Password

[Turambar]

This is a new game. I freely admit to having stolen the idea from another Tolkien board. The rules are as follows:

1. The questioner gives a series of questions, each leading to an answer (which the questioner will confirm when guessed).

2. The first letters of the answers form the Password (see example below).

3. Traditionally, the questions can be (but aren't required to be) on the tricksy side, and can include “cryptic clues”, as well summarized by The Saucepan Man here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000451&p=1) (i.e., anagrams, synonyms, "sounds like" clues, etc.)

4. The first person to guess the “Password” wins the game, although you still have to solve any remaining questions.

5. Once the game gets going (if it does get going), you’re allowed to tinker with Rule #2. [

Simple example:

(1) Noldor, Sindar or Vanyar.
(2) First Telerin deserter.
(3) Monsters of the Last Desert.
(4) Not a man, to the Witch King’s regret.

Answers:

(1) Elf.
(2) Lenwë.
(3) Wereworms.
(4) Éowyn.

Password: ELWË.

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Here’s a first puzzle:

(1) The Nostradamus of Brethil, last seen hurling a sad prophecy.
(2) City that played the Stones’ hits.
(3) Young star of Gondor, or a confused pet rodent?
(4) From Edith to Priscilla.
(5) (She was) gold on top, silver on the bottom.
(6) Fair land between two rivers, did Peregrin visit here when muddled?
(7) It flows from . . . here.
(8) Soul man with a broken crown, figuratively. Lightning was spotted there.
(9) Scholar, linguist, poet of the Elder Days. But he didn’t smoke a pipe.
(10) One needs to be a porter to pass here.

[ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

I'll venture three guesses:

(1) Brandir
(6) Eregion, perhaps?
(7) Could it be Morthond?

[Turambar]

Rats ! All three wrong. But thanks for trying, I thought this game might die an early death. smilies/smile.gif

You're on the right track (i.e. in the right place in the Silmarillion), I think, for #1. But Brandir wasn't a seer, was he?

For #6 -- see Saucepan Man's post (linked above) for the "cryptic" meaning of "muddled". smilies/cool.gif HINT: what was Peregrin's title?

For #7 -- No, FROM HERE. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Okay, thanks for the clues! Now I believe I know the answer to two of them:

(1) Glaurung?
(6) This would be the Naith of Lorien

[Arestevana]

(8) Amon Sul? As A mon = man sul = soul? Frodo saw lightning on the hill when Gandalf was fighting off the Nazgul.

Edit: You have a point, Luthien_Tinuviel.
smilies/wink.gif Silly of me not to notice. This is a great game!

[ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Arestevana, I think you're right, because "soul man" fits perfectly as an anagram for "Amon Sul".

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I will venture a guess at 9 and 10:

9- Pengolodh
10- Rath Dinen (or perhaps Sarn Gebir-- where the fellowship had to carry the boats over a "portage way"?)

Also, if it helps someone figure out "Edith" was Tolkien's wife, and "Priscilla" was his daughter. I can't get the clue, however.

Sophia

[ August 10, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[Turambar]

The corect guesses are noted below:

(1) Glirhuin (A harping seer of Brethil, last seen hurling a sad prophecy.)
(2) Ondolindë (City that played the Stones’ hits.)
(3) Bergil (Young star of Gondor, or a confused pet rodent?)
(4) From Edith to Priscilla. <--
(5) Idril ((She was) gold on top, silver on the bottom.)
(6) Naith (Fair land between two rivers, did Peregrin visit here when muddled?)
(7) Withywindle (It flows from . . . here.)
(8) Amon Sûl (Soul man with a broken crown, figuratively. Lightning was spotted there.)
(9) Rúmil (Scholar, linguist, poet of the Elder Days. But he didn’t smoke a pipe.
(10) Sarn Gebir (One needs to be a porter to pass here.)

HINT:

(4) One of Tolkien's "works", sort of.

[ August 12, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I'll go for Ondolinde for number 2, perhaps?

[Turambar]

Correct !

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

3) Bergil- gerbil "confused"
7) Withywindle- sourced HERE in the Barrow-downs smilies/wink.gif
9) Rumil- the ole Loremaster himself

Your password is GOBLIN WARS

Sophia

[Turambar]

Great job Sophia !! "Bergil" also includes gil = "star".

Of course, next time there will be no extra hints. smilies/wink.gif

You can start concocting your puzzle while the last few clues are solved (which should be even easier now that everyone knows the first letters). smilies/smile.gif

[ August 11, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

A few more guesses...
(1) Glirhuin
(5) Idril Celebrindal

[Turambar]

Yes on both accounts!

Glirhuin (a near anagram of hurling) was the seer/harper of Brethil who prophesied that the Stone of the Hapless would never be destroyed; in fact it survived the War of Wrath as Tol Morwen.

Idril had golden hair and was nicknamed Celebrindal, "silver-foot".

Only # 4 to go -- c'mon, it's as easy as ABC. smilies/wink.gif

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Beren87]

Well, J.R.R.T. called Edith his "Luthien" quite often..and it fits the L, I just can't think of a phrase to go with it that fits the "Priscilla" part..

[Turambar]

Since I'm looking forward to Sophia's new Password puzzle, I'll just give the last answer. It is Letters of JRR Tolkien. (In this book, the first is to Edith, and the last to Priscilla.)

Sophia, you're up !

[Turambar]

http://7parabian.com/Images/dragon/whdragx.gif

(dragon bump)

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Okay, now that you gave it away, it's "letter" (or letters... whichever you prefer...). smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Sophia ?

[The Saucepan Man]

What a great game, Turambar. smilies/cool.gif

Seems to me that the questions making up the Password can draw on many of the other types of game in the forum (straight trivia, riddles, cryptic, words in words etc).

Might I make one suggestion, though? It would be helpful if the question-setter could post the list of questions, with any correct answers already given, when confirming each correct answer. Otherwise, it might become a bit difficult keeping track of which questions have been answered correctly and which haven't.

