Password

[Nerwen]

To clarify- as with my last one, the password is the theme. (Recall that the Nimrodel is a tributary of a tributary of the Anduin).

So, by popular demand, let's tackle #2.

6. NIMRODEL. Nimrod = hunter, plus the Spanish word el. Nimrodel is a woman (her) as well as a thing (a river), (it).

Hmmm ... although I'm not 100% sure about Dale, I'm sensing a connection with water. Nimrodel and Argonath have river connections, and Dale is on or near a lake, I think?

But then, Moria could work for 2 if it's a literal tumbling and a literal (dwarf) short chieftain (and Dale sort of could as well).

Ok so

A Short Chieftain Tumbled, here.

Nindalf

A short chieftain
Gandalf shortened to Dalf

Tumbled
Well plenty of soldiers fell in the Dead marshes which is part of Nindalf...

The comma is throwing me off but I feel here just completes the grammatical sentence? Also indicates the answer is a place.
Not Dale or Nindalf. The "short chieftain" is literal; "tumbling" is not. The comma is just to emphasize that the answer is a place (it's not grammatically required).

[Pervinca Took]

Could the third one be DEAGOL? He was killed untimely, if not due to mistaken identity, like Beleg, and whilst on a fishing trip on the ANDUIN, and the first part of his name is almost 'deal,' so it attempts a bargain.

Also, he's observant as he found the Ring? Although I think that was probably luck (and in the event very bad luck, for him).

Err ... can a LOG be an observation? (Trying to account for the letters).

[Pervinca Took]

NAROG has NAR, but it's from the wrong age, so didn't coexist with the Anduin. Unless not all previous waterways were destroyed in the War of Wrath.

There is actually a river NORBOURN in the Shire, which has the first three letters of Nori ... but he wasn't really a chieftain, and I can't account for the remaining letters.

[Nerwen]

Yes, it is DEAGOL. You are right about "bargain"; "attempt" however, refers to the word "go", made from the remaining letters. For the other part- Deagol is "observant" because he found the Ring and also because he is described as "sharper-eyed" (than Deagol). He is in the "Beleg club" due to having been killed by a close friend.

For N- no, it is not Narog or Norbourn. The Shire is extremely relevant however (though the answer is not in the Shire).


ARGONATH: Fabled vessel and preposition mingle, with monumental results.
N A short chieftain tumbled, here.
DEAGOL: Stir up to disclose observant member of Beleg club.
U Await continental upheaval. May not be over your head.
I Being sensational- disturb to reveal him.
NIMRODEL: Hunter adds a touch of Spain to find her- and it.

[Pervinca Took]

If it's crucially connected with the Shire but not in it, how about NENUIAL? (Lake Evendim). I don't think the short chieftain can be a dwarf, though .... The first three letters of leader are in there, but ....

It's also 'lieutenant' minus three letters, but for 'short' I'd expect to lop the letters off the beginning or the end.

[Nerwen]

No, it's not a dwarf. There are other undersized people in Middle-earth...

As for the actual answer- remember, the theme/password is ANDUIN. All the answers have some connection to that.

[Pervinca Took]

The NAITH ('Thain' tumbled). It's between the Anduin and the Celebrant.

I was put off looking for hobbits because I thought the chieftain element started with N. Nob is the only hobbit whose name starts with an N (I know this from when I put together my All Tooks password).

...

INGWE is almost an anagram of 'being.' (And weeing). :D

[Galadriel55]

U = UNDEEPS, the bends in Anduin? Can't put it together, but an un-deep place may not be quite tall enough to go over one's head.

[Pervinca Took]

Ah, yes ... I suppose await would be 'pend' and the continental bit would be the EU.

[Mithalwen]

ISILDUR - anagram of is (being) and lurid (sensational)?

[Nerwen]

All correct! Well done, everyone!:)

ARGONATH: Fabled vessel and preposition mingle, with monumental results.
NAITH: A short chieftain tumbled, here.
DEAGOL: Attempt bargain. Stir up to disclose observant member of Beleg club.
UNDEEP: Await continental upheaval. May not be over your head.
ISILDUR: Being sensational- disturb to reveal him.
NIMRODEL: Hunter adds a touch of Spain to find her- and it.

[Pervinca Took]

All correct! Well done, everyone!:)

ARGONATH: Fabled vessel and preposition mingle, with monumental results.
NAITH: A short chieftain tumbled, here.
DEAGOL: Stir up to disclose observant member of Beleg club.
UNDEEP: Await continental upheaval. May not be over your head.
ISILDUR: Being sensational- disturb to reveal him.
NIMRODEL: Hunter adds a touch of Spain to find her- and it.

'Attempt bargain' has been accidentally deleted from the Deagol clue, I think. ;)

[Nerwen]

'Attempt bargain' has been accidentally deleted from the Deagol clue, I think. ;)
It has indeed. Just a moment...

[Pervinca Took]

So ... Morsul is the next password setter, according to the rules. :)

[Morsul the Dark]

Are you sure I contributed nothing. I'd be fine passing. If you insist I'm sure I can come up with something.

[Pervinca Took]

It's Nerwen's decision, I guess, but you did name the correct password.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. A cheesey town
2.Ancient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Larvae to some, yet fond of Fungus and dogs
4. Saloon, a shortened arm, and master, yet forgetful.
5. Sounds presumptuous, or something like it, for this scruff man to ask reward.
6. Father with double walkers. Gossiped with pork product.
7. Absurdly simple, these cause long delays.
8. A underhanded throw to a long fish would be more appealing than she is.

1. Bree
2. Old Man Willow
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Daddy Twofoot
7. Inns
8. Lobelia

Might be obnoxiously easy or incredibly difficult we'll see...

[Nerwen]

#3 is MAGGOT, I think?

[Mithalwen]

BREE for the cheesey town? Like Brie?

[Pervinca Took]

Saw Bree, but Mith already has it! :)

Although short-cuts make long delays, it's RIDDLES that Gandalf calls absurdly simple, and they cause delays more than once?

8. A guess at LOBELIA, because 'lob' is throw and there is the sound of 'eel,' but the whole answer is more 'long' than that?

Kind of messes up my idea of Bamfurlong for the password, though. ;)

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Bree
2.Ancient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Maggot
4. Saloon, a shortened arm, and master, yet forgetful.
5. Sounds presumptuous, or something like it, for this scruff man to ask reward.
6. Father with double walkers. Gossiped with pork product.
7. Absurdly simple, these cause longer delays.
8. Lobelia

Might be obnoxiously easy or incredibly difficult we'll see...

Peevinca you're very close to the answer for seven. Slight modification to seven.

[Pervinca Took]

4. BARLIMAN is forgetful, and master to Nob and Bob: saloon = bar, lim = shortened limb/arm ... but I can't account for the AN.

[Pervinca Took]

Is 7 short cuts, then, because short cuts are supposed to be a simpler way of getting somewhere? (And Frodo and company's short-cut is absurd/disastrous).

Or because it's a simple/straight clue, whereas most clues here are cryptic?

[Pervinca Took]

5. Again, I can't account for every letter, but ARAGORN is a scruff as Strider, a man, and his name sounds like arrogant (presumptuous).

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Bree
2.Ancient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Father with double walkers. Gossiped with pork product.
7. Absurdly simple, these cause longer delays.
8. Lobelia

Might be obnoxiously easy or incredibly difficult we'll see...

Making quick work of these. Short-cuts do make long delays but something causes longer ones

[Pervinca Took]

Oh ... INNS!

[Pervinca Took]

6. Daddy Twofoot, who gossiped with Hamfast, the Gaffer?

So ... BOMBADIL?

Edit: I remember now that Hamfast is sometimes abbreviated to Ham, (as Samwise is to Sam), so 'fast' doesn't need to be accounted for.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Bree
2.OAncient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Daddy Twofoot
7. Inns
8. Lobelia


Pervinca's got it. The last clue I think is closest to traditional form.
The theme as best I could make it is the Flight from the Shire.

[Pervinca Took]

Ah, so if that's the theme, maybe it's Old Man Willow? I had old and will, but was looking for a one word name.

Great theme. :) I found the early part of the book too slow the first time round, but I love it now. Because Frodo hasn't yet lost the Shire at this point. :(

Ah ... OW for the loud exclamation, I think Willow Man sings to send his victims to sleep, and MAN is homme/hombre?

