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Kath
11-22-2005, 05:05 PM
Then it's Gil next. Or Anguirel if Gil can't do it.

wilwarin538
11-22-2005, 05:07 PM
Well, I know I said that I couldn't play anymore games, but it turns out I was wrong. The last game actually didn't take up to much of my time, it worked out pretty well. Plus the next month is going to be slow for me at school, so I'll have more time to play. :D

Sing me up please! :D

Lhunardawen
11-22-2005, 06:31 PM
To whoever's modding next, please count me in! :)

Anguirel
11-23-2005, 01:14 AM
If Gil doesn't turn up...I might have to postpone myself. I was expecting a rather longer respite, planning to start in about three weeks, on December 16th or thereabouts...

Lhunardawen
11-23-2005, 02:51 AM
So if Gil doesn't turn up, morm will be playing in a game he will also be modding... :D

The Saucepan Man
11-23-2005, 04:19 AM
You know, I think that these mod-in-waiting lists are getting to be more trouble than they are worth.

I say that we just revert to the system where the mod for the next game puts themselves forward when the previous game has finished, in the same way that people sign up to play.

So, the next person who has a few games under their belt, who has not modded before and who is keen to do so gets to mod the next game.

Holbytlass
11-23-2005, 08:36 AM
It's been soo long, SIGN ME UP!!

The Saucepan Man
11-23-2005, 10:21 AM
Lots of player sign-ups, but we remain modless.

Anyone interested?

littlemanpoet
11-23-2005, 10:42 AM
Lots of player sign-ups, but we remain modless.

Anyone interested?How about the one who's highest on the list and shows up by Dec. 1, gets to do it?

Anguirel
11-23-2005, 11:22 AM
I'm tempted to jump into the breach, but I really would rather save my powder till a more prudent date, if only to wait for the bad karma from WWXIII to evaporate...mormegil? You up for this?

Fordim Hedgethistle
11-23-2005, 11:26 AM
It's been soo long, SIGN ME UP!!

I've got a score to settle with Holby....

I'm in.

The Saucepan Man
11-23-2005, 11:52 AM
How about the one who's highest on the list and shows up by Dec. 1, gets to do it?Personally, I would rather get going as soon as possible, but I understand that some of you colonials ( :p ;) ) would prefer to wait until some odd ceremony involving the consumption of large amounts of turkey is over.

Nevertheless, I would prefer to have the next game's mod in place as soon as possible so that the usual pre-game discussions etc can get underway. I regard the mod-in-waiting list as obsolete now, other than as an indication of those who are interested in modding.

So, as I said, as far as I am concerned, the next volunteer with a few games under their belt who wants to mod and has not done so before gets to mod the next game.

Alcarillo
11-23-2005, 12:11 PM
I would like to mod, but I'm still not sure for certain if my schedule will allow it. I know on the tenth I'll need a backup mod, but besides that I think I'll be free. I'll check in later today just to confirm I can. Just think of me now as an "unofficial" mod.

And I can always wait for the next game if somebody else really wants to mod this one.

Holbytlass
11-23-2005, 03:19 PM
Personally, I would rather get going as soon as possible, but I understand that some of you colonials would prefer to wait until some odd ceremony involving the consumption of large amounts of turkey is over.
I agree, we can talk shop and turkey (that's just tomorrow), it usually takes a few days to get things squared away.


I've got a score to settle with Holby....
*gulp* and what score would that be?

Fordim Hedgethistle
11-23-2005, 03:31 PM
*gulp* and what score would that be?

How quickly they pretend to forget (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=392781&postcount=273)...

the phantom
11-23-2005, 06:59 PM
Ah yes, I remember that well. That post of yours that you linked should be given a spot in the werewolf hall of fame, Fordim. I love it.

Fordim Hedgethistle
11-23-2005, 09:47 PM
Ah yes, I remember that well. That post of yours that you linked should be given a spot in the werewolf hall of fame, Fordim. I love it.

Hall of Shame you should say. I had it! I HAD IT, I HAD IT, I HAD IT!!! I was that close to leading the villagers to a victory over the werewolves in a 'straight' game and I let myself lose sight of the ball in the very last posts of the game. Grrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

The wolves had best watch out this time....

Or maybe the villagers....

Who knows.....?

Alcarillo
11-24-2005, 12:27 AM
I have checked my schedule and after much thought I have decided that I should be able to mod this werewolf game. I would certainly love to, if nobody else will.

Lhunardawen
11-24-2005, 12:58 AM
Hall of Shame you should say. I had it! I HAD IT, I HAD IT, I HAD IT!!! I was that close to leading the villagers to a victory over the werewolves in a 'straight' game and I let myself lose sight of the ball in the very last posts of the game. Grrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!*pats at the back* I know very well how you feel...


I have checked my schedule and after much thought I have decided that I should be able to mod this werewolf game. I would certainly love to, if nobody else will.Well, since you declared your willingness and avilability first, I guess everyone will agree that the mod god throne is now rightfully yours. :)

And maybe you could now lay your terms on the table...?

The Saucepan Man
11-24-2005, 03:23 AM
Alcarillo, the game's all yours to mod. :)

The players currently signed up are:

The Saucepan Man
Mormegil
Formendacil
Kath
Dancing spawn of ungoliant
WaynetheGoblin
Rune Son of Bjarne
Gurthang
Aiwendil
Folwren
Boromir88
Wilwarin538
Lhunardawen
Holbytlass
Fordim Hedgethistle

An impressive list! Good to see Aiwendil dipping his toe in wolvish waters for the first time, and also a return to the game after too long for Fordim and Lhuna.

Alcarillo, there are 15 players already signed up. What's your player limit? Also, what roles 'n rules do you propose implementing and when do you plan on starting? I believe that some of the above can't play unless we wait until 3 December.

Holbytlass
11-24-2005, 06:49 AM
How quickly they pretend to forget...
Oh....yea, that score. As of now I shall get the brunt since Shelob and Oddwen aren't here, but all I can say is GAME ON!!!
This is a good looking village, and fresh blood. I don't care when we start.

wilwarin538
11-24-2005, 07:42 AM
An impressive list!

You can say that again. :p This will definetely be a very interesting game. ;)

I don't care when we start, I'm willing to wait till December 3rd.

Fordim Hedgethistle
11-24-2005, 10:12 AM
A 3 December start is fine for me, for what it's worth.

If I could make a humble request to our fearless mod for as 'straight' a game of WW as possible...? One of the reasons it has been so long since I played is that I'm not so sure about all these Beornings, Shirrifs, Rangers, Whatnots and Whoozits -- seems to me like too many moving parts. As difficult as it may be for the villagers, I much prefer to have Wolves, Villagers, one Seer, one Hunter and one Cursed.

But I have not actually played in any of the games with these fancy-schmancy figures so I do not speak from direct experience -- maybe the games are more interesting for the participants...

Formendacil
11-24-2005, 12:41 PM
A 3 December start is fine for me, for what it's worth.

If I could make a humble request to our fearless mod for as 'straight' a game of WW as possible...? One of the reasons it has been so long since I played is that I'm not so sure about all these Beornings, Shirrifs, Rangers, Whatnots and Whoozits -- seems to me like too many moving parts. As difficult as it may be for the villagers, I much prefer to have Wolves, Villagers, one Seer, one Hunter and one Cursed.

But I have not actually played in any of the games with these fancy-schmancy figures so I do not speak from direct experience -- maybe the games are more interesting for the participants...

I'm with Master Fordhim on this particular request.

Of course, as Mod, you have the option to do things as you see fit, but I like a basic game. It means more general bandwaggoning and fun, and less crazy strategize/worrying.

But, as Mod, it's your pick.

Go nuts.

Mithalwen
11-24-2005, 02:25 PM
Lots of player sign-ups, but we remain modless.

Anyone interested?

Ironically at WWJ we have many mods and few players.....

Alcarillo
11-24-2005, 11:36 PM
I will close recruitment and stick with the 15 players we have now.

Some Basic Rules
Non-retractable votes
Up to two multi-lynched at once

I'm in the minority: I like multiple lynchings; I think they're exciting. But as not to anger rest of you, I have set a maximum of two-at-a-time.

Possible Roles (that will almost certainly be changed)
3 werewolves
2 sherrifs (Elendili)
1 seer
1 ranger
1 hunter
1 cobbler (agent of Sauron/Pharazon)
And the rest ordinary villagers.

But this is obviously too many gifteds for a villages of 15. I'm rather set on sherrifs and a cobbler, because they so easily can be given Numenorean roles, and I've had a first-post-of-the-game outlined in my mind for a while now that fits perfectly an Elendili vs King's agents scenario. Perhaps we can get rid of our ranger and hunter? What do you guys think?

The Village
The village is on the northernmost tip of Numenor during the reign of Ar-Pharazon, so if you pick occupations within the village they should be appropriate for the time and place. No dentists, TV repairmen, plumbers, etc. This is just a little village in the middle of nowhere.

mormegil
11-25-2005, 01:26 AM
Sounds good but I would say keep either the hunter or ranger. Probably the hunter as it doesn't necissarily tip the scales in the favor of the innocents, is a bit of a wild card.

As far as profession goes, I'll be a repairman specializing in ships and docks.

Lhunardawen
11-25-2005, 01:36 AM
An impressive list! Good to see Aiwendil dipping his toe in wolvish waters for the first time, and also a return to the game after too long for Fordim and Lhuna. I agree, except for the very last thing mentioned. But then again, I played a negligible character in Werewolf XII...so, I completely agree. :D

I'm looking forward to playing for the first time with a lot of people, and playing again with the rest.


But this is obviously too many gifteds for a villages of 15.Well, it actually depends on how you want the sheriffs to be. In VI, the game was turned in favor of the villagers thanks in part to the sheriffs' revelation of themselves. But in VII, with the rule that they can't reveal themselves until one dies, they weren't really considered gifted much, no offense to wilwa and Enca. At least that's how I perceived it.

If it comes to the point of having to remove roles, I guess the Hunter can be discarded...

Numenor, huh? Interesting. By the way, when do you intend to start the game? Will it be on the 3rd of December as requested?

The Saucepan Man
11-25-2005, 03:29 AM
I would be sad to see the exclusion of either the Ranger or the Hunter, since both roles have the potential to make for interesting games and have certainly enhanced recent games. On the other hand, I am not a great fan of Shirriffs who, it seems to me, have less potential to add to the game's interest. And while allowing them to reveal at any time probably makes them too powerful, stipulating that they can only reveal once one of them has died has always struck me as rather illogical, and that troubles me.