[Turambar]

I agree with you about how the questions could be of any type; my initial post should have just said, Be warned that "cryptic" clues are fair game (though not required).

As for your suggestion -- I agree there too, and I did do that, by continually editing the original post (to fill in correctly guessed clues). If it had gone to the next page, i would have re-posted the whole list.

So where's Sophia? I WANT A NEW PASSWORD !!!

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Heh, here I am. Sorry for the delay, I appreciated your message Turambar.

New Password:

1. A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft
2. Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home
3. I log lags, Lord they mix me up!
4. Elven Summer, or maybe song...
5. Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val.
6. Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old.
7. Underground grins.
8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...).
9. The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked!
10. Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty.

Some of these are really hard! I'm sorry guys. Hints will be available as needed.

Sophia

[Turambar]

Yay !! http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/a_smil16.gif

#1 Morgoth's Ring, or Arda ?
#4 Laer, or Lairë ?

[ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

So far I have

2: Archet
5: Orocarni
7: Smials
9: Araw

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Apparently these aren't as ridiculously hard as I thought they were.

1. A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft
2. Archet Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home
3. I log lags, Lord they mix me up!
4. Laer Elven Summer, or maybe song...
5. Orocarni Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val.
6. Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old.
7. Smials Underground grins.
8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...).
9. Araw The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked!
10. Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty.

Keep working on #1 Turambar. smilies/wink.gif

Sophia

[Estelyn Telcontar]

#10 is Pincup (Finally a clue I got - could writing seamstresses have something to do with it? smilies/wink.gif )

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

#1 is Mahanaxar, also known as "The Ring of Doom".

[The Saucepan Man]

To add to the growing list:

#1 is Mahanaxar, the Ring of Doom outside Valimar wherein the Valar sat in council.

#3 is Golasgil (anagram of I log lags), Lord of Anfalas.

#6 is Renewer, the meaning of Aragorn's title, Evinyatar.

The Password is Maglor's Gap.

But I can't for the life of me think what #8 is. smilies/frown.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

All correct.
1. Mahanaxar A ring without a finger, older than Mirdain craft
2. Archet Little village with Triumphant Architecture followed by a famous film flight home
3. Golasgil I log lags, Lord they mix me up!
4. Laer Elven Summer, or maybe song...
5. Orocarni Nothing, Right? Nothing. Just the Mountain Fair without Val.
6. Renewer Title of what begins with "once again" but is clearly not as old.
7. Smials Underground grins.
8. Green with envy initially, then blown to either's mate (love hurts, you see...).
9. Araw The Forest Lord's first choice is uncooked!
10. Pincup Hobbit town, frequented by seamstresses and the thirsty.

Saucy, the password is indeed Maglor's Gap!

Shall I tell you what the answer to #8 is (odd, I thought it was easier than some of the others...)? Or shall I let you try to work it out?

Sophia

[Turambar]

#8 Gwindor ? (G.W. + wind + or)

Sophia -- geez they made short work of that one, didn't they? We have some real cryptographers on this site, which makes sense now that I think of it (all the graves, you know).

Can't wait to see SPM's puzzle.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Gwindor it is... Sheesh you guys are good... Nice new avatar, by the way, Turambar! smilies/smile.gif

Take it away Saucepan.

Sophia

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, bear with me folks. It might take me a day or two to concoct something. I'll edit it in when I've come up with it.

Right, here it is.

1) Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear.
2) It may be useless, but it has sentimental value.
3) Present realm in the language of the locals.
4) Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift.
5) Might this fellow of the land one day take flight?
6) Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage.
7) Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp.
8) Took home for extended break, reportedly.

Going on past performance, I don't imagine that this one will cause too much difficulty.

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Voralphion]

2) Shards of Narsil ??

[Turambar]

# 7 Incánus ? (Spain can usurp; Incánus meant "south spy" I think)

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Useless? They were reforged to produce Anduril, which was a pretty useful weapon as I recall. smilies/wink.gif

So that's not the answer, I'm afraid. smilies/frown.gif

But you are correct on #7, Turambar (except it's "north spy").

1) Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear.
2) It may be useless, but it has sentimental value.
3) Present realm in the language of the locals.
4) Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift.
5) Might this fellow of the land one day take flight?
6) Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage.
7) Incanus: Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp.
8) Took home for extended break, reportedly.

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Turambar]

That makes more sense. smilies/smile.gif

#1 Elfhelm ?

#3 Andor ? (Elvish for land of gift*)

#6 Erendis ? (no idea why smilies/smile.gif, except that it's a near-anagram of riders)

* EDIT: or Yôzâyan, same meaning but in Adûnaic (the "language of the locals") ?

[ August 21, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

2 - Mathom
6 - Uinen
8 - Long Cleeve

I think the password is Emyn Muil

[The Saucepan Man]

Well done, Turambar and Squatter. Between you, you seem to have solved most of them.

1) Elfhelm: Soldier of the Eldar takes protective headgear.
2) Mathom: It may be useless, but it has sentimental value.
3) Yôzâyan: Present realm in the language of the locals.
4) ? Originally, this secret was believed to hold a birthday gift.
5) ? Might this fellow of the land one day take flight?
6) Uinen: Nine erratically follow head of Umbar to see partner in a tempestuous marriage.
7) Incanus: Northern secret agent from Spain can usurp.
8) Long Cleeve: Took home for extended break, reportedly.

And well Done Squatter for getting the Password. It is indeed Emyn Muil. Your turn next smilies/smile.gif

But, in the meantime, #s 4 and 5 remain to be solved ...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

5 - Maggot

And (guessing wildly) 4 - Ninglor

[The Saucepan Man]

Maggot is correct. Ninglor, I'm afraid, is not - although you have the right birthday gift.

[Beren87]

Nahald, perhaps? As it's mannish for secret, and is also another name for Deagol, who held the ring.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Since it's been three days since there was any movement here I'll post the new password and let Saucepan respond to that answer in his own time.