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Bree
2. Old Man Willow
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Daddy Twofoot
7. Inns
8. Lobelia


On to you, my friend

Perfect explanation for Old man willow

[Pervinca Took]

That was a great password. I didn't see Bombadil at all until I realised 4 must be Daddy Twofoot.

I have some passwords ready, but they're on my laptop, not my phone, so just a few minutes and I'll post one.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
2. Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
3. Post confused regarding her.
4. He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
5. Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders, loses direction and even meets a motorway! All within the place of the real hemlock glade - but lose a sibilant to reveal him.


EDIT: Last clue edited, to match the CORRECT spelling that I hadn't provided. ;)

[Morsul the Dark]

Brooklyn prostitute... words I've never thought I'd see on the Downs.

But somehow I'm thinking Vivian Ward from Pretty Woman. But not sure where to go from there

[Pervinca Took]

The prostitute character is from a film, but not Pretty Woman. A much darker film, with Brooklyn in the title. I've only seen bits of it. As Sam would say, 'It gave me the shivers.'

EDIT: Morsul, do you think the solved Bombadil password could have the clues put back, so we can see what the answers referred to?

[Morsul the Dark]

4. Alatar anagram of Tralala.

Added clues back

[Pervinca Took]

1. Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
2. Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
3. Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
5. Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders within the place of the real hemlock glade. Lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Correct - Tralala gets confused, and also loses one of her L's (L = left, a direction).

Apparently 'Last Exit To Brooklyn' was a novel first.

Thanks for putting the clues back! :)

[Galadriel55]

Morsul, that was a great password! I'm sorry I missed the whole thing. And I know themed aren't necessary, but I like themed passwords better, it's like an extra clue that you work in.

3. Is there a character called Ilma? That's the only good sounding name I can get from scrambling mail around. Thought I'd check before I search for other synonyms.

[Galadriel55]

Arien for bright girl? Nar and ie confused.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
ARIEN: Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
3. Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
5. Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders within the place of the real hemlock glade. Lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Arien is correct, and for the reasons you state. Nar is specifically referred to as an old dwarf.

Right synonym and right unscrambling. There is a character whose name *begins* with ILMA. If you look carefully, though, there's a little bit more to add, AFTER the scrambled bit.

[Morsul the Dark]

Ilmare

Mail scrambled
RE regarding a common Mail description

That would make

1.
2.A
3.I
4.A
5.

Since they're all in some way related I'm going with MAIAR only Tolkien word I can think of with that pattern.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Meliean

Yeah.... I don't get the second part of the clue but I kept circling melon as a anagram of lemon then got to lime for meliean

[Pervinca Took]

MELIAN: Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
ARIEN: Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
ILMARE: Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
R: Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders within the place of the real hemlock glade. Lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Yes, this password has a theme, and the answer is MAIAR.

Re = short for regarding: hence ILMARE.

Slight mis-spelling of MELIAN ;)


You got the two correct citrus fruits, and the correct end result, but it was two separate clues leading to the same answer.

1. LIME confused = MELI, plus AN, a word Shakespeare often used to mean 'if.' Example:

'Get up, get up, an you be a man!' (The Nurse in 'Romeo and Juliet').

2. LEMON confused gives MELON. Exchange the Westron exclamation O for the elvish one, AI (as in 'Ai! Ai! A Balrog!'), but reflect it (put it in backwards). Hence: MELIAN.

EDIT: Aragorn asked for a reward - to become Frodo's companion! Of course. (Referring to one of Morsul's 'Bombadil' clues).

[Morsul the Dark]

Indeed asking for a reward was the straight clue.

Flora wrote a book of poetry "Still Glides the Stream" so I'll be working from there...

[Pervinca Took]

Correct starting point. (It's prose, though. I've read it).

[Nerwen]

Is there anyone it can be except Radagast?

[Pervinca Took]

Yes. There's another that has 2 names. Try 'Tolkien Gateway.'

[Nerwen]

Okay, it gives Rómestámo as an alternative name for Pallando, and I can see how that could work with the clues: stream + Roos, which is apparently the site of the "original" hemlock glade.

You really had me wondering if Durin's Bane was secretly known as Ralph (or something).:Merisu:

[Pervinca Took]

MELIAN: Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
ARIEN: Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
ILMARE: Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
ROMESTAMO: Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders, loses direction and even meets a motorway! All within the place of the real hemlock glade - but lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Correct! 'Roos' on the outside (where Edith sang and danced for Ronald), lose the sibilant (s), and 'stream' 'meanders' within it.

Well done all, and over to Morsul again! :)

EDIT: Romestamo clue edited, to match the CORRECT spelling that I hadn't provided. ;)

[Galadriel55]

Сan you explain Melian? Lime - okay, but Shakespeare and Elvish?

[Pervinca Took]

For Galadriel:



1. LIME confused = MELI, plus AN, a word Shakespeare often used to mean 'if.' Example:

'Get up, get up, an you be a man!' (The Nurse in 'Romeo and Juliet').

2. LEMON confused gives MELON. Exchange the Westron exclamation O for the elvish one, AI (as in 'Ai! Ai! A Balrog!'), but reflect it (put it in backwards). Hence: MELIAN.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. MushroomsI hear Ample Space is needed to find these jolly fellows.
2. Ent-Drought Gone without direction. They make this sweet beverage. Perhaps that's just a taller tale.
3. ApplesSnow White and Bill Ferney fear these.
4. TatersThey've been chipped and mashed but at the root, are still hearty.

&

5. DaintiesFilling the corners is easier if you have these.
6. RabbitThis is a Jewish teacher to a T. Caught by sneaking.
7. IsengardThree hunters meet their prey and sit together in this watery place.
8. NobA door cannot be opened without one, nor mead served without him.
9. KingsfoilRoyal aluminum, with no useful properties, well maybe?

Yes the password is a short phrase

[Nerwen]

Gosh, we're really zipping through these now, aren't we?

I believe #3 & #6 are APPLE and RABBIT?

[Pervinca Took]

4. Taters

2. Eggnog

7. Isengard?

[Morsul the Dark]

1. I hear Ample Space is needed to find these jolly fellows.
2. Gone without direction. They make this sweet beverage. Perhaps that's just a taller tale.
3. Apple-Snow White and Bill Ferney fear these.
4. They've been chipped and mashed but at the root, are still hearty.

&

5. Filling the corners is easier if you have these.
6.Rabbit-This is a Jewish teacher to a T. Caught by sneaking.
7. Three hunters meet their prey and sit together in this watery place.
8. A door cannot be opened without one, nor mead served without him.
9. Royal aluminum, with no useful properties, well maybe?


Pervinca all three are Super close. Two are just other versions of the words.

[Galadriel55]

Ah, thanks Pervinca!

[Pervinca Took]

Damn! I've pressed Edit intead of Quote AGAIN!

So, I first suggested Potatoes, Nog and Orthanc.

Then, after Morsul's feedback, I tried Taters, Eggnog and Isengard.

And very nice there were too, although Isengard was a bit chewy.

P.S. You're welcome, Galadriel. :)

Actually, I would re-edit Eggnog to Eggs, because no-one drinks or mentions Eggnog in the books, I think. (Unless it's consumed in The Father Christmas Letters).

[Pervinca Took]

Is it MEAT & DRINK ... the way food and drink are sometimes referred to in Middle-earth?

I think the one about the door and mead might be Nob.

Ooohhhh ... kingsfoil?

[Pervinca Took]

I think I know the other 2 as well, but will hold back for now.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. MI hear Ample Space is needed to find these jolly fellows.
2. EGone without direction. They make this sweet beverage. Perhaps that's just a taller tale.
3. ApplesSnow White and Bill Ferney fear these.
4. TatersThey've been chipped and mashed but at the root, are still hearty.

&

5. DFilling the corners is easier if you have these.
6. RabbitThis is a Jewish teacher to a T. Caught by sneaking.
7. IsengardThree hunters meet their prey and sit together in this watery place.
8. NobA door cannot be opened without one, nor mead served without him.
9. KingsfoilRoyal aluminum, with no useful properties, well maybe?


A few left but the Password is revealed.

[Galadriel55]

1. Mushrooms - as in much room?

[Morsul the Dark]

Indeed

[Pervinca Took]

And hobbits eat DAINTIES to fill up the corners.

Was EGGS wrong? Is the tall tale to do with eggs-aggeration?

