Palantir of Fortune!

[Inziladun]

A N O E I

"- o/ - - a - -/ i -/ - e/! - e a - = - o - - - -/ - - o - e/ - o n - -/ - - a - -/ - e/
a - - o - n - e -/, a n -/ - e -/ - - a - -/ - e/ - e - - = - o - - - -/.
- o -/ - - e/ - - i - e/ - o - - -/ - e / n o/ o - - e -."

The '=' is a dash.

[Isabellkya]

Any s'?

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

How about an L?

[Inziladun]

LA NOISE

"S o/ S - a l l/ i -/ - e/! - e a - = - o - - - -/ - - o s e/ s o n - s/ s - a l l/ - e/
a - - o - n - e -/, a n -/ - e -/ s - a l l/ - e/ - e l l = - o - - - -/.
- o -/ - - e/ - - i - e/ - o - l -/ - e / n o/ o - - e -."

The '=' is a dash.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"m"s, please.

[Isabellkya]

t's please?

[Guinevere]

B please

[Inziladun]

L A N O I S E T B (No M)

"S o/ S - a l l/ i t/ b e/! - e a - = b o - - - t/ t - o s e/ s o n - s/ s - a l l/ b e/
a - - o - n t e -/, a n -/ - e t/ s - a l l/ b e/ - e l l = b o - - - t/.
- o -/ t - e/ - - i - e/ - o - l -/ b e / n o/ o t - e -."

The '=' is a dash.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"v"s?

[Inziladun]

There are no V's.

L A N O I S E T B (No M, no V)

"S o/ S - a l l/ i t/ b e/! - e a - = b o - - - t/ t - o s e/ s o n - s/ s - a l l/ b e/
a - - o - n t e -/, a n -/ - e t/ s - a l l/ b e/ - e l l = b o - - - t/.
- o -/ t - e/ - - i - e/ - o - l -/ b e / n o/ o t - e -."

The '=' is a dash.

[Mnemosyne]

If so, humblest apologies; but I had almost wholly filled in the words and I knew not who said them.

"So shall it be! Dear-bought those songs shall be accounted, and yet shall be well-bought. For the price could be no other."

Manwe in response to the messages brought to him by his heralds from the departing Feanor, "Of the Sun and the Moon," The Silmarillion

If I cheated then I surrender control of the thread.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Well, it's not my clue, but remember
that when Cadet Kirk reprogrammed the Kobayashi
(whatever) he got a commendation for originality
(or was it creativity)? :D

P.S. Not that anyone before's ever googled a quote search for
something like Middle-earth quote ......... . No
really! Never have! Right! Heh?

P.P.S. I am Shocked! Shocked! That anyone would
ever do such a thing!

[Mnemosyne]

Ah, Kirk, the original l33t h4xx0r...

Thanks, Tuor!

[Inziladun]

If so, humblest apologies; but I had almost wholly filled in the words and I knew not who said them.

"So shall it be! Dear-bought those songs shall be accounted, and yet shall be well-bought. For the price could be no other."

Manwe in response to the messages brought to him by his heralds from the departing Feanor, "Of the Sun and the Moon," The Silmarillion

If I cheated then I surrender control of the thread.

Personally, I have no problem with your methods. It was a rather obscure quote.
Favor us with a new one.

[Mnemosyne]

Excellent! I should have a suitable one up later tonight.

[Mnemosyne]

A fairly easy one, methinks.

"--/---/---/----/--/---/-------/----/--/---/----/----/-/------/----/-------/--/:--/----/--/-----/----=----/---/--------/--/---/-----/------/=--/------/-----/------!"

[Isabellkya]

Any a's please?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"L"s?

[Inziladun]

S for me.

[Mnemosyne]

A, L, S

"--/all/---/---s/--/---/-------/--a-/-s/---/----/las-/-/s---l-/-a--/-------/--/:--/-a--/--/-----/-al-=---s/a--/-----a-s/--/---/S----/--s-l-/=--/--s---/L----/----l-!"

[Guinevere]

N please

[Mnemosyne]

A, L, N, S

"--/all/---/-n-s/--/---/----n--/--a-/-s/---/----/las-/-/s---l-/-a--/-------/--/:--/-a--/--/-----/-al-=---s/an-/-----ans/-n/---/S----/--s-l-/=--/--s---/L----/----l-!"

[Guinevere]

How about O?

[Mnemosyne]

A, L, N, O, S

"O-/all/---/-n-s/-o/o--/-o--n--/--a-/-s/---/----/las-/-/s-o-l-/-a--/--o----/o-/:-o/-a--/-o/-----/-al-=o--s/an-/-----ans/-n/---/S----/--s-l-/=-o/--s---/Lo--o/----l-!"

[Inziladun]

Aha! :D

Of all the ends to our journey that is the very last I should have thought of: to have to fight half-orcs and ruffians in the Shire itself--to rescue Lotho Pimple!

Pippin to Frodo incredulously opining on their next goal from The Scouring of the Shire.

[Mnemosyne]

Correct! The thread is yours.