Why not simply label both the Hunter and the Ranger as Elendili, albeit ones who do not know each other's identity?

Glad to see the return of the Cobbler, though. :smokin:

Kath
11-25-2005, 03:34 AM
The Shirrifs are only real of any use when they're allowed to reveal themselves, but that then gives the villagers too much of an advantage. I wouldn't mind seeing them excluded but it's your game Alcarillo!

What date are we starting by the way?

WaynetheGoblin
11-25-2005, 06:46 AM
I dont really care when it starts or what the rolls are I just whant to play.

Holbytlass
11-25-2005, 06:56 AM
I share SpM's view, leave out shirrifs, keep hunter/ranger and the cobbler is always interesting, keep it.

Formendacil
11-25-2005, 12:53 PM
I've never played with Shirriffs, so I'm a bit curious to see them in play, but I agree that if they remain, then either the Ranger or the Hunter ought to go, and I agree with Morm that it should be the Ranger that is kicked out, since the Ranger, like the Shirriffs, is a role that definitely benefits only villagers, whereas the Hunter can be a two-edged sword.

For my occupation I wish to be a Middle-Earth born Numenorean mariner, native to Pelargir, moved back to the Old Country to push paper. (Aka. Disgruntled Office Clerk.)

Sounds intriguing, the location and all that, by the way.

Kuruharan
11-25-2005, 03:24 PM
Before everyone goes overboard with the "let's get rid of anything that might only benefit the villagers" kick, let me remind you that the reason why (specifically the sheriffs) were brought in to begin with is that the villagers suffered a string of crushing and unmitigated defeats.

True, the villagers are winning some now, but let's keep an open mind about all this. We don't want to drift back into a series of uninterrupted slaughters again. That would be boring.

Aiwendil
11-25-2005, 04:09 PM
Though I've never played before, and consequently speak without the benefit of any experience, I tend to agree with The Saucepan Man - the Shirriffs don't strike me as particularly interesting, and limiting when they can reveal themselves is quite illogical. I like the idea of a Hunter and Ranger dubbed Elendili.

Alcarillo
11-25-2005, 06:49 PM
The game will begin on the third of December, as requested. And here's a new list of roles we could use, like the last one, but without sherriffs:

Ranger
Hunter
Seer
Cobbler
3 werewolves
and the rest as ordinary villagers

The Saucepan Man
11-26-2005, 08:43 AM
Sounds good to me. Can't wait. :D

Holbytlass
11-26-2005, 08:57 AM
Fine with me. What is the time going to be, Alcarillo?

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-26-2005, 10:59 AM
but what am I going to spend my time on until then ? :(

Actually it all sounds good ! I am looking foreward to the game. :)


I too would like to know what time, so that I can refuse any work that might hinder me in posting the last hours before the voting ends.

Glirdan
11-26-2005, 11:10 AM
Just to let all those who haven't signed up for this because they didn't want to or whatever other reason, Sleepy is running the next WWJ game so head on over there to sign up.

mormegil
11-26-2005, 11:13 AM
Sounds good Alcarillo and thanks for starting on Dec 3rd. Now is that a night phase or day? The reason I ask is because on the 3rd I have my LSAT which will require a good portion of my day.

Boromir88
11-26-2005, 04:48 PM
Wow, this indeed does look fun, some new faces, and some original werewolvers that I haven't faced before...this should indeed be fun. :D

For my profession, I will be a crab farmer.

Lhunardawen
11-27-2005, 05:25 AM
Echoing Holby here, what time will a phase start? You'll have to consider people like me who live in strange time zones...

No, no, I'm not pressuring you. :D

And I do hope it starts with a night phase.

For my profession, I will be a polite little shepherd girl.

The Saucepan Man
11-27-2005, 11:08 AM
Well, as the village is located on the northernmost tip of Numenor, and we seem to have a gaggle of maritime types already, we must have a harbour. So I shall be the village harbourmaster. A jolly old fellow with a white, bushy beard, a pipe and a catalogue of tales from my former life as a mariner.

WaynetheGoblin
11-27-2005, 11:55 AM
this is going to be a good game. I will be a doctor.

the guy who be short
11-27-2005, 11:56 AM
Hmmm... is it too late to join this game? I've been off werewolf too long for my liking, and seeing as I have a lot of coursework to hand in soon, the most logical thing I can do is join a Werewolf game.

Kath
11-27-2005, 04:43 PM
Hmm, I don't really know what I'd like to be, so if you want to assign me a random role Alcarillo please feel free. Otherwise I shall be the role-less one.

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-27-2005, 05:06 PM
I dont know what to be, if I don't think of anything else I will be a religious leader.

If it is ok with the mod, that is.

mormegil
11-27-2005, 05:17 PM
Hmm, I don't really know what I'd like to be, so if you want to assign me a random role Alcarillo please feel free. Otherwise I shall be the role-less one.

We call "role-less" ones homeless, hobos or bums over here. Is that what you are? ;)

Kath
11-27-2005, 05:27 PM
:D Ok I can be a bum!

Gurthang
11-27-2005, 07:46 PM
Well, this looks to be a good game, especially since everyone seems so excited even before it starts! :D

I think I shall be a dockhand, some unsophisticated grunt worker who moves crates onto ships. Which means I'll be working for Master Saucepan. (I better have some good wages; I've got connections in the Union! ;) )

The Saucepan Man
11-27-2005, 08:58 PM
I better have some good wages; I've got connections in the Union!What's this about unions, young Gurthang my lad? Back in the days when I sailed on the tall ships from Numenor, we didn't have no truck with unions. Oh no. In those days, we knew that we would get an honest wage for an honest day's work. And I wouldn't have missed it for all the pipeweed in Eriador. The things we saw. Strange wondrous things. Oh yes, I could tell you such stories. Like the time that we were becalmed and heard strange siren voice calling from the mist. Harpies they were my lad. Harpies, I tell thee. Foul vultures, with the heads of old hags and the voices of angels. Voices like you have never heard. And if you heard them, my lad, then you'd be lost, just like we nearly were. Trying to draw us onto the rocks they were. The rocks, I tell thee. If it hadn't been for my quick thinking, binding the crew's ears with bandages an' all, we would all have been lost. Lost, I tell thee. Now they don't teach you that kind of thing in yon new-fangled unions, do they?

Unions! Tsk!

Gurthang
11-27-2005, 09:20 PM
What's this about unions, young Gurthang my lad? Back in the days when I sailed on the tall ships from Numenor, we didn't have no truck with unions. Oh no. In those days, we knew that we would get an honest wage for an honest day's work. And I wouldn't have missed it for all the pipeweed in Eriador. The things we saw. Strange wondrous things. Oh yes, I could tell you such stories. Like the time that we were becalmed and heard strange siren voice calling from the mist. Harpies they were my lad. Harpies, I tell thee. Foul vultures, with the heads of old hags and the voices of maidens. If it hadn't been for my quick thinking, binding the crew's ears with bandages, we would all have been lost. Lost, I tell thee. Now they don't teach you that kind of thing in yon new-fangled unions, do they?

Unions! Tsk!

Young! Maybe I be only half your old age, but I've still have a good hunnard 'n thirty years in this harbour! More than you, with all your trapsin' across the sea! I'd have all your tales for my own if I'd ever had legs for the waves, but you can have 'em anyway! Tales of all this far off water and pipeweed! Tuh! pipeweed... who needs the foul tastin' stuff. You've plenty of ye own tales and rubbish, I'll give ya that, but I know more about this here harbour. In fact, I'd be your boss, if I weren't so good at heftin' crate. You may be my senior by a good margin, but I've been in this harbour longer then ye, and that's a fact!

The Saucepan Man
11-27-2005, 09:41 PM
Gurthang is now an unemployed dockhand. :D

Aiwendil
11-27-2005, 10:40 PM
I'm an old retired tutor for the children in wealthy families.

Gurthang
11-27-2005, 11:06 PM
Gurthang is now an unemployed dockhand. :D

You can't fire me! I've got a Union, remember? :p :D


Yeah know, it may be a pretty long game if we do that kind of thing every post. I don't know if I could keep that up for more than a day. (Which is good, cause that's usually how long roleplaying lasts anyway!)

Boromir88
11-28-2005, 05:55 AM
You two may be roleplayed out by the time this one actually starts. :rolleyes:

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-28-2005, 07:05 AM
What can I say, Gurthang and Saucepan have inspired me.

I will not be a religious leader, but a Union leader/boss or what they are called in english.

mormegil
11-28-2005, 08:06 AM
What can I say, Gurthang and Saucepan have inspired me.

I will not be a religious leader, but a Union leader/boss or what they are called in english.

Mobster or tyrant is the normal

Fordim Hedgethistle
11-28-2005, 08:19 AM
I shall be a lithesome Pearl Diver.

Holbytlass
11-28-2005, 09:45 AM
I'll be the butcher.

Gurthang
11-28-2005, 11:00 AM
What can I say, Gurthang and Saucepan have inspired me.

I will not be a religious leader, but a Union leader/boss or what they are called in english.

Excellant. Rune, you and I need to go have a little chat with my employer, who is attempting to become my ex-employer. ;)

The Saucepan Man
11-28-2005, 12:34 PM
I shall be a lithesome Pearl Diver.A Pearl Diver, eh? Now that takes me back to the days when we was sailing the seas far south, in the ocean that lies off Far Harad. The things that dwelt in those seas you wouldn't believe. Oysters as big as houses, there were. And the pearls! Larger than you could imagine they were. Dangerous they were to get hold of, mind you. Them oysters could take yer arm off. Happened to our second mate, it did. Took is arm right off it did. Took it off, I tell thee. I was more lucky mind. Managed to grab three of the beauties, I did. Three of them, I tell thee. Mind you, I lost them when we fell foul of them nasty Haradrim pirates some days later. Cast adrift we were. Those of us that they didn't toss to the sharks, that is. Tossed 'em to the sharks they did. And the size of them sharks! Well, you wouldn't believe it it you saw it. Cast adrift for eight weeks we were, with them bloomin' great sharks circling us every day. Eight days being circled by sharks the size of Oliphaunts, I tell thee. It was a wonder we survived. Many of us didn't, mind.

And you talk to me of Unions, young Gurthang me lad. We didn't have unions to help us grab them pearls or fight off them Haradrim pirates or ward off them flippin' great sharks. No, we didn't 'ave no unions in them days, I tell thee. Now get away with thee, and we'll have no more talk of Unions. Unions! Tsk. Them and their health and safety rules. There'll be no more diving for pearls if they have their way. We will be shipbuilding. With all the will in the world. Diving for dear life. When we could be diving for pearls.