[Morsul the Dark]

Eggs is incorrect no eggs involved.

Dainties is correct will update

[Pervinca Took]

ENTS, with their ent-draughts that make you tall?

(Edited because at first I put *elves* (who make miruvor).

[Morsul the Dark]

1. MushroomsI hear Ample Space is needed to find these jolly fellows.
2. Ent-Drought Gone without direction. They make this sweet beverage. Perhaps that's just a taller tale.
3. ApplesSnow White and Bill Ferney fear these.
4. TatersThey've been chipped and mashed but at the root, are still hearty.

&

5. DaintiesFilling the corners is easier if you have these.
6. RabbitThis is a Jewish teacher to a T. Caught by sneaking.
7. IsengardThree hunters meet their prey and sit together in this watery place.
8. NobA door cannot be opened without one, nor mead served without him.
9. KingsfoilRoyal aluminum, with no useful properties, well maybe?

Yes the password is a short phrase

Also Gone without direction
Went without w
Sent without s

Either way
Over to you

[Pervinca Took]

Went! And there was me fixated on East and Eggnog. :D

You are all setting the bar very high. See if you like this one:

1. Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
2. He’s a great laugh, however confused.
3. Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
4. Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
5. Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
6. Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
7. Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

P.S. I spelled 'Romestamo' wrong on my last password, so I will go back and adjust the clue. I had the second 'm' as an 'r.' Sorry about that.

[Nerwen]

Went! And there was me fixated on East and Eggnog. :D

You are all setting the bar very high. See if you like this one:

1. Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
2. He’s a great laugh, however confused.
3. Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
4. Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
5. Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
6. Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
7. Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

P.S. I spelled 'Romestamo' wrong on my last password, so I will go back and adjust the clue. I had the second 'm' as an 'r.' Sorry about that.
And wasn't I tactful, in not pointing that out?;)

[Pervinca Took]

Married to Celeborn, I guess you have to be! :D

I have now edited ROMESTAMO and its clue on the opening and closing posts of my last password. The in-between ones I have left, as penance for my idiocy. ;)

[Mithalwen]

Is 1 Hamfast? Hama + F. (A note) + a s (ain) t ?

[Pervinca Took]

Indeed it is! There are already two A's from HAMA, so after putting in F (a note), just add ST, the abbreviation for 'saint.' (Which you did, pretty much).

HAMFAST: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
2. He’s a great laugh, however confused.
3. Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
4. Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
5. Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
6. Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
7. Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

[Mithalwen]

Of course.. silly of me..one of those ones where I hit the right answer changing track and lost track.

[Mithalwen]

Is 3 Bilbo? I think his song was lazy LOB which scrambled with the first two letter of BIdding give the spider killer's name.

[Pervinca Took]

HAMFAST: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
2. He’s a great laugh, however confused.
BILBO: Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
4. Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
5. Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
6. Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
7. Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

[Mithalwen]

Sorry to hog this...Saradoc for 7? Anagram of ADO. As in Much ado about nothing featuring Hero and Claudius and SCAR.

[Morsul the Dark]

2. Olo lol but confused

Ps: I have noooo idea where you got eggs or eggnog from I was entirely confused.

Pps: HOBBITS.

[Pervinca Took]

Hamfast: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
O: He’s a great laugh, however confused.
Bilbo: Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
B: Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
I: Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
T: Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
Saradoc: Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

Not Olo (is there an Olo?), but the right method and thinking. It's 'a great laugh' in a slightly different sense.

'Gone without direction.' Took 'E' (east) from 'gone' to get 'nog,' because eggs are used to make the sweet drink 'eggnog' (I don't remember ent-draught being sweet, but maybe it does say so, or sweet here means good to drink?) The answers all seemed to be edible, and you had implied all 3 of my answers were close, so I thought it must be eggs, which are eaten in Middle-earth (Bilbo dreams of bacon and eggs). Not as significant in the stories as rabbits, apples or taters, but I thought maybe it was just hard to find a comestible starting with E. (I guess kingsfoil might be drunk as an 'infusion for headaches,' but I thought the afflicted person probably bathed the affected part of the head with it).

P.S. Have copied Morsul's way of bolding whole answer, because it looks good.

P.P.S. Well done both!

[Mithalwen]

Oh that helps. Going for BELLADONNA for second B. Anagram of abandon and ell

[Pervinca Took]

Hamfast: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
O: He’s a great laugh, however confused.
Bilbo: Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
Belladonna: Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
I: Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
T: Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
Saradoc: Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

[Nerwen]

O for OTHO? ("Hoot" = slang for "laugh").

T for TOBOLD? (With "bowl" as the utensil).

[Pervinca Took]

Hamfast: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
Otho: He’s a great laugh, however confused.
Bilbo: Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
Belladonna: Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
I: Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
Tobold: Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
Saradoc: Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

And that is probably the only circumstance in which I would use the 'pipe' icon! (In fact, is there an explanation page for the Downs' icons anywhere?)

Correct answers, Nerwen, but TOBOLD does not come from bowl. It's TOOL for utensil, divided in the middle by a plosive (B), then finished with a dental plosive (D).

Anagram of 'hoot' is the correct thinking for 'Otho.'

[Morsul the Dark]

Isembard Took?

Starts with I
Has "me"
Bard... gloin and the others sang?

[Nerwen]

Hamfast: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
Otho: He’s a great laugh, however confused.
Bilbo: Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
Belladonna: Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
I: Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
Tobold: Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
Saradoc: Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

And that is probably the only circumstance in which I would use the 'pipe' icon! (In fact, is there an explanation page for the Downs' icons anywhere?)

Correct answers, Nerwen, but TOBOLD does not come from bowl. It's TOOL for utensil, divided in the middle by a plosive (B), then finished with a dental plosive (D).

Anagram of 'hoot' is the correct thinking for 'Otho.'
Silly me! I was puzzled by your use of "divide", but I couldn't think of anything else that made sense at all.

[Pervinca Took]

Isembard Took?

Starts with I
Has "me"
Bard... gloin and the others sang?

Not Isembard. Everyone sings in Middle-earth. ;)

What are dwarves close to, profession-wise?

[Morsul the Dark]

Isengrim.
Miners
G
I

[Pervinca Took]

Hamfast: Slain warrior-guard gains note before meeting sanctified one. Now see him, clearly.
Otho: He’s a great laugh, however confused.
Bilbo: Being melodic, lazy spider starts bidding, starts spinning, then reveals his killer!
Belladonna: Desert old measure in confusion for a feisty girl.
Isengrim: Gloin, initially, but joins first person and others of his profession to mingle for one highborn.
Tobold: Plosive divides utensil; dental plosive completes him.
Saradoc: Claudio and Hero’s trouble - though not much – still acquires the legacy of a wound. All are shaken before he is revealed.

Correct! Over to you.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. AragornPirates' greeting and oak seed reveal the long legs of this man.
2. RadagastSkaters' "tubular" leaves a fright. Especially with the rabbit sled
3. TharkunWhere the white whale blows, and this garbage bandit would reveal this wanderer.
4. AiwendilLegolas sees a Balrog! What Timing? And after that, pickles. At least birds like him.
5. NerwenA bookworm questions time. She can help you reflect.
6. IncanusOut won't you? What is this? Opposite Day?
7. Strider. He's a tough guy, when it comes to trouble he takes it in step... or something like that.

[Pervinca Took]

4. Legolas sees a Balrog! What Timing? And after that, pickles. At least birds like him.

Ai + when + dill? (if dill is a pickle).

Aiwendil, who is a friend to birds and beasts?

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Pirates' greeting and oak seed reveal the long legs of this man.
2. Skaters' "tubular" leaves a fright. Especially with the rabbit sled
3. Where the white whale blows, and this garbage bandit would reveal this wanderer.
4. AiwendilLegolas sees a Balrog! What Timing? And after that, pickles. At least birds like him.
5. A bookworm questions time. She can help you reflect.
6. Out won't you? What is this? Opposite Day?
7. He's a tough guy, when it comes to trouble he takes it in step... or something like that.

I honestly thought that was the hardest one! Great work!

[Pervinca Took]

1. Pirates' greeting and oak seed reveal the long legs of this man.

Not sure how we lose the c, but AR + ACORN almost gives us ARAGORN (called Longshanks by Bill Ferny).

[Pervinca Took]

I honestly thought that was the hardest one! Great work!

I used the elvish exclamation in one of my last clues (the Melian one), and I also looked at lots of Maiar as that was both the password and the theme.