[Inziladun]

This one's fairly short.

"- - -/ - - - - - -/ - - - - -/ - - -/ - - - - - -/; - - -/ - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - - - - -/ - -/ - - -
- - - - -/ - -/ - - -/ - - - - - -/, - - -/ - -/ - - - - -/ - - - - -/. - - - - - - - -/!"

[Guinevere]

O please

[Isabellkya]

a please.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"t"s?

[Inziladun]

OAT

"- a -/ - a - - o -/ - - - - -/ - - -/ - - - t - -/; a - -/ - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - t - - -/ t o/ t - -
- a - - -/ o -/ t - -/ - - - - - -/, - a -/ - -/ - - o - -/ - - - - -/. - a - - - - - -/!"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"c"s?

[Inziladun]

OAT

There are no C's.

"- a -/ - a - - o -/ - - - - -/ - - -/ - - - t - -/; a - -/ - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - t - - -/ t o/ t - -
- a - - -/ o -/ t - -/ - - - - - -/, - a -/ - -/ - - o - -/ - - - - -/. - a - - - - - -/!"

[Mnemosyne]

R, matey!

[Inziladun]

O ART (No C)

"- a -/ - a - - o -/ - - - - -/ - - -/ - - - t - -/; a - -/ - -/ - - - r/ - -/ r - t - r -/ t o/ t - -
- a - - -/ o -/ t - -/ - - - - - -/, - a -/ - -/ - r o - -/ - - - - r/. - a r - - - - -/!"

[Aganzir]

L, please.

[Inziladun]

LOART (No C)

"- a -/ - a - - o -/ - - - - -/ - - -/ - - - t l -/; a - -/ - -/ - - - r/ - -/ r - t - r -/ t o/ t - -
l a - - -/ o -/ t - -/ l - - - - -/, - a -/ - -/ - r o - -/ - - - - r/. - a r - - - l l/!"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"i"s, please.

[Inziladun]

RAIL TO (No C)

"- a -/ - a - - o -/ - - - - -/ - i -/ - - - t l -/; a - -/ i -/ - - - r/ - -/ r - t - r -/ t o/ t - -
l a - - -/ o -/ t - -/ l i - i - -/, - a -/ - -/ - r o - -/ - i - - r/. - a r - - - l l/!"

[Isabellkya]

Any s'?

[Guinevere]

this is driving me insane! The parts I can figure out, sound so familiar, yet I can't place the quote.

Can I have the N's ?

[Inziladun]

RAILTOSN (No C)

"- a -/ - a n - o s/ - - - - -/ - i -/ - - s t l -/; a n -/ i -/ - - - r/ - -/ r - t - r n/ t o/ t - -
l a n - s/ o -/ t - -/ l i - i n -/, - a -/ - -/ - r o - -/ - i s - r/. - a r - - - l l/!"

[Guinevere]

hm... what the heck could words #3 and #5 be?:rolleyes:

perhaps some E's would help?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"u"s?

[Inziladun]

RAILTOSNEU (No C)

"- a -/ - a n - o s/ - u - - e/ - i -/ - u s t l -/; a n -/ i -/ e - e r/ - e/ r e t u r n/ t o/ t - e
l a n - s/ o -/ t - e/ l i - i n -/, - a -/ - e/ - r o - e/ - i s e r/. - a r e - e l l/!"

That should just about do it. ;)

[Isabellkya]

Any m's?

[Inziladun]

RAILTOSNEUM (No C)

"M a -/ M a n - o s/ - u - - e/ - i m/ - u s t l -/; a n -/ i -/ e - e r/ - e/
r e t u r n / t o/ t - e/ l a n - s/ o - / t - e/ l i - i n -/, m a -/ - e
- r o - e/ - i s e r/. - a r e - e l l/!"

[Mnemosyne]

"May Mandos judge him justly; and if ever he return to the lands of the living, may he prove wiser. Farewell!"

Not having a canon for this at hand and not using Google, I think it's Turin after he's accidentally-ish killed Saeros.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"J"s?

[Inziladun]

Well done, Mnemosyne. Take it away!
Looks like you almost had it, Tuor.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Please ignore my posting above. I
can't seem to erase or edit it. And
I see Mnemosyne got the quote.

[Mnemosyne]

"- - - - - / - - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - / , - - - - / , - - - / - - - - / - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - / - - - - / - - - - / , - - - / - / - - - - / - - - - - / - - / - - - - - - / , - - / - - - - / - - / - - / - - - - ."

[Inziladun]

May we have the M's, please.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"Y"s?

[Mnemosyne]

M, Y

"- - - - - / - - - - - / - - - / - - - - / m - / , - - - - / , - - - / m - - - / - - m - / - - - / m - - - / - - - - - - / m - - - / - - - - / , - - - / - / - - m - / - - - - - / - - / - - - - - - / , - - / - - - - / - - / m y / - - - - ."

[Isabellkya]

Any a's?