1: Arrested elderly Hobbit
2: Dark goddess pursued by motor and chopper to a chilly spot
3: Flat, stupid and wet: why go there?
4: Ring and staff lead to destruction in deadly furnace
5: Underground king is entrance, we hear
6: Fellow among sheep tends to repeat, right? This will fence them in!
7: Note area is recipient of gifts
8: Fightin' man, you say?

[Turambar]

Woo hoo!

#1 Lobelia ?

#2 Helcaraxe ?

#6 Rammas Echor ?

[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Sorry for the delay. I've not been on-line over the weekend. smilies/frown.gif

Beren, Nahald was the correct answer to #4. It is the original (as opposed to translated) name for Deagol and, as you say, means 'secret'.

As for the new Password:

#4 - Orodruin. ('O' is a ring, followed by 'rod' another word for a staff and 'ruin' meaning destruction. The whole is a deadly furnace.)

#5 - Durin (which sounds like 'Door-in', an entrance).

[Turambar]

Ah!

Then is the Password Theodred ?

[Turambar]

#1 Tom Cotton Sr.?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

#1 could be Will Whitfoot, though Théodred wouldn't work then...

[Turambar]

It appears that composing a Password is sometimes like making Thanksgiving dinner for a family with a lot of kids.

Hours in the making, 20 minutes to devour. http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/D.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Looks like Turambar's right with the Password, which should help to polish off the remainder of the Thanksgiving feast. smilies/biggrin.gif

#7 might be Eregion - the note 'E' plus region, meaning 'area', Eregion being where Annatar's gifts were received.

For #8, I'll guess at Duilin, which sounds like duellin', a form of fighting without the 'G'.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Here's the current state of play:

1: Arrested elderly Hobbit
2: Helcaraxë - Dark goddess pursued by motor and chopper to a chilly spot
3: Flat, stupid and wet: why go there?
4: Orodruin - Ring and staff lead to destruction in deadly furnace
5: Durin - Underground king is entrance, we hear
6: Rammas Echor - Fellow among sheep tends to repeat, right? This will fence them in!
7: Eregion - Note area is recipient of gifts
8: Duilin - Fightin' man, you say?

Turambar has the password, which is indeed Théodred.

[Turambar]

#1 Tobold ? (Though I don't see arrested in there.)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Neither do I, Turambar. I'm afraid that's not the answer.

[Turambar]

The Old Took ? smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

#3 must be Evendim (even = flat; dim = stupid; and being a lake it is clearly wet.).

No idea about #1 - I'll leave that one to you, Turambar. smilies/wink.gif

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Turambar: I was only looking for 'Took', but you're close enough.

Saucepan Man: Spot on. 'Evendim' it is.

The remains of that repast, therefore, look like this:

1: Took - Arrested elderly Hobbit
2: Helcaraxë - Dark goddess pursued by motor and chopper to a chilly spot
3: Evendim - Flat, stupid and wet: why go there?
4: Orodruin - Ring and staff lead to destruction in deadly furnace
5: Durin - Underground king is entrance, we hear
6: Rammas Echor - Fellow among sheep tends to repeat, right? This will fence them in!
7: Eregion - Note area is recipient of gifts
8: Duilin - Fightin' man, you say?

[Turambar]

Then it's time for FOOTBALL !!

It'll take me a day or two at least to prepare the next one. If anyone (including any potential new players) can post one in the meantime, please feel free.

Good one, Squatter.

[ August 26, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Rimbaud]

As invited, here is a very quick one. I trust this will take not too much longer than its swift genesis.

1 Becomes voluble after essential potable.
2 Very aware, to note self.
3 Hark! Sounds like a nonuple wizard.
4 The purist's bureaucracy?
5 Better to have a happy ending, golfer removes tee and drives into small woods.

EDIT: Last clue altered slightly, 27/08.

[ August 27, 2003: Message edited by: Rimbaud ]

[Turambar]

#1 Loudwater ?

[ August 26, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Rimbaud]

Yes sir!

[Turambar]

#3 Nindalf?

[Rimbaud]

And again, correct.

[Turambar]

I'll have to http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgscratchchin.gif about the other three.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Time to break this trend of correct answering, methinks:

#4 Red Book (as opposed to red boxes and red tape)

[Rimbaud]

I fear not, good, sir. Not pure enough, by half.

[Turambar]

Apparently the wind was northerly. http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/D.gif


http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/idea1.gif White Council ? If so, would the Password be Lenwë ?

[ August 26, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Rimbaud]

Yes, and yes!

Well played, sir.

[Turambar]

The original deserter.

We still have #2 and #4 to go.

[Turambar]

I'm stuck. I keep coming back to Tiger Woods for #4 because he has a "T" - and woods, for that matter - in his name, but I can't make anything of "IGER". Does a "happy ending" mean a "Y", or something else?

And #2 is Greek to me.

Anyone else have some ideas?

[ August 27, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, I'm stumped too. smilies/frown.gif

Like you, Turambar, I was thinking along the lines of Tiger Woods for #5, largely because I know very few golfers.

For #2, I was wondering whether "self" might refer to "ego", but my wondering hasn't got me very far.

A hint or two maybe, Rimbaud?

[Rimbaud]

My apologies, it seems the clues were poorly constructed - I can blame only myself and the hastiness of the creation.

For #2 - you would have to be very aware to see that 'note self' is an anagram of Elfstone.

The fifth is just an out-and-out bad clue, I'd say on reflection.

If you remove a 't' to find a happy ending, you would have started perhaps with Entings, likened to small woods. Golfing was a red herring. Bad clue, mea culpa, let's see Turambar's latest.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I shouldn't be too hard on myself if I were you, Rimbaud; it takes me ages to think up mine. Most of us have been practicing on the Cryptic Clues (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000451) thread for a while now, so perhaps you'd like to join us.

[Turambar]

It's good to see that the game is going well now. smilies/biggrin.gif

Try this one:

(1) Forlong the Fat (Protractedly thick, before being cut down in the field.)
(2) Eru (Singular composer.)
(3) Anar (Fiery offspring of Yavanna and Nienna.)
(4) Where the first long drive occurred?
(5) The Ring-bearer stepped into his shoes.
(6) Roheryn (Don't look this in the mouth.)