[Pervinca Took]

2 may be RADAGAST because of AGHAST and the rabbit sled, but I don't know about the tubular leaves.

A guess at ARTANIS for the password?

[Morsul the Dark]

1. AragornPirates' greeting and oak seed reveal the long legs of this man.
2. Skaters' "tubular" leaves a fright. Especially with the rabbit sled
3. Where the white whale blows, and this garbage bandit would reveal this wanderer.
4. AiwendilLegolas sees a Balrog! What Timing? And after that, pickles. At least birds like him.
5. A bookworm questions time. She can help you reflect.
6. Out won't you? What is this? Opposite Day?
7. He's a tough guy, when it comes to trouble he takes it in step... or something like that.

Aragorn is correct. For most of my clues I like getting you close and there's a slight logic leap. Aracorn > Aragorn. For me to try to swap the c with clues is confusing.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. AragornPirates' greeting and oak seed reveal the long legs of this man.
2. RadagastSkaters' "tubular" leaves a fright. Especially with the rabbit sled
3. TWhere the white whale blows, and this garbage bandit would reveal this wanderer.
4. AiwendilLegolas sees a Balrog! What Timing? And after that, pickles. At least birds like him.
5. NA bookworm questions time. She can help you reflect.
6. IOut won't you? What is this? Opposite Day?
7. SHe's a tough guy, when it comes to trouble he takes it in step... or something like that.

Skater Tubular "Rad"

Password is correct. Radagast may also help reveal the theme.

[Pervinca Took]

Is N Nerwen? I presume our own Nerwen is a bookworm. And there is w(h)en for questioning time. Perhaps the 'reflect' bit refers to how the name is almost a palindrome.

[Pervinca Took]

I think Rad is German for bicycle, but what exactly is the Tubular Rad?

[Morsul the Dark]

Tubular and Rad are slang for cool usually associated with surfers and skaters.

Also Nerwen is correct
Nerd When
Reflect for her mirror

Fahrrad (spelling?) is German for bicycle. Rad could be short for bike though?

[Pervinca Took]

Well, there are two characters who appear twice, with two of their names. Could the theme be pairs of names - four characters, each appearing twice, under different names?

[Morsul the Dark]

Well, there are two characters who appear twice, with two of their names. Could the theme be pairs of names - four characters, each appearing twice, under different names?

It is

[Pervinca Took]

OK ... I was trying to make Telcontar or Thorongil work for T, but I now think that one belongs with the other pair.

The guy who takes it in step is Strider, I think.

The 'opposites' guy could be Incanus (3 opposites in a row).

The 'garbage bandit' could be rat, which is in Tharkun as well as Telcontar, which I thought of originally.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. AragornPirates' greeting and oak seed reveal the long legs of this man.
2. RadagastSkaters' "tubular" leaves a fright. Especially with the rabbit sled
3. TharkunWhere the white whale blows, and this garbage bandit would reveal this wanderer.
4. AiwendilLegolas sees a Balrog! What Timing? And after that, pickles. At least birds like him.
5. NerwenA bookworm questions time. She can help you reflect.
6. IncanusOut won't you? What is this? Opposite Day?
7. Strider. He's a tough guy, when it comes to trouble he takes it in step... or something like that.

Great job!

Though garbage bandit was raccoon kun.

I'm either not good at riddles or you're very good! Let's go with that one. I soooo wanted to use Sharkey but couldn't make it work.

Over to you my friend! :)

[Pervinca Took]

That's three brilliant passwords you've set!

What was the white whale element, though?

I am having similar issues trying to produce themed passwords. Sometimes you have to compromise.

[Morsul the Dark]

Thar she blows. Moby Dick

[Pervinca Took]

Ah - I didn't know or had forgotten that Moby Dick was a white whale.

Try this one:

1. Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
2. Craftsman reforms her.
3. Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
4. Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
5. He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

[Nerwen]

#2 is ARTANIS, I think? (Anagram of "artisan").

[Pervinca Took]

Correct!

1. Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
ARTANIS: Craftsman reforms her.
3. Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
4. Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
5. He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

[Nerwen]

And #5 is RADAGAST? (R.A.D.A. + "gast" = "guest" in German). Only I don't see where the last part of the clue comes into it...:confused:

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
ARTANIS: Craftsman reforms her.
3. Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
4. Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
TSAGADAR: He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

You are quite right. Running back is because it appears backwards, and overshooting by one place is because that's what the answer does. It's the S that is part of the password. I hope the spaces I have put in work ....

Alas, they haven't. But it's every first letter of the first four answers and the second letter of the fifth. I tried to space the other clues along to get the two bolded letters lined up, but it won't display them that way.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
ARTANIS: Craftsman reforms her.
3. Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
4. Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
TSAGADAR: He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

You are quite right. Running back is because it appears backwards, and overshooting by one place is because that's what the answer does. It's the S that is part of the password. I hope the spaces I have put in work ....

Alas, they haven't. But it's every first letter of the first four answers and the second letter of the fifth. I tried to space the other clues along to get the two bolded letters lined up, but it won't display them that way.
So this doesn't get buried...

Elrond for the first? Has some letters in common with dragon losing the G could be the weight because of grams...

[Pervinca Took]

You are right about losing a G (for the weight bit), but you need to start with a *particular* dragon.

I might add that all the answers are ridiculously unobscure. ;) Artanis was the most obscure, (and only because of the version of her name used).

[Morsul the Dark]

Smaug ran
Saruman

[Pervinca Took]

Yes! :)

SARUMAN: Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
ARTANIS: Craftsman reforms her.
3. Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
4. Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
TSAGADAR: He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

[Pervinca Took]

There is a theme, by the way. :)

[Galadriel55]

I can almost make Bregalad from glad and "little" Frances, but the B ruins it all.

[Pervinca Took]

GLAD is correct.

There is a diminutive of Frances that used to be very common. Keats's sweetheart was called by it - and his sister too, I think. Also Lizzy Bennet's mother.

Shorten the diminutive again, and you get the name Ebenezer Scrooge called his sister by (the mother of his nephew Fred).

[Morsul the Dark]

I know the password.

So I knew it wasGandalf
But couldn't figure out how it fit
Glad and Fan. Gandalf.

I could also wager a guess at the last clue but based on the password. No I'm not saying it because my brain hurts to much to make more riddles:p

[Pervinca Took]

SARUMAN: Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
ARTANIS: Craftsman reforms her.
GANDALF: Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
4. Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
TSAGADAR: He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

You can always say the password but pass on writing the next one, if you haven't time at the moment.

Making them themed is difficult, although a rewarding challenge. A theme is a wonderful extra, though, not an obligation.

[Morsul the Dark]

Sages

Which makes the last answer Elrond but can't figure out the actual clue.

[Pervinca Took]

SARUMAN: Dragon ran in confusion, but lost a little weight for him.
ARTANIS: Craftsman reforms her.
GANDALF: Happy little Frances mixes up for him.
ELROND: Cockney without denial? A touch of spin, though. See him!
TSAGADAR: He runs back from drama school to a German guest, but overshoots by one place!

Where do Cockneys live? And what word do we often use when we deny something?

[Morsul the Dark]

England
e. L. Nd
-nag?

[Pervinca Took]

;)

'Londoner' minus 'no.'

[Morsul the Dark]

Don't think I would have gotten there...

[Morsul the Dark]

1. ShireYour Higness, to use a similar title, we've arrived in these green lands.
2. AnduinAlso you enter, the river where one fled and one followed.
3. MoriaGreater abundance lies with the Vowels of the Earth it sounds like, too deep though.
4. Wife Galadriel to Celeborn
5. Imladris In a dream this place was spoke, in this place all are healed.
6. SmeagelUnwanted companion, sounds like an elemental being
7. ElvesLose a part of your own being. After all there are many, and asight to behold.

[Pervinca Took]

5. Imladris? (That name is used in the poem/song that Boromir recites, rather than Rivendell).

4. Wife?

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Your Higness, to use a similar title, we've arrived in these green lands.
2. Also you enter, the river where one fled and one followed.
3. Greater abundance lies with the Vowels of the Earth it sounds like, too deep though.
4. Wife Galadriel to Celeborn
5. Imladris In a dream this place was spoke, in this place all are healed.
6. Unwanted companion, sounds like an elemental being
7. Lose a part of your own being. After all there are many, and asight to behold.