[Mnemosyne]

A, M, Y

"- - - - - / - a - - - / - - - / - a - - / m - / , - - - - / , a - - / m - - - / - - m - / a - - / m a - - / - - - - - - / m - - - / - a - - / , - - - / - / - - m - / a - a - - / - - / - - - - - - / , - - / - - a - / - - / m y / - a - - ."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"k"s?

[Mnemosyne]

A, K, M, Y

"- - - - - / - a - k - / - - - / - a - - / m - / , - - - - / , a - - / m - - - / - - m - / a - - / m a - - / - - - - - - / m - - - / - a - - / , - - - / - / - - m - / a - a - - / - - / - - - - - - / , - - / - - a - / - - / m y / - a - - ."

[Isabellkya]

Any s'?

[Mnemosyne]

A, M, K, S, Y

"- - - - - / - a s k s / - - - / - a - - / m - / , - - - - / , a - - / m - - - / - - m - / a - - / m a - - / - - - - - s / m - s - / - a s s / , - - - / - / - - m - / a - a - - / - - / - - - - - - / , - - / - - a - / - - / m y / - a - - ."

[Guinevere]

Time for T

edit: don't need it after all, I suddenly "saw" what it is:

"Other tasks now call me, lord, and much time and many perils must pass ere I come again to Gondor, if that be my fate."

Thorongil's message to Ecthelion (in app. A)

[Mnemosyne]

Correct! Take it away, Guinevere!

[Guinevere]

thank you, Mnemosyne!

"---/ --/ --------/ ----/ -/ -------/ ---/ ------/ -------/ ---/ --/ ----/ ----/ --/ ----/ ---/ ------."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"r"s?

[Guinevere]

R

"---/ --/ r------r/ ----/ -/ -r----r/ ---/ ---r--/ -------/ ---/ --/ ----/ ----/ --/ ----/ ---/ ------."

[Inziladun]

O's, please.

[Guinevere]

OR

"---/ --/ r------r/ ----/ -/ -r----r/ ---/ ---r--/ -------/ ---/ -o/ -oo-/ ----/ --/ -o--/ -o-/ ------."

[Mnemosyne]

E, please

[Guinevere]

ORE

"-e-/ --/ re-e--er/ ----/ -/ -r----r/ ---/ -e-r--/ ----e--/ ---/ -o/ -oo-/ ----/ -e/ -oe-/ -o-/ ---e--."

[Isabellkya]

Any s'?

[Guinevere]

SORE

"-e-/ -s/ re-e--er/ ----/ -/ -r----r/ ---/ -e-r--/ ---se--/ ---/ -o/ -oo-/ ----/ -e/ -oes/ -o-/ ---e--."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"m"s, please.

[thewichtking]

"M"?:smokin:

[Guinevere]

MORES

"-e-/ -s/ remem-er/ ----/ -/ -r----r/ m--/ -e-r--/ --mse--/ ---/ -o/ -oo-/ ----/ -e/ -oes/ -o-/ ---e--."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"t"s, please.

[Inziladun]

L for me.

[Guinevere]

ELM ROTS (sorry for the forgotten O :()

"Let/ -s/ remem-er/ t--t/ -/ tr--tor/ m--/ -etr--/ --msel-/ ---/ -o/ -oo-/ t--t/ -e/ -oes/ -ot/ --te--."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"Let us remember that a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend. It can be so, sometimes."

Gandalf

[Guinevere]

Yep, that's the one, Tuor :)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Here's the next one.

- - - / - - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - / - - - - - - -/ - - - / - -
- - - - - -; / - - - / - - - / - - - - - - - / - - / - - - / - - - - /
- - - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - /- - / - - - - / - - - - / - - - - - ./
- - - - / - - - - - - / - - - - - - - - - !

[Inziladun]

How about S, to start?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- - - / - - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - / - - - - - - -/ - - s / - -
- - - - - -; / - - - / - - - / - - - - - - - / - - / - - - / - - - - /
- - - - s / - - - - / - - - - - s /- - / - - - s / - - - - / s - - - - ./
- - - - / - - - - - - / - - - - - - - - - !

S

[Mnemosyne]

T for me!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- - - / t - - - - / - - t / t - - t / - - - / - - - t - - -/ - - s / - -
- - - - - -; / - - - / t - - / - - - - - - - / - - / t - - / - - - - /
- - - - s / - - - - / t - - - - s /- - / t - - s / - - - - / s t - - - ./
- - - - / - - - - - - / t - - - - - - - - !

ST

[Guinevere]

O please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- - - / t - - - - / - o t / t - - t / o - - / - - - t - - -/ - - s / - -
- - - - - -; / - o - / t - - / - - - - - - - / - - / t - - / - - - - /
- o - - s / - - - - / t - - - - s /- - / t - - s / - - - - / s t - - - ./
- - - - / - - - - - - / t - - - - - - - - !

STO

[Eönwë]

N please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- n - / t - - n - / n o t / t - - t / o - - / - - - t - n -/ - - s / - - /
- - - n - -; / - o - / t - - / - - - - - - - / - n / t - - / - - - - /
- o - - s / - - n - / t - - n - s /- n / t - - s / - - n - / s t - - - ./
- n - - / - - - - - - / t - - - - - n n - !

