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the phantom
09-06-2005, 08:22 AM
Not very smart, Enca.

Fea will probably botch it.

Feanor of the Peredhil
09-06-2005, 08:23 AM
I should neg-rep you just for saying that. :p

And isn't there a rule somewhere about players posting superfluously here? :D

the phantom
09-06-2005, 08:42 AM
That wasn't a superfluous post- it was a desperate plea to the mod not to hand you the reigns.

*insert wink-smilie here*

Folwren
09-06-2005, 09:05 AM
If this is where we post about our evident silence, then I've got my excuses, too.

I work three days a week, and on top of that, I've got school......when I'm at home, I have horses that take up all of my time, and, again, school. So, I really have as little time as everybody else here. Well, good, I don't feel quite as out of place now.

- Folwren

Durelin
09-06-2005, 04:38 PM
Okay, you've heard this all before, so I'll make it brief.

I go to this imprisoning, mind-numbing, depressing institution called high school. Yeah, I know, it sucks. It sucks so hard, that I find myself sucked into a 7-8 hour day with it+, so...my excuse for being one of the useless people who throw things off in werewolf because there's no point to them.

No offense to anyone. Except me.

And please pretend that was brief.

Encaitare
09-08-2005, 06:13 PM
Certain things have been brought to my attention, so I'd like to say a few things:

1. Please don't talk publicly about a current game -- you never know if someone may read it and try to infer things from your words. In other words, keep it to the game thread and this thread.

2. I'm really not feeling the bloodlust in this game! Don't apologize for voting for people before they've even died! That's the whole point of the game! :D No, actually the point I am trying to make here is that you shouldn't talk after voting has closed, until the next Day.

3. If there's any doubt about who is killing whom, it's always listed under "the deceased" for handy-dandy reference. :)

Azaelia of Willowbottom
09-08-2005, 06:20 PM
Intrigueing to the last. Now that I'm dead, I'm looking forward to see what develops. I've got a few theories, but that's all hush-hush.

And I'm sorry, Enca. Next time I'll try to be more carnal...hehehe. My occupation should have been a warning. I like flowers, not blood.

That being said, I can't wait for WW X...If it's not an invitational, count me in :)

Glirdan
09-08-2005, 06:25 PM
Yes, really good game. Sorry to all those I lynched (Alca and Bergil) and those I attacked (Kitanna and Morm). It was in the name of the game.

That being said, I can't wait for WW X...If it's not an invitational, count me in

Yes, likewise. This is an awsome game and I would love to play again.

Gil-Galad
09-08-2005, 06:30 PM
i have ideas for the next WW game... it would be interesting if anyone is willing too listen, and i could always co-moderate with somebody

The Saucepan Man
09-08-2005, 06:42 PM
I may not be able to play in the next game, as I am out of the country without proper access to the net, from 18 to 23 September.

But I do agree with the idea some have suggested that the 10th game should go back to its roots: 3 Wolves, 1 Seer and 8 ordinary villagers. I do not agree, however, that it should be an "invitational", since that would be somewhat elitist. I suppose that it should be first come first served.

But all in good time. We have a game currently underway and there should be no signing up until that has finished.

Alcarillo
09-08-2005, 06:47 PM
So, just wondering, who will be the next game's moderator?

But I do agree with the idea some have suggested that the 10th game should go back to its roots: 3 Wolves, 1 Seer and 8 ordinary villagers. I do not agree, however, that it should be an "invitational", since that would be somewhat elitist. I suppose that it should be first come first served.

I agree, although I think I'll take a break from the next game.

Formendacil
09-08-2005, 06:50 PM
I too will add to the vote for a "back-to-the-basics" game, but while I would like to play it is too early to determine yet if I would be able, so I- if no other- am glad there is currently a moratorium on signing up.

Gil-Galad
09-08-2005, 06:51 PM
i might as well sign up for WW X...

The Saucepan Man
09-08-2005, 06:57 PM
We have a game currently underway and there should be no signing up until that has finished.

i might as well sign up for WW X... :rolleyes:

You'd best come back when it's time to sign up then, Gil.

Glirdan
09-08-2005, 07:06 PM
But all in good time. We have a game currently underway and there should be no signing up until that has finished.

Curses! Oh well, I can wait. But I like the way we played this game. I'd rather play it the way we did this time.

Ainaserkewen
09-08-2005, 09:43 PM
Goodness gracious the rules have changed since the good old days. There was some talk about going "back to the basics", sounds good to me. I'll play the next game (if I can understand it).

Oh but wait...no signing up yet. You didn't see me. *poof*

Shelob
09-09-2005, 02:27 PM
Reclaiming this thread for purposes of announcing when one can and cannot play I'm just letting you all know that I'm busy this evening and again tomorrow morning for an indefinite amount of time. I will be able to post, just not until well into the DAY.

Thanks.

Folwren
09-09-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Encaitare:
I'm really not feeling the bloodlust in this game! Don't apologize for voting for people before they've even died! That's the whole point of the game! No, actually the point I am trying to make here is that you shouldn't talk after voting has closed, until the next Day.

I apologize. I don't like too terrible much violence, therefore I am sorry when I lynch an innocent.

And I'll not post again after the voting is over. Didn't know that was agains the law...I'll keep it in mind, though. :)

- Folwren

Kath
09-09-2005, 03:51 PM
I should now be back to full ability to post (stupid parents banning the internet, what were they thinking!?!). Nilp however says that he may be unable to do so tomorrow but will try to get on if he can.

Encaitare
09-09-2005, 05:35 PM
I apologize. I don't like too terrible much violence, therefore I am sorry when I lynch an innocent.

You should be sorry when you lynch an innocent -- I meant that the conversation after the voting was a little weird, because people were saying "no hard feelings, okay?" before the lynching even happened. I wouldn't be sorry beforehand if I thought it was a werecreature I had voted to die.

The Saucepan Man
09-09-2005, 05:53 PM
Please note!

Absolutely no comments should be made about the current game in this thread by players, except for the purpose of notifying or explaining absences.

There is far too much chat flying about concerning this game!

Glirdan
09-09-2005, 08:41 PM
You should be sorry when you lynch an innocent -- I meant that the conversation after the voting was a little weird, because people were saying "no hard feelings, okay?" before the lynching even happened. I wouldn't be sorry beforehand if I thought it was a werecreature I had voted to die.

Hey, a double lynch. Come on. I don't think anyone was excpecting that, not even you Enca. When we started Day 3, I was quite aware that I was most likely the one to get lynched. I wasn't at all expecting that bothe me and Zali would have gotten lynched. I do however agree that we should have waited to see what would have happened and then talk about it later. I know I'm contradicting myself here, but that's what I do best, contradict myself. ;) :rolleyes:

The Saucepan Man
09-10-2005, 09:31 AM
Absolutely no comments should be made about the current game in this thread by players, except for the purpose of notifying or explaining absences.That include dead players, Glirdan!

Please refrain from commenting on the game until it is over or you may end up spoiling it.

wilwarin538
09-13-2005, 02:26 PM
Alas I have to work tonight till 11pm EST. I will be tired when so will probably not post. Then tomorrow morning my mother is letting me sleep in and then I will be going straight to school, getting me there right before my class starts. I can't go in the computer room with food so I can't post at lunch. :rolleyes:

Basically(that is so spelled wrong) what I'm trying to say is that the chances of you hearing from me before 3:30pm EST tomorrow is slim, but not all together impossible. ;)

Have a nice day. :D

WaynetheGoblin
09-13-2005, 04:19 PM
My best tooth was pulled out. If you ask me the villigers are doomed. :(

The Saucepan Man
09-13-2005, 07:47 PM
Absolutely no comments should be made about the current game in this thread by players, except for the purpose of notifying or explaining absences. That include dead players ...In fact, it applies particularly to dead players ... :rolleyes:

Encaitare
09-13-2005, 08:51 PM
Use of this thread for anything while a game is going on other than to explain absences will force me to throw an apple at you, regardless of what a waste of good fruit it is.

(Hey, it's better than Sauce throwing a pan at you -- it'll hurt less, and you can eat it afterwards.)

The Saucepan Man
09-14-2005, 06:19 PM
Any volunteers to moderate Werewolf X? It should be someone who has a reasonable amount of experience at the game.

The Perky Ent
09-14-2005, 06:26 PM
Well...I don't know if it's time to bring this up yet, but I'd like to play on WWX. I've been watching IX since its start, and I wanna do it justice.

If not, sorry to waste a post :D

Boromir88
09-14-2005, 06:49 PM
I'd be interested in Joining X. I hope One game is considered a reasonable amount :confused: .

Meneltarmacil
09-14-2005, 06:56 PM
I'd like to join the game, but am willing to sit out if someone else who hasn't gone yet really wants to play.

Kitanna
09-14-2005, 07:10 PM
I would also like to play in this next game, but like Menel, if anyone who hasn't played wants a chance, I will give them my spot in the game.

mormegil
09-14-2005, 07:30 PM
Before I join I am interested in knowing what the rules will be so until the moderator signs up and lays down the law I won't sign up.

wilwarin538
09-14-2005, 07:57 PM
Any volunteers to moderate Werewolf X? It should be someone who has a reasonable amount of experience at the game.

Oh I would love to...... but I'm not sure how great I would be at it....... but it would be so fun....... though I'm not really that violent......but I've been known to be creative.....I don't know, I'd like to but I probably wouldnt be very good at it. If anything I'm willing to be a back up mod, if no one else is interested. But I may have to take that back with school and all.