Correct on both

[Pervinca Took]

A guess at Samwise for the password?

[Morsul the Dark]

Not too obvious right?;)

[Pervinca Took]

Does that mean I'm wrong? ;)

[Pervinca Took]

I thought it might have been Entwife, to be fair. Or Elfwine. ;)

2. And-U-in = ANDUIN? Frodo fled down it, and Samwise followed.

1. Sir + he = SHIRE?

[Pervinca Took]

6. I think this might be Smeagol. It seems likely that there might be a chemical element that sounds like Smeagol, but I can't think of it.

Unless it's 'sounds like seagull.' Seagulls have VERY elemental habits. (Anyone who has lived by the sea and been crapped on by one in mid-flight will know this).

[Pervinca Took]

Oh - MORIA? Sound of 'more' plus the sounds of 'E' and 'A,' which are the two vowels in the word 'Earth.'

(EDIT: And Moria is very deep).

[Morsul the Dark]

1. ShireYour Higness, to use a similar title, we've arrived in these green lands.
2. AnduinAlso you enter, the river where one fled and one followed.
3. MoriaGreater abundance lies with the Vowels of the Earth it sounds like, too deep though.
4. Wife Galadriel to Celeborn
5. Imladris In a dream this place was spoke, in this place all are healed.
6. SmeagelUnwanted companion, sounds like an elemental being
7. ELose a part of your own being. After all there are many, and asight to behold.

Elemental Beings Golem>Gollum then if you have the password it's just a simple switch to his other name

[Pervinca Took]

7. Elves. ;) Lose a letter from 'selves,' for a folk 'wondrous fair' to behold. Still many of them in the first two Ages.

Or, if 'your own being' indicates the singular, I guess it's ELF, from 'self.'

[Morsul the Dark]

Onward and upward :D you've got it!

[Pervinca Took]

A great password - elf/elves was my favourite clue! :) All the answers could be connected to Samwise, too.

Here's one I made earlier:

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
2. It betrays in the roundest manner.
3. Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
5. Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
7. Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
8. Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
9. Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
10. Happy days, and light ones.

[Morsul the Dark]

1. Horses?
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

[Pervinca Took]

Good idea, but no. The answer to number one is from an actual sentence in 'The Hobbit.'

[Nerwen]

Is #8 ARKENSTONE?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
2. It betrays in the roundest manner.
3. Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
5. Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
7. Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
9. Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
10. Happy days, and light ones.

[Nerwen]

Regarding #6- LITHLAD is one letter off being an anagram of "Lalaith", but I'm not sure how to get the a - d swap from the rest of the clue...:confused:

[Pervinca Took]

It's actually much easier than that. For the 'Lalaith' part of the clue, you need not an anagram but a literal translation.

To help you all, none of the answers is a person or a place. :)

[Nerwen]

In the meantime, I think #5 is EMERALD? (Anagram of "leader" + M).

[Nerwen]

And #3 is SILMARIL. ("Ril(ian)" + "smial"). Are the answers all jewels?

[Pervinca Took]

And #3 is SILMARIL. ("Ril(ian)" + "smial"). Are the answers all jewels?

Plus smialS, for SilmarilS. It says hobbit dwellingS. :D

Not all the answers are jewels. I would have liked to keep the theme as tight as that, but it's often not possible to do that and also have the letters form a password. I quite like the way the theme and answers turned out, though. ;)

I trust you located the mariner's emerald? It's mentioned in a song. ;)

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
2. It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
7. Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
9. Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
10. Happy days, and light ones.

[Nerwen]

Plus smialS, for SilmarilS. It says hobbit dwellingS. :D
Yes, I realised that after I'd posted.

Not all the answers are jewels. I would have liked to keep the theme as tight as that, but it's often not possible to do that and also have the letters form a password.

I trust you located the mariner's emerald? It's mentioned in a song. ;)
Of course.

[Nerwen]

Talking of that song, is #9 Night of Naught, or, failing that, something to do with it?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
2. It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
7. Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
10. Happy days, and light ones.

[Galadriel55]

Not a very confident guess, but perhaps Ring for 2?

[Pervinca Took]

Yes, essentially ... but can you give a namesake of it that demonstrates how it betrays? ;)

[Nerwen]

"Precious"?

A long shot- could #7 be LAMPS OF THE VALAR?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
2. It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
10. Happy days, and light ones.

Not 'Precious,' but yes to the Lamps.

[Nerwen]

I thought you might be referring to Gollum offering to swear "on the Precious" and Frodo replying that it was "treacherous".

What about "Isildur's Bane"?

Oh, and another hint for the "Lalaith" one would be much appreciated.:Merisu:

[Nerwen]

What about "Days of Bliss" for #10?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
Isildur's Bane: It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
10. Happy days, and light ones.


10: I think 'Days of Bliss' might actually be another name for the answer I'm looking for, so you are very close.

6. There is something that Gandalf says will be their only reward if they quarrel.

[Nerwen]

"Years of the Trees", then?

By the way, the WW game has resumed- it's a Day phase.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dwarves have never taken to these.
Isildur's Bane: It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
4. Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
6. Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
Years of the Trees: Happy days, and light ones.

[Nerwen]

Sorry for neglecting this in favour of WW, Pervinca. Is the answer "Miscellany?"

[Pervinca Took]

M: Dwarves have never taken to these.
Isildur's Bane: It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
C: Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
L: Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
Years of the Trees: Happy days, and light ones.

[Mithalwen]

Is one matches? I think there is something about them preferring tinderboxes in the Hobbit? But then I thought I had posted this already (my puter sometimes eats posts)

[Pervinca Took]

Matches: Dwarves have never taken to these.
Isildur's Bane: It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
C: Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
L: Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
Years of the Trees: Happy days, and light ones.

Yes indeed! At one point in the story it says that Oin and Gloin have lost their tinder-boxes, (so incandescence clues for Gloin are doubly apt, although I didn't realise it at the time ;)) and then, in brackets, that 'Dwarves have never taken to matches even yet.' There are at least two other references to matches in Middle-earth ... Merry says just before the Scouring that the Shirefolk only need a match, and their rebellion will flare up (metaphorical), and Bilbo looks for his matches under the Misty Mountains and there aren't any (literal).

Doesn't seem to be a previous post, Mith (have checked again). But it doesn't matter now. :)

Just two clues to go. I gave a big hint for the Lalaith one upthread, and for the other one, I would resort to song. ;)

[Nerwen]

I'm guessing the Lalaith one refers to something like "laughter of Mordor" or "laughter of the Enemy", but I haven't been able to find the quote.

[Pervinca Took]

Matches: Dwarves have never taken to these.
Isildur's Bane: It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
C: Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
Laughter of Mordor: Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
Years of the Trees: Happy days, and light ones.

" 'Come, come!' said Gandalf. 'We are all friends here. Or should be; for the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward, if we quarrel.' "

(When they have to hand over their weapons at Theoden's halls and Aragorn does not want to hand over Anduril). (In fact, he has a bit of a tantrum about it, is told he can hand it over or fight everyone in the hall alone, and Gimli says 'Not alone,' or something very similar).

I think I remember it most because of Michael Hordern's voice.

[Pervinca Took]

C: Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner's sword.

C'mon guys! What shields a mariner's sword?

[Nerwen]

C: Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner's sword.

C'mon guys! What shields a mariner's sword?
A scabbard... and I've been thinking it might refer to the line about Eärendil's scabbard being "of chalcedony", but I couldn't make the rest of the clue until it occurred to me that it could be "halcyon" + "dec". Is that it?

[Pervinca Took]

Matches: Dwarves have never taken to these.
Isildur's Bane: It betrays in the roundest manner.
Silmarils: Narnian prince begins to reside in hobbit dwellings? Such a mingling! See them shine!
Chalcedony: Heavenly start to December contrives to shield a mariner’s sword.
Emerald: Leader in disarray gains a thousand: a jewel to adorn a steersman.
Laughter of Mordor: Lalaith in the dark land? Serves quarrellers right, some might say!
Lamps of the Valar: Objects of heavenly beings impersonating Miss Nightingale?
Arkenstone: Sounds like Noah’s vessel cast in granite! Resplendent thing.
Night of Naught: Day’s opposite becomes null, in song.
Years of the Trees: Happy days, and light ones.