Or maybe it's just a rumour that was spread around town.

Unions! Tsk! Whatever next?

Azaelia of Willowbottom
11-28-2005, 03:34 PM
If space should suddenly by some miracle become available, I'd love to join in. If not, that's ok too, I can always wait for next time ;)

wilwarin538
11-28-2005, 04:35 PM
I'll be the town fiddle player. Not sure if thats how you spell fiddle, I'm speeking of the stringed instrument. :rolleyes: So would that be fiddler or fiddlelist or fidlist maybe? Also not sure of the proper title but that's what I'll be! :D

I need some sleep. ;)

The Saucepan Man
11-28-2005, 06:21 PM
I'll be the town fiddle player.Ah, the evocative sound of the lone fiddle. Puts me in mind of the time we was sailing ...

*The harbourmaster disappears under a hail of assorted lobster-pots, oars, lambs, oyster-shells, crabs, crates, fishing nets and union membership cards.*

TGWBS and Azaelia - and anyone else who wants to join a game - Sleepy Ranger is still recruiting for his game over on the Werewolf Junior thread.

Alcarillo
11-28-2005, 09:39 PM
Great roles, everybody!

The Saucepan Man – harbormaster
Mormegil - repairman specializing in ships and docks.
Formendacil – disgruntled office clerk
Kath – bum
Dancing spawn of ungoliant
WaynetheGoblin - doctor
Rune Son of Bjarne – Union leader
Gurthang – (possibly unemployed) dockhand
Aiwendil – retired tutor
Folwren
Boromir88 – crab farmer
Wilwarin538 – fiddler
Lhunardawen – polite little shepherd girl
Holbytlass – butcher
Fordim Hedgethistle – pearl diver

Attention! If you have not yet chosen an occupation, I will make one up for you! And it'll be boring and unexciting! ;)

The game will start on 3 December, at midnight for those of you in England. So sorry to make some of you (like Rune) stay up so long into the wee hours of the morning, but that's the best time for me. The game will begin with a NIGHT phase, for the wolves to get to know one another and the seer to make a dream.

By the way, I shall be the local tax collector.

mormegil
11-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Is that midnight EST?

Gurthang
11-28-2005, 10:35 PM
So that would be...what exactly in my time? I'm guessing about 6:00 in the morning. But that's alright, I'll figure it out when the game starts, as I have every other time I've played. (BTW, I'm in Central Time, US, but I'm not sure what that exactly is compared to world time.)

Aiwendil
11-28-2005, 11:18 PM
I believe EST is 5 hours behind GMT, so midnight in England should be 7 P.M. for those on the east U.S. coast and 6 P.M. central.

Gurthang
11-28-2005, 11:32 PM
Oh, so I guessed right! Thank you very much Aiwendil.

Oh, and I be wonder'n' how big our harbour be? I been here long, tis true, but I've not been mindful of much but the crate that comes and goes. I can tell ya'll about any supplies, goods, and general freight, but not much else, except maybe the nature of hulls on various vessels. I'd wager Master Saucepan has my right answer for me, but I'd be pleased to not have another long winded tale asides his reply.

(Meaning, is our harbour bigger than a normal 15 villager town would have? It'd almost have to be, to have a Union leader person.)

Alcarillo
11-28-2005, 11:35 PM
Aiwendil's got it!

So in America, the game will start at 4 PM on the West Coast to 7 PM on the East Coast, on the 3rd of December. In England the game will start at midnight. And in most of Europe the game will start at 1 AM on the 4th of December.

And Gurthang: It's just a tiny village, not a major port. The occasional deep-sea fisherman might stop by to patch up some leaks in his boat, but I see no reason why we'd need more than us 15 to populate our village.

Kath
11-29-2005, 04:39 AM
If each Day is going to start as midnight then can we havesome sort of general rule that people from England won't be suspected on grounds of not being there for the first few hours. Those who live alone might be able to get on the computer at an ungodly hour but I can't!

dancing spawn of ungoliant
11-29-2005, 08:32 AM
If each Day is going to start as midnight then can we havesome sort of general rule that people from England won't be suspected on grounds of not being there for the first few hours. Those who live alone might be able to get on the computer at an ungodly hour but I can't!
Hear, hear! I'm not going to stay up till 2.00 am. just to try to appear innocent.

Attention! If you have not yet chosen an occupation, I will make one up for you! And it'll be boring and unexciting! What happened to embarrassing? If it's not too late to choose an occupation, I'll be an embroider.

mormegil
11-29-2005, 08:57 AM
You need not be the first to post or vote to appear innocent or not look guilty. We are all understanding of time zones and I don't think we are over concerned about it. Just stay as late as you can and participate actively and that's good enough for me :D Although I would stay up as late as I could to vote ;)

Gurthang
11-29-2005, 10:15 AM
If each Day is going to start as midnight then can we havesome sort of general rule that people from England won't be suspected on grounds of not being there for the first few hours.

Oh, I wouldn't dream of doing anything else! Of course I'll suspect you! I'll just (probably) refrain from voting for you until you show up... that is unless I initiate the plan(insert creepy music)! ;) :D

Folwren
11-29-2005, 11:20 AM
Ah shucks, people. . .I'm still torn as to whether I should play or not. I want to play. . .I really, really want to play, especially with Alcarillo modding, but I only have internet three days a week, and that is really bad while trying to play a WW game.

. . .

. . .

. . .

Okay, I've just decided that I'll play. Hopefully I'll be able to work my three days so that it'll be three days that are actually days in the game. Maybe. If it's possible.

I'll be a blacksmith and a farrier, both. I'll have a horse, and his name will be Nimrodel. He is grey with black mane and tail and stands no less than sixteen hands high at the whithers.

You all don't mind if I'm Jack in this game, do you? I played with that name in WWJ. It's something of a tradition with me, if you'll understand.

If anyone minds, then say so, but until then, in this game, I'm Jack.

-- Jack

Edit: Consequently (I'll bet that is mispelled), I won't be here the first day, seeing as it starts Dec. 3rd.

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-29-2005, 12:37 PM
The game will start on 3 December, at midnight for those of you in England. So sorry to make some of you (like Rune) stay up so long into the wee hours of the morning, but that's the best time for me.


Thats a perfect time for me. The other games I have played in changed about 3-4 am and adicted as I was/am I stayed up not to miss anything.

Warning to Saucepan Man: You better start treating your employees according to the collective agreement or you will have a strike on your hands.

Boromir88
11-29-2005, 04:28 PM
Being a Crab Farmer, I'm sure I have invested in a boat from our local harbormaster, and my boat shall be my place of residence. :)

mormegil
11-29-2005, 04:39 PM
When can we anticipate roles being sent out?

Alcarillo
11-29-2005, 05:33 PM
I'll send out the roles on December 1 or 2.

List of Players
The Saucepan Man – harbormaster
Mormegil - repairman specializing in ships and docks
Formendacil – disgruntled office clerk
Kath – bum
Dancing spawn of ungoliant - embroider
WaynetheGoblin – doctor
Rune Son of Bjarne – Union leader
Gurthang – (possibly unemployed) dockhand
Aiwendil – retired tutor
Jack – blacksmith and farrier
Boromir88 – crab farmer
Wilwarin538 – fiddler
Lhunardawen – polite little shepherd girl
Holbytlass – butcher
Fordim Hedgethistle – lithesome and non-unionized pearl diver

Roles
3 werewolves
1 cobbler
1 hunter
1 ranger
1 seer
8 ordinary villagers

The Saucepan Man
11-29-2005, 06:08 PM
If each Day is going to start as midnight then can we havesome sort of general rule that people from England won't be suspected on grounds of not being there for the first few hours.I'm not really sure that this can be the subject of any hard and fast rule. As morm said, we just need to bear in mind that we live in different time zones - and also that RL committments can sometimes prevent us posting quite as frequently as we might like. One thing, though. Can everyone make sure to post their excuses for absence in this thread, rather than the game thread. The reason being that I regard anything said in the game thread as capable of being false (given the nature of the game), whereas everything posted here should be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Okay, I've just decided that I'll play. Hopefully I'll be able to work my three days so that it'll be three days that are actually days in the game. Maybe. If it's possible.Folwren, I will be delighted if you do play. But may I ask that you make absolutely sure that your schedule does not mean that you could go missing for days on end. Otherwise it could influence the game quite considerably, particuarly if you are a gifted or a werewolf. I don't want to dissuade you from playing, but I just want you to be sure that you will have time to participate sufficiently.

Warning to Saucepan Man: You better start treating your employees according to the collective agreement or you will have a strike on your hands.Does it strike anyone else as odd that we have a union boss in a village of only 16 people? I hope that young Gurthang hasn't been foolish enough to pay him a subscription or anything like that ... :rolleyes: ;)

Fordim Hedgethistle
11-29-2005, 07:49 PM
Fordim Hedgethistle – pearl diver


That's lithesome (and non-unionised) pearl diver

Gurthang
11-29-2005, 10:00 PM
Does it strike anyone else as odd that we have a union boss in a village of only 16 people? I hope that young Gurthang hasn't been foolish enough to pay him a subscription or anything like that ... :rolleyes: ;)

I was wondering that... I guess my union is basically me, although I'm surprised that you just attempted to fire your entire workforce. :p You'd be loading all those ships on your own! *stands there waiting for some long tail from Master Saucepan about loading crate on some far off shore.*

Lhunardawen
11-29-2005, 11:58 PM
I'm a bit confused. Does the game start on December 3 or 4 midnight GMT?

And I think I'm a little lost. Now don't you all go picking on me because I'm just a polite little shepherd girl and you're all (well, most of you are) men of the sea.

Gurthang
11-30-2005, 01:57 AM
And I think I'm a little lost. Now don't you all go picking on me because I'm just a polite little shepherd girl...

I thought the sheep, and not Little Bo Peep, were supposed to get lost! ;)

Lhunardawen
11-30-2005, 02:14 AM
I thought the sheep, and not Little Bo Peep, were supposed to get lost! ;)They've lost me, I've lost them, what difference does it make? We're all lost. :D

Holbytlass
11-30-2005, 06:25 AM
Aiwendil, I haven't the pleasure of crossing your path (that I know of) so if you please, are you female or male? Thanks. And to be sure, Formendacil, you're male, right? Thanks.

The rest of you...let's just say I might know more than I care to! ;) :D

Aiwendil
11-30-2005, 07:23 AM
I'm male.