:confused: :confused: :confused: (<----those are the confused ones)

I JUST DONT KNOW!!!!!! If you guys think I could do it then I will.

wilwarin538
09-14-2005, 08:23 PM
Alright I have thought about it. Aslong as no one is against it I would love to mod WWX. :D

Alcarillo
09-14-2005, 08:26 PM
Wilwa, just wondering, if you're perhaps you're gone for a day, could I be a back-up mod?

Kuruharan
09-14-2005, 08:33 PM
Even though I rather disapprove of all this signing up before the current game is finished...

I second mormegil's desire to have the rules set before I decide to play.

Kitanna
09-14-2005, 08:36 PM
Even though I rather disapprove of all this signing up before the current game is finished...
But you see the current game is finished!

Orominuialwen
09-14-2005, 10:36 PM
I would love to mod a game, but almost certainly won't have time to do so until late December/early January. I haven't even had time to really read the past 2 games, much less play or mod in any while I still have school. If we still have interest in games at the end of the year I'd like to do one, but until then I must sit out.

mormegil
09-14-2005, 10:41 PM
Just to make it clear what I'm looking for is a game of no more than 15 with no crazy roles such as the bear. Just a basic game would be great.

Gurthang
09-14-2005, 10:52 PM
Granted, I will not be playing in this game either. (Adjusting to college + pledging with a fraternity = minimal extra time.)

Although, I would like to read a game that is simpler. I didn't read any of the earlier ones, not any until VII actually. I'd be interested to see if some of the lesser special roles come more into play. In the games I've read, the Hunter and Ranger have had minimal impact. Still, more special roles means that more people have more fun... theoretically. :rolleyes:

the phantom
09-14-2005, 10:52 PM
Sooner or later I plan on modding a game.

I could do WW X, or possibly I won't mod until WW XX. It all depends on when people ask me to do it.

I don't have any set plans so I don't care either way, but if everyone starts riotously clamoring for me to fill the mod spot, I'll do it.

Anguirel
09-15-2005, 12:33 AM
I'd love to join in again. It's been a long time since my last fix...

I like the Baroque roles, not having experienced many of them, but I can see others want a break from them...

Cailín
09-15-2005, 12:38 AM
The last game was really addictive. ;)

I would love to join X, especially if it means less special roles - just the villagers against the wolves with perhaps one Seer. However, since I just played, I'm willing to sit this one out and wait for the next.

Lalaith
09-15-2005, 01:00 AM
I'd like to play this one please, but only if there's room.

Kath
09-15-2005, 02:32 AM
I'd like to play again but I'll give my place up to anyone who hasn't played before if requested.

The Saucepan Man
09-15-2005, 03:13 AM
As I seem to have become unofficial 'caretaker' of this thread, I would like to reaffirm two rules and make a plea.

*Puts on caretaker hat*

Firstly, there should be no discussion of the game whatsoever other than by active (ie surviving) players on the game thread and this thread (for admin purposes only) only. There was far too much discussion and PM'ing going on about this last game by dead and non-participating players and it looked like this might spoil it at one stage.

*Glares at Perky and Glirdan*

I would suggest that, as far as possible, there should be no PM'ing about the game between anyone (including those not participating) except as allowed under the rules (ie Werewolves and Shirriffs only). The more people that know who has what role, the more likely it is to get out and prejudice the game.

Second, there should be no posting on the game thread by any player after voting has ended on a Day until the next Day has begun. Apologising to someone for having voted for them (whether just before they are lynched or subsequently in this thread) is wholly outside the spirit of the game - and could unfairly influence the game.

*Glares at Folwren*

Third, please could people not put themselves down to play unless they know that they will be able to get on-line to post and vote on a reasonably regular basis. I lost track of the number of excuses coming out to explain non-appearance and non-voting in the last game. I understand that the unexpected can happen but please take a sensible approach in assessing whether you will be able to devote sufficient time to play in a particular game.

I might add that all the failures to vote in the last game had a rather limiting effect on the deductive element (which is the part that I enjoy). It is fine to make a tactical decision not to vote and it is inevitable that there will be occasional difficulties in voting due to unforeseen events. But, if you are constantly having to explain why you didn't vote the previous Day, you should be questioning whether you should be really be playing in the game.

Oh, and I think that making up excuses to explain a tactical non-appearance or non-vote should be forbidden. External events (fictional or real) should not be used to influence the game. Not that I think much of that goes on. But there is scope for it when people are posting their excuses in the game thread. That's why all excuses should be posted here, where no lies may be told.

*Takes off caretaker hat*

Well, it looks like wilwa will be moderating the next game, as she was the first to volunteer. Wilwa, would you like to set out the roles 'n rules that you intend to use?

Personally, I would support a return to "basics". Perhaps not the bare 3 Wolves and 1 Seer, but another game with 3 Wolves, 1 Seer, 1 Hunter, 1 Guardian and the return of the Cursed would be good. Although there should really be no more than 12-15 players in those circumstances, to preserve game balance.

I'd be interested to see if some of the lesser special roles come more into play. In the games I've read, the Hunter and Ranger have had minimal impact.Actually, I believe that those roles have had more impact with the greater mutliplicity of roles. Certainly, in the first two games, they had little impact at all.

I won't be able to play again now until 23 September. If the next game doesn't start before then, then count me in. Otherwise, please feel free to go ahead without me.

Lalaith
09-15-2005, 03:56 AM
I completely agree with all that you've said Saucie...

One thing I thought that might help (newbies in particular) with commitment and absences.

Once the final number of players is decided, the mod could post the start date, and calculate the approximate likely length of the game in days (minimum and maximum),so if at that point players see that they are going to have too many RL issues within the likely timeframe, they could pull out before the game starts.

(I speak from experience here, in WWVIII, I miscalculated gameplay time and found myself going on holiday in the middle of all the excitement. Luckily I was killed anyway, so it didn't affect my fellow players....)

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 05:20 AM
Perfect Saucy. That's basically how I wanted to play this one.

So there will be 15 players(my age actually)

3 wolves
1 ranger
1 hunter
1 seer
9 villagers

I work one night shift a week so there will be a time every week I will need someone to help me out. Alcarillo I believe volunteered and I will hold him to that.

I would like all the Days and Nights to start and end at 7pm EST. That seemed to work nicely for everyone in the last game.

Once I have 15 players I will announce when it starts. I have to go to school now but you will get more details when I get home at 3pm.

Have a nice day! :D

WaynetheGoblin
09-15-2005, 05:38 AM
I would like to play this game. I think I will be a rich merchent.

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 05:48 AM
I would definetly like to play. I'll get back to you on my occupation.

The Perky Ent
09-15-2005, 06:19 AM
[QUOTE=The Saucepan Man]
*Glares at Perky and Glirdan*


/wave


hehe. I'd like to play in the next one, if that's ok with y'all.

Anguirel
09-15-2005, 06:25 AM
If we're onto roles, I will be a villainous outlaw and poacher, one of the Gaurwaith...

Holbytlass
09-15-2005, 06:25 AM
I had asked to mod wwx. So if there aren't any who volunteered before me, looks like I'm it.

dancing spawn of ungoliant
09-15-2005, 06:27 AM
I'd like to mod a game sometime in the future. I see that there are quite many other mod candidates already but add me to the list. ;)

I'd like to play in this next game as well.

arcticstorm
09-15-2005, 06:31 AM
As I am getting more used to the routine here at college, I would like to join in htis next game

Holbytlass
09-15-2005, 06:33 AM
Okay, I will step aside to let Wilwarin do WWX (I didnt see this page when I posted). But SpM, please, mark me down for WWXI.

The Saucepan Man
09-15-2005, 07:01 AM
Okay, I will step aside to let Wilwarin do WWX (I didnt see this page when I posted). But SpM, please, mark me down for WWXI.Sorry Holby. I had forgotten your prior request. WWXI is yours.

So there will be 15 playersWith only 3 Wolves, I wonder if the numbers rather favour the Villagers. I wonder whether a reintroduction of the Cursed Villager might be in order. Then, the line-up will be identical to WWII, almost a return to basics.

Once I have 15 players I will announce when it starts.I won't know whether I can play 'til I know when it's going to start ...

mormegil
09-15-2005, 07:05 AM
I'm thinking, for my wife's sake, I will sit this one out. She is due to deliver anyday now so I probably should commit any spare time to that. I'll plan on playing XI though and hope it's a continuation of the basics though.

Celuien
09-15-2005, 08:03 AM
I'd love to play again, but I won't know if I can until I know when it's going to start.

Márcolië Lamen
09-15-2005, 08:13 AM
I feel guilty saying I'd be interested in playing if theirs room because I'm extremely new, but if there is room I would be interested.

Kuruharan
09-15-2005, 09:24 AM
Silly me! I just opened the last page and didn’t scroll down to the bottom. :o That’ll teach me to be so sloppy. ;)

no crazy roles such as the bear.

Oddly enough, it’s not the bear that bugs me. It’s more the Cobbler, which I don’t like because to my eyes it is a role designed to lose no matter what happens…but I digress.

Sign me up.

Kitanna
09-15-2005, 09:27 AM
I would like to play in this next game.

the phantom
09-15-2005, 09:33 AM
*raises hand*

I'm in.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-15-2005, 11:28 AM
I had some points to raise but it appears that Saucy got there before me – just as well, as he put it better than I would have.