Correct answer and reasoning. Well done! And over to you. :)

(Quite what use a quartz scabbard would be to the average soldier I don't know, but it's Earendil's ... all his accessories are shiny and precious and more mythical than practical. And maybe Bilbo imagines half of the precious/semi-precious substances for the poem). (And I really wanted an excuse to have the word chalcedony in a password).

Apologies for the delay. I was writing this reply when the battery ran out, and then was called away on errands.

[Nerwen]

And now I should be the one apologising! Sorry- I've had a busy week.

Anyway-

1. To revive, counsellor's end becomes new beginning.
2. Building blocks? Near-maiden? Isn't he obvious?
3. Wander at this time, in turmoil, to find lost sailor.
4. Feline is confused- but he is dark and perilous!
5. Meanwhile, antelope's cousin is tumbled about and suffused with evil. (No wonder she has a death wish).

[Pervinca Took]

Just a guess, but is 2 INGWE - ING (from building blocks) and WE (nearly 'wen')?

5. AREDHEL? Has 'deer' in it but also nearly spells 'a red hell'?

[Nerwen]

No, but "deer" is correct for #5, and it's basically the right reasoning.

[Pervinca Took]

2. LEGOLAS? ('Lego' + most of 'lass').

A guess at ELVES for the password?

5. SERINDE? My first thought was Miriel, but I couldn't find a deer in her name! How did I forget her other name? ('deer' + 'sin').

3. VORONWE. 'Rove' plus 'now.'

4. Could this be EOL, if Leo (for lion) is the 'feline' element?

[Nerwen]

All correct!:) And yes, "Elves" is the password.

1. To revive, counsellor's end becomes new beginning.
LEGOLAS: Building blocks? Near-maiden? Isn't he obvious?
VORONWË: Wander at this time, in turmoil, to find lost sailor.
EÖL: Feline is confused- but he is dark and perilous!
SERINDË: Meanwhile, antelope's cousin is tumbled about and suffused with evil. (No wonder she has a death wish).

[Pervinca Took]

1. To revive, counsellor's end becomes new beginning.

ERESTOR? 'Rest' for revive, 'or' for the end of counsellor, start of 'end' becomes the beginning for the 'e'?

...

Oh! Anagram of 'restore,' rather than 'rest,' for 'revive.' End of 'restore' becomes beginning of 'Erestor.'

[Nerwen]

You've got it!

ERESTOR: To revive, counsellor's end becomes new beginning.
LEGOLAS: Building blocks? Near-maiden? Isn't he obvious?
VORONWË: Wander at this time, in turmoil, to find lost sailor.
EÖL: Feline is confused- but he is dark and perilous!
SERINDË: Meanwhile, antelope's cousin is tumbled about and suffused with evil. (No wonder she has a death wish).

Over to you.:)

[Pervinca Took]

1. Is he just a mixed up loser?
2. Material for a sailor’s headgear, inspired by Eighties pop icon?
3. Chaotic rain reveals her.
4. Cattle sound changes vowel: spin and see her fly!
5. More agile blow in a whirl here.
6. Ancalagon’s brass instrument? A substance for a sailor’s weapon.
7. Sounds like a sick sailor, without hesitation. A lofty place, indeed.
8. Makeshift dwelling and large river combine for a maiden.

[Nerwen]

I think #3 and #4 are RIAN (anagram of "rain") and ELWING ("lowing" with altered vowel)? And is #8 LUTHIEN ("hut" + "Nile")?

[Nerwen]

And #1 is ELROS (anagram of "loser").

[Nerwen]

But what is with all the sailors?:confused:

Is the answer by any chance EÄRENDIL?

[Pervinca Took]

Elros: Is he just a mixed up loser?
A: Material for a sailor’s headgear, inspired by Eighties pop icon?
Rian: Chaotic rain reveals her.
Elwing: Cattle sound changes vowel: spin and see her fly!
N: More agile blow in a whirl here.
D: Ancalagon’s brass instrument? A substance for a sailor’s weapon.
I: Sounds like a sick sailor, without hesitation. A lofty place, indeed.
Luthien: Makeshift dwelling and large river combine for a maiden.

Correct! Earendil is both password and theme. And I think you've answered your own question. ;)

I know Luthien is only his grandmother-in-law, but I preferred it to another answer that was closer to Earendil but would only fit in backwards.

[Nerwen]

As I thought...

Then is #2 ADAMANT? (Eärendil's helmet. As for the other part- wasn't there somebody in the Eighties called Adam Ant?)

#5 must be NIMBRETHIL ("nimbler hit"), and I believe #7 is ILMARIN ("ill mariner" - "er").

And finally I guess #6 is DRAGON-HORN.

Nice clues!:smokin:

[Pervinca Took]

Elros: Is he just a mixed up loser?
Adamant: Material for a sailor’s headgear, inspired by Eighties pop icon?
Rian: Chaotic rain reveals her.
Elwing: Cattle sound changes vowel: spin and see her fly!
Nimbrethil: More agile blow in a whirl here.
Dragon-horn: Ancalagon’s brass instrument? A substance for a sailor’s weapon.
Ilmarin: Sounds like a sick sailor, without hesitation. A lofty place, indeed.
Luthien: Makeshift dwelling and large river combine for a maiden.

I made this password because I was peeved at not being able to fit more stuff from the Earendil song into my last one. ;)

Well done, Nerwen! Over to you again. :)

[Nerwen]

And apologies once again! Things keep happening! I should really prepare some in advance...

1. Only a third of a league- must be shuffled to see heavenly object.
2. Two of me, and nothing? Confusion becomes astronomical.
3. Resistance may be futile... but sounds like this alien race is in poor health.
4. Troubled crimson outsider becomes celestial symbol of hope.
5. Amphibian is brilliant after dark.
6. Two birds mingle with jovial results, then run backwards.
7. Insulted and confused veterinarian becomes stellar hunter.
8. Sounds like you're in a bad place- but when you put it all together, quite the opposite.

[Pervinca Took]

This comes at the right time ... on a coach to Devon and we are stuck in stationary traffic.

Weeeeeeelll ... I think they're all stars or heavenly bodies. But unfortunately I can't solve any of them!

I think no. 1 has 'mile' in it. There should be a constellation called Elimmere (mere for only). But there isn't.

[Galadriel55]

3. Borgil - ill Borgs?

[Nerwen]

ELEMMÍRË: Only a third of a league- must be shuffled to see heavenly object.
2. Two of me, and nothing? Confusion becomes astronomical.
BORGIL: Resistance may be futile... but sounds like this alien race is in poor health.
4. Troubled crimson outsider becomes celestial symbol of hope.
5. Amphibian is brilliant after dark.
6. Two birds mingle with jovial results, then run backwards.
7. Insulted and confused veterinarian becomes stellar hunter.
8. Sounds like you're in a bad place- but when you put it all together, quite the opposite.

Pervinca, you guessed close enough on #1 that I've decided to give it to you. (Elemmírë is a star, or possibly a planet).

[Galadriel55]

4. Earendil (alien + red)?

And Elbereth for password?

Which makes 8 Helluin (hell you in)?

[Nerwen]

Yes to all three.

ELEMMÍRË: Only a third of a league- must be shuffled to see heavenly object.
L: Two of me, and nothing? Confusion becomes astronomical.
BORGIL: Resistance may be futile... but sounds like this alien race is in poor health.
EÄRENDIL: Troubled crimson outsider becomes celestial symbol of hope.
R: Amphibian is brilliant after dark.
E: Two birds mingle with jovial results, then run backwards.
T: Insulted and confused veterinarian becomes stellar hunter.
HELLUIN: Sounds like you're in a bad place- but when you put it all together, quite the opposite.

[Pervinca Took]

Telimektar was a name for Orion the Hunter, but I've no idea how to get the separate elements ... the nearest I can get is 'rail' for 'insult.'

[Nerwen]

You're on the right track, but that's not the name I'm looking for- it's a similar one, however.

[Pervinca Took]

There's another T in the heavens. A sometimes crescent-shaped one. But I can find even less of insult or of vet in that one!

[Nerwen]

There's another T in the heavens. A sometimes crescent-shaped one. But I can find even less of insult or of vet in that one!
No, you were close before. It's just a different name for it.

[Nerwen]

I am quite happy to give further hints if anyone wants them...

[Pervinca Took]

Hints, please. :)

[Nerwen]

Well-

#2 is literal- two of [a word equivalent to "me"] and [a word equivalent to "nothing"].