SNOT

[Eönwë]

Any "A"s?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

A n - / t - - n - / n o t / t - a t / o - - / - - - t - n -/ - a s / - - /
- - a n - -; / - o - / t - - / - - - - - - - / - n / t - - / - - - - /
- o - - s / - a n - / t - - n - s /- n / t - - s / - a n - / s t - - - ./
A n a - / -a- - - - a / t - - - - a n n a !

not as

[Guinevere]

Ha, I recognize the last three words :) but am too lazy now to go and get the book to look up the rest.

R please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

A n - / t - - n - / n o t / t - a t / o - r / - - - t - n -/ - a s / - - /
- - a n - -; / - o r / t - - / - - - - - - r / - n / t - - / - - - - /
- o - - s / - a n - / t - - n - s /- n / t - - s / - a n - / s t - - - ./
A n a r / -a- - - - a / t - - - - a n n a !

not ras

(No doubt it's some form of elvish). :)
Well, I guess I should put the italics in now.

[Inziladun]

After much pondering, at last I have it!

And think not that our meeting was by chance; for the Dweller in the Deep moves many things in this land still. Anar kaluva tielyanna?!

Gelmir the Elf to Tuor.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

That's it. Gelmir chatting with the
responsible cousin of that hothead Turin.

Rather reminds you of a quote later in UT:
It might all have gone differently indeed. The
main attack was diverted southwards, it is true; and
yet even so with his far-stretched right hand Sauron could
have done terrible harm in the Noirth, while we defended
Gondor, if King Brand and King Dain had not stood in his
path. When you think of the great Battle of Pelennor,
do not forget the battle of Dale. Think of what might
have been. Dragon-fire and savage swords in Eriador!
There might be no Queen in Gondor. We might now only
hope to return from the victory here to fire and ash. But
that has been averted - because I met Thorin Oakenshield
one evening on the edge of spring not far from Bree.
A chance-meeting, as we say in Middle-earth.

[Inziladun]

The message in each is the same isn't it? "Chance", as it relates to seemingly random occurances that have a major impact on events, seems to be absent in ME.

Here's the next one, and my apologies for the delay.

"- - -/ - - -/ - - - -/ - - - -/ - - -/ - - - - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - - - - -/,
- - -/ - -/ - - - -/ - - - -/ - - - -/. - - - - -/ - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - -/ - - - - -/,
- -/ - - -/ - - - - -/ - - - -/ - - -/ - -/ - -!"

[Mnemosyne]

E

[Inziladun]

E


"- e -/ - - e/ - - - -/ - - - e/ - - e/ - e - - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - e - - -/,
- - -/ - e/ - - - -/ - - - e/ - - - -/. - - e - e/ - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - - e/ - - - - -/,
- -/ - - e/ E - - - -/ - - - -/ - e -/ - -/ - e!"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"h"s, please.

[Inziladun]

HE

"- e -/ - h e/ - - - -/ h - - e/ - h e/ - e - - -/ - h - -/ - -/ - h e - - -/,
- - -/ - e/ - - - -/ h - - e/ - - - -/. - h e - e/ - -/ - - - -/ - -/ - h e/ - - - - -/,
- -/ - h e/ E - - - -/ - - - -/ - e -/ - -/ - e!"

[Mnemosyne]

S?

[Guinevere]

T please

[Aganzir]

Any I's?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"R"s, please.

[Inziladun]

HESTIR

"- e t/ t h e/ - r - s/ h - - e/ t h e/ r e - - -/ t h - t/ i s/ t h e i r s/,
- - -/ - e/ - - - -/ h - - e/ - - r s/. T h e r e/ i s/ r - - -/ i -/ t h e/ - - r - -/,
i -/ t h e/ E - - - r/ - i - -/ - e t/ - s/ - e!"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"Y"s?

[Guinevere]

A please

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

T?

[Inziladun]

HESTIRA (No Y)

"- e t/ t h e/ - r - s/ h a - e/ t h e/ r e a - -/ t hat/ i s/ t h e i r s/,
a - -/ - e/ - - - -/ h a - e/ - - r s/. T h e r e/ i s/ r - - -/ i -/ t h e/ - - r - -/,
i -/ t h e/ E - - a r/ - i - -/ - e t/ - s/ - e!"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"c"s?

[Inziladun]

HESTIRAC (No Y)

"- e t/ t h e/ - r c s/ h a - e/ t h e/ r e a - -/ t hat/ i s/ t h e i r s/,
a - -/ - e/ - - - -/ h a - e/ - - r s/. T h e r e/ i s/ r - - -/ i -/ t h e/ - - r - -/,
i -/ t h e/ E - - a r/ - i - -/ - e t/ - s/ - e!"

[Pitchwife]

"Let the Orcs have the realm that is theirs, and we will have ours. There is room in the world, if the Eldar will let us be!" - Amlach son of Imlach (or somebody masquerading as him) in council at Estolad .