My main complaint is the appeal to RL. We should all try to eliminate it from the game thread. If you had a ton of homework to do last night, don't tell me about it. Let me try to figure out for myself if you're being quiet deliberately or if your limited posting is due to RL. But let's keep Werewolf as a game that we can all lose ourselves in.

And if the Moderator says to stop posting, then stop posting.

Is the love for the Bear still there? :D I am still completely against it.

mormegil
09-15-2005, 11:33 AM
Is the love for the Bear still there? :D I am still completely against it.

Meh! It's okay in my opinion. I would love to play that role but it's rather annoying to play against. I'm not overly fond of the role, as I already stated I'm looking to play in a basic game, which Wilwa will be modding but I cannot this time. I hope we continue to have a good mix of games so that everyone interested in the various roles will be satisfied.

Mithalwen
09-15-2005, 11:40 AM
Does noone else like the Mythomaniac? I think it is good for situations where it is borderline whether the balance is fair....

mormegil
09-15-2005, 11:43 AM
Does noone else like the Mythomaniac? I think it is good for situations where it is borderline whether the balance is fair....

I have to answer with a yes/no. I thought it was immensely fun to have 4 wolves, in your game but having 2 seers was a bit of an overkill. Then again the odds are they will pick an innocent villager. However, if they were to pick a hunter or ranger to become I think that would be fun and not upset the balance too much.

Anguirel
09-15-2005, 11:44 AM
Personally, I am on advocate of the "lay the bizarre roles on with a trowel" approach...

Eonwe
09-15-2005, 11:45 AM
I wouldn't mind playing. if there's room, that is.

Boromir88
09-15-2005, 12:44 PM
If there's still room, count me in. I'd love to do another game.

as brought in by SpM, I would also be in favor of having a cursed villager.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 01:11 PM
OK then Cursed Villager is in. Now I believe I'm not supposed to tell the cursed villager he is cursed. Am I right?

Be back in a sec with a list of the players so far.

Kath
09-15-2005, 01:17 PM
I liked the mythomaniac, but then, it gave me an opportunity to play a wolf so I guess I'm a little biased!

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 01:24 PM
Uh oh. I have 20 players signed up. I'm afraid that 5 people will have to drop out. Man that sucks! :mad: I believe Kath, Kitanna and Menel all said they would be willing to drop out, do you want me to count you guys out?

I would like to send the roles out Saturday, making Night one start at 7pm EST on Saturday.

Mithalwen
09-15-2005, 01:26 PM
I liked the mythomaniac, but then, it gave me an opportunity to play a wolf so I guess I'm a little biased!

Ah the mormegil effect..... ironic that you were about the only one able to spot a wolf at that point ;)

Kath
09-15-2005, 01:30 PM
I'll drop out wilwa, I think my parents want my time spent on schoolwork at the moment anyway. Like that is going to prepare me for the real world as well as this does :rolleyes:

Ah the mormegil effect..... ironic that you were about the only one able to spot a wolf at that point
I was quite proud of myself until I realised that of course, I couldn't tell anyone!

Bergil
09-15-2005, 03:27 PM
Is there room left. if so count me in. role-wise I'll be a "superstitious guy". I anxiously await the start of the game, which will be announced clearly soon, I hope.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 03:31 PM
Sorry Bergil its full. Actually its overflowing. :rolleyes: I also already announced when I would like to start, so people start informing me of what your job will be.

Also a reminder. I have 19 players and I only want 15, anyone willing to sit this one out?

Bergil
09-15-2005, 03:43 PM
I'll do that next time,then.

Ainaserkewen
09-15-2005, 03:52 PM
I don't know if I'm on the list or not...but if I am I'm out this time...to much to do this week.

Gil-Galad
09-15-2005, 04:16 PM
i want to be on if theres space!!! please and thanks

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 04:25 PM
Thanks Aina. Gil you are already one the list.

So just three more to drop out please. Are you still willing Menel and Kitanna?

Oh and I was thinking of naming the town Tinseltown. What do you think?

Gil-Galad
09-15-2005, 04:35 PM
sorry Wilwa, i couldn't find a list so i didn't know...

arcticstorm
09-15-2005, 04:40 PM
Here I will sit out this one so as to help decrease the number to fifteen

Meneltarmacil
09-15-2005, 04:52 PM
Alright, I guess I'll drop out too.

The Perky Ent
09-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Tinseltown? Werewolf Christmas Special ? The Ents go to Hollywood :D

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 04:58 PM
Tinseltown? Werewolf Christmas Special ? The Ents go to Hollywood

I was thinking the same thing Perky. Interesting name Wilwa. I'm fine with it.

Ainaserkewen
09-15-2005, 05:13 PM
Wilwa, you rock. I'll read this episode just because you're running it.

The legends of Legendary Frog live on!

The Perky Ent
09-15-2005, 05:20 PM
The one saga to rule them all


One saga indeed. Let's hope it's a fun one!

Celuien
09-15-2005, 05:28 PM
Starting on Saturday works for me (hurray for vacation week). And Tinseltown sounds like a great name.

I'm a town eccentric best known for my vast collection of pet frogs.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 05:32 PM
Alright thanks everyone. I hate that people had to drop out, I just didn't want a huge massive game.

The list:

Anguirel-villainous outlaw and poacher, one of the Gaurwaith
Azealia of Willowbottom
Boromir88- Cafe owner
Cailěn
Celuien- the town eccentric best known for her vast collection of pet frogs.
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant
Eonwe
Gil-Galad-Escape Artist / Womanizer
Glirdan-teacher
Kitanna
Kuruharan-theater owner/traveling faire operator
Lalaith
Márcolië Lamen-expert on Gadian Literature
The Perky Ent-experimenting food merchant(spices racks and all)
the phantom
WaynetheGoblin-rich merchant

So that's sixteen then, I think that should be fine, I just don't want to force anyone else to drop out. :( If I missed anyone's name or I put someone there that doesn't belong just tell me. Also if anyone's name is spelt wrong just go ahead and correct me.

The roles:
3 Wolves
1 Hunter
1 Ranger
1Cursed Villager
1 Seer
9 Ordinary Villagers

I rather like Tinseltown, I'm glad you do to. The one I had thought of originally was the Town of Jabadaloo, a word my friend and I made up. But this one is better. ;)

You rock to Aina! :D

Oh and I would like your career/job thingy if I don't have one by Saturday I'll make one up for you.

Celuien
09-15-2005, 05:43 PM
Celuin- the town eccentric best known for his/her(?) vast collection of pet frogs.


Most definitely her. :D

Boromir88
09-15-2005, 05:51 PM
Tinseltown is a great name. There's a theatre by me named Tinseltown, I think it's the best one in the area.

As for my role, I'll be the Cafe owner, gotta have your coffee.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 05:52 PM
How about we start tomorrow night at 7pmEST and make Saturday Night 1? Cause I am really anctious to get this game started, and it would probably be better to have Day 1 on a weekend. :D

Does that work for everyone?

Kuruharan
09-15-2005, 05:52 PM
If it is going to be Tinseltown then I'm the theater owner/traveling faire operator (or maybe just an Operator).

I'm the one who gets to use the cool phrases like "You'll never work in this town again!" and wear shades even though they haven't been invented yet. ;)

Boromir88
09-15-2005, 05:59 PM
wilwarin, anything's good for me.

Kuruharan, funny role, I look forward to enjoying a game of werewolves with all of you.

Ainaserkewen
09-15-2005, 06:02 PM
WaynetheGoblin-rich merchant Now, I don't know this kid, but it's funny that they're part of this when Wayne is sooo part of the One Ring to Rule them All series...

I feel observant.

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 06:04 PM
We can start anytime. I love the name, as I've stated before. I think the Town of Jabadaloo would have cool to. But I'm fine with everything.

Márcolië Lamen
09-15-2005, 06:10 PM
a town eccentric best known for my vast collection of pet frogs.

Aww, that makes me need to come up with a new role. I was going to be the crazy old lady with 100 cats...

Instead I'll be ...the town member who is still thinking of her role ;). I'm debating smurf, robot, expert of Gadian Literature, or something incredably geeky relating to math, and I'm stuck at what that last one is.

And wilwin, that works for me.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 06:14 PM
Actually I will be the math geek thank you very much. Yes the mod is aloud a role and mine will come into play. ;)

Márcolië Lamen
09-15-2005, 06:21 PM
Actually I will be the math geek thank you very much. Yes the mod is aloud a role and mine will come into play. ;)

Aww, lost another role I wanted. Now I can't have an excuse to spout off deivatives and talk about the change in respect to time of the village ;).

Ok, I guess I won't be the math geek. I'll be the expert on Gadian Literature following off of Shelob's role in the last game...hope it doesn't look suspicious to be learning from the last werewolf ;)

The Perky Ent
09-15-2005, 06:32 PM
Can i be the experimenting food merchant? Spice racks and all?

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 06:35 PM
Jobs updated.

Well I have picked out the roles. I did it randomly, hat and all. But I won't send them out until about 4pm EST tomorrow. Just in case someone drops out or something happens.