#5. You're looking for a word for a type of amphibian... which also happens to mean something else in Middle-earth.

#6. The answer- which I'm afraid is pretty obscure- is an anagram of the names of two birds, and is reversed. However, I acknowledge that's not all that helpful, as after all there are a lot of bird species. One is also a synonym for a type of machine, the other means "to flinch". An important part of the clue is the word "jovial".

For #7, I suggest you look at the first page of The Lord of the Rings: Appendix E: Writing and Spelling:Proununciation of Words and Name:Consonants. (The clue part is a sort of unkind way one might describe a vet- rather silly!)

[Pervinca Took]

I think one of the birds is a QUAIL. I guess I need a synonym of jovial which has those letters, then to work backwards and find the other bird.

[Galadriel55]

Is there something like Linuil in ME? I kept fiddling with nill, but now I realized it could be null too for nothing.

[Pervinca Took]

I was trying that too - I x 2 plus nil or nul.

[Nerwen]

There is something *like* it, yes...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I think these might be the missing answers.

Luinil - anagram of I twice and null - one of Varda's stars

Rána - A frog genus and also a name for the moon

Elerrína - anagram of rail and erne - a name for Taniquetil meaning 'crowned with stars'.

Telumehtar Anagram of mutt healer - a name for the constellation of Orion.

[Nerwen]

Welcome, Squatter! And you got three out of four right!

ELEMMÍRË: Only a third of a league- must be shuffled to see heavenly object.
LUINIL: Two of me, and nothing? Confusion becomes astronomical.
BORGIL: Resistance may be futile... but sounds like this alien race is in poor health.
EÄRENDIL: Troubled crimson outsider becomes celestial symbol of hope.
RÁNA: Amphibian is brilliant after dark.
E: Two birds mingle with jovial results, then run backwards.
TELUMEHTAR: Insulted and confused veterinarian becomes stellar hunter.
HELLUIN: Sounds like you're in a bad place- but when you put it all together, quite the opposite.

Pervinca was correct with "quail" as one of the two birds.

[Nerwen]

By the way, I actually thought of #5 because I was listening to loud nocturnal croaking at the time. Lots of frogs around here (though not actually of the Rana genus).

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Ta muchly. I was going to leave those for someone else, but the crossword was too easy today. Clearly frogs greet the moon as their distant relative. I must look into that one day.

If we're going down the backwards road, an anagram of quail and crane is Alcarinquë, the most jovial planet. Reverse it and you get ëuqniraclA. Is that what you were looking for?

[Nerwen]

That's it. Well done!:)

ELEMMÍRË: Only a third of a league- must be shuffled to see heavenly object.
LUINIL: Two of me, and nothing? Confusion becomes astronomical.
BORGIL: Resistance may be futile... but sounds like this alien race is in poor health.
EÄRENDIL: Troubled crimson outsider becomes celestial symbol of hope.
RÁNA: Amphibian is brilliant after dark.
ËUQNIRACLA: Two birds mingle with jovial results, then run backwards.
TELUMEHTAR: Insulted and confused veterinarian becomes stellar hunter.
HELLUIN: Sounds like you're in a bad place- but when you put it all together, quite the opposite.

[Pervinca Took]

So, I guess it's Galadriel's turn?

Excellent password. (I think I needed to be 200 miles closer to my HOME collection, though!)

[Galadriel55]

This falls on my one true day of vacation, meaning I don't take forever to make one. A couple of these were also a good chuckle to make, and hopefully to solve. Here goes.



1. I hear insect and a brief alarm. A broken piece?
2. Sounds like boat took note and tumbled into the ocean.
3. Left tribesman from the East – whoops, West.
4. Look thus, pointless confused maia reflection!
5. Behold after Downer flows.
6. Sailor confused awful moon.
7. Boy greets short conjunction in haven.
8. Right, same tribesman from the East, and this time actually East.

[Mithalwen]

Is 5 Gwathlo - Gwath (agor) +lo (behold)?

[Pervinca Took]

Ah ... I was trying -lo but only knew Ringlo.

[Pervinca Took]

6. AERANDIR? (Dire + Rana). Friend of Earendil the Mariner.

If so, a guess at BELEGAER for the password? (A name on my mind because I was trying it for the 'ocean' clue).

[Galadriel55]

All correct!

1. B I hear insect and a brief alarm. A broken piece?
2. E Sounds like boat took note and tumbled into the ocean.
3. L Left tribesman from the East – whoops, West.
4. E Look thus, pointless confused maia reflection!
5. GWATHLO: Behold after Downer flows.
6. AERANDIR: Sailor confused awful moon.
7. E Boy greets short conjunction in haven.
8. R Right, same tribesman from the East, and this time actually East.

[Pervinca Took]

Is 8 RHUN? (R + Hun?)

And therefore LHUN for 3?

[Pervinca Took]

Could 4 be OSSE backwards, hence 'ESSO?'

Look = see. Thus = so. Lose one of the compass points (an E).

[Galadriel55]

All correct. Typing on phone, will update list when have computer.

[Pervinca Took]

2. E Sounds like boat took note and tumbled into the ocean.

Can't make out the elements of this, but I think 'earon' and 'earen' are elvish words for ocean?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Or it could be a boat we're looking for, like Eärrámë

I think 1 is Balar and 7 is Edhellond

[Galadriel55]

1. BALAR I hear insect and a brief alarm. A broken piece?
2. E Sounds like boat took note and tumbled into the ocean.
3. LHUN Left tribesman from the East – whoops, West.
4. ESSO Look thus, pointless confused maia reflection!
5. GWATHLO: Behold after Downer flows.
6. AERANDIR: Sailor confused awful moon.
7. EDHELLOND Boy greets short conjunction in haven.
8. RHUN Right, same tribesman from the East, and this time actually East.



#2 is neither guess. But you're right in working backwards with that one, ei go through the list of possibilities and try to make them fit.

[Pervinca Took]

Eldalonde would have tumbled into the ocean, with the rest of Numenor.

[Galadriel55]

Eldalonde would have tumbled into the ocean, with the rest of Numenor.

You were conceptually closer with your first guess.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

2. Ekkaia. Anagram of Kaiak and E, meaning the Encircling Sea.

[Pervinca Took]

Ah ... didn't know kayak could be spelt with an 'i.'

[Galadriel55]

It isn't. Hence the sounds like.

But that's the last one! Over to Pervinca.

[Pervinca Took]

Forgot the 'sounds like' - sorry.

I'll post the next one soon.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Elven-rope is as soft as this.
2. Nori runs back! It’s well hard.
3. Not acid, and mingles without note. Initially titanium, and six of these helped produce this seventh one.
4. Here without hesitation, reclined; it binds.
5. Gone to the toilet in slang? Must have been in a hurry, as got mixed up, ran backwards and overshot! Blame the Dark Elf for the result.
6. One emaciated top mingles for this substance.
7. Napoleon’s isle and royal seat? Loses note in confusion for this.

[Galadriel55]

Lebethron for the last one, as Elba+throne-A.

Iron for 2?

Making the password MITHRIL?

[Pervinca Took]

M: Elven-rope is as soft as this.
IRON: Nori runs back! It’s well hard.
T: Not acid, and mingles without note. Initially titanium, and six of these helped produce this seventh one.
H: Here without hesitation, reclined; it binds.
-R: Gone to the toilet in slang? Must have been in a hurry, as got mixed up, ran backwards and overshot! Blame the Dark Elf for the result.
I: One emaciated top mingles for this substance.
LEBETHRON: Napoleon’s isle and royal seat? Loses note in confusion for this.

[Galadriel55]

I've tried a little fiddling for the other clues, but no luck so far. But for the sake of discussion, here are a few thoughts.

H:

"Here without hesitation" I took to mean without the "er". So HE, unless it's a synonym. Hither gives HITH. Reclined - lie? Lay? Rest? I can't combine any of these into meaningful words, forget something that binds (rope? chain? oath?)

[Pervinca Took]

You are very, very close.

HITH is indeed the first four letters.

'Lay' is almost right. You just need the past participle instead of the simple past.

[Galadriel55]

Huh, wow, I was slow on that one.

HITHLAIN - the stuff the Elven ropes were made from.


Also, on the off-chance, METEOR for -R?