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, these are a bit speculative, but I'll give them a go.

Is #2 Iluvatar or Eru - he is referred to as "the One" and he initiated the Music of the Ainur?

And I'll guess at Shadowfax for #6 - a gift horse. smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Kaiserin]

# 3: The Two Trees? Yavanna sang them into being, while Nienna watered the ground with her tears.

[Turambar]

Eru is correct; the other two guesses are wrong, though both are definitely on the right track; I guess each of those had two possible answers. Oops. I composed this one very quickly.

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Mariska Greenleaf]

#3# the Sun?

[Turambar]

So close - a little more Elvish please . . .

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Well, in that case, then:

1: Forlong the Fat
3: Anor
4: North-South Road
6: Roheryn

and the password is Fëanor.

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: The Squatter of Amon Rûdh ]

[Turambar]

1, 3 (Anar, actually) and 6 are correct, but the password is not Fëanor.

[The Saucepan Man]

Is #5 Underhill, as in Frodo's alias?

No idea what the Password can be if it's not Feanor. smilies/frown.gif

[Turambar]

No. I probably could have said supplanted him rather than stepped into his shoes.

Re the Password, as I said when I posted this puzzle, the game has gotten going now. smilies/wink.gif

Re-posting on this page:

(1) Forlong the Fat (Protractedly thick, before being cut down in the field.)
(2) Eru (Singular composer.)
(3) Anar (Fiery offspring of Yavanna and Nienna.)
(4) Northfarthing (Where the first long drive occurred?)
(5) The Ring-bearer stepped into his shoes.
(6) Roheryn (Don't look this in the mouth.)

HINT: #4 refers to an activity mentioned in the last Password.

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Rimbaud]

If we are talking Bandobras and his particular brand of putting and driving, then Greenfields should be #4. However, the password then eludes me entirely.

EDIT: Unless you mean North Farthing. Sure it's not Feanor? smilies/confused.gif

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Rimbaud ]

[Turambar]

Rimbaud -- you have the right incident, but I was being slightly less specific about where this occurred. A penny for your thoughts?

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Turambar]

Northfarthing is right, but Fëanor is not.

[Turambar]

I'm going to be away all weekend. I've given Evisse the answers, so she will handle this over the weekend.

LAST HINTS:

# 5 -- I hope you will adopt the right reasoning to solve this one; as I said, it is he who was supplanted by the Ring-bearer. For further clarification, the Ring-bearer referred to is Frodo.

Password -- re-read the rules on page 1, all the way to the end. smilies/wink.gif

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

#5-Bilbo, perhaps?

[Turambar]

No, not Bilbo, though he is definitely involved in the answer.

I've given Evisse the answers, so she will handle this over the weekend. Good luck!

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Password -- re-read the rules on page 1, all the way to the end.

Then the Password must be Turgon, which comprises the last letter of each of the clues.

And #5 must be Otho (Sackville-Baggins), who was the rightful heir of Bag End by the laws of inheritance, but who was supplanted by Frodo.

[Evisse the Blue]

By the power invested in me by Turambar, I declare the Saucepan Man solver of the riddle smilies/wink.gif . Congrats! I for one never would have guessed it! smilies/tongue.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Why thank you Evisse. smilies/smile.gif Really, I just stole in at the end when everyone else had done all the hard work ... smilies/rolleyes.gif

Here's the next one. I believe that it may prove quite difficult in parts (but then again, that is probably a rather hasty comment to make in light of all the speed-solving that goes on around here smilies/wink.gif ).

1st: We hear little of him in goal at arsenal.
2nd: Defence witness points to short retiring girl.
3rd: He was gone in a flash.
4th: Are they petrified of the light?
5th: Report disturbed otherwise fearless lord.
6th: Warrior making final journey falls here.

[Turambar]

#4 Trolls or Stone trolls?

[ September 01, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Cinderella]

Is #4 Trolls??
#3 Bilbo?

[Evisse the Blue]

Alternatives for 3 and 4: Shadowfax and Orcs. As for 5, Denethor?

[Silmarien]

#6 Rauros

[The Saucepan Man]

I have added in the correct answers given so far.

1st: We hear little of him in goal at arsenal.
2nd: Defence witness points to short retiring girl.
3rd: He was gone in a flash.
4th: Trolls - Are they petrified of the light?
5th: Report disturbed otherwise fearless lord.
6th: Rauros - Warrior making final journey falls here.

Keep going! smilies/wink.gif

[Turambar]

#1 Alatar ?

#3 Ar-Pharazon ?

Is the Password Aratar?

[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Phrim]

#2 Legolas ("Legal-Lass") ?

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, no, no smilies/evil.gif and no (but I like your way of thinking, Phrim smilies/biggrin.gif ).

1st: Alatar - We hear little of him in goal at arsenal.
2nd: Defence witness points to short retiring girl.
3rd: He was gone in a flash.
4th: Trolls - Are they petrified of the light?
5th: Report disturbed otherwise fearless lord.
6th: Rauros - Warrior making final journey falls here.

[Turambar]

How about Aeglos or Aiglos for the Password? smilies/evil.gif

[Cinderella]

I can't possible imagine what the password is so I'm going to be crafty, Is it Anatar? If not I'm clueless....

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Unfortunately Sauron's alias was Annatar, so it doesn't fit.

If it helps at all, #5 is Angbor

[Turambar]

Squatter, what was the report that disturbed Angbor? Or is there another hint in the clue?

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, Squatter, Angbor is correct (anagram of "bang" plus another word for "otherwise"):

1st: Alatar - We hear little of him in goal at arsenal.
2nd: Defence witness points to short retiring girl.
3rd: He was gone in a flash.
4th: Trolls - Are they petrified of the light?
5th: Angbor - Report disturbed otherwise fearless lord.
6th: Rauros - Warrior making final journey falls here.

And what can I say Turambar? An inspired answer. AEGLOS is indeed the Password. How on earth did you get that with only 3 clues?