This will be a very fun game, I can't wait! :D :D :D

Gil-Galad
09-15-2005, 06:38 PM
put me as a Escape Artist / Womanizer... :smokin:

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 06:44 PM
here's a new list:

Anguirel-villainous outlaw and poacher, one of the Gaurwaith
Azealia of Willowbottom
Boromir88- Cafe owner
Cailěn
Celuien- the town eccentric best known for her vast collection of pet frogs.
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant
Eonwe-boondock saint
Gil-Galad-Escape Artist / Womanizer
Glirdan-teacher
Kitanna
Kuruharan-theater owner/traveling faire operator
Lalaith
Márcolië Lamen-expert on Gadian Literature
The Perky Ent-experimenting food merchant(spice racks and all)
the phantom
WaynetheGoblin- rich man, owns a big mansion

I did update the other one but this way you don't have to look as hard to find it. ;)

The Perky Ent
09-15-2005, 06:49 PM
*hugs the Moddess Goddess*

My eyes are safe...for now. I looked back on WW2, and read about what happened to the seer's eyes. Ouch! :cool:

Eonwe
09-15-2005, 06:56 PM
i shall be...a boondock siant. fear my wrath, ye beasty fiends!

um first game...what's teh cursed villager? and the mythomatic?

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 06:58 PM
um first game...what's teh cursed villager? and the mythomatic?

I'd like to know the same thing. It's only my second game and we didn't play with those last time.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 06:59 PM
The cursed villager doesn't know that he/she is cursed. If the wolves kill the cursed villager that villager becomes a wolf.

We won't be having a mytho so no need for me to explain that.

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 07:00 PM
Ok. So when the cursed villager gets killed, he becomes a wolf and helps the wolves?

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 07:02 PM
Ok. So when the cursed villager gets killed, he becomes a wolf and helps the wolves?

That is correct Professeur Glirdan. ;)

Gil-Galad
09-15-2005, 07:02 PM
i'm still thinking of my womanizing lines... Wilwa, i might PM for some reminders

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 07:04 PM
OOOO!!! So I'm a French teacher to!?!? Cool!!!!! :D And thanks for that clarification Wilwa.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 07:09 PM
Oops the French in me came out there. Whats the English word? profeser maybe?

The Saucepan Man
09-15-2005, 07:10 PM
Ok. So when the cursed villager gets killed, he becomes a wolf and helps the wolves?No. Only if he gets killed by the Wolves. Not if he gets lynched.

I am rather sorry to be missing out on this one as I was looking forward to a pared down game and the cast looks good.

Enjoy.

Encaitare
09-15-2005, 07:25 PM
I have a question pertaining to the game that hopefully a mod [*coughSaucecough*] can answer. We know that mods have certain superpowers. Can they see the other recipients of a PM? When I was sending out roles, I sent Sauce's separately from the other villagers' just in case.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 07:28 PM
Just some random little rules I want for this game:

~ votes are irretractable
~ no mass lynchings, two people lynched at the same time is the max I will allow
~ no players (dead or alive) are aloud to post on this thread about the current game
~ no PMing between players, Wolves are the only ones aloud to PM
~ ^ Wolves can only PM during the night
~ I want at least one post from each player each Day, or else you will be lynched. :mad: Unless you have a very good RL reason
~ no posting during Night phase
~ no signing up for the next game until this one is done
~ can any one who is not playing refrain from posting in this thread about what is happening in the current game

Thank you very much!

Kitanna
09-15-2005, 07:30 PM
It looks like I must pick a village role. I've always been fond of the crazy cat lady...so despite my hate for cats I want to be that crazy cat lady.

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 07:32 PM
Oops the French in me came out there. Whats the English word? profeser maybe?

Actually, it would be proffessor. And I honestly don't care. I like the idea that I teach french as well.

wilwarin538
09-15-2005, 07:33 PM
Another update:

Anguirel-villainous outlaw and poacher, one of the Gaurwaith
Azealia of Willowbottom
Boromir88- Cafe owner
Cailěn
Celuien- the town eccentric best known for her vast collection of pet frogs.
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant
Eonwe-boondock saint
Gil-Galad-Escape Artist / Womanizer
Glirdan-teacher
Kitanna-that crazy cat lady
Kuruharan-theater owner/traveling faire operator
Lalaith-tumbling acrobat and dancing girl at Kuruharan's fair
Márcolië Lamen-expert on Gadian Literature
The Perky Ent-experimenting food merchant(spice racks and all)
the phantom- town drunk
WaynetheGoblin- rich man, owns a big mansion

Those who haven't given me a role, you have less then 24 hours to do so, or else I'm making one up, and it will be very stupid and embarassing.

the phantom
09-15-2005, 07:41 PM
I will be the village drunk. I own a run-down shack on the edge of town but spend all my time in Boromir88's cafe (at the bar), or in the street in front of the cafe (where I often sleep).

No one knows how I can afford to never work and continually buy drinks. Also, no one knows where I came from (I moved to the village five years ago) and what it is that drives me to desire a constant state of inebriation.

The Perky Ent
09-15-2005, 07:43 PM
That's because you, phantom, are a Ewell. The scourge of Macomb! (Yeah, I'm reading that book at the moment).

Also, I can work at Boromir's cafe, depending on how he wants to run it. Or, I can run a stand. Whichever works best for y'all!

the phantom
09-15-2005, 07:56 PM
I am rather sorry to be missing out on this one as I was looking forward to a pared down game and the cast looks good.
Well, SP, just make sure you get into my game. I'm going to go ahead and stick my foot in the door to mod WW XII or XIII. It will be a pared down game, and I'm sure the cast will be excellent.

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 08:10 PM
Well, SP, just make sure you get into my game. I'm going to go ahead and stick my foot in the door to mod WW XII or XIII. It will be a pared down game, and I'm sure the cast will be excellent.

I know this is WAY early, but I'd like to mod the game after the one phantom does.

Gil-Galad
09-15-2005, 08:19 PM
like i said, i can mod one, i have an idea for a unique WW game... again if anyone wants to hear about it ask me

Glirdan
09-15-2005, 08:25 PM
I got an idea. Why don't you mod WW XII and then I mod WW XXIII? That way you can use your idea in it and then if I like it, I can incorprate it in mine, if no one has any problems with me and phantom modding the two after Holby.

Lalaith
09-16-2005, 02:38 AM
I'll be a tumbling acrobat and dancing girl at Kuruharan's fair...

Boromir88
09-16-2005, 04:56 AM
I will be the village drunk. I own a run-down shack on the edge of town but spend all my time in Boromir88's cafe (at the bar), or in the street in front of the cafe (where I often sleep).
Because I throw you out every night. :p

Those who haven't given me a role, you have less then 24 hours to do so, or else I'm making one up, and it will be very stupid and embarassing.
I can't wait. :D

Cailín
09-16-2005, 05:17 AM
Since I can't think of anything else, I'll be a barmaid at Boromir88's cafe - with a degree in Psychology though :D

When are we starting again? With all the timezone confusion, I don't really get what tomorrow is ^^

Very much looking forward to it!

Kuruharan
09-16-2005, 08:07 AM
I'll be a tumbling acrobat and dancing girl at Kuruharan's fair

Hurry-Hurry-Hurry!!! Get your tickets here!! See the lovely Lalaith perform the mystic dance of the five veils, one handkerchief, and possibly one hangman's noose!

dancing spawn of ungoliant
09-16-2005, 08:30 AM
I got an idea. Why don't you mod WW XII and then I mod WW XXIII? Ahem, assuming that you meant XIII, I think there's already a lengthy list of future mods waiting their turn. :) Here are those who wish to mod a game (hope I didn't miss anyone).

XI = Holby
XII/ XIII = phantom
spawn
Oromin (December/ January)
Glirdan
Gil-Galad



Those who haven't given me a role, you have less then 24 hours to do so, or else I'm making one up, and it will be very stupid and embarassing. Oh, that sounds tempting. I don't mind having a stupid profession but I can think one up myself. I'll be a riksha driver. Thanks.

The Saucepan Man
09-16-2005, 10:16 AM
We know that mods have certain superpowers. Can they see the other recipients of a PM?Admins can. Mods can't. So don't worry, I have had no advantage in this game as a forum Mod (doesn't it show? :rolleyes: ).

As for game mods, the following are pencilled in:

Werewolf XI: Holbytlass
Werewolf XII: the phantom

Having been regular players for longer, I think that dancing spawn and Oromin should have priority to mod the games after that provided that they are able to. That gives us more than enough games to be getting on with for the time being.

Glirdan and Gil, your interest in modding has been noted.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-16-2005, 12:28 PM
Also, seeing how popular the game still is, we should maybe introduce a 2 games-in-a-row maximum for players. Anyone else think this might be a good idea?

Mithalwen
09-16-2005, 12:45 PM
Or maybe run games concurrently? There is a lot of interest in both playing and moderating. Maybe there should be an occasional game for novices only - it does seem that the very experienced players can dominate (until they are killed for being too dangerous) . I don't think there should be permanent divisions but if there were enough players for 2 games at a time it might be interesting and helpful to let the beginners and novices have a game to themselves while those who played more got a game where they won't be automatic choices for werewolves night 1...

mormegil
09-16-2005, 12:49 PM
Or maybe run games concurrently? There is a lot of interest in both playing and moderating. Maybe there should be an occasional game for novices only - it does seem that the very experienced players can dominate (until they are killed for being too dangerous) . I don't think there should be permanent divisions but if there were enough players for 2 games at a time it might be interesting and helpful to let the beginners and novices have a game to themselves while those who played more got a game where they won't be automatic choices for werewolves night 1...