[Pervinca Took]

M: Elven-rope is as soft as this.
IRON: Nori runs back! It’s well hard.
T: Not acid, and mingles without note. Initially titanium, and six of these helped produce this seventh one.
HITHLAIN: Here without hesitation, reclined; it binds.
-R: Gone to the toilet in slang? Must have been in a hurry, as got mixed up, ran backwards and overshot! Blame the Dark Elf for the result.
I: One emaciated top mingles for this substance.
LEBETHRON: Napoleon’s isle and royal seat? Loses note in confusion for this.

The -R clue does indeed run backwards, but it also overshoots by one letter. So R is the last-but-one letter of the answer, which you then put in backwards to fit into the password.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

1 is milk, as Sam tells Frodo
6 is Ithildin

I have a feeling that the parsing for the others is going to be tortuous.

[Pervinca Took]

MILK: Elven-rope is as soft as this.
IRON: Nori runs back! It’s well hard.
T: Not acid, and mingles without note. Initially titanium, and six of these helped produce this seventh one.
HITHLAIN: Here without hesitation, reclined; it binds.
-R: Gone to the toilet in slang? Must have been in a hurry, as got mixed up, ran backwards and overshot! Blame the Dark Elf for the result.
ITHILDIN: One emaciated top mingles for this substance.
LEBETHRON: Napoleon’s isle and royal seat? Loses note in confusion for this.

The other two shouldn't be *too* hard. Look at the theme that has emerged, then try working backwards to justify the answers.

(For Galadriel and anyone else, Ithildin = I + thin + lid).

[Pervinca Took]

HINT: You need to look in the First Age for the remaining two answers. (Actually, for one of them, maybe look even before that ....)

[Galadriel55]

Second try: SWORD for Eol's creation?

[Pervinca Took]

You're close ... but haven't you noticed that the theme of this password is materials rather than objects? ;)

That particular clue has a sensible answer, but quite a silly way of getting the letters ... in a way, a bit like Nerwen's esteemed 'mutt healer.' :)

[Galadriel55]

Did some reading. Pretty sure it's galvorn, a word I hadn't remembered before. But no idea how you get there.

[Pervinca Took]

MILK: Elven-rope is as soft as this.
IRON: Nori runs back! It’s well hard.
T: Not acid, and mingles without note. Initially titanium, and six of these helped produce this seventh one.
HITHLAIN: Here without hesitation, reclined; it binds.
NROVLAG: Gone to the toilet in slang? Must have been in a hurry, as got mixed up, ran backwards and overshot! Blame the Dark Elf for the result.
ITHILDIN: One emaciated top mingles for this substance.
LEBETHRON: Napoleon’s isle and royal seat? Loses note in confusion for this.

Galvorn = Gorn lav. ;) (Cockney slang, incorporating a bit of ellipsis).

(I couldn't resist the further lavatorial semantic opportunities that this and the 'overshooting' element presented, I'm afraid). :D

(I mean, even elves must have to go to the toilet ....)

[Galadriel55]

Now struggling with the last one. Beginning to wonder if Drawven rings were made of titaneas or something. :rolleyes:


By the way, I have to say that's a brilliant and very dedicated password. Much as it's curious to solve, cause you have to go back to the text for some clues and work both backwards and forwards, it must have taken a lot of effort to get words from such a limited theme to line up. Hats off!

[Pervinca Took]

That's kind of you to say, but you yourself upped the bar by making (I think) the first themed password and working so hard to find answers to fit that theme. It has made constructing passwords more fun and challenging, as well as solving them, so thank you for that.

1. You already have most of the Titanium part of the clue, with the initial T.

2. Now, what kind of substance is Titanium?

3. Do a little googling for Middle-earth substances, and keep in mind the earlier history of Middle-earth.

[Nerwen]

I believe answer is "Tilkal", referencing "The Book of Lost Tales". Ti + alkali - A (note)?

[Pervinca Took]

MILK: Elven-rope is as soft as this.
IRON: Nori runs back! It’s well hard.
TILKAL: Not acid, and mingles without note. Initially titanium, and six of these helped produce this seventh one.
HITHLAIN: Here without hesitation, reclined; it binds.
NROVLAG: Gone to the toilet in slang? Must have been in a hurry, as got mixed up, ran backwards and overshot! Blame the Dark Elf for the result.
ITHILDIN: One emaciated top mingles for this substance.
LEBETHRON: Napoleon’s isle and royal seat? Loses note in confusion.

Yes, Aule took 6 metals and from them made a seventh, TILKAL, harder than all the rest, and from it forged Angainor.

Just the T (the initial of Titanium), plus alkali minus A.

I had to include 2 substances also around in our own age to make a password, though. ;) I did think of adding a reference to Dain Ironfoot to make the Iron one more Middle-earthish, but there was iron in Middle-earth and there was a mention of Nori. Milk already is because it's part of Sam's elven-rope simile.

Well done both, and over to Galadriel!

[Galadriel55]

Tried to follow up with as cool a theme as yours, but had to go broader. I got a couple themes to work, but half of the words were reversed, so I went with the easier theme but well-fitting words. Your password is a hard act to follow. ;)


1. Sounds like drink precedes father of this man.
2. We run amok and laugh.
3. Blind set up bolted and tangled.
4. Small offspring tosses second person into garbage basket.
5. Negative German, Asian last name. So confused and sad.

Happy riddling!


EDIT: holy bananas! I missed my 7000th post by 50 posts! I'm getting worse at this with every thousand. :rolleyes: But I still like to celebrate my chattiness. Maybe eventually the quantity will overrule the quality? :Merisu:

[Pervinca Took]

I missed my 1,000th too. ;)

Is 5 Nienor, because of 'nein' and its meaning? (Mourning). Not sure about the Asian last name, though.

I suppose Niniel (maid of tears) is closer to the' sadness' element ... maybe 'el' fits better for the Asian element?

P.S. And URWEN for 2? And maybe HURIN for the password?

[Galadriel55]

Yes to Urwen and Niniel (name is Li). No to Hurin.

Will edit this post to update password in a few hours when I turn on the computer.

[Pervinca Took]

Perhaps Turin for the password?

[Galadriel55]

Indeed.

[Galadriel55]

1. T Sounds like drink precedes father of this man.
2. URWEN We run amok and laugh.
3. R Blind set up bolted and tangled.
4. I Small offspring tosses second person into garbage basket.
5. NINIEL Negative German, Asian last name. So confused and sad.


PS. Happy belated 1000'th! :)

[Pervinca Took]

1. T Sounds like drink precedes father of this man ...

PS. Happy belated 1000'th! :)

And to you for 7,000 posts. :)

Could the first one be TUOR? (Sounds like T (tea) plus his father, Huor?)

And maybe IBUN for number 4? (Bin + U, and he's a dwarf).

[Galadriel55]

1. T Sounds like drink precedes father of this man.
2. URWEN We run amok and laugh.
3. R Blind set up bolted and tangled.
4. IBUN Small offspring tosses second person into garbage basket.
5. NINIEL Negative German, Asian last name. So confused and sad.



You are sooo close with Tuor. Like almost spot on. Just use a different man and father.

[Pervinca Took]

The only other one like that I know is Turin son of Hurin.

[Galadriel55]

The only other one like that I know is Turin son of Hurin.

And what do you get when you put a drink in front of Hurin?

[Pervinca Took]

Thurin.

And a quick search tells me that this was Finduilas's name for Turin.

3. R Blind set up bolted and tangled.

Apparently REMBINA means 'entangled' in Quenya?

The only synonym I can think of for blind is 'screen,' and I got nowhere with that. Also, I can't think of any blind characters in Tolkien's works. Have tried mingling 'ran' and 'locked' for 'bolted' with screen and couldn't come up with anything. So I thought I might try the 'tangled' part as the straight clue.

(I expect I am wrong).

... REMBINA has RAN in it, but I can't account for the rest of the elements.

[Galadriel55]

1. THURIN Sounds like drink precedes father of this man.
2. URWEN We run amok and laugh.
3. R Blind set up bolted and tangled.
4. IBUN Small offspring tosses second person into garbage basket.
5. NINIEL Negative German, Asian last name. So confused and sad.


There is a minor blind character related to Turin's storyline, in Dor-Lommin. And you are correct with RAN.

[Pervinca Took]

There is Ragnor (ran + org?), but I think he is a companion of Barahir?

[Galadriel55]

There is Ragnor (ran + org?), but I think he is a companion of Barahir?

You are off by one letter.