[Inziladun]

That's it indeed, Pitchwife.
Take the thread.

[Pitchwife]

Thanks! Here we go:

----/--/----! --/-----/--/--/-----,/---/--/----/-----/-------/---/------/--/---/---/------./--/---/---/-----/--/-----/---/---/-----/-----./---/----/--=--,/--/----/---/-----/--/------.

(= is a hyphen, read - .)

[Mnemosyne]

O

[Pitchwife]

O:

----/-o/----! --/-----/--/--/-----,/---/--/----/-----/-------/---/---o--/--/---/---/------./--/---/---/-----/--/-----/---/---/-----/-o---./---/----/--=--,/--/----/---/-----/-o/------.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"n"s, please.

[Inziladun]

How about T?

[Pitchwife]

NOT :


T---/no/----! --/-----/--/--/----t,/-n-/--/--n-/--n--/-------/---/---o--/--/---/---/--t---./--/---/---/-----/--/----t/-n-/t--/-----/-o---./--t/t---/--=--,/--/t---/--n/-----/no/--tt--.

[Guinevere]

A please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"L"s, please.

[Pitchwife]

ALNOT :

Ta--/no/----! --/---a-/a-/--/----t,/an-/a-/--n-/--n--/-----l-/---/---o--/--/-a-/l--/a-t-a-./--/a--/---/-----/--/----t/an-/t--/-l---/-o---./L-t/t---/-a=--,/--/t---/-an/---a-/no/--tt--.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"m"s?

[Pitchwife]

ALMNOT :

Ta--/no/----! --/---a-/a-/--/----t,/an-/a-/--n-/--n--/--m--l-/---/---o--/--/-a-/l--/a-t-a-./--/a--/---/-----/--/----t/an-/t--/-l---/-o---./L-t/t---/-a=--,/--/t---/-an/---a-/no/--tt--.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

R?

[Pitchwife]

ALMNROT :

Ta--/no/----! --/---a-/a-/--/r---t,/an-/a-/--n-/--n--/--m--l-/---/---or-/--/-a-/l--/a-tra-./--/ar-/---/---r-/--/r---t/an-/t--/-l--r/-o---./L-t/t---/-a=--,/--/t---/-an/---a-/no/--tt-r.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"k"s, please.

[Inziladun]

E's?

[Pitchwife]

AEKLMNROT :

Take/no/-ee-! --/--eak/a-/--/r---t,/an-/a-/K-n-/--n-e/--m-el-/---/-e-ore/-e/-a-/le-/a-tra-./-e/are/---/-e-r-/--/r---t/an-/t-e/el-er/-o--e./Let/t-e-/-a=--,/--/t-e-/-an/--eak/ no/-etter.

Good choices!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"Y"s, please.

[Pitchwife]

AEKLMNROTY :

Take/no/-ee-! --/--eak/a-/--/r---t,/an-/a-/K-n-/--n-e/--m-el-/---/-e-ore/-e/-a-/le-/a-tray./-e/are/---/-e-r-/-y/r---t/an-/t-e/el-er/-o--e./Let/t-e-/-a=--,/--/t-ey/-an/--eak/ no/-etter.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

S?

[Pitchwife]

Sorry, I just noticed I forgot to fill in one of the 'E's:o (guess I shouldn't do this in my coffee break...) Apologies to everybody!

AEKLMNROSTY (corrected):

Take/no/-ee-! -e/s-eak/as/-s/r---t,/an-/as/K-n-/--n-e/--msel-/---/-e-ore/-e/-as/le-/astray./-e/are/--s/-e-rs/-y/r---t/an-/t-e/el-er/-o-se./Let/t-e-/sa=s-,/--/t-ey/-an/s-eak/ no/-etter.

[Inziladun]

Hm. I can piece together many of the individual words, yet can't place the quote.
B?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"c"s?

[Guinevere]

I only lack 2 words, (King --n-e ?? and the enigmatic sa=s- ,yet I have no idea!:(

i please

[Pitchwife]

ABCEIKLMNROSTY :

Take/no/-ee-! -e/s-eak/as/is/ri--t,/an-/as/Kin-/-in-e/-imsel-/-i-/be-ore/-e/-as/le-/astray./-e/are/-is/-eirs/by/ri--t/an-/t-e/el-er/-o-se./Let/t-e-/sa=si,/i-/t-ey/-an/s-eak/ no/better.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"W"s, please.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

P, please!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Except for an apparently nonsense or ribald
word I think have the quote,
but not the speaker.

Take/no/heed!We/speak/as/is/right,/and/as/KingFinwe/himself/did/before/he/was/led/astray./We/are/his/heirs/by/right/and/the/elder/house./Let/them
?????/sa=si,/?????
if/they/can/speak/ no/better.

[Pitchwife]

Tuor, you've got it! The speaker is Feanor, defending the correct pronunciation of þ in Quenya (and deriding that adopted by his stepmother Indis and her children); from The Shibboleth of Feanor, HoME XII. Probably rather esoteric...