I love the idea! I think it would add an interesting element of complexity and yet give those who are a bit green around the collar some good experience.

Anguirel
09-16-2005, 02:15 PM
How sweet!

Werewolf Junior

Werewolves=Werecubs

Seer=Fun Fortune Teller

Ranger=Boy Scout

Hunter=Nice, RSPCA-licensed Drag Hunter who thinks killing foxes is nasty

Simply thrilling...

wilwarin538
09-16-2005, 02:19 PM
Updated list:

Anguirel-villainous outlaw and poacher, one of the Gaurwaith
Azealia of Willowbottom
Boromir88- Cafe owner
Cailěn- barmaid at Boro's cafe, degree in psychology
Celuien- the town eccentric best known for her vast collection of pet frogs.
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant-riksha driver
Eonwe-boondock saint
Gil-Galad-Escape Artist / Womanizer
Glirdan-teacher
Kitanna-that crazy cat lady
Kuruharan-theater owner/traveling faire operator
Lalaith-tumbling acrobat and dancing girl at Kuruharan's fair
Márcolië Lamen-expert on Gadian Literature
The Perky Ent-experimenting food merchant(spice racks and all)
the phantom- town drunk
WaynetheGoblin- rich man, owns a big mansion

Alrighty then. I'm going to send the roles out now. I will put the thread up at 7pmEST tonight and that will signify the beginning of Night 1.

Once you get your roles I would prefer you don't post on this thread to much. Thank you. :D

wilwarin538
09-16-2005, 02:46 PM
Roles have been sent. If I missed someone just PM me. I don't think I did though but just in case. :rolleyes:

Reminder. Make sure to be invisible. I will aslo be making myself invisible. ;)

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-16-2005, 02:47 PM
Mithalwen brings up a most excellent point. Some players are big targets just because of their experience and may never get to live past a couple of days again.

Edit: Should we all stop talking now? I have been taken aback by how quickly this game has started!

Gurthang
09-16-2005, 02:53 PM
Or maybe run games concurrently? There is a lot of interest in both playing and moderating. Maybe there should be an occasional game for novices only - it does seem that the very experienced players can dominate (until they are killed for being too dangerous) . I don't think there should be permanent divisions but if there were enough players for 2 games at a time it might be interesting and helpful to let the beginners and novices have a game to themselves while those who played more got a game where they won't be automatic choices for werewolves night 1...

That's a great idea. Maybe someone could put together a beginner's game in the Novices and Newcomers Forum? With the forum administrators approval, of course. :D Perhaps with a certain maximum time on the downs... say four or five months? That would help a lot of people get experience, and would elminate the possible confusion of having two simultaneous WW games going in Mirth.

Mithalwen brings up a most excellent point. Some players are big targets just because of their experience and may never get to live past a couple of days again.

Yes, I can definitely see that happening. But what can be done?

Glirdan
09-16-2005, 02:57 PM
Or maybe run games concurrently? There is a lot of interest in both playing and moderating. Maybe there should be an occasional game for novices only - it does seem that the very experienced players can dominate (until they are killed for being too dangerous) . I don't think there should be permanent divisions but if there were enough players for 2 games at a time it might be interesting and helpful to let the beginners and novices have a game to themselves while those who played more got a game where they won't be automatic choices for werewolves night 1...

I agree with that. If it's possible, I could mod the first one, but could I still participate in this one?? I'm after all not quite a begginer now. I did after all fool all of you. As if you thought I was the wolf!! Sheez!!! :rolleyes:

The Perky Ent
09-16-2005, 03:34 PM
It's a vaid point. I, personally, don't think it should be in Nocives and Newcommers. Although you'd be a newcommer to the game, I don't think the thread is one that belongs in that forum. It just seems too...myrth. Having multiple games does sound intriguing, though. PM's out the wazoo!

That's just my two cents!

Márcolië Lamen
09-16-2005, 03:39 PM
Having games for novices and experianced is intreging, but at the same time seems like it is forcing. Strategies do include different people of different levels. You can learn more being thrust into it too. So I'm not sure, the idea of having the two different levels seems to make sense, but I'm not sure if it'd work as well as planned.

Having two games going at a time may help with numbers at least though

Glirdan
09-16-2005, 03:42 PM
I personaly think we should start a game for those newcomers who want to play in the WW games, that way, as said before, they get experience for the real thing. I'm volunteering for the possison of mod, only if the Admins don't have a problem with there being a junior version of WW that is. If we have a junior version, it might make the members more interested in playing WW, sooooo...... It's all up to the Admins though..............

Boromir88
09-16-2005, 03:47 PM
It's an admirable proposal, I think it will help out with the growing numbers.

The Saucepan Man
09-16-2005, 06:36 PM
Well, it was always anticipated that we might have two games going at once if the number of people wanting to play was sufficient. Personally, I think that it's a good idea because games are shorter with less players starting and there are therefore less people waiting around for the next one to start. I would suggest 15 players as a max, with 12 around the ideal number.

I've no problem with a game for "beginners", although the boundaries will become less defined over time. But I'm not happy with the idea of players participating in more than one game at the same time. So I would suggest that the first Werewolf junior starts once wilwa's game is over with Glirdan moderating.

Any objections?

The Perky Ent
09-16-2005, 06:41 PM
Sounds good! I'll bring the spices (assuming I survive X)

Glirdan
09-16-2005, 06:44 PM
I'm quite fine with that Saucy. But just to get ready for the thread, are we going to change any of the current rules or roles?

The Saucepan Man
09-16-2005, 07:23 PM
But just to get ready for the thread, are we going to change any of the current rules or roles?That's up to you Glirdan, if you're modding. You need to be careful, though, to maintain the game balance. I'm happy to help you out with suggestions, but I suggest that we wait until the current game is over.

Btw, I will be away from Sunday until Friday 23 September. In the unlikely event that wilwa's game finishes before then, I hereby stake my claim for a place in Werewolf XI (Holby's game).

Normally, recruiting should only start once a game is finished (so please don't let this provoke a flood of applications). I'm only mentioning it now because I don't want to miss out if recruitment is over by the time that I get back.

The Perky Ent
09-16-2005, 07:28 PM
Well...it will probably take around 14 days (or whatever the math is) for the game to end. So...unless we double lynch, and the wolf's for some random reason kill solo, you should be fun. Have fun doing whatever you're doing!

Glirdan
09-16-2005, 07:33 PM
That's up to you Glirdan, if you're modding. You need to be careful, though, to maintain the game balance. I'm happy to help you out with suggestions, but I suggest that we wait until the current game is over.

I gladly accept that offer Saucy. I'd also appreciate any other help to but I agree that we should wait until this one is over.

Well...it will probably take around 14 days (or whatever the math is) for the game to end. So...unless we double lynch, and the wolf's for some random reason kill solo, you should be fun. Have fun doing whatever you're doing!

Two weeks huh? Oh well. I can wait. In the meantime, I'll prepare for the opening of the WW saga (if it lasts long enough to be called a saga).

wilwarin538
09-17-2005, 06:31 AM
Just wondering. If the seer decides to dream of someone and that someone is the cursed villager do I tell the seer that that someone is the cursed villager, or do I just say that that someone is an Ordinary villager? Wasn't sure. :rolleyes:

the guy who be short
09-17-2005, 07:30 AM
The Seer can't see the Curséd.

wilwarin538
09-17-2005, 08:41 AM
Thats what I thought. Thank you. :D

The Perky Ent
09-17-2005, 09:16 AM
Now they're Curséd? Wow. They just be the french inhabitants of tinseltown.

Glirdan
09-17-2005, 09:31 AM
I love the idea of having french!!! I think I'll incorporate that in with my occupation......

Boromir88
09-17-2005, 10:54 AM
Oi, I can't wait much longer. Well, atleast we picked a Saturday to start the first day, so I have College Football to keep me busy until we start. If it was a weekday (when nothing's ever on in the afternoon) I would explode.

And on another note. I work on Sunday from 1-6 (honestly they should declare working on Sunday illegal). So, I will be gone for probably 6-7 hours. Though, Sunday should be Night Phase...correct? So, I shouldn't be effected.

Glirdan
09-17-2005, 11:35 AM
Oi, I can't wait much longer. Well, atleast we picked a Saturday to start the first day, so I have College Football to keep me busy until we start. If it was a weekday (when nothing's ever on in the afternoon) I would explode.

I agree!! Isn't there a way to speed up time!?!?!? I can't wait anymore!!! I'm going crazy!!!!!

Mithalwen
09-17-2005, 12:19 PM
While I do agree that an "open" game may make people raise their game ..they also may also be overwhelmed by very experienced players and just coast... if the big names aren't there they will have to participate more.

And I certainly wasn't suggesting that the rules should change ..or that the roles should be given patronising names. I just think that this is a game where experience does count. I think that games played rather than length of time would be a factor.... Also maybe divided games should be alternated with "open" ones.

If there is a continual demand for space.. the division of parralel games might be "short format" / " long format" . Not everyone can commit to a 20 bod game .

Since moderating is a lot of work, I would emphasise that the moderator should retain control over the kind of game they want to run. But that shouldn't really be affected by whether the game is palyed by tenderfoots or old hands. Mind you I seem to be the only mod who works to the beat of a different drum so maybe I am just talking for myself. A return to Midsommer Mawlin will involve retractable votes and the mythomaniac :D and will not involve Shirriffs..