I'm afraid I'm unsure of the sex of several people, but I'll try to catch on as the game proceeds. What I'd give for a decent neuter pronoun . . .

Holbytlass
11-30-2005, 08:02 AM
Here's the females (everyone else is male)
Kath
Dancing spawn of ungoliant
Wilwarin538
Lhunardawen
Holbytlass

Jack is Folwren who is female but is the persona 'Jack' male?

What I'd give for a decent neuter pronoun . . .
What would you give for a decent spayed pronoun?

Folwren
11-30-2005, 09:00 AM
Folwren, I will be delighted if you do play. But may I ask that you make absolutely sure that your schedule does not mean that you could go missing for days on end. Otherwise it could influence the game quite considerably, particuarly if you are a gifted or a werewolf. I don't want to dissuade you from playing, but I just want you to be sure that you will have time to participate sufficiently.

I will do my utmost to not miss days on end. I'm still trying to figure it out. Regardless of what I can conjure up, I'm going to be missing whatever days take place on Saturdays and Sundays. I only have internet at work, you see.

Ah. There is a very great difficulty... I was thinking that if I were a regular ordinary villager then it might work, but if I were one of the gifted or a wolf, it wouldn't, because not only would I not have access on days, I would also not have access on nights.

I'm afraid I'll have to withdraw. Unless I can convince my dad to get internet at home, it's simply not doable. Saucepan Man's absolutely right. I wouldn't be able to participate sufficiently if I were anything other than an ordinary villager.

I'm sorry, everybody. I'm especially sorry on your account, Alcarillo. I really wanted to play this game with you as moderator. If I can possibly figure something out in order to play, I'll do it, believe me. But don't get your hopes up. Consider me out unless I suddenly hop back in.

-- Folwren

The Saucepan Man
11-30-2005, 10:27 AM
I only have internet at work, you see ...

Unless I can convince my dad to get internet at home, it's simply not doable.Is your local library an option at weekends?

Folwren
11-30-2005, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by the SpM:
Is your local library an option at weekends?

I don't live in town. . .besides that, I'd have to go to some huge trouble of getting parental permission, because they don't think I'm old enough to get internet by myself. ;)

-- Folwren

Formendacil
11-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Holbytlass, I most definitely be male.

Definitely.

Most definitely.

Folwren
11-30-2005, 01:48 PM
Formendacil, somehow, I wonder if we can totally believe all your definitely's when your Location says 'Dead. Very dead.' :rolleyes:

-- Folwren

Formendacil
11-30-2005, 02:25 PM
Formendacil, somehow, I wonder if we can totally believe all your definitely's when your Location says 'Dead. Very dead.' :rolleyes:

-- Folwren

I'm on the 'Downs, aren't I? But I agree, a Werewolf-related change is called for (though I do not know my role, as yet).

Lhunardawen
12-01-2005, 01:13 AM
Here's the females (everyone else is male)
Kath
Dancing spawn of ungoliant
Wilwarin538
Lhunardawen
Holbytlass Are you sure? I mean, the word 'girl' in my occupation could be a diversion of some sort, as well as that -wen suffix in my name... ;)

Folwren
12-01-2005, 09:50 AM
Okay, it's looking like I'll be able to make this work. Hopefully. As long as you all are willing to bear with me. If you are not, then say so, and I'll drop. I don't want to take any unfair advantage of you all because I won't be here some days to defend or talk for myself.

Here's how it would be, for me, if I played:

Night One, being December 3rd-December 4th - I would not participate.
Day One - I would be able to participate.
Night Two - I would be here.
Day Three - I would be here.
Night Four - I would be here.
Day Four - I would not be here.
Night Five- I would not be here
Day Five- I would be here. . .

And the pattern stays the same. I think that's how it would be.

Tell me what you think about my being able to participate well or not on that schedule.

-- Folwren

Gurthang
12-01-2005, 02:26 PM
Night One, being December 3rd-December 4th - I would not participate.
Day One - I would be able to participate.
Night Two - I would be here.
Day Three - I would be here.
Night Four - I would be here.
Day Four - I would not be here.
Night Five- I would not be here
Day Five- I would be here. . .


Where's Day Two and Night Three?

I'm perfectly willing to let you play; this kind of thing seems to me to be a moderator's choice. I'm just wondering if you're willing to take the chance of getting lynched when you're not around. I don't mean to be mean, but if I begin to think you are guilty, your absence will be the last thing on my mind.

Folwren
12-01-2005, 03:22 PM
lol. How unuterably embarrassing. I'd missed those that you just pointed out. . .let me try to go through this and rethink things again.

Night 1 - Dec. 3-4 - not there
Day 1 - Dec. 4-5 - is there
Night 2 - Dec. 5-6- is there
Day 2 - Dec. 6-7- is there
Night 3 - Dec. 7-8 - is there
Day 3 - Dec. 8-9 - not there
Night 4 - Dec. 9- 10 - not there
Day 4 - Dec. 10- 11 - not there

I think that does it.

I don't mean to be mean, but if I begin to think you are guilty, your absence will be the last thing on my mind.

I know. I'm not going to ask for you all not to kill me because I'm absent. I was thinking (for some reason) that I wouldn't be there the first Day, but it turns out I'll only be missing that first night.

But my absense on those days that I'm going to be gone may be a handicap to people if I am a gifted person, and in turn, may also be a handicap to the wolves, if I'm a fellow wolf.

I have an hour left before I leave for home until Monday. Something ought to be resolved before then, I hope.

-- Folwren

Lhunardawen
12-02-2005, 02:27 AM
Mister Moderator?

Alcarillo
12-02-2005, 09:07 PM
I'm here! And I will be sending out your roles right now. You should also be invisible at the moment.

I've also been PMing Folwren and she will play.

The game will start in 21 hours, so just add that to the time of this post and you'll get the time the first night will start.

Final notice on times: The game will start with a NIGHT phase on December 3, midnight GMT or 7 PM EST. Each DAY/NIGHT phase lasts a day.

wilwarin538
12-03-2005, 10:33 AM
Wouldn't it be easier if the first NIGHT is right now. Since the wolves know who they are and don't have as much work to do the first NIGHT they don't really need as much time. Also this way the first DAY can be Sunday and students will have more time to post.

What do you think?

Alcarillo
12-03-2005, 01:20 PM
Wait, now I see what you mean!

I could start the first DAY today, but that means I have some additional writing to finish. The wolves also might've hesitated till I started the NIGHT to speak with each other, so starting DAY today would give them little time for planning. I think I'll stick with the time I planned for.

Don't worry if you can't post much. You can post an excuse on this thread if you want, so the other players know what's going on.

PS If somebody can come up with a better name than Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIV: Saga-nu-Falmar, please please tell me!

Formendacil
12-03-2005, 02:22 PM
Wait, now I see what you mean!

I could start the first DAY today, but that means I have some additional writing to finish. The wolves also might've hesitated till I started the NIGHT to speak with each other, so starting DAY today would give them little time for planning. I think I'll stick with the time I planned for.

Don't worry if you can't post much. You can post an excuse on this thread if you want, so the other players know what's going on.

PS If somebody can come up with a better name than Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIV: Saga-nu-Falmar, please please tell me!

I, personally, would recommend NOT changing timing and all that, since people have been planning their lives, etc, based on the previous timing, and its pretty short notice to change.

Meanwhile, how about "Quenta-nu-Falmar". I've no idea exactly how correct that is in Quenya, but "Quenta" is used in the "saga" sort of context in the "Quenta Silmarillion".

Perhaps "Quenta Falmarrion" would work?

I don't know... Speak Quenya I do not.

Alcarillo
12-03-2005, 02:44 PM
How about: Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIV: Nyárë Nauroron Númenoreva? It means Saga of the Werewolves of Numenor. Ardalambion (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/) gives nyárë as a word for tale or saga, and is related to Sindarin narn. Nauroron, means "of werewolves", but sounds a bit strange to me. And Númenoreva is "of Numenor."

Overall I like the alliteration.

PS At the time I'm editing this, NIGHT 1 will start in 3 hours.

Alcarillo
12-03-2005, 06:12 PM
NIGHT 1 has now begun! Please only post on this thread to notify us of absences. DAY 1 will start in 24 hours. The game is here: Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIV: Nyárë Nauroron Númenoreva (http://ww.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=12421)

And I've also decided that the Hunter is not one of the Elendili, but is just an exceptionally strong hunter capable of killing werewolves. Just wait for my death in the morning for everything to be explained.

Gurthang
12-03-2005, 11:12 PM
I notice that you stated that the werewolves win if the number of werewolves and the cobbler is greater than or equal to the number of villagers. I'm just wondering if this is an intentional change or if it's not just me overanalyzing.

Alcarillo
12-03-2005, 11:16 PM
Overanalyzing. :p

I thought it was like that :confused: , but I'll change it to: werewolves win if there are as many werewolves as villagers, if that's how games are usually played.

Gurthang
12-04-2005, 10:01 AM
Thank you, but I should point out that, logistically, your way works. But I'll not get into that. Shutting up. :D

dancing spawn of ungoliant
12-05-2005, 07:39 AM
I found a nasty little surprise as I tried to get online this afternoon: our firewall broke and now I don't have an internet access. Currently I'm at my dad's office using his computer, and we'll repair the firewall as soon as possible, but it's Finland's independence day on Tuesday and it's quite impossible to get someone to fix it then.

I'll try to find a way to pop online by using a library's computer or something, but you'll see me much less than I had hoped for a couple of days. I assume that I'll get the access back later this week and I can participate more then if I'm still alive.

Fordim Hedgethistle
12-05-2005, 12:13 PM
I just posted something to the game thread that I suddenly realised should be here --

RL commitments will prevent me from posting today after 2:00 PM EST (7:00 PM GMT) so I will have to cast my vote early. I won't be able to get back on the Internet until 10:00 PM EDT so I'll have to check then for the results of the first day's vote.

Fordim Hedgethistle
12-05-2005, 05:19 PM
In the interest of the abovesaid, I wanted to acknowlege here that life HAS allowed me to return to the Downs before the deadline (just in case anyone has checked and/or noticed the "last activity" info) -- I may even post to the game thread before 7:00

I assure you all this was a quirk of scheduling in an increasingly hectic life, and not gamesmanship.

mormegil
12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
One thing, though. Can everyone make sure to post their excuses for absence in this thread, rather than the game thread. The reason being that I regard anything said in the game thread as capable of being false (given the nature of the game), whereas everything posted here should be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I assure you all this was a quirk of scheduling in an increasingly hectic life, and not gamesmanship.

Understood and it is the law.

