from his lord and dishonour him and his mates (like Folwren put Thornden to reminisce: the "locals" tried to kill him on the second day and some still held those wanna-be murderers their heroes).

I mean let's not make him a caricature even if he isn't one of the nicest persons around... :rolleyes: (Which means, no let''s not make him any more aggressive. What you wrote lmp, I think was fine.)

A few comments about the coming scenarios a bit later.

Folwren

07-15-2012, 02:53 PM

I'm glad you took him, Elempi! :D You made him sufficiently ... unpleasant... as Nogrod said. :)

-- Foley

littlemanpoet

07-15-2012, 03:15 PM

I'm glad you took him, Elempi! You made him sufficiently ... unpleasant... as Nogrod said.

-- FoleyWell, it's nice to know I can do unpleasant. :D :p

Nogrod

07-15-2012, 08:34 PM

I did actually read the whole scene about Athanar and the men of The Mead Hall visiting Faramund - and then shortly Tancred and Alboin as well. It was actually a pretty good read. To anyone willing to refresh their memories, the story starts more or less from page 21 post #815 (or p. 22 #846 the latest) and continues all along to page 25 - although there sure is other stuff there in between concerning things happening at the Mead Hall (like Raban and Javan! We need to get those two back!)

Anyway it reminded me of many things we had written concerning the local landlords and yes, Stedford lmp mentioned already (and it actually gives some quite nice portraits of our characters as well - and their relations; like how Athanar learns to really trust Thornden).

I think we need to deploy Stedford into the storyline somehow.

That said there are a few things I think we shoud all consider thinking about the new plotline.

First of all, lord Athanar has Faramund's ledger and it might reveal a thing or two about what is going on. More of that later.

Secondly, Friduhelm is weak from his illness but as we left him he was standing firm to reclaim his authority. We know not yet how it has turned out there: has Faramund taken his place as a dutiful son or has he rebelled against his father. Also would Friduhelm be ready to testify against the other lords and would they like to shut his mouth for good? And what has Stedford to do with the situation at their place, or could he be the agent to stir things up by fex. coming to the Mead Hall and reporting - whatever we decide has happened to kick us forwards?

Tancred seemed to be the realist I thought he would be and had pledged his good will (in front of some forty to fifty men in arms standing at his porch that's probably wise). But he was said to have been the commander of Eodwine - teaching him he said - and Athanar has also served under him in the Great War. He is a commanding figure, some ten years older than Eodwine and Athanar, a real war hero and a Leader (with a capital L). And I would say he will not be done away with that easily - although I think he might in the last instance be the one that could be turned back to the path of righteousness if the right chords could be played. But that I would say should be our last resort if we write ourselves into a dead-end alley...

Alboin is the sneaky one. He's also a veteran but one Eodwine dislikes a lot and it's easy to see Athanar doesn't actually love him either. There was this interesting thing back there where it was said Eodwine thought him a coward but some praised his courage... That might be a nice detail we might work on? Maybe something in their shared past, in the battle of Pelennor fields? Maybe Eodwine witnessed something Alboin does not wish to remember or to be known?

So what is going on in general - and what the ledger might reveal in part? Well, what seems to be the case is that the three lords (Tancred, Alboin and Faramund) have been exploiting the local farmers by two ways at least. Firstly by forcing them to pay over-rated amounts from any help they would give them in need - methodically taking fex. their livestock, crops, any holdings or estates as payment creating a kind of serfdom at worst (I don't think it had been said openly there but I'd see it as one natural way of "paying one's debt" to work for it). Secondly by speaking the law pretty harshly and keeping the fines themselves or at least only giving the king the basic fare and keeping the rest themselves.

And surely, if they are ruining the livelihoods of the farmers around their area the number of crime will skyrocket as people need to provide their daily bread to their families - and thus they can yield even more to themselves from trials against the people they had forced into poverty and inhuman conditions themselves in the first place.

So no wonder if people rebelled against such a rule.

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Let me then end by mulling about with one idea...

Now Friduhelm declared in public that he would pay back for every farmer that came to complain about his son's rulings. How would Faramund take that humilation? How would Tancred and Alboin take it as that would undermine their authority and decisions as well? And T & A would also realise as intelligent men that the Mead Hall as such was becoming a threat to their ways as it would side with Friduhelm.

So someone would decide to get rid of Friduhelm rather sooner than later? And that would be followed by a popular revolt (led by Stedford?)?

Well possibly, but wouldn't that be a bit reckelss from T & A whom both we have characterised as shrewd and intelligent men?

Looking at it from T & A's perspective a possible pact with the MH could be the most promising route to their own continued prosperity as it seems clear - and Athanar made it clear for them all - that the king himself was especially worried about the Mid Emnet as he hasted to appoint a new eorl without waiting for Eodwine to either recover or die.

Now here we might have some rift between Eodwine and Athanar where the latter might be interested in having a deal that could be called just in some terms and being acceptable to the king and the good of the realm while Eodwine might call for some heavier moral justice. I could see Athanar as that kind of an utilitarianist.

That kind of a route would of course give us less drama... But then again, if Faramund goes and kills his father it is hard to see there being any difference of opinion between Athanar and Eodwine. Though I'm not sure they need to be of a different opinon for us to have a nice plot, but whatever.

But could there be something more shrewd machinated by Tancred and Alboin (maybe Faramund, but he seems too reckless to be able to plot anything - he could be the "joker-factor to be sure)?

Like if they consealedly aided a popular revolt to burst forth (maybe letting the uneducated to think the Mead Hall is a part of their problems) and then claimed it had to be suppressed with a strong hand, offering themselves as the champions of that?

Or if they had it the way our bankers and investment-dealers have it today and wish to get as much as they can as fast as they could as long as the cow can be milked and then wish to fly away? So how would they try to smokescreen the MH not seeing it? And how would that turn out in the minds of Eodwine and Athanar, like one saw what was happening and the other refused to believe it? No, that's a bad idea.

Okay. it's too late now and I'm off to sleep, but let's remember that we should not make Tancred or Alboin fools either. I'd like to see them as real cunning persons with witty plans our "heroes" will have hard times to crack.

And sure Faramund, Friduhelm and Stedford should play a role there.

Let's think about it.

Folwren

07-15-2012, 08:48 PM

What if Faramund murdered his own father and the people revolted after that? Or, we can even elimintate murder and just say the old man died of natural causes, and Faramund, angry at what had occurred, came down harder on his people and that plus the passing of their old lord, pushes them beyond their limits.

What if, then, the word of their rebellion reaches Alboin's folk, who are not as badly pressed as Faramund's people were, but who may be over-taxed (I may be wrong in this, I can't remember if Alboin mis-treatd his folk much at all), and so they began a revolt, too. I think that it could easily spread from estate to estate, no?

Finally, Tancred hears of everything that is going on, and he may realize that he is in danger of his people wanting to demand more freedoms or rights, and so he seems to give into them before they properly revolt, while at the same time, he goes to Athanar either for help or to offer his services to help overcome revolts, perhaps with the idea in mind that if he is of service and does right by his people and by Athanar, he will gain some reward, especially if Faramund or Alboin are killed. Perhaps he will receive some of the land or something. Faramund has no children, does he? His land could potentially be in need of new lordship, if he is killed.

Everything I just wrote is really, really rough, but I don't think I could put it any better because I really know nothing about politics of that time period, or how rebellions would spread, and what would happen, and all that.

But I agree that Alboin and Tancred are probably no fools, and I almost see Tancred coming along side Athanar and Eodwine to help overcome the problems, but probably with the idea of gaining something in mind.