Anyone care to solve nos 2 and 3 now that you know the Password? smilies/evil.gif

[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Turambar]

*sudden insight* - Ohhhh - report = "bang". I wouldn't have gotten that in 1,000 years.

Saucepan -- well I figured you'd try to go one step further (pun intended) than my last-letter puzzle (plus your last letters didn't spell anything), so the step-letter trick seemed likely.

So the 2d letter of #2 will be "E", and the third letter of #3 will be "G" . . .

Could #3 be BAGGINS ? Referring to his disappearance at the Long Expected Party?

Btw, a possible variation of the rules would be that you guess the Password via PM, so that the others don't get the benefit of knowing the first letter of the remaining answers.

[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Whaddya want? A hint? smilies/rolleyes.gif

Well, OK then. smilies/wink.gif

In #2, "Defence witness" is the straight clue. The rest is cryptic.

For #3, think of what a flash might be.

[Turambar]

D'oh ! I knew "defense witness" rang a bell -- is it Nellas, Tûrin's alibi?

[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Nellas it is, Turambar! A witness for Turin's defence before Thingol. Points refers to the compass points NE and the short retiring girl is Sally without her y reversed.

1st: Alatar - We hear little of him in goal at arsenal.
2nd: Nellas - Defence witness points to short retiring girl.
3rd: He was gone in a flash.
4th: Trolls - Are they petrified of the light?
5th: Angbor - Report disturbed otherwise fearless lord.
6th: Rauros - Warrior making final journey falls here.

ANother hint for #3 - a sudden flame might be described as a flash. smilies/tongue.gif

[Turambar]

#3 Angrod or Aegnor ? (Both killed in the Battle of Sudden Flame)

[The Saucepan Man]

Oops! I managed to miss the fact that either Angrod or Aegnor would fit. smilies/rolleyes.gif Angrod was the chap that I had in my mind.

So the complete solution is:

1st: Alatar - We hear little of him in goal at arsenal.
2nd: Nellas - Defence witness points to short retiring girl.
3rd: Angrod - He was gone in a flash.
4th: Trolls - Are they petrified of the light?
5th: Angbor - Report disturbed otherwise fearless lord.
6th: Rauros - Warrior making final journey falls here.

And having succesfully worked out the Password (Aeglos), the thread is yours Turambar. smilies/smile.gif

[ September 07, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Turambar]

(1) Reluctant literary critic, refused to count sheep.
(2) Purloiner of tree-fruit and jewelry.
(3) Nobottle (Dry town of the Shire)
(4) Queenly new raiment of the night.
(5) One we would follow as general, teacher or messenger.
(6) Yielded to a friend, I hear.
(7) Call me (this) later.
(8) But . . . what do you call Mordor ?

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Arestevana]

2) Bilbo?

[Turambar]

Finally, a guess !

Unfortunately, it's wrong. smilies/frown.gif

[Arestevana]

I thought as much.
*rereads clues*
Aha! Thank you for that clarification...
1) Frodo?
2) Peregrin Took?
I suspect I'm wrong again...

[Turambar]

No and no.

#1 is from LotR. #2 is not.

[Turambar]

Since this one is lagging, I've edited several clues to make them a bit easier. I hope. smilies/smile.gif

[Voralphion]

1)Sam?
5)Gandalf?
6)Narya

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: Voralphion ]

[Turambar]

All wrong, unfortunately.

#5 has an embedded clue. So does #4, though they may be tough to spot.

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Arestevana]

1) Gandalf?
3) Nobottle?

[Turambar]

1) No. HINT: Bilbo.

2) http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[Finwe]

Is #2 Beren?

[Turambar]

No, not Beren. For #2, one of the "thefts" is related in LotR, the other in the Silmarillion.

[Salix]

2) Morgoth?

[Turambar]

Nope. Hint for #2: Akallabeth.

[Voralphion]

2)Isildur.

1)Pippin

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Voralphion ]

[Arestevana]

1) Lindir

[Turambar]

Lindir and isildur are correct!

Re-posting this page:

(1) Lindir (Reluctant literary critic, refused to count sheep)
(2) Isildur (Purloiner of tree-fruit and jewelry)
(3) Nobottle (Dry town of the Shire)
(4) Arwen (Queenly new raiment of the night)
(5) Eonwë (One we would follow as general, teacher or messenger)
(6) Yielded to a friend, I hear.
(7) Epessë (Call me (this) later)
(8) Nameless Land (But . . . what do you call Mordor?)

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Arestevana]

I'm not sure if I know what you mean by 'embedded clue', but-
5) Elwe

[Turambar]

A "embedded clue" = a scramble or "word within words", within the clue.

Elwë is not correct for #5. Hint: Ainu.

[miellien]

#4- Evenstar? The "queen" and "raiment of night" (star) seems to fit to me.
#6- Legolas? Yielded the contest of the orc-count to Gimili.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

#4 is Arwen, reversed...

New raiment


Is #4 Orome?

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Turambar]

Arwen is right, good job finding the embedded clue.

The embedded clue for #5 is an anagram (scramble). I think you were guessing Orome for #5 - not correct, but the answer is an Ainu.

Hint for #7 - this is a tough one. It's an Elvish word.

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Finwe]

5) Eonwë (general, teacher, messenger of the Valar during the First Age)

7) mellon (you would call someone you met "mellon" later, once you had gotten to know them as a friend)

[Turambar]

Eonwë is right for #5 (anagram of "one we").

Mellon is not right for #7, although it is closely related to the answer to another clue.

HINT for #7: Galadriel.

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Finwe]

6) Maedhros? (He yielded the High Kingship to Fingolfin, a "friend.")

7) Galadriel (she was initially called Alatariel and Nerwen by her parents, but she was later called Galadriel by Celeborn)

8) Land of Darkness?

[Turambar]

Very close for #7 - there is an elvish word for such later given names.

For #8 - another way of referring to Mordor is what I'm after.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Is #7 epessë?
Is #8 Nameless Land?
Is the Password Linaewen?

[ October 12, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Turambar]

yes, YES and YES !