Holbytlass
12-08-2005, 09:52 AM
I'm very sorry, my daughter busted her knee and had to be taken to Urgent Care for stitches last night. She's fine now, thrilled she gets to watch cartoons all day!

Fordim Hedgethistle
12-08-2005, 12:21 PM
Sorry for this, but I shall not be able to participate in the next DAY at all due to pressing real-life concerns of truly epic proportions.

I will be able to get on to the Internet briefly tonight (only 2-3 hours into the DAY) at which point I will put up an omnibus post in which I reflect on DAY TWO’s events and cast my vote for DAY THREE. I will have to write this post before the DAY actually begins so I probably won’t be able to take into account the NIGHT’s events.

Apologies to all. I will be able to return to the game by late Friday night.

mormegil
12-09-2005, 12:55 AM
Formendacil to answer your question about the cobbler I decided to do it here. According to my understanding when the cobbler dies it is known to the village also the seer would see him/her in the dream.

Ah I am corrected here is the official rule on it.

His job sucks so bad, he wants to die. The cobbler is on the werewolves team, but is not a werewolf! He doesnt know who the werewolves are, they dont know who he is. The game does not end in a situation where #(werewolves+ cobbler) >= #villagers. The cobbler looks like a villager to the seer. The cobbler is very interesting in that he actually doesnt mind being lynched in many cases, to protect a werewolf from dying. He can also create situations late in the game where he can form a voting block with the remaining werewolf and then block any lunchings from occurring. You can even have cases where the werewolf is trying to convince the cobbler that he is in fact a wolf, or that someone might fake being a cobbler to rat out who the wolf is, so they can then say they arent really a cobbler and lynch them!
Obviously, the cobbler is a strong addition to the werewolf team. I think its a great role for situations where having one more werewolf would be too strong, but without it the werewolves are screwed.

Lhunardawen
12-12-2005, 01:18 AM
I know it's Night but since you've all decided to kill me anyway, and since I believe I owe you all an explanation....

YesterDay, which was chiefly Sunday where I am, I had to go to this church gathering far away from where I live, and I knew it would take me most of the day. I fully intended to be back later during the night to somehow catch the Day's events - although I probably couldn't have done much to help the village then - mainly because I knew I was at risk of being lynched.

Unfortunately, while we were still at the place where the church convergence was held, my mom and I ended up being hospitalized*. Yes, we were discharged from the hospital later during the night (around 8 PM), but we got home so late that it was impossible for me to check out and participate in the game. And it was also impossible for me to be online before the Day actually ends (which is at 8 AM here, today) because I had to wake up at 4 for a seven o'clock class...

I'm really very sorry for any inconveniences my absence caused. I assure you it was not any ploy that involves a werewolf. Then again, you already know who I am, er, was. And I'm sorry for failing the village, and Alcarillo. :(

*That was the short of it. In the highly unlikely event that you are interested in the details, I can entertain queries via PM.

The Saucepan Man
12-13-2005, 08:35 PM
Lhuna, I hope that it was nothing too serious and that you are now feeling better.

OK, any volunteers to mod the next game? We're getting close to Christmas, but what do people think about starting a game now and perhaps taking a 2 day break in the middle over Christmas Day and Boxing Day?

If the next game doesn't start until after Christmas, I probably won't be able to play as we are moving house on 6 January and I'm not sure how long it will take me to get my internet connection up in the new place.

If we start before Christmas, then I am most definately on for another game.

mormegil
12-13-2005, 09:23 PM
I would probably be up for another game though I am willing to give my spot up if needed so another can have it.

Gurthang
12-13-2005, 09:34 PM
I'm up for another game. Hopefully, I won't get killed in the first two days like the last three games.

And a two day break would be great for me, also. I don't have any plans for the 25th, but I'm not sure I want to spend it reading through posts all day(as I'm sure I'd do).

Rune Son of Bjarne
12-13-2005, 09:41 PM
I have yet to prove my self as a good WW player.

I will of course be playing in the next one.

Formendacil
12-13-2005, 11:53 PM
I'm willing to play in the next game if numbers look low, but I'll hold off on modding one until January or February, when, if not having more time, I'll at least have my current time more conveniently.

Farael
12-14-2005, 01:15 AM
Well, if there's room for this inexperienced WW player, I'd like to give it a try. After reading some of the last werewolf game I'm wondering if I should start a game of Internet Risk with you guys! I can already picture some good arguments trying to.... ok, I'm going way off topic, but the point is

Count me in for the next WW game :)

Lhunardawen
12-14-2005, 01:44 AM
Hopefully there will be no more sudden trips to any hospital ER this time.

Please count me in, if you will. :)

By the way, thanks everyone! I'm feeling much, much better now...except for the fact that the werewolves won. Grrr... :mad:

Anguirel
12-14-2005, 03:54 AM
I'd like to try my hand at modding my Villagers Strike Back.

If possible, I'd like to obtain a back-up...just in case.

As for rules:

I'll take 15-20 players on board.

The game will be set in Tol-in-Gaurhoth itself. Three intrepid villagers, disguised by Elvish magic, prepare to strike into the heart of their hated enemies the wolves...

3 Heroes
Sauron, the Seer
Draugluin, the Guardian
Carcharoth, the Hunter
Huan, the Cobbler
8-13 Werewolves

Non-retractable votes. Double lynchings, but, using the Spawn method, if it goes beyond that two canditates will be randomly chosen out of the three or more.

As the villagers are all posing as werewolves, your roles should be lupine-Old Grey Wolf, or Irritating Runt, for example.

I will be an Injured but Large Wolf.

Players on board so far:

Lhunardawen
Farael
Formendacil
Rune Son Of Bjarne
mormegil
Saucepanman, the (Big Bad Wolf)

Cailin (my sidekick)

Cailín
12-14-2005, 03:55 AM
Well, I could be tempted to play again and even possibly mod a game - though I was planning on doing something different and I’m still working out the details (besides - most players seem to prefer basic games anyway and I was way down on the mod-in-waiting list). With Christmas Break coming up, I should have enough time to participate, in theory.

Um, yeah, I’ll think about it. -continues muttering vaguely-

Edit: Cross-posting again. Just sign me up as a player then. :)

Anguirel
12-14-2005, 03:59 AM
Actually, Cailin, if you eased my mind and became my back-up, I would praise you with great praises. Would you be on for that? You'd get insight into the inner workings of the game even if you didn't get to take control.

Cailín
12-14-2005, 04:24 AM
Actually, yes, I think I would be.

It would be great to get some modding experience without the terrible burden of actually being the mod and I'd be honoured to help you out. Especially if there are great praises involved. ;)

Anguirel
12-14-2005, 04:37 AM
Perfect!

Well, I'll be back this time tomorrow, and hope to see a merry band of wolves ready to receive their roles...

The Saucepan Man
12-14-2005, 05:23 AM
Sounds interesting.

I assume that it will be just like regular Werewolf, but with the roles reversed (ie Heroes know who each other are, kill a Wolf each night and Wolves have to try to find and kill them).

Do the Heroes make their kills during the day, with Wolvish discussions taking place at night?

Saucepanman, the (unless I'm too tardy in starting...)Provided that we can start this weekend or early next week, I should be OK.

I shall be the Big Bad Wolf, full of huff and puff. :D

Anguirel
12-14-2005, 05:45 AM
Sounds interesting.

I assume that it will be just like regular Werewolf, but with the roles reversed (ie Heroes know who each other are, kill a Wolf each night and Wolves have to try to find and kill them).

Do the Heroes make their kills during the day, with Wolvish discussions taking place at night?


You have it exactly right! Which should make it most confusing and fun...

Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-14-2005, 06:16 AM
Anguirel, old boy, I would consider it an honour to play in thy game of Werewolf. :)

Holbytlass
12-14-2005, 06:31 AM
Anguirel, that is a great idea! There are fairytale stories out where the roles are reversed, such as "Goldilockas and the Three Bears"- the three bears are the victims and Goldilocks is the vicious thief.

How is your game going to work? Will there be lots of wolves and a couple of villagers that do the killing at night? Anyway, sounds like fun. I won't have the honor of being part of your village, but look forward to your storyline.

Boromir88
12-14-2005, 07:00 AM
Wow Anguirel this sounds great, wonderful idea. I would like to dip my hands in this situation, and this shall be my last game for a while as after Christmas the Fireworks season starts. :D

dancing spawn of ungoliant
12-14-2005, 07:36 AM
I'd really like to play in this game (and live a tad longer than in the last one... )!

Gurthang
12-14-2005, 08:51 AM
Well, I guess my earlier post was missed... none the less, sign me up! :D

This game is a great idea Anguirel. Especially just getting off of 'The Game of Three Cobblers', this should be very confusing and delightful.

As for a name... Saucepan's already got the cream of the crop, so mine shall be Gil-Gurth, which (very roughly translated) means 'Star of Death'. Even if that isn't exactly right, which there is a good chance it's not, I'll keep it like it is because it sounds more like my name. I look forward to the start of the game. Now, to find some new 'plan'. ;)

Or not... my plans tend to get me lynched. :rolleyes:

Kitanna
12-14-2005, 09:08 AM
If there's still room to play I would like to sign up for this game.

mormegil
12-14-2005, 10:25 AM
Sounds fantastic! Although I must admit at first I had to wonder why Huan would be the cobbler but then I thought in reverse and it made sense.

I would love to play a beta-male though I'm not sure beta-males would be as vocal as I am. I've tried to play quiet before and it just doesn't work for me...I guess I'll be an aged and battle wisened wolf dispensing my opinions and advise on anyone that will listen or even pretend to listen.

When do you anticipate sending roles out?

The Saucepan Man
12-14-2005, 11:29 AM
I've tried to play quiet before and it just doesn't work for me...Tell me about it! Every time that I play, I tell myself that I am going to resist making long and frequent posts, and every time I fail dismally! :rolleyes:

One thing is for sure. The long and comprehensive notes are out of the window. They don't make a blind bit of difference. However detailed, however much they cross-reference votes, accusations and defences, however much I try to draw together connections or noteworthy incidents, they would seem to provide me with no assistance whatsoever in finding a wolf. :rolleyes:

Oddwen
12-14-2005, 11:47 AM
Ooohh ooh oooh oooo I've been waiting for a game like this...would this game start on Sunday, perchance?

And would the wolves be able to communicate secretly (aka PM's) also? Though that would probably cut down on public discussions.

If it does start on Sunday, please sign me up. Hopefully my free time won't be too dodgy. :)

I shall be - a bloody-minded young whelp.