Anyway, it's your turn.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Thanks. You must be one of those real M-E
specialists. I have some of CT's specialist
volumes on M-E but haven't really read/studied
them. I'm out for a while but will try to post
sometime today.

[Guinevere]

Aha, that's the solution of this riddle! I was sure that I had never read this quote before.:p

@Pitchwife: in this thread we use quotes from LotR, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales.
For the HoME, there is a separate "Palantir of Fortune"-thread here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=11471).
As you see, nobody posted there since almost 2 years, but you are welcome to revive it!:)

For Tolkien's "Minor Works" there is also a separate Palantir of Fortune thread.

[Inziladun]

I had concluded it was one of Finwë's descendants speaking, but like Guinevere I was flummoxed as to the source.

[Pitchwife]

Apologies to everybody - I wasn't aware that there are different Palantírs for different sources, though I guess I could have found out if I had tried. And I wasn't trying to show off (welll... maybe a little bit;)). By the way, guess where I first learned that this obscure text exists?:)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Interesting. And on reconsideration, since I didn't get
the speaker, why not someone else take the next
quote? Whoever's ready first.

[Inziladun]

You were the closest to having it, Tuor, so I've no problem with you going ahead.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Fair enough. try this one:

- - - ' - / - - - - - / - - - - - - - - - / - - - - - - - / - - - - - - , / - - /
- - - - - - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - / - - / - - - .

[Mnemosyne]

T

[Inziladun]

M for me.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

C, please!

[Guinevere]

Are there any O's?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- o - ' t / - t - - t / - - - m - - - - - / - - - - - - t / o - - - - - , / o - /
- o m - t - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - / - o / - o - .

tomc (no "c"s)

[Guinevere]

S pleassse

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- o - ' t / s t - - t / - - - m - - - - - / - - - - - s t / o - - - - s , / o - /
- o m - t - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - / - o / - o - .

stomc (no "c"s)

[Aganzir]

R's?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- o - ' t / s t - r t / -r- - m - - - - - / - - - - - s t / o r - - r s , / o r /
- o m - t - - - - / - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - / - o / - o - .

rstomc (no "c"s)

[Inziladun]

How about E?

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

A?

[Eönwë]

An 'N' would be useful

[Tuor in Gondolin]

- o n ' t / s t a r t / -r- - m - - - n - / a - a - n s t / o r - e r s , / o r /
- o m e t - - n - / - a - / - - - - / - a - - e n / - o / - o - .

Toms crane (no "c"s)

[Inziladun]

I have the words worked out, and it's maddeningly familiar, but I can't place the speaker...

EDIT- Finally got it.

Don't start grumbling against orders, or something bad will happen to you.

Thorin to Bombur in Mirkwood.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

That's it. The quote was selective to
make it suggestive of, say, an orc.

Your turn.

[Inziladun]

You indeed had me thinking along those lines, which is the reason I found it so vexing.

Here's the next:

- -/ - - - -/ - - - - -/ - -/ - -/ - - -/. - - -/ - - - - - -/ - -/ - - - - -/ - - -/
- - - - - - -/, - - - - - -/ - -/ - -/ - -/ - - -/ - - - - -/ - -/ - - -/ - - - - - -/.

[Eönwë]

Any "O"s?

[Inziladun]

O

- -/ - - - -/ - - - - -/ - -/ o -/ - - -/. - - -/ - - - - - -/ - -/ - - - - -/ - o -/
- o - - - - -/, - - o - - -/ - -/ - -/ - -/ - - -/ - o - - -/ o -/ - - -/ - - - - - -/.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

I?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"a"s, please.

[Guinevere]

N please

[Inziladun]

OIAN

- -/ - i - -/ - - - i -/ - -/ o -/ a - -/. - - -/ - - - - - -/ - -/ - - a - -/ n o -/
- o - - a n -/, - - o - - -/ i -/ - -/ - -/ - - -/ - o - - -/ o -/ - i -/ - a - - - -/.

[Guinevere]

T-time!:)

[Inziladun]

OIANT

- -/ - i - -/ - t - i -/ - -/ o -/ a - -/. - - t/ - - - - - -/ - -/ - - a - -/ n o t/
- o - - a n -/, - - o - - -/ i t/ - -/ - -/ - - -/ - o - t -/ o -/ - i -/ - a t - - -/.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"F"s?

[Guinevere]

How about R?

[Inziladun]

OIANTFR
My apologies for leaving out a couple of Ts previously.

- -/ - i - -/ - t r i -/ - -/ o f/ a - -/. - - t/ - - - - - f/ - -/ - - a - -/ n o t/
- o - - a n -/, t - o - - -/ i t/ - -/ - -/ t - -/ - o - t h/ o f/ h i -/ f a t h - r/.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"L"s?

[Inziladun]

OIANTFRL

- -/ - i l l/ - t r i -/ - -/ o f/ a l l/. - - t/ - - - - l f/ - -/ - - a l l/ n o t/
- o - - a n -/, t - o - - -/ i t/ - -/ - -/ t - -/ - o - t h/ o f/ h i -/ f a t h - r/.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"h"s, please.