Glirdan
09-17-2005, 12:24 PM
What I was thinking for it was to start off with the basicis. Have a maz of 15 people minimum of 12. Have 3 wolves, 1 seer, 1 hunter, 1 ranger. I was originally thinking of having only 1 shirriff but as Saucy pointed out to me in a PM, it would be pretty useless. So in addition to the othr roles, have 2 shirriffs and 1 cursed villager. Any other idea's????

Mith, exactly what do you mean by having divided games??

Mithalwen
09-17-2005, 12:41 PM
What I was thinking for it was to start off with the basicis. Have a maz of 15 people minimum of 12. Have 3 wolves, 1 seer, 1 hunter, 1 ranger. I was originally thinking of having only 1 shirriff but as Saucy pointed out to me in a PM, it would be pretty useless. So in addition to the othr roles, have 2 shirriffs and 1 cursed villager. Any other idea's????

Mith, exactly what do you mean by having divided games??


I meant that if 2 games were running at the same time the division did not have to be novices and experienced ... but could be one game with say only 12 people and just werewolfs seer and a big game with wolves, beorning, shirriffs the whole shebang.... just ideas...

Glirdan
09-17-2005, 12:49 PM
I meant that if 2 games were running at the same time the division did not have to be novices and experienced ... but could be one game with say only 12 people and just werewolfs seer and a big game with wolves, beorning, shirriffs the whole shebang.... just ideas...

That's an idea. But if we were to do that, the ones who are in one can't be in the other because it just wouldn't be fair. I think we should make an exception for the mods though because if they're modding, they don't really get a chance to play so.... I like that idea though Mith.

As for today's game, I might not be able to post until tomorrow or late tonight, so don't expect me to come on for awhile.

Mithalwen
09-17-2005, 12:59 PM
[QUOTE=Glirdan]That's an idea. But if we were to do that, the ones who are in one can't be in the other because it just wouldn't be fair. I think we should make an exception for the mods though because if they're modding, they don't really get a chance to play so.... I like that idea though Mith.

QUOTE]

Oh definitely - if people double up it defeats the object of running 2 games. And don't underestimate the time commitment of modding. It can be hard work to come up with good deaths... I had to out myself as a Tolkien fan while modding as part of the explanation why I wanted ideas of really gruesome ways to kill people...

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-17-2005, 01:01 PM
You're kidding, right? Moderators simply cannot play in another game! The very notion is outrageous! :eek:

Seriously.

Glirdan
09-17-2005, 01:04 PM
but could be one game with say only 12 people and just werewolfs seer and a big game with wolves, beorning, shirriffs the whole shebang....

We could do that with the one I'm modding and the one that Holby would be modding. That way, those who didn't get a chance to get in on Holby's game could come and play the one I'm modding and whatever role Holby doesn't include in hers, I could use in mine. So if she doesn't use the cobbler or bear, they could be in mine, or vice versa with the cursed villager and mythomaniac.

You're kidding, right? Moderators simply cannot play in another game! The very notion is outrageous!

Seriously.

Ok, got the point. Mods can't participate in another game.

Boromir88
09-17-2005, 04:13 PM
I forgot that we aren't starting Day 1 until 7 pm (my time). That means Day 1 won't end until 7 pm tomorrow, which will effect me. I work til 6, so should be back before 6:30 to cast in a vote, but it will be very late vote, and you want see anything from me late in the Day.

wilwarin538
09-17-2005, 06:38 PM
I'm just making a little Moddess Goddess note here. When I sad to treat it like a role playing game I didn't acutally mean a role playing game. More use your career in the way you act, do and say things that you would say if you had that career. I didn't mean to describe your movements in third person like a real role plaring game.

I guess I confused everyone with that. :rolleyes: Just play like you would play any other WW game. :D

Boromir88
09-17-2005, 06:40 PM
Wilwarin, you have to admit though, Phantom does a good job of it. Almost so good as to think he actually is a drunk. Anything you want to tell us Phantom? :p

wilwarin538
09-17-2005, 06:42 PM
Yes he does do a good job. :D If you guys want to keep playing it as a RPG then feel free, but you don't have to. It might make this game seem a little different. Its up to the village. ;)

Boromir88
09-17-2005, 06:45 PM
I would rather leave it as a personal choice. phantom does it so well it's amusing, me I just don't see myself doing that.

Though I think it's nice to incorporate everyone's occupation in, that does give it an RPG touch. The first game I played I don't think I did that very well.

Celuien
09-17-2005, 07:38 PM
I think I'll give RP mode a try, just for difference sake, although I'll drop it if there's a consensus that things are getting too confused. :)

Most impressive, phantom.

Kuruharan
09-17-2005, 07:43 PM
It might make for an interesting switch. However, I imagine the RPG fluff will get dropped pretty quick when the blood really starts flowing.

By the way, aren't we all supposed to not be posting in this thread?

Kitanna
09-17-2005, 07:50 PM
I know we're not supposed to be posting here, but I kind of like this RP stuff instead of the usual. Though it probably won't last very long.

The Saucepan Man
09-17-2005, 08:19 PM
By the way, aren't we all supposed to not be posting in this thread?Yes. :rolleyes:

wilwarin538
09-18-2005, 06:49 AM
I believe it already hasn't been lasting long. :rolleyes: Which I kinda prefer, the RPG confused me a little.

And yes, you shouldn't be posting here. :p

wilwarin538
09-18-2005, 12:25 PM
I just noticed Zali hasn't been on since the 12 so I'm thinking she's gone somewhere and forgotten she signed up. I also have a feeling you guys are going to want to lynch her for that. :rolleyes: I think you should probably give her an extra Day and if she still hasn't signed on I'll have someone replace her in the game.

Thank you.

Kuruharan
09-18-2005, 12:40 PM
...to say that I strongly object to the idea of somebody being brought in as a replacement player now that the game has started. If Zali is lynched for non-participation so be it, but there should not be anybody new brought in at this stage in the game.

Mithalwen
09-18-2005, 12:47 PM
Did my bringing Gil back from the dead to replace Sophia create a precedent? Sometimes an omnipotent moddess goddess has to do what an omnipotent moddess goddess has to do..... :p

Glirdan
09-18-2005, 12:48 PM
I agree with Kuru on this. We shouldn't bring someone in to replace her this far in the game.

Gil-Galad
09-18-2005, 01:03 PM
i think we should, but only at first ask the people that dropped out if they want in

Kuruharan
09-18-2005, 01:04 PM
Did my bringing Gil back from the dead to replace Sophia create a precedent? Sometimes an omnipotent moddess goddess has to do what an omnipotent moddess goddess has to do

*cough* Some of us may have thought that was a bit "questionable."

I’m of the opinion that the mod is there solely to facilitate the amusement of the players and should thus keep as far out of the way as possible once the playing has started. I don’t think they should be making game altering decisions without it being clearly stated in the rules beforehand. In this case there was no mention made of replacement players.

Anyway, I’m going to quit being a hypocrite and stop posting on this thread. ;)

Mithalwen
09-18-2005, 01:06 PM
I am slightly playing devil's advocate here but having had to face such crises in my own game it may be the lesser of two evils. Use your imagination...... :cool:

Mithalwen
09-18-2005, 01:55 PM
*cough* Some of us may have thought that was a bit "questionable."

I’m of the opinion that the mod is there solely to facilitate the amusement of the players and should thus keep as far out of the way as possible once the playing has started. I don’t think they should be making game altering decisions without it being clearly stated in the rules beforehand. In this case there was no mention made of replacement players.

Anyway, I’m going to quit being a hypocrite and stop posting on this thread. ;)

It was not an easy decision andin the end it did not make any difference. However my attitude was that the players were there to facilitate my amusement - which they agreed to when they signed up- which made my conscience clearer. So all difficult decisions were decided on the basis of "what is most interesting for me?". So much easier to please one person than 12....

wilwarin538
09-18-2005, 04:14 PM
Alright then she won't be replaced. If she doesn't post at all in the next Day then she will be lynched along with whoever the village decides on, just like I said in the rules.

Is that better?

Don't answer that. :rolleyes: You guys shouldn't be posting on this thread anyway.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
09-18-2005, 05:52 PM
Oh dear! I have been unable to get here for a while, and I come back to find that I am a member of the Werewolf game!! I had mentioned that I would like to be a part of it, but as it was while the previous game was still going, I thought I would have to post again to sign up. Forgive me please, fellow villagers. I am so embarrassed. :o

Thanks for not lynching me so far, but I still have a night to survive before I get too excited. :p

See you during the Day.

the guy who be short
09-19-2005, 10:54 AM
The easiest thing to do would be to kill non-participants. It's easier that way, they get kicked out and can't cause any more confusion in the village. It worked fine in my game.

Glirdan
09-19-2005, 07:10 PM
Not that it's going to matter, I thought I'd explain my absence for a few hours. I started bowling yesterday and it starts at 3:30. By the time I was done, it was about 5:45 and I had to eat when I got home and then my parents didn't let me go on the computer until 7. So.......

Anyway, I'm starting to plan the WW Junior game, if anybody has any suggestions for it, I'd love to hear it, but PM them to me because were not suppsed to post on this thread.........