Farael
12-14-2005, 12:16 PM
Great, my first WW game and I'm already a werewolf for sure! what? you are saying that we will all be werewolves? that now the role of the werewolves will be taken by the villagers? you tricksy barrow downers' trying to get me all confused already!!

On a sidenote, I think I may be a werewolf in denial, who pretends that he is just a very hairy man who befriends werewolves at night.... it will be interesting but it is likely to get me killed, so I might just change that.

Kath
12-14-2005, 01:07 PM
I'd love to join up again. I'll have more time this game too since I'm (finally) off school so I should be louder!

Formendacil
12-14-2005, 01:30 PM
This is a hilarious idea, Anguirel!

Hmm... a role....

Big Bad Wolf... taken.
Crossdressing Grandma Wolf... no thanks...
Hmm... Balto? Nah!

Just call me Lobo.

Cailín
12-14-2005, 01:34 PM
Anguirel, old boy, I would consider it an honour to play in thy game of Werewolf. :)

Good thing Anguirel asked me to be back-up mod. :eek: ;)

You have it exactly right! Which should make it most confusing and fun...

Does that mean that the game starts with the lynching of a villager or will it start with a Day phase?

Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-14-2005, 01:58 PM
That girl is going to play Morgoth to my Túrin—verily, it is again my turn to fear the malice of Cailín. :eek: ;)

I will be a Black Warg from the now bitter land of Rhûn. Spiteful, treacherous and callous. Impressionable young wolves look up to me as an inspiration.

Looking forward to the game Ang. :)

mormegil
12-14-2005, 02:06 PM
I will be a Black Warg from the now bitter land of Rhûn. Spiteful, treacherous and callous. Impressionable young wolves look up to me as an inspiration.




A mere warg amongst werewolves? An easy target for bullying is more likely :p

Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-14-2005, 02:15 PM
Rest assured, The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread will be treated as canon in this game. 'Mere Warg' you say, Master Mormegil? I think I know what we'll be arguing about on Day One. :D

Mithalwen
12-14-2005, 02:31 PM
Seriously tempted to have another bash ... but may not have enough access away from work :S

Meneltarmacil
12-14-2005, 03:37 PM
I would like to sign up, however, I'm going to be leaving on Christmas Day and will be gone for a few days then. If that's all right and I'm in the game, I'd like to be the Lone Wolf, kind of the odd one out who feels free to voice his opinions and doesn't care what the others think.

WaynetheGoblin
12-14-2005, 04:49 PM
Nowone tell wilwa im playing this i wasent sapost to sign up. sign me up.

Nonnacedak
12-14-2005, 04:59 PM
I would like to join this game(Mormagil talked me into it.).

Since the innocents are now werewolf's and I don't believe werewolf's work a whole lot I guess I will be a werewolf that enjoys eating dead flesh over live flesh. This unhealthy and disgusting habit has made him somewhat of a freak and even an outcast to the other werewolf's.

mormegil
12-14-2005, 05:02 PM
17 to 18 so far


Saucepan Man
Mormegil
Gurthang
Rune
Formendacil
Farael
Lhuna
Eomer
Holby
Boromir
Spawn
Kitanna
Oddwen
Kath
Mithalwen??? (I hope so ) :)
Meneltarmacil
Wayne
Nonnacedak


I hope this makes it easier for you Ang.

Also when do you plan on starting and I'll ask again about when roles will be sent?

The Saucepan Man
12-14-2005, 05:49 PM
Hmm, I have a slight concern that, with so many players and a two day break for Christmas, this game is going to run well over 2 weeks. Which will cause me problems if I am still alive near the end. Apparently it can take up to 10 days for AoL to reconnect someone to Broadband when they move so I will basically be out of action from 6 to 8 January, although I will have restricted access thereafter (from work). Ang, do you anticipate that causing any problems?

In any event, the earlier we start, the better for me.

I will be a farmer.I fear that you may be rather conspicuous (and short-lived) in a village full of Wolves ... ;)

Rune Son of Bjarne
12-14-2005, 05:55 PM
I will be a Shepherd and that's a pretty cool thing to be when you are a wolf.

Meneltarmacil
12-14-2005, 05:57 PM
I found out that I'll be gone December 25-28, getting back the 29th. So if the game is going to go that long, I don't think I'll be able to play.

The Saucepan Man
12-14-2005, 05:59 PM
I will be a Shepherd and that's a pretty cool thing to be when you are a wolf.Which I assume means, in a Wolfish village, that you are a waiter. :smokin:

Glirdan
12-14-2005, 06:07 PM
Oh, I'm so in!!!! Please, if there's room, Put me up on the list!!!

Lhunardawen
12-14-2005, 07:47 PM
This will be so interesting. And I'm glad to see the return of Eomer. ;)

I shall be the girl-who-cried wolf. :D

Boromir88
12-14-2005, 08:42 PM
My next role I was planning to be an exorcist specializing in werewolves., but in a werewolf village this would be rather...frowned upon. So, I guess I'll be an exorcist specializing in heroes.

tar-ancalime
12-15-2005, 02:20 AM
Definitely wishing I had time for this.

I can't possibly play, but if I could my role would be ROYAL BITCH.

The Saucepan Man
12-15-2005, 03:59 AM
So, I guess I'll be an exorcist specializing in heroes.And there was me thinking that you would be a Wily Coyote ... ;)

Anguirel
12-15-2005, 04:17 AM
morm, you're a hero. (Not casting any aspersions!) I was wondering how I was going to memorise everyone...

Saucepan Man-Big Bad Wolf
Mormegil-Crabby Old Wolf
Gurthang-Gil-Gurth
Rune-Wolf-in-Shepherd's-Clothing
Formendacil-Lobo
Farael-Werewolf In Denial
Lhuna-Girl-Who-Cried-Wolf
Eomer-Black Warg of Rhun
Boromir-Exorcist Specialising in Heroes
Spawn-Wolf O' Nine Tails
Kitanna-Beta Wolf
Oddwen-Bloodthirsty Whelp
Kath-Runt of the Litter
Mithalwen??? (I hope so ) (Me too...)-Alpha Female
Meneltarmacil-Lone Wolf
Wayne-Fairy Hunter
Nonnacedak-Scavenger
Glirdan-Butcher

Holby can't play, sadly. Actually, I'm going to settle for 17 players and end it here, because 17 is a pleasantly bizarre number...do think of roles, those of you who haven't yet. And Mith, please confirm that you can play. Naturally it's compulsory that you say yes...

When all that's sorted, I'll send out secret roles.

Oh, and how to people feel about Nights (ie Days) starting and ending at 2:00pm GMT/7:00pm EST?

We'll start as soon as possible-indeed, I'd like to post the thread tomorrow afternoon, ideally!

Mithalwen
12-15-2005, 06:46 AM
Oh go on then.... but I would just state that while I should be able to get on every day with a bit of effort , unless a miracle happens and I persuade my mac to go online ... it will be from work, cybercafes, libraries etc... therefore I may only be around for a limited period once on days when I am not at work. ......

WaynetheGoblin
12-15-2005, 06:54 AM
I will be a psycho fairy hunter.

Anguirel
12-15-2005, 07:30 AM
I must say, I had no clue what a siko fairy hunter was. I imagined it must be an esoteric offshoot of Oriental myth. So I googled it.

I now suspect you meant psycho...

I now only need Glirdan, Spawn, Kath and Kitanna's roles before I send out the secret personae...

Kath
12-15-2005, 08:00 AM
I'll be the runt of a litter.

mormegil
12-15-2005, 08:07 AM
Anguirel, that time works fine with me.

Edit: I would like to add to my persona that due to my old age I have become slightly crabby and cantankerous.

Lalaith
12-15-2005, 11:12 AM
Ang, I thought he was a "sicko fairy hunter". (as in, ugh, you're a real sicko) So, I then wondered, was he a sicko hunter or was he hunting sicko fairies? And then I started imagining what sicko fairies might be like...
It's these little things that help the winter afternoons just fly by....

dancing spawn of ungoliant
12-15-2005, 11:32 AM
Oh, and how to people feel about Nights (ie Days) starting and ending at 2:00pm GMT/7:00pm EST?That's fine with me. Most of the discussion happens still while I'm asleep or at school, but that's quite ok.

I shall be Wolf o' Nine Tails.

Kitanna
12-15-2005, 11:48 AM
I was going to pick beta wolf as my role, but since morm has already chosen that one I'll pick the wolf-god Fenris because that was the second role that came to mind.

Also this game is starting Saturday isn't it? Because I'm going home for the first time in five months on Saturday so that day and Sunday I probably won't make more than one or two posts. I apologize in advance for that, but family first.

mormegil
12-15-2005, 11:51 AM
I was going to pick beta wolf as my role, but since morm has already chosen that one I'll pick the wolf-god Fenris because that was the second role that came to mind.

No I thought it would be fun to be a beta wolf though I can't imagine me doing it. So by all means take that role, it would be rather fun for me to have yet another person with whom I can be crabby. ;)

Oddwen
12-15-2005, 01:02 PM
Hmm...Christmas and Christmas Eve are out for me, and if the game goes past the first of Jan., I'll be non-postal.

Meneltarmacil
12-15-2005, 01:38 PM
Okay! Thanks for including me. However, if the game goes past Christmas, feel free to lynch me then as I cannot post from then until the 29th.

Formendacil
12-15-2005, 02:45 PM
Oh, and how to people feel about Nights (ie Days) starting and ending at 2:00pm GMT/7:00pm EST?

Same time then as our last game...

Worked well enough for me!

Boromir88
12-15-2005, 02:48 PM
And there was me thinking that you would be a Wily Coyote ...
Haha, but if I was a Coyote (especially a Wily one) I would just be the pack soccerball. :p

Mithalwen??? (I hope so ) (Me too...)-
Me three. :D

7 EST worked well for me last time. The only thing is now, I'm going to have trouble switching around the talk, talking like a wolf and going after the heroes, instead of vice versa. But it will be fun reverse roles.

Kath
12-15-2005, 04:39 PM
Umm, isn't EST behind GMT? So if it were 7:00pm EST then it would be 12 midnight that days would start and end GMT?

mormegil
12-15-2005, 04:42 PM
Kath I see your point but I believe that Ang meant 2AM GMT. I could be wrong but London is currently 5 hours ahead of EST.

Kath
12-15-2005, 04:44 PM
Indeed. 7+5=12 no? I know I'm bad at maths but not that bad! :rolleyes: Either way it doesn't matter, I just wanted to know the end time because I tend to be quite close to the end on the voting sometimes.