[Guinevere]

http://www.myrias.de/Templates/Elrond/images/idea.gif

"He will strip me of all. But myself he shall not command, though it be by the mouth of his father."

The thoughts of Erendis (about Aldarion).

[Inziladun]

You have it, Guinevere.
The thread's yours. :)

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Inziladun!

"----/ ---/ ---/ ----------/ --/ ---/ ---/ ----/ -/ -----/ ---/ ------/," (.....) "----/ -/ ---/ ------/ --/ ---/ ----/ ------/ ----/ --/ ------/, ----------/ ----/ -----/ ---/ ---/ --/ ---/ -----/?"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"w"s?

[Inziladun]

h?

[Guinevere]

WH

"----/ ---/ -h-/ ----------/ --/ -h-/ ---/ -h--/ -/ -----/ ---/ ------/," (.....) "H---/ -/ ---/ ------/ --/ --w/ ----/ ---h--/ ----/ --/ ------/, ----------/ -h--/ w----/ ---/ ---/ --/ -h-/ -----/?"

[Aganzir]

R's?

[Guinevere]

HRW

"---r/ ---/ -h-/ -----r----/ --/ -h-/ ---/ -h--/ -/ -----/ --r/ ------/," (.....) "H---/ -/ ---/ ------/ --/ --w/ ----/ ---h--/ ----/ --/ ------/, --r-------/ -h--/ w-r--/ ---/ ---/ --/ -h-/ -r---/?"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"e"s, please.

[thewichtking]

"S" maybe

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Is there an 'A' in this quote somewhere?

[Guinevere]

WASHER

"S--r/ ---/ -he/ ----er-ess/ --/ -he/ ---/ -ha-/ -/ ---e-/ --r/ --se--/," (.....) "Ha-e/ -/ ---/ -as-e-/ --/ --w/ -a--/ ---h-s/ ----/ --/ -----e/, --re------/ -ha-/ w-rse/ -e-/ -a-/ --/ -he/ -re-s/?"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"v"s?

[Guinevere]

WHARVES

"S--r/ ---/ -he/ ----er-ess/ --/ -he/ ---/ -ha-/ -/ --e-/ --r/ --se--/," (.....) "Have/ -/ ---/ -as-e-/ --/ --w/ -a--/ ---h-s/ ----/ --/ -----e/, --re------/ -ha-/ w-rse/ -e-/ -a-/ --/ -he/ -re-s/?"

[Aganzir]

Some T, please.

[Guinevere]

WHARVES T

"St-r/ --t/ the/ --tter-ess/ --/ the/ ---/ that/ -/ --e-/ --r/ --se--/," (.....) "Have/ -/ --t/ taste-/ -t/ --w/ -a--/ ---hts/ ----/ --/ t----e/, --re------/ that/ w-rse/ -et/ -a-/ --/ the/ -re-s/?"

[Inziladun]

"Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed for myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs?"

That's Denethor speaking to Faramir, lamenting his guilt regarding Boromir's death.

[Guinevere]

Exactly! :) Your turn again, Inziladun!

[Inziladun]

Thanks, Guinevere. I've always liked that quote.

"- - - -/ - - -/ - - - - -/ - - - -/ - - -/ - - - -/ - - -/ - - - -/ - - - - -/,
- - - - - - - - - - -/ - - - - -/ - -/ - - - -/, - - - - - - -/ -/ - - - -/ - -/
- - - - -/ - - - - - - - - -/."

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

A is always a good letter!:)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"n"s, please.

[Aganzir]

Sss?

[Inziladun]

ANS

"- - - n/ - - -/ s - a - -/ - - s -/ a - -/ - - a -/ - - -/ - a - -/ - - - - -/,
- - - - - a s - - n -/ - - a - -/ - n/ - - - -/, s - - - - - -/ a/ - a n -/ - -/
- - - - -/ - - s - - - - - -/."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"d"s, please.

[Inziladun]

SAND

"- - - n/ - - -/ s - a - -/ - - s -/ a - -/ - - a -/ - - -/ - a - -/ - - - - d/,
- - - - - a s - - n -/ d - a - -/ - n/ - - - -/, s - - - - - -/ a/ - a n d/ - -/
- - - - -/ - - s - - - - - -/."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"w"s?

[Inziladun]

WANDS

"- - - n/ - - -/ s - a - -/ - - s -/ a - -/ - - a -/ - - -/ - a - -/ - - - - d/,
- - - - - a s - - n -/ d - a - -/ - n/ - - - -/, s - - - - n -/ a/ - a n d/ - -/
- - - - -/ - - s - w - - - -/."

[Guinevere]

L please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"o"s?

[Inziladun]

WANDSLO

"- - - n/ - o -/ s - a l l/ l o s -/ a l l/ - - a -/ - o -/ - a - -/ l o - - d/,
- o - - - a s - - n -/ d - a - -/ - n/ l - - -/, s - - - - n -/ a/ l a n d/ o -/
- - - l -/ - l s - w - - - -/."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"r"s, please.