Captain Grishnahk
09-19-2005, 08:29 PM
This Game sounds like a lot of fun, but sadly every one on this site hates me ( :p )
Perky Ent: Good poems in the Evil Caves of Bad, but the Barrow Wight shut us up... :confused: :D

-The Captain

Anguirel
09-20-2005, 06:48 AM
Leave of absence from 8:00 am on Wednesday 21st to 18:30 (6:30) pm on Thursday 21st, GMT. Sudden and unavoidable English trip. Hope I don't miss too much crucial.

wilwarin538
09-25-2005, 06:33 AM
A message to all the current WW players. I said in the game thread that Alcarillo will be covering for me on Monday, but I changed my mind. I will be working till 7pm EST monday, right when I need to post the death. But it looks like it could possibly be the last day of the game, so I would really like to be the one that posts it. So eather you will see the death before 4pm EST , if all the votes have been cast by then. Or you won't see it till about 7:30pm EST. All depends on when all the votes are in.

Hope this doesn't cause to many problems. ;)

mormegil
09-27-2005, 03:07 PM
So now that the current game is over are we starting recruitment for Holby's game? I would like to be in if I may. Also are we going to be doing two games at once as discussed? I am in favor of a novice game and a veteran game.

The Perky Ent
09-27-2005, 03:13 PM
Aye, count me in as well. I was ripped from the last game too soon. Two games sound good. Holby and Glirdan?

Glirdan
09-27-2005, 03:14 PM
We are indeed morm. I just need a bit of time to plan a few things. I'll have a new thread "Tol-in-Gaurhoth Junior" starting as soon as possible, where everyone who is a beginner or wasn't able to make it into Holby's game is welcome.

wilwarin538
09-27-2005, 03:15 PM
I agree, the novice/veteran thing sounds good.

About me signing up for a game. I will be one of those who would gladly step aside for someone else. Though if there is a novice game there shouldn't be a need for that, just wanted to sound like a really nice person. :p Consider me signed up.

Even though my mom wants me to consintrate on homework, I can't resist another game. :D

The Perky Ent
09-27-2005, 03:17 PM
Oh, and don't forget! Now that the game's over, feel free to turn your user hiding off (unless you prefer to keep it on). Personally, I find it freaky when there's 40 users on, and I can only see 14 :smokin:

Rune Son of Bjarne
09-27-2005, 03:19 PM
novice ! Thats Me ! ! !

This is a thing i have wanted to try ever sice i died.

please signe me up.

Formendacil
09-27-2005, 03:42 PM
On the assumption that WWX actually IS done (I'm take your word, Mormegil), I'd like to put my name down as a player for WWXI.

Not the Junior Version.

I've not played, but I'd rather go in with the experienced ones and get slaughtered. Besides, I think I can hold my own well enough...

Holbytlass
09-27-2005, 03:49 PM
I see Glirdan has werewolf junior admin thread up, so please sign up on that one to avoid confusion. Thanks.

I am wanting WWXI to be a simple game as well, 3 wolves, seer, hunter, ranger and cursed with about 15 players.

So far:
Mormegil
Perky Ent
Formendacil
Wilwarin
Saucepan Man
Eomer
Shelob
Arcticstorm
WaynetheGoblin

Formendacil
09-27-2005, 03:52 PM
I am wanting WWXI to be a simple game as well, 3 wolves, seer, hunter, ranger and cursed with about 15 players.

Beautiful!

Exactly the sort of game I want to play. My timing is perfect!

The Perky Ent
09-27-2005, 03:54 PM
Well...I don't know the best way to phrase this, so I'll just come out with it. I'd like to mod one of the games in the future. I'm not saying anything like "I'm gonna mod WWXII" or anything like that, but I realize there's a line, and I wanna put my name in the basket. Maybe even a junoir game. Just saying so now in case I miss the opportunity :D

WaynetheGoblin
09-27-2005, 04:17 PM
I would like to play this one. Ill be the baby sitter.

Holbytlass
09-27-2005, 04:34 PM
We shall start this Friday at 8:00 p.m. (EDT), (12:00a.m.-GMT). The 7:00-7:30-ish hour seemed to work for the majority of the players but that's when I'm putting my wee ones to bed.
I'm going to start with DAY-phase, when I send out secret roles to the players, the seer can put in a dream request, as long as it is before the start of the game.
I think that's it for now, any major objections or concerns?

Edit: Oh yea, if you would, please, add your gender when posting your occupation EVEN IF I know your gender others may not AND even if it is painfully obvious (ie: Holbytlass, SaucepanMan, TheGuywho be Short).

arcticstorm
09-27-2005, 04:34 PM
Put me on the list for this one as well

Shelob
09-27-2005, 04:43 PM
Count me in please. If we're giving village-non-secret roles I'd like to be the town's official pebble painter.

And 8 works fine...

Thanks

(didn't see your edit Holby, I'm a girl)

mormegil
09-27-2005, 04:49 PM
I'll get an actual profession of the time

Blacksmith/weapon maker

I'm a male

Gil-Galad
09-27-2005, 04:52 PM
make moi a...uh...unemployed...

Alcarillo
09-27-2005, 04:54 PM
Is there room for me to join? I can step out if there are others who want to play, or if the times conflict with my schedule.

I am a male, and I'll think of an occupation later.

The Saucepan Man
09-27-2005, 05:06 PM
Yep, I'm in.

I'm a Lumberjack. A great bear of a man with a bushy beard, a hearty laugh and a thirst for beer at the end of a hard day's tree felling. :smokin:

Oh, and I'm male (although I wish I'd been a girlie just like my dear papa ;) ).

Holby, any chance of starting earlier? It's just that I'm away again for a few days in mid-October and I want to be sure that the game will be finished then.

And how does the first phase being a Day work? Will you start the game with your death? And, if the Seer gets to dream before the game starts, will the Wolves get a chance to swap PMs?

Shelob
09-27-2005, 05:14 PM
And how does the first phase being a Day work? Will you start the game with your death? And, if the Seer gets to dream before the game starts, will the Wolves get a chance to swap PMs?

If I were to guess I assume she means she'll send out roles and we'll have something along the lines of a mini-night...a period of time before the DAY begins but one which isn't long enough to really count as a NIGHT. Just a guess though, it makes the most sense since we don't really need a full first NIGHT, just enough for the seer to dream and the wolves to get acquainted.

The Perky Ent
09-27-2005, 05:14 PM
The whole EST thing doesn't seem to work for me on my computer. I'm in central time zone, but it always show up as either mountain or eastern. But i'm not complaining about the time for posting deadlines, just about how my computer hates me :D

I'm a he, and I'll be the town's Pipeweed salesman! :smokin: (You're going to see that icon a lot :D)

AbercrombieOfRohan
09-27-2005, 05:18 PM
I'd like to play. I'm not so much of a newb, because of played before (just not on this site and not a competitive as this). Hmm... an occupation...I'll think of one soon.

Sorry, didn't see your post Holby, I'm a girl.

Márcolië Lamen
09-27-2005, 05:24 PM
If there is room I'd like to play again, but if there's not I'll drop out since I was in this past game.

I'm female.

And for a role I'd like to be the village math book editer (to make sure they know the alphabet ;))

wilwarin538
09-27-2005, 05:31 PM
Oooh occupation. I will be the town Drawer, if that's a word. I draw, not paint, things in the town. I am a he. :smokin:

Got ya! haha I'm a she.

Or am I? :p

So ya I've lost my precious little mind. :D

The Saucepan Man
09-27-2005, 05:39 PM
And there was me thinking we could use you to store our clothes, wilwa. :p ;)

Azaelia of Willowbottom
09-27-2005, 05:39 PM
If there's room for me in WWXI, please sign me up!

If I am in this game, I would like to be a grass basket-maker. Baskets are very important, you know, even if they are grass!

If there's not enough room for me, don't worry about it. I can always join in the next round.

I think it's fairly evident from my name that I'm a she, but since everyone else is clarifying their gender, I might as well. :)

Gil-Galad
09-27-2005, 05:42 PM
instead of unemployed, i shall be Gonzalo the Llama Paladin Conqueror of distant lands

wilwarin538
09-27-2005, 05:44 PM
And there was me thinking we could use you to store our clothes, wilwa.

That could work to. ;) Is there any other way of putting it? I don't want to be an artist, cause that usually implies painting, and I can't paint. I can only draw. :p

The Saucepan Man
09-27-2005, 05:48 PM
Holby, I understand that WaynetheGoblin will be playing in the Werewolf Jr game, so you can take him off your list.

The Perky Ent
09-27-2005, 06:05 PM
That could work to. ;) Is there any other way of putting it? I don't want to be an artist, cause that usually implies painting, and I can't paint. I can only draw. :p

Um...sketcher?

wilwarin538
09-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Sure.

I'm the town sketcher. :p

Shelob
09-27-2005, 06:10 PM
Except that now I'll think of you as "Good Ol' Sketchy Wilwa"...in a good way though, I promise :p

wilwarin538
09-27-2005, 06:16 PM
Ya well I'll always think of you as "Pebbly Shebly" so ha! :p

Shelob
09-27-2005, 06:19 PM
HaHa! I love it.

Boromir88
09-27-2005, 06:19 PM
If no first-timer wants to come in, you can count me in for the next one...I think I'm addicted.

Profession will be deprogrammer (aka, memory eraser).

Edit: On another note, I believe the following WW games all have mods. But, if you're looking for a mod for the next Junior game, I will be more than glad to step up.