Good job, Nilpaurion. http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

Linaewen was the marshland in Nevrast where many sea-birds lived.

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Thank you, Master of Doom *bows*

By the way, here's my bit...

1. A land in Gondor, two tens with and without me, lacking a head and a tail.
2. He created thepresent moment ahead of cruelty.
3. They were many, but only three did something.
4. Epessë of the ocean of headgear.
5. Hidden elf ends in fish's top valley.

By the way, what's #6? I'm stumped there...

[Turambar]

#6 was West Gate (of Moria), which opened to the word mellon = "friend".

E: isn't it Will Truman?

[ October 14, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Turambar]

#3 Istari?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Sorry. Will Truman. My mistake..*proceeds to scold self* "You should have gone with the Karen Walker quote, you imbecile!"

By the way, Istari?...Not quite. The whole group. Two words.

[Finwe]

#3: The Wizards or The Maiar?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

No...both are Elvish. Quenya, in fact.

[Turambar]

Heren Istarion ?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

You're right, Turambar!

Updating...
1. A land in Gondor, two tens with and without me, lacking a head and a tail.
2. He created the present moment ahead of cruelty.
3. Heren Istarion-They were many, but only three did something.
4. Epessë of the ocean of headgear.
5. Hidden elf ends in fish's top valley.

[Finwe]

2) Morgoth?
5) Voronwë?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

2) Morgoth?


No...but he's Ainur...the phrase after "He created the..." is cryptic.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

5) Voronwë?


No, but you're on the right track. "Hidden Elf" means he's of Gondolin...the rest are cryptic

[Finwe]

5) Earendil?

[Turambar]

I know you've given some hints already, Nilpaurion, but I'm just not getting them.

smilies/frown.gif

[Arestevana]

2)Aulё

[Turambar]

The "now-grim" - of course ! Good one, Arestevana.

[Arestevana]

Why thank you, Turambar.

Nilpaurion-
Is it to early for me to guess?
Assuming Aule is the answer to number two, is the password be Turin or Mahal?

[Turambar]

What does he mean by two tens in #1? Can't be XX? Twenty? Score?

Or for that matter, "with or without me"? A U2 reference? :P

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

2)Aulё


You're on the right track...but no. What his creation calls him.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

What does he mean by two tens in #1?


Or for that matter, "with or without me"?

Mathematics... smilies/tongue.gif

[Turambar]

Mahal ?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Right again, Turambar!

Updating...
1. A land in Gondor, two tens with and without me, lacking a head and a tail.
2. Mahal-He created the present moment ahead of cruelty.
3. Heren Istarion-They were many, but only three did something.
4. Epessë of the ocean of headgear.
5. Hidden elf ends in fish's top valley.

By the way, for the password, here's a clue: reverse Saucy... smilies/wink.gif

[Telchar]

5) Ecthelion of the fountain... maybe?

[Finwe]

4)Gil-galad maybe?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

5) Ecthelion of the fountain... maybe?


No...but here's food for thought...

ends in fish's top valley.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

4)Gil-galad maybe?


No...it's a place.

Wait. Replace ocean with trench.

[Telchar]

#"#@@%€##"#** these are hard smilies/biggrin.gif

I hope you apreciate that I make a fool of myself Turambar smilies/tongue.gif

Here is another shot in the dark: 1) Calenardhon I dont get the '2 tens (20???)' reference, but lacking a head and a tail could be something about being sparsely populated before Cirion gave it to Eorl whereafter there came both men and horses (tails)... gosh it sounds lame...
smilies/eek.gif

[ October 24, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Turambar]

Telchar - Normally, In Cryptic-ese, "lacking a head and tail" means you take off the first and last letters of the word referred to.

#4 Amon Uilos ?
#5 Maeglin ?

[ October 24, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

1) Calenardhon


No, Telchar. Thinks something that sounds like two numbers put together...oh, no! I said too much! smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

#4 Amon Uilos ?


No...think headgear... smilies/wink.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

#5 Maeglin ?


No...

Keep guessing...there aren't that many Gondolindrim... smilies/wink.gif

[NightKnight]

5) Glorfindel, as dell would be valley. First one from Gondolin I could think of.

[ October 25, 2003: Message edited by: NightKnight ]

[Turambar]

Ah! And fin is a fish's top, I deem. I think you've got it, Night Knight. Good one!


No...think headgear

Uhh - helm/helmet hat cap Fedora ?

[ October 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[NightKnight]

A wild guess would be Anórien at 1), as we need a vowel there. smilies/tongue.gif

[Telchar]

4) Ulmo ?

for the arising of the King of the Sea was terrible, as a mounting wave that strides to the land, with dark helm foam-crested and raiment of mail shimmering from silver down into shadows of green.

[Voralphion]

4) Nevrast? where Ulmo appeared to Tuor, and where Tuor got his helmet (headgear)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Sorry for the disappearance. Anywhen...

NightKnight is right!

Updating...
1. A land in Gondor, two tens with and without me, lacking a head and a tail.
2. Mahal-He created the present moment ahead of cruelty.
3. Heren Istarion-They were many, but only three did something.
4. Epessë of the ocean of headgear.
5. Glorfindel-Hidden elf ends in fish's top valley.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

A wild guess would be Anórien at 1)

Uh...no! It doesn't begin in a vowel, and Anórien is not mathematical in any sense. Choose another Gondorian fief.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

4) Nevrast?


No, sorry.

By the way, I repeat the clue for the password: Reverse Saucy.

[NightKnight]

Not a vowel, eh? Then the only letter that could work would be S, and the only place I can find is South Ithilien.

By the way, what does Epesse mean?

[Turambar]

Belfalas? Lamedon? Dol Amroth? Lebennin? smilies/eek.gif

Epessë means "later name".

[ October 27, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[NightKnight]

Ocean of headgear could be Helm's Deep. As for later name, Aglarond?

Also, are both H and I in 3) parts of the password?

[Turambar]

Night Knight - another good solution!