Cailín
12-15-2005, 04:50 PM
Oh, and how to people feel about Nights (ie Days) starting and ending at 2:00pm GMT/7:00pm EST?

Was just about to say fine times but impossible - but Kath was there first!

If it is indeed 2AM GMT you meant to say, as Mormegil seems to think, I'd have to mutter weakly in protest.

mormegil
12-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Indeed. 7+5=12 no? I know I'm bad at maths but not that bad! :rolleyes: Either way it doesn't matter, I just wanted to know the end time because I tend to be quite close to the end on the voting sometimes.

Must you embarass me in front of everybody?

That's what happens when you post before you think. I will stop assuming what Anguirel meant and leave it to him.

Kath
12-15-2005, 05:02 PM
Sorry morm :D

Glirdan
12-15-2005, 05:36 PM
The time is actually perfect for me. Since this is perfect for a village of Werewolves, I'll be a butcher!!!! :D :p

So, do you have an aproxamation of when we'll be starting?

AbercrombieOfRohan
12-15-2005, 07:38 PM
Saucie, maybe you'll be able to be a werewolf in this game!

And, will there still be "lynchings"? Or will it now be "maulings" (of some variation)?

The Saucepan Man
12-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Saucie, maybe you'll be able to be a werewolf in this game!Indeed, the thought had occurred to me that this could well be my first chance to be a Wolf ... :rolleyes: ;)

Rune Son of Bjarne
12-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Well 2 am GMT is fine by me, as long as you guys understand that I might have to go to bed before 2 am once or twice, allthough it is not likely to happen.

I am on GMT +1 wich means that days/nights will end/start at 3 am, but I am usually still up at that time.

AbercrombieOfRohan
12-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Though perhaps, for irony's sake, it's best if you remain a villager. :p

Farael
12-16-2005, 12:05 AM
Pretty much any time will be alright for me as I WROTE MY LAST EXAM!! (for this term at least) which means that I can (and will) stay up until odd hours in the morning for no special reason. It is possible that on the 25th I will not be around for most of the day, but it seems no one will... My friends and I are having our soon to become traditional Christmas snow football game but besides the 25th I'll most likely be here.

I'm looking forward for my first werewolf game already! Be nice guys, don't linch me too soon!!

Lhunardawen
12-16-2005, 12:49 AM
Hmm... 2 AM GMT...and I'm on GMT +8...that means 10 AM my time...

The worst that could possibly happen is that I will always vote way ahead of everyone, and before any "meaty" discussion takes place. There's no way I'm waking up before 10 on days like these! :p

But if that's 2 PM GMT...well, most of the discussion will still happen while I'm asleep but at least I'll vote much later after them.

But I'm okay with either, actually. I'm used to taking hits (partly) because of my weird time zone... :(

Anguirel
12-16-2005, 02:11 AM
Oh God, I knew I was going to mess this time thing up. You know, I am a holder of an A* Maths GCSE by the skin of my teeth, and I can't count to save my nine lives.

2:00 pm GMT, 9:00 am EST (I think??)

By the way, Lalaith, I noticed your vocabularial clarification and are you sure you don't want to hop on board? Even if I'm not strictly speaking a player, Werewolf won't seem the same without you...I'll happily break the 17 rule.

All players now have public roles, but I'll just give Lalaith some time to be tempted, and everyone else a chance to declare that my time is non-existent, again...

Mithalwen
12-16-2005, 07:01 AM
Indeed, the thought had occurred to me that this could well be my first chance to be a Wolf ... :rolleyes: ;)

Ah but maybe even when everyone is a wolf you won't be......

Lalaith
12-16-2005, 07:11 AM
(rehash of PM to Ang) - although I'd vowed, for everyone's sake, never to go near a werewolf game again after the Shamville debacle, I was sorely tempted to join Ang's. Holiday-related reasons alas prevent me... :(

Mithalwen
12-16-2005, 07:17 AM
Now I have got myself in to it..I guess I had better sort out my character... I imagine a female wolf of a certain age ... marlene dietrich meets Lilian Bellamy en route to Norma Desmond... now what is the wolf equivalent of a gin and tonic?

Lalaith
12-16-2005, 07:34 AM
Hehe. I think Lilian Bellamy would make a marvellous werewolf....from now on, I shall never think of her in any other way.

The Saucepan Man
12-16-2005, 08:05 AM
Though perhaps, for irony's sake, it's best if you remain a villager.

Ah but maybe even when everyone is a wolf you won't be......The irony of that situation, should it occur, would most certainly not escape me.

2pm GMT suits me fine.

Just to be sure, we are taking a 2 day break over Christmas Day/Boxing Day, aren't we?

mormegil
12-16-2005, 08:17 AM
I'm probably the furthest player west and it will be 7AM which should work fine though there may be nights where I vote earlier than normal.

Now when do you think we will get roles and actually start? I'm getting anxious. :p

Mithalwen
12-16-2005, 10:13 AM
Hehe. I think Lilian Bellamy would make a marvellous werewolf....from now on, I shall never think of her in any other way.

She is rather feline though.. Lynda Snell now is definitely lupine - think of the afghans.... but she is not an alpha female - aspirational beta.. ;)

Anguirel
12-16-2005, 01:22 PM
I'm just about to dispatch roles. Ooo the suspense...

Formendacil
12-16-2005, 01:33 PM
I'm probably the furthest player west and it will be 7AM which should work fine though there may be nights where I vote earlier than normal.

Now when do you think we will get roles and actually start? I'm getting anxious. :p

Same timezone thing going on here... Don't maul us just because we're asleep!

Mithalwen
12-16-2005, 02:25 PM
It would be helpful to know the start time too so I can plan my weekend.......

Anguirel
12-16-2005, 02:26 PM
Everyone should now have their real role. I'll probably post the thread early tomorrow due to something coming up later in the day, not that it matters too much, I hope.

Mith-thread will be up 8-9:00 tomorrow morning I think.

Mithalwen
12-16-2005, 02:37 PM
But that will be - oh this is confusing a Day phase (ie no posting)? Or are we looking at a vote closing at 2 pm Sunday?

Anguirel
12-17-2005, 02:38 AM
Sorry to reply so late. We'll begin with a Night phase which acts as a Day, ending with a lynching (devouring) 2pm Sunday. You'll see...

Anguirel
12-17-2005, 03:56 AM
I've made rather a pig's ear of this. I want to get the game going quickly, so I'm allowing the Seer a dream and the wolves a chance to PM until 2:00 pm GMT today-IE it'll be a much shorter Day phase than would be usual-and then we'll have our first Night discussion after my death, ending at 2:00pm GMT tomorrow. So it goes:

Now to 2:00 pm-quick Day (Night in normal werewolf terminology)

2:00pm today-2:00 pm tomorrow-Night discussion

I'll write something to this effect on the new thread.

Mithalwen
12-17-2005, 10:58 AM
Oh bother ....... I have just got this message and I don't know if I will be able to get online again before 2pm tomorrow ........ argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .... last minute family stuff .........

Cailín
12-17-2005, 11:19 AM
Well I'm not really in charge but for the newbies and extremely forgetful...

I can still see some of you! Please make sure you are on invisible mode.

Thanks ;)

Farael
12-17-2005, 12:25 PM
Alright, just for your information I shall leave in five minutes (check the time of this post) and I should be back in about five hours... but it might take longer. I'm volunteering so keep that in mind before lynching me! =P I'm being nice.... I mean bad! I'm being bad, for we werewolves are evil!! yes, that is it, I'm voluntarily attacking a village, of course... :rolleyes:

Kath
12-17-2005, 06:14 PM
I'm a little confused due to what I'm seeing as early votes. Does this time period end at 2AM or 2PM. As in, does it end two hours from now or 14 hours from now?

Rune Son of Bjarne
12-17-2005, 07:01 PM
Hey I miss understood when we were starting thats why I have not postet yet. I am very sorry guys, I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me.

Well I will go post now.

Cailín
12-18-2005, 03:32 AM
I'm a little confused due to what I'm seeing as early votes. Does this time period end at 2AM or 2PM. As in, does it end two hours from now or 14 hours from now?

I'm pretty sure it's 2PM. :)

Kath
12-18-2005, 06:09 PM
Alright then I apologise. I assumed it was 2am so didn't get back on today to vote.

Meneltarmacil
12-18-2005, 09:12 PM
I am on US Eastern Time and I have school, so I will not be posting until about 5 and a half hours after the next phase starts. So please don't think I'm just being silent.

Anguirel
12-19-2005, 02:12 AM
Awfully sorry about the time confusion Kath and others. Days and Nights now return to (usually) normal length.

However, I will be somewhat late to post the beginning of Night 2 tomorrow-probably doing so at about 5pm GMT-thus giving you a few extra hours to vote.

So far this has been a joy to read-everyone's keeping to their wolvish characters excellently.

EDIT: Another blunder. I mean the beginning of Day 3 and the end of Night 2-ie the second devouring-will be posted a tad late.

Rune Son of Bjarne
12-19-2005, 06:55 AM
I dont think I will be able to post until around 11 pm GMT.

Anguirel
12-19-2005, 07:09 AM
Rather a worrying quantity of those I need names from haven't been in touch and it's in theory an hour till the end of the Day. Do make haste; I can postpone by another hour but any later and I'll have to call on poor Cailin again to jump into the breach.

dancing spawn of ungoliant
12-19-2005, 09:24 AM
I have school this evening (our class is going to theatre) and I don't know how soon I can get back from there. Then of course, I'd like to take a nap and go to school again the next morning, so you'll be seeing me quite little toNight. I should have a few hours before the closing of the voting, but I certainly try to get online before it, too.

WaynetheGoblin
12-20-2005, 06:37 AM
i will tell you now that i will be gone 6 hours a day.

mormegil
12-21-2005, 11:06 AM
I will be around tonight but due to a recent "mini-promotion" at work I will be posting less than is my wont during this night phase.

Farael
12-21-2005, 07:25 PM
I must be quick as I'm already late... I won't be around for quite a few hours now, but I should be back before the voting is done. Just to let you know.

Farael
12-22-2005, 05:09 AM
I should have posted this before, but I have been keeping a bit of a log of my thoughts every night. Writing helps me organize my ideas so I figured I'd keep them just in case I can go back to them later on. Still, if anyone else is keeping logs, it might be quite fun to post them after the game is over. I'm sure mine will be full of wrong suspicions but if anyone is interested the two rules I set for my log is that
-Nothing is deleted, even if I'm proven awfully wrong
-Even the most insignificant idea is worth writing, you never know when a slight suspicion could turn into a vote

Just give me your thoughts on this, for fun's sake I guess.