[Inziladun]

WANDSLOR

"- - - n/ - o -/ s - a l l/ l o s -/ a l l/ - - a -/ - o -/ - a - -/ l o - - d/,
- o r - - a s - - n -/ d - a - -/ - n/ l - - -/, s - - - - n -/ a/ l a n d/ o -/
- - - - -/ - l s - w - - r -/."

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

T?

[Inziladun]

WANDSLORT

"T - - n/ - o -/ s - a l l/ l o s -/ a l l/ t - a t/ - o -/ - a - -/ l o - - d/,
- o r - t a s t - n -/ d - a t -/ - n/ l - - -/, s - - - - n -/ a/ l a n d/ o -/
- - - - -/ - l s - w - - r -/."

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

E?

[Inziladun]

WANDSLORTE

"T - e n/ - o -/ s - a l l/ l o s e/ a l l/ t - a t/ - o -/ - a - e/ l o - e d/,
- o r e t a s t - n -/ d e a t -/ - n/ l - - e/, s e e - - n -/ a/ l a n d/ o -/
e - - l e/ e l s e w - e r e/."

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Amandil to Elendil the Tall

Then you shall lose all thatyou have loved,
foretasting death in life, seeking a land of
exile elsewhere."

[Inziladun]

You've got it, Tuor.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Try this one:


= is a dash

- - - / - - - - / - - - - / - - - / - - - - - - - - -/ - - - / - - - - /
- - - - / - - - - / - - - - - - / - - - = - - - - - - - - . / - - - /
- - - / - - - - - - - .

[Inziladun]

S, kind sir.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s - - / - - -s- / - - - - / - - - / - - - - - - - - -/ - - - / - - - - /
- - - - / - - - s / - - - - - - / - - - = - - - - - - s s . / - - - /
- - - / - - - - - - - .

S

[Guinevere]

E please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s - e / - - -s- / - - - - / - - - / - - - - - e - - e / - - e / - - - e /
- - - - / - - e s / - e - - - e / - - - = - - - e - e s s . / - e - /
- - - / - e - - - - - .

SE

[Aganzir]

H please.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s h e / - - s- / - - - h / - - - / - h - - - e - - e / - h e / - - - e /
- h - - / - - e s / - e - - - e / - - - = h - - e - e s s . / - e - /
- - - / - e - - - - - .

SHE

[Guinevere]

T-time!:)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s h e / - - st / - - t h / - - - / - h - - - e - - e / t h e / - - t e /
t h - t / - - e s / - e - - - e / - - - = h - - e - e s s . / - e t /
- - t / - e - t - - - .

THES

[Eönwë]

An M if you may, good sir!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s h e / m - st / - - t h / - - - / - h - - - e - - e / t h e / - - t e /
t h - t / - - e s / - e - - - e / - - - = h - - e - e s s . / - e t /
- - t / - e - t - - - .

T MESH

[Guinevere]

How about O?

[Eönwë]

Any "U"s?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s h e / m u st / - - t h / - o u / - h - - - e - - e / t h e / - - t e /
t h - t / - - e s / - e - o - e / - o u = h o - e - e s s . / - e t /
- o t / - e - t - - - .

e mouths

[Inziladun]

R?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

= is a dash

s h e / m u st / - - t h / - o u / - h - - - e - - e / t h e / - - t e /
t h - t / - - e s / - e - o r e / - o u = h o - e - e s s . / - e t /
- o t / - e r t - - - .

re mouths

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

[Huan:S]he must with you challenge the fate that lies before you--hopeless, yet not certain.

TS XIX:)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

That's it. It's your turn.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Thanks. :)

----/-----/---/---/! ----/--/-------/! ----/!---/--/----/----/---/--/.

[Inziladun]

A, please.

[Guinevere]

Are there any O's ?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"u"s?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

--a-/-----/-ou/a--/! --a-/--/--a--o-/! -a--/!a--/--/----/-a--/-ou/--/. :smokin:

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"L"s?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

--a-/-----/-ou/a--/! --a-/--/--a--o-/! -a--/!a--/--/--ll/-a--/-ou/--/. :)

[Guinevere]

Well, at least I can figure out the first 4 words :)

R please

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"n"s, please.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

--a-/---r-/-ou/ar-/! -ra-/n-/--a--on/! -a--/!an-/--/--ll/-a--/-ou/--/.I suppose this is enough? :D

[Inziladun]

Hm. How about S?

[Guinevere]

:)
"Stay where you are!" said Gandalf. "Draw no weapons! Wait! and it will pass you by."

(on the road to Isengard, when they hear the ents and huorns going back to Fangorn)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Still as quick as ever, Ma'am Guinevere. :)

Thread is yours.

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Nilpaurion :) Nice to meet you here again!

"---/ ----! ---/ -----/ --/ -/ -----/ -----/ --/ ---/ ------/ --/ ---/ ----/ ------/ --/ ----/ --/ -/ -----/ ---/ --/ ---/ -----!"

[Tuor in Gondolin]

"r"s, please.

[Inziladun]

May we have the Ls please?