Not sure on "Heren Istarion", but for the meaning of "Reverse Saucy", see p. 3 of this thread. (The answer to Sauceman's puzzle was the first letter of clue #1, the second letter of clue #2, etc.)

[NightKnight]

Then it's probably 1st letter in the 5th clue, 2nd in the 4th, etc. *Sigh*

My next guess is Lamedon for 1), since it has "me" in it.

[ October 28, 2003: Message edited by: NightKnight ]

[Finwe]

4) Himring?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Lebennin?

You're correct!

Updating...
1. Lebennin-A land in Gondor, two tens with and without me, lacking a head and a tail.
2. Mahal-He created the present moment ahead of cruelty.
3. Heren Istarion-They were many, but only three did something.
4. Epessë of the ocean of headgear.
5. Glorfindel-Hidden elf ends in fish's top valley.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Ocean of headgear could be Helm's Deep. As for later name, Aglarond?


No...but Helm's Deep is right. Choose another name for it.

[NightKnight]

I believe the password is Narog.

[ October 29, 2003: Message edited by: NightKnight ]

[Turambar]

The Glittering Caves ?

Nilpaurion - can you explain #1 ?

[ October 29, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Nilpaurion - can you explain #1 ?

Yes. I'd be grateful if you could explain it too.

#4. Hornburg?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Nilpaurion - can you explain #1 ?


Yes. I'd be grateful if you could explain it too.


Gladly.

Two tens, the first with me(or I, which represents the number one)= 10+1 =11(eleven)

The second ten without me = 10-1 =9(nine)

Elevennine lacking a head and a tail=Levennin, or Lebennin


Tadah! (OK, that wasn't good, wasn't it?) smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

#4. Hornburg?


Yes, but NightKnight already got the password. Your go.

[Turambar]

*bump*

Night Knight is up.

[NightKnight]

1) Other confused moon between defeat and a half goblin with flowers.
2) No wooden bow edge.
3) High starts with back, before the right one river.
4) River stopped by white speaks at last note.
5) Muddled steel youngling.
6) Pointy Greek ship before cut king's chair followed by a note.

It's my first, and I hope it's a good one. A clue for the entire password would be gold.

[ October 31, 2003: Message edited by: NightKnight ]

[Turambar]

I know ! Just wanted to make sure you hadn't forgotten. smilies/smile.gif

[ October 31, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Arestevana]

5) Estel?

[NightKnight]

That's right. smilies/smile.gif

1) Other confused moon between defeat and a half goblin with flowers.
2) No wooden bow edge.
3) High starts with back, before the right one river.
4) River stopped by white speaks at last note.
5) Estel (Muddled steel youngling.)
6) Pointy Greek ship before cut king's chair followed by a note.(Muddled steel youngling.)

[Turambar]

#5 Nargothrond ?

Could #3 be Ringló ?

[ November 01, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[NightKnight]

Nargothrond is right, Ringlo isn't.

1) Other confused moon between defeat and a half goblin with flowers.
2) No wooden bow edge.
3) High starts with back, before the right one river.
4) River stopped by white speaks at last note.
5) Estel (Muddled steel youngling.)
6) Nargothrond Pointy Greek ship before cut king's chair followed by a note.

[Finwe]

Is the password Lorien by any chance? smilies/biggrin.gif

[NightKnight]

Argh! You're too fast! Well, it is Lorien. Well done on getting it. smilies/smile.gif Now guess the others. smilies/tongue.gif

[ November 02, 2003: Message edited by: NightKnight ]

[Turambar]

#4 Isen ?

[Finwe]

1) Lossarnach?
3) Anduin?

[ November 02, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

[NightKnight]

Lossarnach is right, Isen and Anduin aren't.

1) Lossarnach (Other confused moon between defeat and a half goblin with flowers.)
2) No wooden bow edge.
3) High starts with back, before the right one river.
4) River stopped by white speaks at last note.
5) Estel (Muddled steel youngling.)
6) Nargothrond (Pointy Greek ship before cut king's chair followed by a note.)

[Telchar]

3# Rathlóriel ?

[Finwe]

4) either Isenmouthe or Ivrin?

[NightKnight]

1) Lossarnach (Other confused moon between defeat and a half goblin with flowers.)
2) No wooden bow edge.
3) High starts with back, before the right one river.
4) Isenmouthe (River stopped by white speaks at last note.)
5) Estel (Muddled steel youngling.)
6) Nargothrond (Pointy Greek ship before cut king's chair followed by a note.)

[Turambar]

Can you explain 1 and 3?

[NightKnight]

Sure.

Other confused moon

Take another word for moon, Rana, and mix it up to get arna.

between defeat and a half goblin with flowers

Another word for defeat is loss.
Half goblin = orch without or
With flowers was the straight clue, as Lossarnach is a flowery region.
Then stick in arna between loss and ch. Lossarnach! smilies/biggrin.gif

As for number 3, High is the straight clue. Think of a prefix meaning back, and I think you'll find it. smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

I meant 4, not 3, but thanks for the hint on 3.

Rerir ?

[NightKnight]

Oh, well, here it is:

River stopped by white speaks at last note

River stopped by white = Isen was stopped by Saruman
Speaks = mouth
And then an E.

[NightKnight]

1) Lossarnach (Other confused moon between defeat and a half goblin with flowers.)
2) No wooden bow edge.
3) Rerir (High starts with back, before the right one river.)
4) Isenmouthe (River stopped by white speaks at last note.)
5) Estel (Muddled steel youngling.)
6) Nargothrond (Pointy Greek ship before cut king's chair followed by a note.)

[Turambar]

#2 Oakenshield? I'm not getting that one . . .

[NightKnight]

Nope. It's mostly synonyms in that one.

[Finwe]

2) Onodrim?

[NightKnight]

Yeah, Onodrim it is. Next password, please. smilies/tongue.gif

[Finwe]

Excellent!