Gurthang
12-22-2005, 10:46 AM
I don't personally keep notes of my own, but those who do usually give them at the end of the game. It's rather fun to see who had it right towards the beginning and who was 100% certain and was way off. We already know I was 73% certain and was way off! :D

So yes, you're welcome to post you notes/log at the end of the game. Usually people just finish conversation about the game in that individual game thread once it has played to completion.

Anguirel
12-22-2005, 03:16 PM
Chaps, I think we can talk about this later. But I do suggest keeping any notes you make, so we can enjoy them at the end of all things.

For now, back to sleeping or killing!

dancing spawn of ungoliant
12-22-2005, 03:45 PM
Are we going to have a break for Christmas? If so, I'd like to know when.

Meneltarmacil
12-22-2005, 03:49 PM
As stated earlier, I will be gone from December 25-28 and will return the 29th. However, Winter Break for my school has officially started (today was the last school day) so tomorrow I will probably be able to post the whole time rather than being tied to a certain portion of the game.

Anguirel
12-22-2005, 03:59 PM
dancing spawn, yep, we'll observe Gaurhothmas.

Night 4 will begin at 2:00 GMT tomorrow and end at 2:00 GMT Christmas Eve. Day 5 will then last till 2pm GMT Boxing Day. That makes the whole of Christmas and half of Boxing Day days of rest; and if people want the later part of Boxing Day they needn't post in early Night 5.

If the game is still going on the 28th (quite likely) then I'll ask Cailin to take up my tools and finish the job, as I'll be in a remote Irish castle, not unlike Tol-in-Gaurhoth's Tower itself, and about as low on internet access...

Farael
12-23-2005, 10:54 PM
Sorry friends but something I ate has... disagreed with my stomach. I won't stay up tonight, hopefully tomorrow I'll feel better

Gurthang
12-24-2005, 12:33 PM
Well, that was a brilliant game. I don't know if I'll be in the next or not, might depend on it's starting date.

But now I've got a pretty crazy idea, it doesn't have to do a lot with the games themselves, more toward the threads. I'm sure that at least Saucepan will read this and if he thinks its a good idea, then he'll probably pull some strings to get it done.

So we have, at the least, twenty threads specifically for Tol-in-Gaurhoth.

15 WW game threads (including this thread)
2 WWJ game threads
WWJ set-up thread
At least two 'pick-a-team' type threads

What if we put all the Tol-in-Gaurhoth threads in a sub-forum? I know I've tried to go back and look at the old games, but some are rather hard to find. It takes a good three or four searches to pull up all of the games. It would be a lot easier to get at them if they were all there right in front of us in one forum. I don't really know how much work it actually takes to put up a sub-forum, much less move all the threads, but I think it would be a pretty awesome way to have the old games displayed if anyone wanted some interesting reading. So anybody like the idea? Dislike it? Moderators want to shoot me for suggesting more work? ;)

Oddwen
12-24-2005, 08:14 PM
...Or maybe move the completed games to Elvenhome?

Kuruharan
12-24-2005, 10:09 PM
For those who might be interested, here is the score up till now (not counting WWJ).

(Since we recently had some role reversal, I'll use the phrase "The Three" for the you know whos.)

The Three have won 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, and 14 for a total of ten wins.

The Ordos have won 4, 6, 8, 12, and 15 for a total of five.

The Black Beornings have won squat for a total of naught.

We Downers definitely seem to be better at sneaking about and underhanded skull duggery as the ordos have yet to win two games running.

At least, at this moment, they have a foundation to build on.

Lhunardawen
12-26-2005, 01:49 AM
We Downers definitely seem to be better at sneaking about and underhanded skull duggery as the ordos have yet to win two games running.Perhaps if the next game(s) would also be switched...

Farael
12-26-2005, 03:49 AM
Perhaps if the next game(s) would also be switched...
Or maybe we could try even new roles? say, as Orcs might have been 'created' from tortured elves, perhaps a party of orcs got into an elven town? then we'd have maybe Eol as the cobbler, Glorfindel as the ranger, Elrond as the hunter and Galadriel as the seer?

Just thinking out loud here, but let me know what you guys think!

Lhunardawen
12-26-2005, 04:07 AM
The werewolves (almost) always win. So if we keep the werewolves ordinary a few more games, the Ordos will have a better chance catching up with the Three Stoogies. :D

the guy who be short
12-26-2005, 07:02 AM
So...

*TGWBS takes a peek around the thread*

...When is the next game starting? I have an exam soon, which traditionally means I join a WW game. :D

Kuruharan
12-26-2005, 08:29 AM
The werewolves (almost) always win. So if we keep the werewolves ordinary a few more games, the Ordos will have a better chance catching up with the Three Stoogies.

I don't think you're looking at this quite right. The issue (if you think it is an issue) is that we tend to be better as the Three than as Ordos (whether the Ordos be villagers or werewolves). Just making the werewolves ordinary for a few more games will not fix the "issue" at hand. It is just window dressing. The heart of the game is three conspirators vs. everybody else. The context (or if you prefer "the chrome") doesn't really matter to the true dynamic of the game. What that does is make people want to read it for the story.

When is the next game starting?

Hopefully, after the New Year.

Eonwe
12-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Hopefully, after the New Year.

my sentiments exactly!

edited at some point

AbercrombieOfRohan
12-26-2005, 07:33 PM
Or maybe we could try even new roles? say, as Orcs might have been 'created' from tortured elves, perhaps a party of orcs got into an elven town? then we'd have maybe Eol as the cobbler, Glorfindel as the ranger, Elrond as the hunter and Galadriel as the seer?

Keeping in line with the whole idea of role reversal:

I think the newest one should be The Inklings vs. the Science and Math(s) Department. *mock horror* The location would clearly be Oxford, and other than that I'll leave it up to those who know more about Tolkien's peers than I.

And who's modding the next game?

Farael
12-26-2005, 08:30 PM
Keeping in line with the whole idea of role reversal:

I think the newest one should be The Inklings vs. the Science and Math(s) Department. *mock horror* The location would clearly be Oxford, and other than that I'll leave it up to those who know more about Tolkien's peers than I.

And who's modding the next game?


Go Science :mad: You 'Arts' students have to write an essay and cry like a baby... well, even though they are shorter, I have to write (usually more than one) pre-lab exercise, do the lab, write a lab report and if that wasn't enough, a lab exam!!! [/END_RANT]

Thank you

AbercrombieOfRohan
12-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Please pardon! I meant no offense, in fact I didn't (and don't) expect it to be taken seriously by anyone. It was just a new twist on our old game.

Farael
12-27-2005, 02:15 AM
Please pardon! I meant no offense, in fact I didn't (and don't) expect it to be taken seriously by anyone. It was just a new twist on our old game.
None taken! I was just joking around.... every course of studies has its challenges, but as most of my friends are taking arts, I get to rant against them :P no offense meant by my rant either!!

Lhunardawen
12-27-2005, 05:07 AM
I don't think you're looking at this quite right. The issue (if you think it is an issue) is that we tend to be better as the Three than as Ordos (whether the Ordos be villagers or werewolves). Just making the werewolves ordinary for a few more games will not fix the "issue" at hand. It is just window dressing. The heart of the game is three conspirators vs. everybody else. The context (or if you prefer "the chrome") doesn't really matter to the true dynamic of the game. What that does is make people want to read it for the story.I was just trying to be a conspiracy theorist. ;) Maybe we work better as villains (in the perspective of the Free Peoples of Middle-earth), whatever the explanation for that is. In any case, perhaps it's worth a try.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
12-28-2005, 04:38 PM
I miss werewolf...It's been too long since I played! Conveniently, my schedule has recently opened up quite a bit, and that allows me to participate in the next game!

So sign me up, please!

Formendacil
12-29-2005, 02:06 AM
Have we got a Mod yet?

'Twould be foolish to sign up for a game that nobody wants to spearhead...

Gil-Galad
12-29-2005, 04:02 PM
well like i said, i got a hybrid game planned, though it might need alot of people, but i won't get it ready till the new year when i'm less busy with my drama...hopefully...

Kath
12-29-2005, 04:07 PM
So it looks like we need someone to volunteer. What happened to that old list of people who wanted to do it, it had got pretty long as I recall. Perhaps if we offered the game to one of them?

Formendacil
12-29-2005, 04:59 PM
So it looks like we need someone to volunteer. What happened to that old list of people who wanted to do it, it had got pretty long as I recall. Perhaps if we offered the game to one of them?

Actually....

I was on that list. And I was selfishly sitting here, hoping to mod the next round after this... but in hindsight I begin to think that maybe I shall take a crack at it now.

Okay, it's official:

I, Michael A. Joosten, officially known to the Barrow-Downs as the Lord Formendacil, do herewith put forward my name to moderate the 16th game of Tol-in-Gaurhoth.

Meneltarmacil
12-29-2005, 05:06 PM
And I would like to participate in the next game, whoever is running it. (my occupation will depend on the situation we're in)

Kath
12-29-2005, 05:22 PM
Guilting people into things is fun :p I'll have to miss this game though what with dratted revision.

Cailín
12-29-2005, 05:31 PM
Oh! I would love to join your game, Formendacil, if you'll allow me. :)

Though I feel guilty already, I have not played since the phantom's game - in which I died rather prematurely - and am suffering from major withdrawal symptoms.

Azaelia of Willowbottom
12-29-2005, 05:55 PM
Oh good, now we have a mod, and so I can officially sign up!

Count me in for this round, Form! ;)

Formendacil
12-30-2005, 12:38 AM
Oh! I would love to join your game, Formendacil, if you'll allow me. :)

'Twould be shameful of me not too. You're in.

Though I feel guilty already, I have not played since the phantom's game - in which I died rather prematurely - and am suffering from major withdrawal symptoms.

Shame!

Okay, so we have:

Cailin
Azaelia
Meneltarmacil

... thus far. And I have, for better, worse, or indifference, assumed the role of modular (to "borrow" an inappropriate adjective) tyranny.

I am planning on waiting a while to start the game. I'm thinking of a January 7thish start. And yes, that is over a week from now, but I want to wait until people have settled back into their post-holiday lives, and not have to worry about travelling, or relatives, or any of that inconvenient stuff.

Please keep that starting time in mind if you want to join. Also, if anyone thinks that's too long to wait, and wants to mod a game, starting sooner, then I'll gladly step down and take the next turn. Seriously, I wouldn't mind.