Formendacil
09-27-2005, 07:12 PM
We shall start this Friday at 8:00 p.m. (EDT), (12:00a.m.-GMT). The 7:00-7:30-ish hour seemed to work for the majority of the players but that's when I'm putting my wee ones to bed.
I'm going to start with DAY-phase, when I send out secret roles to the players, the seer can put in a dream request, as long as it is before the start of the game.
I think that's it for now, any major objections or concerns?

Edit: Oh yea, if you would, please, add your gender when posting your occupation EVEN IF I know your gender others may not AND even if it is painfully obvious (ie: Holbytlass, SaucepanMan, TheGuywho be Short).

Ack!

So soon? I'll be gone Friday morning (my time), until Sunday afternoon (again, my time).

HOPEFULLY, that means I should only miss Day 1 and Night 1... but I really wish you'd start... say 2 days later...

If you're dead set on starting then, and being unable to post those two days means I'm out... then I guess I'm out. Otherwise, I should be able to post each and every day- probably to the nauseation of those reading.

If possible, I'd like to stay in, as this game sounds about perfect, player and roles-wise, but Holbytlass, you're the mod, so it's up to you...

Holbytlass
09-27-2005, 07:50 PM
I am moving up the start of the game to Thursday (same time). Formendacil, I want you to stay in the game. Everyone at some point misses a day of a game and I don't think this will jeopardize anything. Just remember to put a post in this thread when the time comes. Anyone doesn't like it, then kill me! :p :D

And how does the first phase being a Day work? Will you start the game with your death? And, if the Seer gets to dream before the game starts, will the Wolves get a chance to swap PMs?
By tomorrow evening I will P.M. everyone their secret roles, seer puts in a dream request, and wolves will hob-nob and strategize. When game begins, first post will be the rules and such followed immediately (or as fast as I can type) by the opening narration with my death.

Players thus far:

Mormegil(M)-blacksmith specializing in weaponry
The Perky Ent(M)-pipeweed pusher, I mean salesman
Formendacil
Wilwarin(F)-sketchydrawer
TheSaucepanMan(M)-big beefy lumberjack
EomeroftheRohirrim
Shelob(F)-official pebble painter
ArcticStorm
Gil-Galad(M)-former bum now employed Gonzalo the Llama Paladin Conqueror of distant lands
Alcarillo(?)-silversmith
AbercrombieofRohan(?)-anchoress
Marcolie Lamen(F)-Math book editor
AzaeliaofWillowbottom(F)-grassbasket maker
Boromir88(M)-brain unwasher (deprogrammer)

mormegil
09-27-2005, 08:16 PM
Just a reminder that there is another game being recruited for. It's called Tol-in-Gaurhoth junior and here is a link (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=417151#post417151) It is being modded by Glirdan and I think it will be rather fun for those who have little to no experience to get some experience.

The Saucepan Man
09-27-2005, 08:19 PM
Formendacil, if the game starts Thursday evening, you'll be around for the start of Day 1, miss Night 1 and then be back towards the end of Day 2, which I don't see as a problem at all.

Alcarillo
09-27-2005, 08:21 PM
I have decided upon my career! I shall be a silversmith.

AbercrombieOfRohan
09-27-2005, 08:46 PM
I'd like to be the town anchoress, if I may.

Formendacil
09-27-2005, 10:47 PM
Formendacil, if the game starts Thursday evening, you'll be around for the start of Day 1, miss Night 1 and then be back towards the end of Day 2, which I don't see as a problem at all.

Noted.

And, as our Mod so graciously has permitted me a day or two's grace, then I most eager to remain in the game.

And although I am not a huge fan of the RP element, if you need a handle for me, you may call me:

"The Newspaper Editor-in-Chief Emeritus, Ph.D" (or just "the editor") :smokin:

Cailín
09-28-2005, 01:04 AM
I'd love to play in Holby's game, if there's still room left for another player... Otherwise, I'll sit this one out.

I'm a she by the way, and to make that painfully obvious I'll be a dramatic soprano.

If I can still play, of course. ;)

dancing spawn of ungoliant
09-28-2005, 01:29 AM
Is there still room? I'd like to play but if it's fully booked I don't mind sitting this one out.

EDIT: If it's probable that the game won't be finished before 10th October, just ignore this post.

The Saucepan Man
09-28-2005, 03:27 AM
I believe that Cailin has claimed the final Werewolf XI place.

But, as morm noted, there is still ample room in Glirdan's Werewolf Jr game. So, if anyone who is not signed up here wants to play, feel free to sign up for that one. You don't have to be a novice.

Holbytlass
09-28-2005, 04:35 AM
Players:

Mormegil(M)-blacksmith specializing in weaponry
The Perky Ent(M)-pipeweed pusher, I mean salesman
Formendacil(M)-The Newspaper Editor-in-Chief Emeritus, Ph.D
Wilwarin(F)-sketchydrawer
TheSaucepanMan(M)-big beefy lumberjack
EomeroftheRohirrim(M)-Purveyor of Mystical Oddments
Shelob(F)-official pebble painter
ArcticStorm(M)-preacher
Gil-Galad(M)-Gonzalo the Llama Paladin Conqueror of distant lands
Alcarillo(M)-silversmith
AbercrombieofRohan(F)-anchoress
Marcolie Lamen(F)-Math book editor
AzaeliaofWillowbottom(F)-grassbasket maker
Boromir88(M)-brain unwasher (deprogrammer)
Cailin(F)-dramatic soprano

~Don't forget to get in invisible mode by game time
~A couple things up for debate, mass lynchings and retractable votes. Personally, I'd go with no mass lynchings and retractable votes but I'll allow for majority rule.

Shelob
09-28-2005, 04:48 AM
For myself, I prefer no mass-lynchings and non-retractable votes...but like you if people prefer elsewise I'll go with that...

For my friend, Abercrombie's female...as for "anchoress" though, she has to verify this, but I'm guessing she went to dictionary.com (like I just did) and looked for cool words eventually getting that
Anchoress=A woman who has retired into seclusion for religious reasons.
it's the sort of thing she'd do, and it would mean her avatar kinda matched...

The Saucepan Man
09-28-2005, 04:50 AM
I vote for mass lynchings. :D

But I know that they are not to everyone's taste. If we are not to have mass lynchings, then we need to know what will happen in the event that two or more Villagers are tied on votes at the end of the Day. I always liked the idea that the first one voted for then gets lynched, as it adds an extra tactical element to voting.

Oh, and I greatly favour non-retractable votes.

wilwarin538
09-28-2005, 05:02 AM
Definetely non-retractable votes. I think it gives more fun to the game.

I don't mind mass lynchings when I'm playing. I just didn't want to write them or have my game end really soon. :p

AbercrombieOfRohan
09-28-2005, 05:35 AM
Sorry Holby, guess you didn't catch my edit... I'm female, as Shelob said.

As for an "anchoress" it is a female who goes into seclusion for religious reasons. And, no Shelob, I didn't just poke around on Dictionary.com, I went to Google...

Holbytlass
09-28-2005, 05:55 AM
(SHELOB)Anchoress=A woman who has retired into seclusion for religious reasons.
it's the sort of thing she'd do, and it would mean her avatar kinda matched...

Duly noted and right gender put in.....LOL! I thought Abercrombie's avatar was lead singer to Led Zeppelin! (It's too early, I can't remember his name).

(SpM)I always liked the idea that the first one voted for then gets lynched,(in a tie)

I like that idea, if non-mass lynchings is chosen than that's what will happen in a tie.

Lhunardawen
09-28-2005, 06:03 AM
Oh dear, I missed it. :(

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-28-2005, 06:28 AM
The sheer joy of discovering that Saucepan Man will be playing in the same game as I (has it really taken this long?) has been slightly dampened by Lhuna's late arrival. Ah, what frenzy can Werewolf recruitment truly entail!

I'll be the down-on-his-luck seller of trinkets, gems, snake-oil and other such bits and pieces. You can call me the Purveyor of Mystical Oddments.

Feanor of the Peredhil
09-28-2005, 06:34 AM
How depressing... and I was going to play in this one too. Somebody poke me when the next recruitment comes along.

Lhunardawen
09-28-2005, 06:39 AM
My fault, actually, for not having been in the Downs for too long. I didn't even know that X was already over! :rolleyes:

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-28-2005, 06:40 AM
I PM'd Holby about players playing in several games in a row. I think maybe we can work out something a little fairer so that everyone gets a chance to play.

Does that seem reasonable?

Lhunardawen
09-28-2005, 06:42 AM
Now that I think of it, wouldn't that be unfair to the others? After all, they signed up first...

arcticstorm
09-28-2005, 06:45 AM
occupation: historian who has been specializing in the history of this area.

I favor non-retractable votes, and mass liynchings are ok with me one way or the other

Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-28-2005, 06:47 AM
Very true. Either way, it's slightly unfair on someone.

I think there should probably be a limit on how many successive games individuals can play, though.

Or maybe we could have three games.

Or maybe I could just stop talking. :rolleyes: ;)

Lhunardawen
09-28-2005, 06:53 AM
I think there should probably be a limit on how many successive games individuals can play, though. There goes a new topic of debate... :D

mormegil
09-28-2005, 06:59 AM
For what it matters I'm slightly in favor of having mass lynching but more in favor of having non-retractable votes.

As a personal rule I try to limit myself to two games in a row then sitting out at least one. The wife appreciates me sitting out on occasion too ;)