1. One who loves a large body of water (Earendil)

2. A land much fought over(Arnor)

3. Tall, stone, watchdog (Minas Tirith)
4. Heroic little river-rider (Bilbo)

5. Another growl, Spanish see, half of heroic archer (Arvedui)

6. One of Barahir's companions in Dorthonion who is a cloth scrap and a fire. (Ragnor)


[ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

1. Camlost?

4. Nibs?

5. Curufin?

[Finwe]

Here's a hint:

1.) (person)

2.) (place)

3.) (place)

4.) (person)

5.) (person)

6.) (person)

Many of them are in the Silmarillion.

[Turambar]

Apparently we need more hintses.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Yes, yes...more hintses...*gollum, gollum*

By the way...how many avatars have you had, Turambar...just a question...that one's new...

[ November 24, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Finwe]

Look in the Silmarillion, especially in the index where it gives you the meaning of the names and the characteristics of the main characters. A couple of them are quite easy actually.

I'll give you a hint for number 1: He was a very famous wanderer.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

5. Arvedui?

I'll be stabbing blind here, for my Silmarillion has been snatched by a fool...a friend, actually...

[Finwe]

Right on!!!! I'm so glad someone finally got one!!!!

[NightKnight]

For some odd reason I think number 1 is Beren. No idea why, though.

[The Saucepan Man]

I think that it would be helpful all round if the person giving the answer or (if they cannot) the question-setter could explain the answers when they are not obvious.

[Finwe]

Ok. I'll change the questions around a little bit, to make them a little easier.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

First, I thought it was Curufin, and heroic archer referred to was Derufin. But I was mistaken, so I went for Duilin. The first person that came to my mind that has either half of Duilin is Arvedui. So, I stabbed wildly and I posted my answer.

1. Tuor?

3. Argonath?

4. Bilbo?

[The Laurenendorian]

1) Eärendil?

And it appears the Master of Doom has beaten me to the answer to 6).

[ November 24, 2003: Message edited by: The Laurenendorian ]

[Turambar]

#3 Silent Watchers?

#6 Ragnor ?

[ November 24, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Celebrian]

#4 - Fili, the apple barrel floater?

[Finwe]

Nilpaurion Felagund got # 4.

Turambar got # 6.


Laure got # 1.

[Turambar]

#2 Dagorlad ?
#3 Minas Tirith ?

[The Saucepan Man]

#2 Arnor or Angmar?
#3 Mount Fang (Orthanc)?

Is the Password Eämbar?

[Finwe]

Turambar got #3 and Saucy got #2 and the password! Good show, chaps! Saucy can continue.

[The Saucepan Man]

Thanks, Finwe. smilies/smile.gif

1. Hole in bottom of sack.
2. Superior troops may avoid being petrified in battle.
3. Magician found in Combe or near Archet.
4. Doomed ocean fortress.
5. Evil one gives love-bite, by the sound of it.
6. Horse lord said to have come to an end at this place.
7. King reverses commercial edict.
8. A Hobbit who can take his drink?
9. Headless swordsman and main attraction from Eastern land.

Tricksy. smilies/evil.gif

[The Laurenendorian]

1) Bag End?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

4. Brithombar or Eglarest?

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes and no. smilies/wink.gif

1. Bag End (Hole in bottom of sack.)
2. Superior troops may avoid being petrified in battle.
3. Magician found in Combe or near Archet.
4. Doomed ocean fortress.
5. Evil one gives love-bite, by the sound of it.
6. Horse lord said to have come to an end at this place.
7. King reverses commercial edict.
8. A Hobbit who can take his drink?
9. Headless swordsman and main attraction from Eastern land.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

2. Helm's Deep, Hornburg, Aglarond?
6. Pelennor?

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope. smilies/evil.gif

[Finwe]

3) Tom Bombadil?

4) Sirion?

[Turambar]

#6 Hornburg? Or the Wold?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

The best I seem to be able to manage at the moment is

2: Olog Hai
3: Beorn
8: Brandybuck
9: Orrostar

[The Saucepan Man]

None of the above. smilies/tongue.gif smilies/wink.gif

[Turambar]

Did you see that ? He's taunting us !!

Turambar --> http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/jeflaming1.gif http://www.minastirith.com/ubb/icons/icon26.gif <-- Saucepan

#6 Firien Wood?

[ 3:16 PM December 01, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Ahem! It seems that I cross-posted with Squatter, so my taunting was not entirely fair. smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

1. Bag End (Hole in bottom of sack.)
2. Olog-Hai (Superior troops may avoid being petrified in battle.)
3. Beorn (Magician found in Combe or near Archet.)
4. Doomed ocean fortress.
5. Evil one gives love-bite, by the sound of it.
6. Horse lord said to have come to an end at this place.
7. King reverses commercial edict.
8. A Hobbit who can take his drink?
9. Orrostar (Headless swordsman and main attraction from Eastern land.)

Three out of four, Squatter. And Brandybuck is very close for #8.

Still here, and relatively unflamed, Turambar. smilies/wink.gif But I am afraid that Firien Wood is not correct. smilies/tongue.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Celebrian]

6 - Wold? Eorl's Easterling end...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Celebrian, welcome to the 'Downs! Enjoy decay! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

8. Oldbucks?

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Is password acquired in the normal fashion?

[Turambar]

# 7 Walda ?

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, not correct I'm afraid, Celebrian and Nilpaurion. Turambar, however, has come up trumps this time:

1. Bag End (Hole in bottom of sack.)
2. Olog-Hai (Superior troops may avoid being petrified in battle.)
3. Beorn (Magician found in Combe or near Archet.)
4. Doomed ocean fortress.
5. Evil one gives love-bite, by the sound of it.
6. Horse lord said to have come to an end at this place.
7. Walda (King reverses commercial edict.)
8. A Hobbit who can take his drink?
9. Orrostar (Headless swordsman and main attraction from Eastern land.)

Is password acquired in the normal fashion?

You'll have to wait and see. smilies/evil.gif smilies/wink.gif

[ 11:20 AM December 02, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Turambar]

#6 Paths of the Dead ?

[Celebrian]

#5 - Niggle?

Aiya, Nilpaurion Felegund! I bend a courtesy/curtsy to thee.

[Usta Salque]

is #8 a Took?